Getting a dog

[Tenbatsuzen]

Liz and I have been debating getting a dog for some time now. I'm interested in a beagle or a boston terrier, but she doesn't like the beagle because she's afraid it'll make a lot of noise.

We are looking for a small-to-midsize dog, with short hair and no drooling.

Any suggestions?

[~Katja~]

I saw a puggle the other day, it was adorable.
http://doggiewoggie.com/wp-images/puggle.jpg

[Puggle_kicker]

Rumor is I kick puggles.

I would not go beagles man, those things are loud. I personally like a Pekingese as far as small dogs go.

[MC Pee Pants]

I have a beagle, he is indeed loud if you let him be. You can train him otherwise, with a shoe to the nose whenever he gets too loud. Honestly though there is no better dog than a beagle. They have great personalities and love the shit out of you no matter what, you actually learn top enjoy a good beagle howl when you come home. Im gay, i love my dog a little too much.

[Foster]

I had a beagle for 13 years, he could be loud, but he was a great dog.

[Chip196]

No Terriers ... our Cairn is very well behaved, but when she's playing, or hears something outside, her bark is piercing.

Our English Springer is very quiet and super smart, but they may be too big for you. She'll be 35-40 pounds. If you are interested in an English Springer, let me know.

Good luck.

This is Abbey at 7 Weeks:
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1960/180/96/594985029/n594985029_2396293_8514.jpg

[Liverspot]

Beagles can be very energetic and they need a lot of room to run. Boston Terriers are more of an "inside" dog.

[GreatAmericanZero]

i just got a dog!!!!

http://www.dogster.com/dogs/936117

shes 30lbs, super quiet and has never drooled but shes MINE so that doesnt help you

just go to petfinder.com and type in your area code and for size put "Small" and you'll find something

[Thebazile78]

Rumor is I kick puggles.

I would not go beagles man, those things are loud. I personally like a Pekingese as far as small dogs go.

The hair's too long on a Pekingese and will aggravate my allergies worse than the carpet already does. But I do appreciate the input.

We both work, so a short-haired dog is better than a long-haired dog any day of the week as far as basic care is concerned ... I am really unwilling to spend extra money on a groomer for a long-haired dog.

[Jughead]

Little girl Min Pin.........As long as you are sure..... They are never good with second owner....Because they fall in love with you fast....:wub:..You can name her Stewart:wub:

[Thebazile78]

i just got a dog!!!!

http://www.dogster.com/dogs/936117

shes 30lbs, super quiet and has never drooled but shes MINE so that doesnt help you

just go to petfinder.com and type in your area code and for size put "Small" and you'll find something

What a pretty dog! I admire Border Collies; they are amazing dogs. If you're also a fan of the Border Collie, may I recommend the Bedlam Farm books by Jon Katz? He's been writing about his Border Collies for a number of years now ... in addition to the other dogs (and now farm animals) he's "shepherded" over the years.

[AngelAmy]

pug (they shed but their hair is short)

toy poodle (for the allergy thing)

dachshund

labs can be medium sized..i dont know how big you want to go but they are great dogs

I don't know what qualities youre looking for in a dog but those are a few options you can look into.

[GreatAmericanZero]

heres a puggle in stamford ct

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=12540287

heres a baby australian shepherd mix!

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=10250341

heres an american eskimo like pronto!

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=12707592

a collie-husky mix? thats going to grow up to be cool looking!

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=12735664

and heres a list from the North East Boston Terrier Rescue

http://search.petfinder.com/shelterSearch/shelterSearch.cgi?animal=&breed=&age=&size=&specialNeeds=&declawedPets=&children=&status=&id=&internal=&contact=&name=&shelterid=NY644&sort=&preview=1

[Tall_James]

Get a dog who will bring you something that you need like slippers. Or in your case Matty, something that you really want.


































































































http://www.peoplecorporation.org/post_images/3100_dog-dildo.jpg

[Don Stugots]

GAZ you just made me want 5 more dogs!

[GreatAmericanZero]

my parents were looking specifically for a cocker spaniel/king charles cavalier spaniel mix (a cockalier) and they found one on this site :

http://newyork.kijiji.com/f-Pets-Dogs-puppies-W0QQCatIdZ100126

its a good site for puppy classifieds. It didnt help me cuz i wanted an older dog, but if u want a puppy you should check out what they have

[Tall_James]

a cocker spaniel

Hello? Didn't I just post a picture of one?

[~Katja~]

Hello? Didn't I just post a picture of one?

he was more of a cock-er-retriever

[Tall_James]

he was more of a cock-er-retriever

Nice one. :laugh:

[Thebazile78]

pug (they shed but their hair is short)

toy poodle (for the allergy thing)

dachshund

labs can be medium sized..i dont know how big you want to go but they are great dogs

I don't know what qualities youre looking for in a dog but those are a few options you can look into.

Thanks for the tips Amy, but I really HATE poodles. My uncle had a toy poodle named Ralph who was one of the single most high-strung and yappy dogs on the planet, so I've already got a prejudice against the things.

We're considering small-to-medium dogs, but not "toy" or "mini" breeds, mostly because they make me anxious but also because I've met/heard about too many of them that have temperament problems - i.e., high-strung, anxious, aggressive, etc.

I'm neurotic enough without adding a neurotic dog into the mix!

We're basically looking for a short-haired dog that would do well crated for most of the day, seeing as how we both work full-time and we cannot leave a dog tied up in our (small) backyard. It would have to be a breed (or mix) good with families and small children, as there are a LOT of kids under 6 on our street (and, of course, we're discussing starting a family of our own) and we don't want to face any possible lawsuits or fearmongering (i.e. - no Rotties or Pitt Bulls) ... or, even worse, any bitten nieces or nephew!

We don't mind playful, and would be going through "obedience school" so that we can learn better techniques than the "boot to the snout" (that some folks have joked about in this thread already) to control undesirable behavior and also to ensure a lot of things, including easier leash-training (a good thing in the mornings!!!) and patience with small kids, who may be excited to see a dog but not necessarily know how to be gentle with one.

I would LOVE to have a lab or other retriever, but the daytime-at-work situation seems a poor match for the daytime at-work situation that Matt and I face.

[Tall_James]

Dogs are a lot of work. Have a kid instead.

[Thebazile78]

heres a puggle in stamford ct

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=12540287

heres a baby australian shepherd mix!

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=10250341

heres an american eskimo like pronto!

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=12707592

a collie-husky mix? thats going to grow up to be cool looking!

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=12735664

and heres a list from the North East Boston Terrier Rescue

http://search.petfinder.com/shelterSearch/shelterSearch.cgi?animal=&breed=&age=&size=&specialNeeds=&declawedPets=&children=&status=&id=&internal=&contact=&name=&shelterid=NY644&sort=&preview=1

Thanks for the sites and tips.

Unfortunately, I don't think we're the right home for a rescued dog at this point in our lives. We work full-time and the animal will likely be crated for up to 10 hours a day, longer if I hit traffic on the way home or have a project that keeps me at work longer than my 8-hour shift ... a lot of rescues won't accept a situation like that because of the way the animal may have been treated by its former family.

