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CofyCrakCocaine
01-20-2009, 01:46 AM
Yeah, I'm having a depressathon every night I try to sleep. I should probably talk to Dr.Steve about this and will later when I have time. Sleeping pills don't really work. One word to describe lying down in bed. Despair.

Basically I have a Fez-like anxiety issue that takes place the instant I lie my head down on a pillow. As soon as I'm about to doze, some dumb shocking thought comes to mind like "So and So's DEAD!!!" and jerk me awake feeling sad for things and people lost. Then I lie down trying to sleep without thinking about it, but of course now all the thoughts come to town. All things from 2006 on to 1983 are thought about and next thing you know, I'm a depressed little bitch who can't sleep until 6am. No, I will never take anti-depressants, I don't trust 'em.

Ugh!! I'm ready to Heath Ledger this motherfucker. (he complained of not getting enough sleep) GIVE ME MY GODDAMN SLEEP YOU DIRTY ROTTEN STINKING SONS OF SHIT!!!

ecobag2
01-20-2009, 02:06 AM
Ok, first off- if you feel like you're going to hurt yourself... pills, or whatever - get in touch with 911. I know them. They're good people.

Also - here's another idea. I've been through that. Same thing. Definitely talk to a doctor. A guru. A chanter. A therapist. A 12 step group. Whatever. Then do what they tell you. Throw shit against the wall until something works. Something will.

I'm going to give you some hope. This is not to piss you off.

I just got 9 solid hours and feel fucking awesome. And I usually do get that type of sleep these days.

Gvac
01-20-2009, 02:10 AM
The short answer? You think too much.

Seriously.

Not that there's anything wrong with thinking. Quite the contrary. It's what you're deciding to think about and how you're processing it; that is, the perspective you're seeing these thoughts from.

You can change that perspective, but you have to really want to.

And don't rule out anti-depressants. There's nothing wrong with them, as long as you realize they're a means to an end and not an end in and of themselves.

Good luck, brother. I think we've all been there.

instrument
01-20-2009, 02:18 AM
I never touch the bed till I'm falling asleep.

I find it best to ignore sleep till you can't any longer. Sure every now and then I don't sleep at all, but I've found it works out well for me.

weekapaugjz
01-20-2009, 02:34 AM
I never touch the bed till I'm falling asleep.

I find it best to ignore sleep till you can't any longer. Sure every now and then I don't sleep at all, but I've found it works out well for me.

Same here. If I'm not asleep in the first few minutes of laying down it will be no less than an hour before falling asleep.

Bellyfullasnot
01-20-2009, 05:37 AM
This sucks, but don't let it beat you. I went through a bout of this 10 years ago and I self medicated and started a cycle of stuff that could have been avoided.

Speak to anybody about this. Don't bottle up. It's great that you're going to contact Dr. Steve but alot of folks are going through similiar issues and can help also.

disneyspy
01-20-2009, 05:52 AM
ive had a coupla bouts like this the last month,i dont know the answer,but after awhile i got so exhausted i finally started getting 2 or 3 hours and it gets better,just try settin aside time for naps

Dude!
01-20-2009, 06:02 AM
Yeah, I'm having a depressathon every night I try to sleep. I should probably talk to Dr.Steve about this and will later when I have time. Sleeping pills don't really work. One word to describe lying down in bed. Despair.

Basically I have a Fez-like anxiety issue that takes place the instant I lie my head down on a pillow. As soon as I'm about to doze, some dumb shocking thought comes to mind like "So and So's DEAD!!!" and jerk me awake feeling sad for things and people lost. Then I lie down trying to sleep without thinking about it, but of course now all the thoughts come to town. All things from 2006 on to 1983 are thought about and next thing you know, I'm a depressed little bitch who can't sleep until 6am. No, I will never take anti-depressants, I don't trust 'em.

Ugh!! I'm ready to Heath Ledger this motherfucker. (he complained of not getting enough sleep) GIVE ME MY GODDAMN SLEEP YOU DIRTY ROTTEN STINKING SONS OF SHIT!!!


you're my favorite poster
so i hope you see a doctor about this today

every once in a while i'll have just a night like this
where i get the parade of dead pets and relatives
running through my head

fortunately it is very rare
but painful when it happens

please see a doctor first
and do the obvious things like exercising, relaxing (like yoga) and
cutting out coffee and sugar

~Katja~
01-20-2009, 06:23 AM
I thinking a lot right before you fall asleep is quite normal... I do it and I also know my son does it. It is usually the first time of the day your body starts relaxing and no other influences like music, people talking or tv noise is interfering with your thoughts.

The difference is that your thoughts are fears and anxieties.
I suggest you actually take some time out for yourself when you get home, maybe some time for some sort of meditation, just turn off all noise around you and take the time to reflect on your day and your thoughts.
Maybe go for a walk in a less visited area so you have peace of mind and can let all these thoughts out and run through your mind.
Do something to process them before you go to bed.

MC Pee Pants
01-20-2009, 07:15 AM
This has been happening to me since i was 17, nothing every really works for me. I usually read though, not something to interesting to keep you awake. I usually read classics, Jack London and whatnot, standards that are good enough to read but dont hold your attention to well. If you just keep reading and reading you'll eventually just give up on yourself and pass out.

Aggie
01-20-2009, 07:22 AM
I agree with most of the posts before me. However I have a question.

How come you don't trust anti-depressents but you are willing to take sleeping pills? Just curious.

LaBoob
01-20-2009, 07:26 AM
This happens to me from time to time, and what almost always works for me is to rearrange my furniture in my bedroom. It's cathartic... the room gets really clean, and I get to fall asleep that night with a fresh new start. It's not always 100% effective, I've had to rearrange my furniture several times in a month at one particularly tough time. My last rearrangement was changing my bedroom to another room altogether. It doesn't make my problems go away, but it helps me move on from them and take my life in a new direction.

CountryBob
01-20-2009, 07:36 AM
My remedy is to play a round of golf in my mind. I start on hole #1 at one of my favorite courses and play every shot (the way that I want it to be at the time). I swear that after a few holes I am out and sleeping. If you play golf - i reccommend you try it. Or any other activity that you enjoy doing - Or, just let your mind re-live a good time playing softball, fishing or anything from your memory and let it re-play. The key is to act out or re-live a fun, good memory and your anxiety should lift. This works really good for me when my conscience will not disconnect - i can spend all night stressing about work the next day.

i hoep you will give it a try - it just might work for you too.

boosterp
01-20-2009, 08:41 AM
From a person who continues to battle depression, anxiety, and PTSD I want you to go see a professional. There is a dangerous downward spiral that can happen when the mind does not get enough rest and it sounds through your frustrations in this post that you need to get help soon.

I will share more via PM if you'd like, I just do not want to