I don't mind the effort it takes to crate-train (etc.) a puppy. I'm more cautious about taking in a dog that's had bad things happen to it because it wasn't treated well before it got to me - my brother Ger's dog, Lucky (or ChimCham or Squeaker, depending on which of our siblings you ask to identify the poor dog) was a rescue. She's an adorable dog, but she has a few residual issues from her former owners ... and getting her was described by multiple family members like applying for security clearance with the CIA.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Thanks for the sites and tips.

Unfortunately, I don't think we're the right home for a rescued dog at this point in our lives. We work full-time and the animal will likely be crated for up to 10 hours a day, longer if I hit traffic on the way home or have a project that keeps me at work longer than my 8-hour shift ... a lot of rescues won't accept a situation like that because of the way the animal may have been treated by its former family.

I don't mind the effort it takes to crate-train (etc.) a puppy. I'm more cautious about taking in a dog that's had bad things happen to it because it wasn't treated well before it got to me - my brother Ger's dog, Lucky (or ChimCham or Squeaker, depending on which of our siblings you ask to identify the poor dog) was a rescue. She's an adorable dog, but she has a few residual issues from her former owners ... and getting her was described by multiple family members like applying for security clearance with the CIA.

my dog is 2 1/2 and shes perfect. i dont even need to use her crate anymore when i leave, shes such a good girl that she can just hang out in my bedroom and i know shes not going to chew up my shit. A rescue dog a little older is probably exactly what you need

[Thebazile78]

Dogs are a lot of work. Have a kid instead.

At least a kid will outgrow the messing-itself-so-you-have-to-clean-it-up phase relatively quickly.







(Actually, I want a cat, but his dad's allergic to cats. Party pooper!)

[~Katja~]

At least a kid will outgrow the messing-itself-so-you-have-to-clean-it-up phase relatively quickly.







(Actually, I want a cat, but his dad's allergic to cats. Party pooper!)

so you are having a boy, congrats!

I am actually allergic to cats and have one. I did start some sensibilisation but never finished it after my son was born.
But you tend to get almost immune to your own cat.

[Tenbatsuzen]

so you are having a boy, congrats!



She was talking about my father, not me.

[~Katja~]

She was talking about my father, not me.

DAMN ;) I thought I caught you...lol

[Thebazile78]

my dog is 2 1/2 and shes perfect. i dont even need to use her crate anymore when i leave, shes such a good girl that she can just hang out in my bedroom and i know shes not going to chew up my shit. A rescue dog a little older is probably exactly what you need

I don't know. I've said on multiple occasions whenever the dog question is brought up that I don't want the dog in the bedroom areas AT ALL because of my allergies (and the carpeting) so the only option for us while we are at work is a crate on the first floor of our house.

An older dog does have its advantages ... like being paper trained ... but I am cautious about a rescued dog.

I do appreciate the input, though.

[furie]

boston terrier's suck. all they do is yap-yap

[Thebazile78]

so you are having a boy, congrats!

I am actually allergic to cats and have one. I did start some sensibilisation but never finished it after my son was born.
But you tend to get almost immune to your own cat.

I love those spoiler tags!!! (No, we are not expecting and if we were, we wouldn't find out the gender beforehand. The pronouns in my "spoiler" were misplaced; I didn't realize it until you picked up on it.)

I developed a mild sensitivity to cats after I moved out for college and wasn't living with my cat, Shadow, full-time anymore. (Shadow has been dead for 5 years. He was a great cat. Just ask Sheepy, who took care of him for me while I was away.)

My apartments were all pet-free zones, and too small to keep a litter box in anyway, so I haven't lived full-time with a cat in almost 8 years. Which hurts because I love cats.

Unfortunately, like we said, Matt's dad is allergic to cats. Since I actually like my in-laws, getting a cat is out of the question. Damn shame, too, because a cat would be PERFECT in our situation ... no worries about crating, just a discussion about who changes the litterbox when we finally DO decide to get pregnant as an extra precaution against toxoplasmosis (inside cat or not; you never know what kind of shit the thing was eating before you got it!!!)

[KatPw]

so you are having a boy, congrats!

I am actually allergic to cats and have one. I did start some sensibilisation but never finished it after my son was born.
But you tend to get almost immune to your own cat.

I'm supposedly highly allergic to both cats and dogs. I've had cats my whole life, and we also had a dog when I was little. As long as I don't pet them and then touch my face I'm fine (I'm a big hand-washer). You definitely build up a tolerance, it's like getting allergy shots without the needle and Dr. fees.

How about a Welch Corgi? They are very smart.
ETA: I believe the cat breeds Devon Rex/Cornish Rex are good for people with allergies, they have a curly coat and they don't really shed.

[~Katja~]

I love those spoiler tags!!! (No, we are not expecting and if we were, we wouldn't find out the gender beforehand. The pronouns in my "spoiler" were misplaced; I didn't realize it until you picked up on it.)

I developed a mild sensitivity to cats after I moved out for college and wasn't living with my cat, Shadow, full-time anymore. (Shadow has been dead for 5 years. He was a great cat. Just ask Sheepy, who took care of him for me while I was away.)

My apartments were all pet-free zones, and too small to keep a litter box in anyway, so I haven't lived full-time with a cat in almost 8 years. Which hurts because I love cats.

Unfortunately, like we said, Matt's dad is allergic to cats. Since I actually like my in-laws, getting a cat is out of the question. Damn shame, too, because a cat would be PERFECT in our situation ... no worries about crating, just a discussion about who changes the litterbox when we finally DO decide to get pregnant as an extra precaution against toxoplasmosis (inside cat or not; you never know what kind of shit the thing was eating before you got it!!!)


that was the greatest part about my pregnancy, "guilting" someone into kitty litter duty

[Tenbatsuzen]

that was the greatest part about my pregnancy, "guilting" someone into kitty litter duty

So cat shit ranks above sex?

[~Katja~]

So cat shit ranks above sex?

when was the last time you cleaned a litterbox ?

[jauble]

Its probably too large for what you are looking for but boxers are great, short hair, very loving and protective of kids (which does not apply in this case).

[GreatAmericanZero]

Its probably too large for what you are looking for but boxers are great, short hair, very loving and protective of kids (which does not apply in this case).

from what i've seen at the dog park, Boxers have a great demeanor...the ones i see just seem really cool and sweet and fun

[Tenbatsuzen]

when was the last time you cleaned a litterbox ?

I don't have a cat. Never have.

[GreatAmericanZero]

http://files.dogster.com/pix/dogs/17/936117/936117_1231122679.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

Its probably too large for what you are looking for but boxers are great, short hair, very loving and protective of kids (which does not apply in this case).

yeah... Too big. I'm looking for a 30 lbs max.

[MC Pee Pants]

Cats can suck it, most cats ive encountered were terrible animals. Especially my girlfriends, it sneaks around and jumps up on my legs claws out for no reason. Just get a beagle... you cant go wrong.

[spoon]

Look no further then my avatar. They don't shed, and are awesome/smart dogs!

[tanless1]

youd be suprised how good a house dog the labrador is. mine is just shy of 15(gettn close) he's happy to fly in small planes, ride the ski lift. or just a short hop to the store(talk about a car riden dog. 600mi. is just a start for this guy.) an all around participater. quiet and doesnt take up much space. does like to rest on your feet. and thinks taking a nap is a genius idea.
man im going to miss this dog.

[angrymissy]

heres a puggle in stamford ct

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=12540287

heres a baby australian shepherd mix!

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=10250341

heres an american eskimo like pronto!

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=12707592

a collie-husky mix? thats going to grow up to be cool looking!

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=12735664

and heres a list from the North East Boston Terrier Rescue

http://search.petfinder.com/shelterSearch/shelterSearch.cgi?animal=&breed=&age=&size=&specialNeeds=&declawedPets=&children=&status=&id=&internal=&contact=&name=&shelterid=NY644&sort=&preview=1

Oh man, I want that Jack Frost eskimo

[Don Stugots]

Look no further then my avatar. They don't shed, and are awesome/smart dogs!

are they good with kids?

[Don Stugots]

http://files.dogster.com/pix/dogs/17/936117/936117_1231122679.jpg

great looking pooch.

[mikeyboy]

are they good with kids?

You're pregnant?

[Don Stugots]

You're pregnant?

not for me.

maybe

















not

[NewYorkDragons80]

Westies are great dogs.

http://i.pbase.com/u45/spepple/small/29166124.zoey_running2.jpg

My parents have had one for 8 years now. They're about 12-15 lbs, don't shed very much, fairly docile, friendly, and bark when someone comes to the door, but not incessantly. I highly recommend this dog based on what you've said.

[NewYorkDragons80]

youd be suprised how good a house dog the labrador is.
Same goes for Great Danes. Surprising as it may seem, they're actually far better apartment dogs than a Jack Russell. They don't bark, don't need very much exercise, and sleep most of the day.

[spoon]

are they good with kids?

surely

[angrymissy]

spoon's dogs rule

[Thebazile78]

when was the last time you cleaned a litterbox ?

I was so crazy-finicky about cleaning my cat's litterbox you'd think I was germ phobic or something ... liners, Lysol concentrate, hot water, disposable gloves, Lysol spray and double-bagging the changed liner.

I think Matt would need a Hazmat suit.

Its probably too large for what you are looking for but boxers are great, short hair, very loving and protective of kids (which does not apply in this case).

I love boxers. They've got to be one of my favorite breeds of all time.

Unfortunately, it'd be too big for our place, which is a damn shame. Everyone I know who's had boxers loves them.

Westies are great dogs.

http://i.pbase.com/u45/spepple/small/29166124.zoey_running2.jpg

My parents have had one for 8 years now. They're about 12-15 lbs, don't shed very much, fairly docile, friendly, and bark when someone comes to the door, but not incessantly. I highly recommend this dog based on what you've said.

I'm not crazy about Westies and they kind of give me the creeps because I dated a guy in college whose family had one, so there's an extra bit of bad juju for me on them.

[Thebazile78]

Look no further then my avatar. They don't shed, and are awesome/smart dogs!

Miniature schnauzer?

[MC Pee Pants]

Same goes for Great Danes. Surprising as it may seem, they're actually far better apartment dogs than a Jack Russell. They don't bark, don't need very much exercise, and sleep most of the day.

Id love to have a Great Dane but i heard they dont live that long because they have huge hearts. Id like a big dog to punch and not worry about, but im worried about big dog shits. Beagle, do it.

[Ritalin]

You gotta get a shelter dog.

You just gotta.

[spoon]

spoon's dogs rule

Pronto is a cool little bastard too, just he wouldn't fit their allergy type needs.

Soooo much cooler than Jeff! :wink:

Who by the way was trying to pawn off my girlfriend at the Christmas party!

[spoon]

Miniature schnauzer?

Yep.

[spoon]

Via Gaz's site:

I present you, your new puppy!

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=12727865

[Thebazile78]

You gotta get a shelter dog.

You just gotta.

The dogs we had when I was a kid ran as follow:

Thurber - my parents acquired Thurber from some kids giving away puppies in front of the local grocery store shortly after they got married in 1976; she was some sort of mix, probably with husky or collie or sheltie in her profile. Dumb as a post, but a good dog all the same ... probably 35-40lbs or so. We're still not able to talk about her with my brother Gerald, among whose first phrases was "Thurber shup" ... he loved that mutt with his whole heart.

Mac - we got Mac from the Bergen County Animal Shelter shortly after Thurber died. We'd discussed changing his name, but since Dad had to go to a MAC machine to get the cash to adopt him, the name stuck. Mac passed shortly after Shadow did back in 2003. He was a dopey dog, high strung, with a head that was too big for his body. He was some sort of terrier ... they told us at the pound that he was a Wheaten Terrier or a wheaten-colored Scottie. Probably dumber than Thurber was and he stank, too. (I never forgave Mac for not being Thurber.)

Lucky - a.k.a. Chim Cham a.k.a. Squeaker a.k.a. Ger's dog. Gerald adopted her from a rescue group or something ... she's an English pointer or something like that. Cute dog, very affectionate, but they never bothered to train her properly. Oh, and when Ger moved out, he couldn't take her with him. She'll probably be the last dog for a while.

Needless to say, I am not opposed to shelter dogs because of Mac, but shelters make me very sad.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You're pregnant?

Where do you think the puppet came from?

[Coach]

I have had a lot of dogs over the years..ranging from beagles to Newfies.
Best Dog I ever had was my Golden Retriever seconded only by my Current dog, A Berniese Mountain Dog. But they are probably too big, and a problem with Allergies.
Beagles get very loud..especially when they are left alone and improperly trained.
I would advise against a dachsund because they are yippy, and dumb.
You should never smack a dog on the nose..for lots of reasons. If you train the dog correctly, there will never be a need to.
If the dog is going to spend 10 hours a day in a crate..I would advise against getting a dog. If you have your heart set on getting one. Find out what your workplace regulations are on having them at the office. A growing number of workplaces are allowing dogs in the office for a number of reasons..Productivity and morale goes up to cite 2.

[Thebazile78]

I have had a lot of dogs over the years..ranging from beagles to Newfies.
Best Dog I ever had was my Golden Retriever seconded only by my Current dog, A Berniese Mountain Dog. But they are probably too big, and a problem with Allergies.
Beagles get very loud..especially when they are left alone and improperly trained.
I would advise against a dachsund because they are yippy, and dumb.
You should never smack a dog on the nose..for lots of reasons. If you train the dog correctly, there will never be a need to.
If the dog is going to spend 10 hours a day in a crate..I would advise against getting a dog. If you have your heart set on getting one. Find out what your workplace regulations are on having them at the office. A growing number of workplaces are allowing dogs in the office for a number of reasons..Productivity and morale goes up to cite 2.

I want a Golden, but am concerned about stuff like hip dysplasia that's apparently common in them because of over/in-breeding. They are wonderful dogs. (My dad's cousin Michael had the sweetest Golden, Kelly, when I was a kid ... she was truly one of the best dogs ever.)

My dad had a dachschund when he was a kid. He said it was mean. Personally, I think they look too much like ferrets ... and I fucking HATE ferrets. (Don't ask.)

As for the "workplace dog" idea ... if we worked for small businesses, maybe it would fly. HOWEVER, I work for a multinational corporation that, over the past two years, hasn't had the cohones to tell me that my official job title is no longer "Editor," has greatly reduced my responsibilities and, in the past year, has offshored 95% of my day-to-day tasks to pennies-a-day vendors in India and the Philippines. I really don't think bringing a dog to work would be anything but vetoed.

A key reason why we continue to discuss the dog rather than run out impulsively and GET a dog is the crating issue. When I was a kid, our dog Thurber came up from the basement before we went to school in the morning (roughly 8am) and we left her clipped to a lead until it got dark outside. Of course, now that could probably get you called in on some sort of Humane Society charges (because if her lead got tangled, Thurber would BARK constantly ... and she didn't have any kind of doghouse or anything, although we'd leave her with fresh water.)

[AngelAmy]

http://dogtime.com/matchup

you can try this website if you'd like.

they have information on all the breeds and this quiz will tell you which breed is best for what you are looking for by how you answer questions.

[Thebazile78]

http://dogtime.com/matchup

you can try this website if you'd like.

they have information on all the breeds and this quiz will tell you which breed is best for what you are looking for by how you answer questions.

Thanks Amy; I think that would be a big help. You're awesome.

[Coach]

I want a Golden, but am concerned about stuff like hip dysplasia that's apparently common in them because of over/in-breeding. They are wonderful dogs. (My dad's cousin Michael had the sweetest Golden, Kelly, when I was a kid ... she was truly one of the best dogs ever.)

A key reason why we continue to discuss the dog rather than run out impulsively and GET a dog is the crating issue. When I was a kid, our dog Thurber came up from the basement before we went to school in the morning (roughly 8am) and we left her clipped to a lead until it got dark outside. Of course, now that could probably get you called in on some sort of Humane Society charges (because if her lead got tangled, Thurber would BARK constantly ... and she didn't have any kind of doghouse or anything, although we'd leave her with fresh water.)
If you do your homework and find a good breeder..Hip Dysplacia is not an issue in Goldens. Key is no Mother to Son/Father to Daughter breeding.
Our Newfie pretty much encountered the same thing as Thurber. It was pretty sad. I ended up the only one who played with him or showed him love. Poor creature was wrong dog, wrong time.

[Ritalin]

The dogs we had when I was a kid ran as follow:

Thurber - my parents acquired Thurber from some kids giving away puppies in front of the local grocery store shortly after they got married in 1976; she was some sort of mix, probably with husky or collie or sheltie in her profile. Dumb as a post, but a good dog all the same ... probably 35-40lbs or so. We're still not able to talk about her with my brother Gerald, among whose first phrases was "Thurber shup" ... he loved that mutt with his whole heart.

Mac - we got Mac from the Bergen County Animal Shelter shortly after Thurber died. We'd discussed changing his name, but since Dad had to go to a MAC machine to get the cash to adopt him, the name stuck. Mac passed shortly after Shadow did back in 2003. He was a dopey dog, high strung, with a head that was too big for his body. He was some sort of terrier ... they told us at the pound that he was a Wheaten Terrier or a wheaten-colored Scottie. Probably dumber than Thurber was and he stank, too. (I never forgave Mac for not being Thurber.)

Lucky - a.k.a. Chim Cham a.k.a. Squeaker a.k.a. Ger's dog. Gerald adopted her from a rescue group or something ... she's an English pointer or something like that. Cute dog, very affectionate, but they never bothered to train her properly. Oh, and when Ger moved out, he couldn't take her with him. She'll probably be the last dog for a while.

Needless to say, I am not opposed to shelter dogs because of Mac, but shelters make me very sad.

Shelters ARE sad, I agree. It's the old "I want to take them all home" feeling.

[Gwen]

I didn't bother reading through the entire thread yet 'cause I don't have enough time, but as for Puggles the "gles" part is beagle. A friend of Lisa & I have one and it HOWLS and is really loud as per its beagle ancestry and he's actually fairly large (I would say in the neighborhood of 30-50 lbs), plus it has a lot of digestive problems.

I wouldn't recommend terriers if you don't want them barking, but I have two (a Yorkshire and a West Highland White) and they're the most loyal, amusing, friendly, wonderful pets I have ever owned and I've had many over the course of my life. High energy at times, couch potatoes at others. They've made my life exponentially better in so many ways. I never thought I was a dog person until I got them and now I don't see how I was ever a cat person. The cats at my mom's house are so disconnected, my pups actually are pumped to see me everyday. Makes ya feel all appreciated :wub:

We had to get "hypoallergenic" (though there really is no such thing) dogs 'cause we're both allergic to dogs with short fur and their dander and we have a very small place so we just weren't able to find something to fit our needs at a shelter. Dogster is a wealth of great information though about the breeds. I just say really do your research and I've found that girl dogs are infinitely easier and less creepy to take care of.

Why not something like an Italian Greyhound? They're small, short haired, cool as hell.

[Jujubees2]

that was the greatest part about my pregnancy, "guilting" someone into kitty litter duty


My wife did that to me. We got our cat in November of 1995 and found out she was pregnant in December of 1995. I don't think she's cleaned out the litter box more than 25 times since then (the only time she does it now is when I'm on the road).

[Freakshow]

Why not something like an Italian Greyhound? They're small, short haired, cool as hell.

How about just a regular greyhound? They are bigger than you say you want, but is it just the apartment thing that is the reason? Greyhounds curl up and you would never notice they were there...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2643818049_52ac9cc577.jpg

you wouldn't even have to buy a big bed. :wink:

[~Katja~]

How about just a regular greyhound? They are bigger than you say you want, but is it just the apartment thing that is the reason? Greyhounds curl up and you would never notice they were there...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2643818049_52ac9cc577.jpg

you wouldn't even have to buy a big bed. :wink:

don't greyhound organizations require you to have a fenced in yard and a certain size space for the dog?
I love greyhounds, they are such wonderful dogs.

[Freakshow]

don't greyhound organizations require you to have a fenced in yard and a certain size space for the dog?
I love greyhounds, they are such wonderful dogs.

Each group is different. I don't have a fenced yard and my group was fine with that (it means more walks for Zuni--she doesn't complain).

[Caseyelan]

I think everyone should own a Pomeranian.



http://a281.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/84/l_d3fcfdab3399c0bfbed7641605a2c8a8.jpg

[Ritalin]

I think everyone should own a Pomeranian.



http://a281.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/84/l_d3fcfdab3399c0bfbed7641605a2c8a8.jpg

They said they wanted a dog.

[NewYorkDragons80]

One thing is for sure; none of these dogs would be allowed in Fred's neighborhood :clap:

[spoon]

One thing is for sure; none of these dogs would be allowed in Fred's neighborhood :clap:

Why is Fred part asian and he'd eat them?

[Mullenax]

I think you need a Besenji. Not sure where you get one, but they are "The Barkless Dogs Of Africa". Short hair, cute curly tails, muscle-y, barkless, get up to about 25 lbs.<p>
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[midwestjeff]

I think you need a Besenji. Not sure where you get one, but they are "The Barkless Dogs Of Africa". Short hair, cute curly tails, muscle-y, barkless, get up to about 25 lbs.<p>
<img src= "http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t043/T043387A.jpg" height=150 width=160>

If those are the criterion (I didn't read the thread, sorry) then you need one of my avatar.

Boston Terrier/Pit Bull Terrier Mix.

Energetic, very intelligent, not psycho like a pit, but serious jaw strength.
A little on the energetic side, but I let my dog be himself and don't discourage insanity.
I am sure with the right "correction", the breed would be very tame.

Fuck it. You can't buy this dog off of a shelf.

One time deal. You can have Lenny for 3 million.
1 mil cash up front, I'll trust you to pay the rest in increments.

Congratulations on your new pup!!!!

[Freakshow]

Basenjis are 'barkless' but not silent. They made a sort of yodel sound.

[tanless1]

Same goes for Great Danes. Surprising as it may seem, they're actually far better apartment dogs than a Jack Russell.
got that right. scooby snack anyone ?

[RAAMONE]

just got another yorkie...cause i kinda felt bad for him, the first one i got for my girl is perfect...this guy is so retarded looking

wirey hary, one droopy ear, long nose, fat ass

oh and neither of them bark just kinda whine...and i know they are girly dogs but they are pretty cool

someday i'll get my boxer

[CuntagiousChris]

Beagles Rock if you train them well you dont have to worry about them making alot of noise i had 2 in a row and i would never own another breed as long as i live they're smart as hell and the sweetest things in the world

[tanless1]

shelters are a good idea ; but dont over look the vet clinic. sometimes the owner cant pay the extensive repair bill and will just have the dog put down. that doesnt always happen tho. somtimes the tech will fix the dog on his own and then look for a new home... keep your ears up.

[midwestjeff]

someday i'll get my boxer

Hey look guys, Raamone's balls just fell out of his chick's purse!!

[RAAMONE]

Hey look guys, Raamone's balls just fell out of his chick's purse!!

and my balls sadly probably weigh more than my dogs

[midwestjeff]

my balls probably weigh more than my dogs

Only on RF.Net is this not quite worthy of a modquote due to worse shit having been said.

I love your dogs and your chick-ruled balls Raamone. I'd kiss them both.

[RAAMONE]

Only on RF.Net is this not quite worthy of a modquote due to worse shit having been said.

I love your balls Raamone. I'd kiss them both.

exactly

[GreatAmericanZero]

I think everyone should own a Pomeranian.



http://a281.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/84/l_d3fcfdab3399c0bfbed7641605a2c8a8.jpg

Strummer is so much cooler than most pomeranians though. A lot of Poms are yippy nippy dogs, but Strummer is laid back and cool. Perhaps you need a 3 paw-ed Pom, that seems to be the way to go!



also, today i had my dog on my paltalk cam during the show and Sheepy said she has "David Bowie Eyes"

[Tall_James]

David Bowie eyes? Hopefully from the coked-out "Thin White Duke" period of the late 1970's.

Then your dog could party at Studio 54.

[Thebazile78]

.... Dogster is a wealth of great information though about the breeds. I just say really do your research and I've found that girl dogs are infinitely easier and less creepy to take care of.

Why not something like an Italian Greyhound? They're small, short haired, cool as hell.

Yeah, my answers on Dogster basically said we're not ready for a dog right now.

How about just a regular greyhound? They are bigger than you say you want, but is it just the apartment thing that is the reason? Greyhounds curl up and you would never notice they were there...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2643818049_52ac9cc577.jpg

you wouldn't even have to buy a big bed. :wink:

I was totally in love with the two BEAUTIFUL greyhounds who were with some reps from my county's rescue group wrapping gifts at Borders around Thanksgiving.

I wanted to sign up for being a rescuer, but then I remembered that my house is too small for a dog like that.

They are gorgeous dogs. And, apparently, the owner of the two I petted and scratched at the bookstore said that they're lazy, affectionate and very friendly dogs. (They certainly were friendly ... one of them gave me a bunch of puppy kisses!)

I think everyone should own a Pomeranian.



http://a281.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/84/l_d3fcfdab3399c0bfbed7641605a2c8a8.jpg

If every Pom were as cool as Strummer, they would. Unfortunately, they aren't. Which stinks.

[Mullenax]

shelters are a good idea ; but dont over look the vet clinic. sometimes the owner cant pay the extensive repair bill and will just have the dog put down. that doesnt always happen tho. somtimes the tech will fix the dog on his own and then look for a new home... keep your ears up.

This is true, my bf's mom is constantly trying to place vaccinated, well-behaved dogs that the owner abandoned (like our english bulldog) or people will bring in pregnant strays and they'll deliver the litter for adoption (like our german shepherd mix). <p>
It wasn't free, but darn close, and the vet can verify their health and give allergy suggestions.

[grlNIN]

It was kinda overlooked i think but Katja mentioned Welch Corgias, as i was going to.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7821/teddywelshcorgi01jpgw45hb3.jpg


Or a Bichon Frise?

[~Katja~]

It was kinda overlooked i think but Katja mentioned Welch Corgias, as i was going to.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7821/teddywelshcorgi01jpgw45hb3.jpg


Or a Bichon Frise?

I didn't mention that one, maybe KatPW did?
I like them though.
The Bichon I would stay away from. They are very hyper and yappy for a few years. They are great for people with allergies though.

[grlNIN]

Oh, sorry.

Either way Corgis are the best and i believe they are a reasonable price as well.

[Thebazile78]

.....

How about a Welch Corgi? They are very smart.
ETA: I believe the cat breeds Devon Rex/Cornish Rex are good for people with allergies, they have a curly coat and they don't really shed.

It was kinda overlooked i think but Katja mentioned Welch Corgias, as i was going to.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7821/teddywelshcorgi01jpgw45hb3.jpg


Or a Bichon Frise?

I didn't mention that one, maybe KatPW did?
I like them though.
The Bichon I would stay away from. They are very hyper and yappy for a few years. They are great for people with allergies though.

No hyper dogs, please. Thanks for being honest about the bichons ... I have issues with curly-haired dogs, but adding the hyperness and yappiness, that's almost like having a mini poodle. (You know, I had to Google "bichon frise" to make sure I was envisioning the right dog. I wasn't.)

I'm cautious about a "smart" dog, though. Don't smart dogs need a lot of stimulation during the day so they don't get bored and end up hurting themselves?

[~Katja~]

No hyper dogs, please. Thanks for being honest about the bichons ... I have issues with curly-haired dogs, but adding the hyperness and yappiness, that's almost like having a mini poodle. (You know, I had to Google "bichon frise" to make sure I was envisioning the right dog. I wasn't.)

I'm cautious about a "smart" dog, though. Don't smart dogs need a lot of stimulation during the day so they don't get bored and end up hurting themselves?

my host family from when I was an aupair has one and that thing was crazy for years. he would move an entire table just to get where he wanted.

[Thebazile78]

my host family from when I was an aupair has one and that thing was crazy for years. he would move an entire table just to get where he wanted.

Doesn't anybody have dopey mutts like Thurber anymore???

[Tenbatsuzen]

my host family from when I was an aupair has one and that thing was crazy for years. he would move an entire table just to get where he wanted.

You ever work in New England? How's your driving skills?

[~Katja~]

You ever work in New England? How's your driving skills?

hehe, no, I was an aupair here in nj.
fancy, I know.

[grlNIN]

No hyper dogs, please. Thanks for being honest about the bichons ... I have issues with curly-haired dogs, but adding the hyperness and yappiness, that's almost like having a mini poodle. (You know, I had to Google "bichon frise" to make sure I was envisioning the right dog. I wasn't.)

I'm cautious about a "smart" dog, though. Don't smart dogs need a lot of stimulation during the day so they don't get bored and end up hurting themselves?

Damn, how can you resist that face and those stubby little legs?!

[Tenbatsuzen]

hehe, no, I was an aupair here in nj.
fancy, I know.

Inside joke. Search for "au pair" by TallJames.

[Thebazile78]

Damn, how can you resist that face and those stubby little legs?!

I do admit that the corgi is cute; the body kind of reminds me of Mac. Small and sturdy. Very cute. And I am a sucker for puppy pics. I don't know why, considering I am a die-hard "cat person."

It's just that, if it's a smart dog, you do have to make sure it doesn't get bored. Apparently, these li'l guys were originally bred as herding dogs, much like border collies, if my Google results can be trusted. (I love border collies, too, but I know for a fact that they're not the dog for us right now!)

You ever work in New England? How's your driving skills?

Wrong European import; I seem to recall that one having been Polish (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58252&highlight=au+pair).

[GreatAmericanZero]

my brother has a corgi, sheds like a motherfucker



yeah i have one of those smart herding dogs type (aussie/border collie) and what her previous owner told me was that when those type of dogs dont get enough exercise they become obsessive-compulsive. She knew she had to give her away when she was becomed so OCD with her chew toys

[Coach]

My cousin probably has the best dog for you..Unfortunately, I forgot it's name..It looks like a sand colored pile of fur..fur feels like wool and pretty innactive..The dog is a hoot..I thought it was a stuffed animal until it moved....
low to the ground..doesn't really bark.

Please don't get one of those "teapot" miniature dogs..nothing is worth a load of money and does nothing but shit in your shoes..plus, I had an unfortunate experience with one..suffice it to say it involved sex.... with a woman..rolling over and a dead dog.

[Warren Peace]

Look no further then my avatar. They don't shed, and are awesome/smart dogs!

Yep, they are also hypoallergenic. We have a 1-year old miniature schnauzer...weighs 18 lbs. and is a great dog.

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr274/JerseyIllini/MA0F9680.jpg

[ecobag2]

Pug.

I have two - they fit your description perfect.

Locky.

[JPMNICK]

there is only 1 dog, english bulldog.

very very very low energy, no real shedding, great with people. my parents have one now and it is really the best dog I have ever been around. They make the best family dogs I have ever seen. Sure he snores a little, but he does not mind being in a cage during the day. put him on a routine and they love it.

[Freitag]

there is only 1 dog, english bulldog.

very very very low energy, no real shedding, great with people. my parents have one now and it is really the best dog I have ever been around. They make the best family dogs I have ever seen. Sure he snores a little, but he does not mind being in a cage during the day. put him on a routine and they love it.

Drooling.

[midwestjeff]

my brother has a corgi, sheds like a motherfucker

My sister has one too.
They have to shave around it's asshole because it tends to get shit stuck in it's fur.

Unless you are into shaving dog ass once a week, I wouldn't recommend one.

It is a cute, friendly, and fun dog otherwise though.

[JPMNICK]

Drooling.

seriously he never does. well VERY rarely

[Freakshow]

Hey. I found you guys a dog.

http://common.csnstores.com/common/products/HSA/HSA1075_l.jpg


Very quiet, never sheds or drools. It's perfect...

[angrymissy]

My sister has one too.
They have to shave around it's asshole because it tends to get shit stuck in it's fur.

Unless you are into shaving dog ass once a week, I wouldn't recommend one.

It is a cute, friendly, and fun dog otherwise though.

Pronto needs ass shavings as well, the groomer calls it a "keyhole cut". When he has runny shits, it's bad news. I gotta throw him into the tub and spray his ass off with the shower attachment.

[Freitag]

Pronto needs ass shavings as well, the groomer calls it a "keyhole cut". When he has runny shits, it's bad news. I gotta throw him into the tub and spray his ass off with the shower attachment.

As I read this while I eat lunch, I slowly realize that TJ's advice in the beginning of the thread may be the best course of action.

[Freakshow]

As I read this while I eat lunch, I slowly realize that TJ's advice in the beginning of the thread may be the best course of action.





http://www.peoplecorporation.org/post_images/3100_dog-dildo.jpg


interesting...

[midwestjeff]

Freakshow?

More like Fastshow.

[Freitag]

interesting...

Damn you!

[Thebazile78]

My cousin probably has the best dog for you..Unfortunately, I forgot it's name..It looks like a sand colored pile of fur..fur feels like wool and pretty innactive..The dog is a hoot..I thought it was a stuffed animal until it moved....
low to the ground..doesn't really bark.

I know which one you're thinking about and no, although I have considered them from time-to-time.

They look like they've got dreds.

Much like white people with dredlocks, those things give me the willies.

Please don't get one of those "teapot" miniature dogs..nothing is worth a load of money and does nothing but shit in your shoes..plus, I had an unfortunate experience with one..suffice it to say it involved sex.... with a woman..rolling over and a dead dog.

Absolutely not. "Toy" and "teacup" varieties of dogs are not on our shortlist, for a multitude of reasons, the top one being the high cost of heating a house.

Also, very small mammals give me the creeps. (See my previous post about not asking me why I don't like ferrets. They give me the creeps. End of story.)

Don't get me started on the way I feel about some small breeds, like chihuahas (sorry Lisa & Lou; Bowser is probably the cutest chihuaha I've ever seen, but that doesn't make up for the other ones who freaked me out when I was in college.) People here, who I like otherwise, probably would start crying and I don't want that.

[Thebazile78]

my brother has a corgi, sheds like a motherfucker

I read that in my Googling. That would be a "no." I'm willing to accept that pretty much all dogs shed, but high shedding would probably aggravate my allergies.

I mean, I had fewer problems with the cat whenever he let me brush him on a regular basis. Also, he caused my other brother to have less allergy problems whenever we gave him a bath. (That was always interesting. Shadow hated water, but, towards the end of his life, he did seem a bit happier after a good bath, probably because the nerve damage in his hind legs made it so hard to groom himself properly.)

yeah i have one of those smart herding dogs type (aussie/border collie) and what her previous owner told me was that when those type of dogs dont get enough exercise they become obsessive-compulsive. She knew she had to give her away when she was becomed so OCD with her chew toys

GAZ, you have GOT to read the Jon Katz books about his borders!!!

They are EXACTLY like what the previous owner told you! Mr. Katz has had a number of rescued border colliess pass through his life, including his beloved Orson, whose story he tells in his book A Good Dog (http://www.amazon.com/Good-Dog-Story-Orson-Changed/dp/0812971493/ref=pd_bbs_sr_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231443113&sr=8-6) (the title should be linked to the Amazon page.)

I've been reading his essays in the "Heavy Petting" section of Slate for forever; he's got a wonderful wit, dry sense of humor and, most importantly, he's made me really think long and hard about the question of getting a dog!!!

[vjr97]

get a pitbull.they are the nicest most loyal dogs when not raised by ignorant city youth:banning:

[ecobag2]

Before considering a pug - King Charles Spaniel - really nice dog but really expensive.

So Pug.

They shed a little though but other than that.... they're the best friggin dog.

[Thebazile78]

get a pitbull.they are the nicest most loyal dogs when not raised by ignorant city youth:banning:

I've heard that and, to some extent, I believe it.

HOWEVER, there are too many kids around our neighborhood to even consider one. Parents get very fearsome when their children are involved. Additionally, I am not comfortable considering inviting a potentially violently unpredictable dog into my own home. (And they're strong dogs. I don't need a dog stronger than I am, thanks.)

Also, they are frigging ugly motherfuckers.

[midwestjeff]

HOWEVER, there are too many kids around our neighborhood.

You wouldn't have that problem if you got a pitbull.

[Thebazile78]

You wouldn't have that problem if you got a pitbull.

Yeah, see, that's exactly what I was afraid of!

[ecobag2]

he was more of a cock-er-retriever
well done.:bye:

[Coach]

I know which one you're thinking about and no, although I have considered them from time-to-time.

They look like they've got dreds.

Much like white people with dredlocks, those things give me the willies.

Ok, what about one of those dogs that looks like a Mop?
Or is that what you were thinking of?
My cousin's dog looks nothing like that.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Before considering a pug - King Charles Spaniel - really nice dog but really expensive.

So Pug.

They shed a little though but other than that.... they're the best friggin dog.

king charles spaniels have a breed heart valve defect, the average life span is 9 years

[Badinia]

If those are the criterion (I didn't read the thread, sorry) then you need one of my avatar.

Boston Terrier/Pit Bull Terrier Mix.



Oh Jeff. I met someone special in front of a Safeway, years ago. She was a Boston Terrier/Pit Bull and her name was Sunshine and she was brindle and all made of MUSCLE and had pointy ears and she was owned by a group of "traveling kids" that we bought beer for. I still think of her and wonder, if I had taken out fifty bucks cash, would they have taken her out of her filthy hemp collar and let her come live with me?

I also wonder- does she ever think of me, sometimes?

But seriously- Boston Terrier is a great way to go. They are NOT yappy. They are energetic and smart and well-dressed and their eyes operate independently, so they can keep an eye on the periphery.

http://www.glenarborsun.com/photos/BostonTerrier-Internet.jpg

[ecobag2]

king charles spaniels have a breed heart valve defect, the average life span is 9 years

That's always fascinating to me that a dog breed - the entire breed, winds up the same way somehow.

I heard recently that Irish Setters were overbred and now they're not very smart... or good for hunting or something along those lines.

[Thebazile78]

Ok, what about one of those dogs that looks like a Mop?
Or is that what you were thinking of?
My cousin's dog looks nothing like that.

Yes, I was thinking of those dogs that look like a mop.

They're supposed to be "hypoallergenic" ...

I don't trust anything where I can't see its eyes.

....

But seriously- Boston Terrier is a great way to go. They are NOT yappy. They are energetic and smart and well-dressed and their eyes operate independently, so they can keep an eye on the periphery.

What about body-temp management?

Also, do they drool?

(On the plus side, they would do well alone all day. On the minus side, they would have to wear a sweater to go for walks in the winter because they get chills easily. And they also have breathing problems.)

[TooCute]

Wait, why are you not considering a mixed bred from a shelter?

[Thebazile78]

Wait, why are you not considering a mixed bred from a shelter?

I am not opposed to a shelter dog, but I'm not the only one making the decision.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I am not opposed to a shelter dog, but I'm not the only one making the decision.

And I'm just wondering about breeds people can recommend. I'm not opposed to a shelter dog either

[moochcassidy]

youre firing blanks then?

[Badinia]

Yes, I was thinking of those dogs that look like a mop.

They're supposed to be "hypoallergenic" ...

I don't trust anything where I can't see its eyes.

What about body-temp management?

Also, do they drool?

(On the plus side, they would do well alone all day. On the minus side, they would have to wear a sweater to go for walks in the winter because they get chills easily. And they also have breathing problems.)

1. Bostons will need a sweater in the cold.

2. Drooling is not an issue. (TAKE NOTE: I now have Frenchies, so this is literally on a sliding scale. I do not recall my handsome Mr. Biggles having a ton of drool.)

3. Good Apartment dog, doesn't need a ton of space, but loves a walk!

4. Snorts when excited, snores when asleep- but I consider this a FEATURE.

5. Shedding: This is a low-shed dog, and as far as I can tell...only the white hairs come out.

[angrymissy]

Since you guys have a lot of strict requirements, I would pick a breed, and go through a breed rescue. I know you are concerned that the dog could have a past, but when we were looking into getting a 2nd Pronto - we found plenty of happy dogs... one whose owner got cancer and was dying and couldn't take care of him anymore, one where the owner had a kid and the kid was violently allergic.

The reason I say this, is you'll already know the temperament of the dog, how much it sheds, it will already be housebroken, etc. Housebreaking is no easy feat, and I don't think either of you work close enough to home to go home during lunch, right? A puppy can't hold it for 8 hours, you need to take them out constantly when they are being house trained.

[Freitag]

The weirdest thing is, I'm more prepared mentally to have a kid than have a dog. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?

I had a dog growing up, but she died when I was about 14. Out of respect to my mom, who spent the most time with her, we didn't replace her.

I was thinking about the housebreaking too... neither Liz nor I can go home during lunch to walk the dog.

My brother has two dogs, but they are really annoying.

[midwestjeff]

She was a Boston Terrier/Pit Bull and her name was Sunshine and she was brindle and all made of MUSCLE and had pointy ears and she was owned by a group of "traveling kids" that we bought beer for. I still think of her and wonder, if I had taken out fifty bucks cash, would they have taken her out of her filthy hemp collar and let her come live with me?

I also wonder- does she ever think of me, sometimes?


Awww. I bet she remembers you. And, unless those kids were completely crazy/desperate, I bet it would take a lot more than 50 bucks to let such a perfect little dog go.
I wonder if Sunshine is any relation ot my Lenny. I mean, if they were travelling, you never know.

1. Bostons will need a sweater in the cold.

2. Drooling is not an issue.

3. Good Apartment dog, doesn't need a ton of space, but loves a walk!


Lenny is only half Boston, but this is all so true. He shivers a lot in the cold. He never drools but does snort on my dashboard a lot. And, he has the most amazing bladder/bowel control. He loves to walk and will go for miles or can be content with 30 minutes a day. Plus, I work 12 hour shifts and he never has an accident.

I think this settles it. Congratulations on your new Boston Terrier!!!!

[Thebazile78]

The weirdest thing is, I'm more prepared mentally to have a kid than have a dog. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?

Nope.

(1) You don't get FMLA leave to take care of a puppy.
(2) For the most part, a baby will outgrow its messy/drooly stage in a couple years. A puppy/dog, on the other hand, always needs you in order to go outside, etc.

A lot of people use pets as a way to bridge the responsibility from being young & married to being "parents" so getting a dog is often seen as the next logical step before having children.

I've been around babies almost my entire life and know a part of how much work they require. I've also been responsible for a pet of my own. A baby will be different, but I've got it under control.

You've been getting a lot better with your nieces & nephew, now that we're able to see them more often and visit longer. Heck, you're even open to the idea of baby-sitting for them if we're ever needed!

I had a dog growing up, but she died when I was about 14. Out of respect to my mom, who spent the most time with her, we didn't replace her.

I was thinking about the housebreaking too... neither Liz nor I can go home during lunch to walk the dog.

My brother has two dogs, but they are really annoying.

The biggest thing I was thinking about was housebreaking the dog, too.

I can't come home to a messy crate every day I'm not telecommuting because the poor puppy's bladder simply can't hold it for the entire time I'm gone. It's bad enough I feel dumped on with a lot of the housework, but that would definitely put me over the edge.

We've always had a pet of some sort in my family. I miss having a cat, but, with Matt's dad being allergic, I can't get one of my own. (A cat would be a lot more compatible with our current schedule.)

[reeshy]

Stick with a beagle....they are loyal, clean, intelligent..and loving...They love nothing better than getting on your lap and licking you until you pass out....my Annie used to sleep in my bed every night....and I loved it!!!!!


Beagles are the best!!!!!!!!!!

[Thebazile78]

Bumping because the subject came up again today.

Criteria are:

(1) Short hair (due to my allergies and time/expense it takes to care for a long-haired dog)
(2) Does well alone most of the day during the week (hubby & I work full-time and are out of the house up to 12 hours a day total)
(3) Does not require any special temperature cautions (i.e. - Boston terriers need to have sweaters in the cold, etc. )
(4) Does not drool (VERY important)
(5) Smart enough to accept leash training, but not so smart it needs constant stimulation (see item #2 for reasons why)
(6) No hounds (howling would not go over very well in our neighborhood)
(7) Does well with children and other pets

[DOHO@HOME]

If you want a dog that will be there for you every step of the way get a german shepard.
I have had three so far within the last 20 years and what a dog.

[Aggie]

Bumping because the subject came up again today.

Criteria are:

(1) Short hair (due to my allergies and time/expense it takes to care for a long-haired dog)
(2) Does well alone most of the day during the week (hubby & I work full-time and are out of the house up to 12 hours a day total)
(3) Does not require any special temperature cautions (i.e. - Boston terriers need to have sweaters in the cold, etc. )
(4) Does not drool (VERY important)
(5) Smart enough to accept leash training, but not so smart it needs constant stimulation (see item #2 for reasons why)
(6) No hounds (howling would not go over very well in our neighborhood)
(7) Does well with children and other pets

I hate to be a downer but those are some pretty high expectations for a dog! They are basically children and no child could live up to those criteria. Are you sure you really want one or do you like the idea of having one? It's rare a dog will be OK being alone that much unless you have 2 dogs so they can keep each other company. Just my two cents.

[angrymissy]

Those are very high expectations. My only suggestion is to get a dog from a rescue that has already been shown to exhibit those qualities (not needing a lot of stimulation, ok being home for hours). 12 hours is a very long time... are you planning on getting a dog walker?

[drjoek]

I hate to be a downer but those are some pretty high expectations for a dog! They are basically children and no child could live up to those criteria. Are you sure you really want one or do you like the idea of having one? It's rare a dog will be OK being alone that much unless you have 2 dogs so they can keep each other company. Just my two cents.

Yeah, why even bother getting a dog.

[CountryBob]

What about a RoboDog? None of the issues that you dont want - and you can turn em off at night. Sorry no pic.

[Thebazile78]

I hate to be a downer but those are some pretty high expectations for a dog! They are basically children and no child could live up to those criteria. Are you sure you really want one or do you like the idea of having one? It's rare a dog will be OK being alone that much unless you have 2 dogs so they can keep each other company. Just my two cents.

Actually, dogs are worse than children because they're ALWAYS going to depend on you.

Personally, I'm ambivalent about the dog thing because, honestly, I'm more of a cat person than I am a dog person. I like the idea of a dog because I loved my dog growing up, but I don't care if we get one or not.

However, Matt's back on the "let's get a dog" kick, so I bumped the thread.

Honestly, I am inclined to think that my criteria are better suited to cats, which we can't have because Matt's dad is allergic.

Those are very high expectations. My only suggestion is to get a dog from a rescue that has already been shown to exhibit those qualities (not needing a lot of stimulation, ok being home for hours). 12 hours is a very long time... are you planning on getting a dog walker?

I know 12 hours is a long time; I spend 10 hours total away from the house daily because of my commute. I'm factoring in traffic and/or mandatory meetings, like the b.s. training I had last week.

I won't have time to walk the damn thing before I go to work unless I get up an hour earlier and having a dog wait until I get home at 4 isn't a reasonable expectation.

Nope, no plans to get a dog walker. That should go on a list of expenses we need to look into.

[Thebazile78]

What about a RoboDog? None of the issues that you dont want - and you can turn em off at night. Sorry no pic.

In the Shopping column at Slate.com, Daniel Engber already found the best robotic pet. It's cute, but it's creepy (http://www.slate.com/id/2206604/).

[boosterp]

Honestly, I am inclined to think that my criteria are better suited to cats, which we can't have because Matt's dad is allergic.


Well, there are methods to reduce cat dander both around the house and on the cat. Why not look into a short to medium haired cat and some of these methods?

[angrymissy]

I know 12 hours is a long time; I spend 10 hours total away from the house daily because of my commute. I'm factoring in traffic and/or mandatory meetings, like the b.s. training I had last week.

I won't have time to walk the damn thing before I go to work unless I get up an hour earlier and having a dog wait until I get home at 4 isn't a reasonable expectation.

Nope, no plans to get a dog walker. That should go on a list of expenses we need to look into.

If Matty is the one who wants the dog, will he walk it in the AM? That's the worst part, and I work at home. I get up at 8, and the dog frequently will need to go at 7. Do you have a fenced in yard? That makes it easier. I don't and I have to walk him up and down the street until he goes (10 minutes).

You should ideally have someone walking the dog first thing AM, then around lunch, then after work. I've never gotten a dog walker, but the lady I use for my cats charges about $10 a walk.

[GreatAmericanZero]

im thinking the only thing is one of those Bichon Frises. A lot of people had them in my neighborhood growing up, but they are sooooooooo faggy

[Thebazile78]

Well, there are methods to reduce cat dander both around the house and on the cat. Why not look into a short to medium haired cat and some of these methods?

I know.

We used to bathe our old cat and rinse him with dilute fabric softener because my brother Ger is allergic to pretty much everything.

Bathing a cat is an adventure, let me tell you!

But, I had a system and only got bitten once. (Shadow bit my face when I was rinsing the shampoo off of him.)

If Matty is the one who wants the dog, will he walk it in the AM? That's the worst part, and I work at home. I get up at 8, and the dog frequently will need to go at 7. Do you have a fenced in yard? That makes it easier. I don't and I have to walk him up and down the street until he goes (10 minutes).

You should ideally have someone walking the dog first thing AM, then around lunch, then after work. I've never gotten a dog walker, but the lady I use for my cats charges about $10 a walk.

That's where my dilemma lies. We don't get up at the same time because we keep different hours and we also have a disparity in the length of time we spend commuting. I'm up and out the door no later than 6:30am every morning (after getting up at 6) while his alarm goes off at 7am ... but he gets up whenever he gets up. So, I'd probably get stuck walking the dog both in the morning and in the evening, because I get home earlier as well. (KEY reason why I'm so picky about the damn thing.)

While we DO have a fenced-in yard, it's small, so the poo would still have to be picked up and disposed of if we wanted to entertain in our backyard ... which we do. I also want to put in a vegetable garden there, so that'd be off-limits.

im thinking the only thing is one of those Bichon Frises. A lot of people had them in my neighborhood growing up, but they are sooooooooo faggy

No. No. No. No.

The dog across the street must have some bichon in him, but, damn that thing can YIP!

[Don Stugots]

at 3 years old and 22 pounds, Vegas is still going on the paper. she gets walked twice a day and that is for fun and exercise

[beachbum]

I just saw this thread and believe it or not I was considering a beagle or Boston Terrier a few months ago.We decided on the Boston Terrier.We got him at 8 weeks and he is now 17 weeks.He is my first Boston.The little dude is smart,friendly,great with the kids,loving,and barks very little.He became an instant member of the family and we love him.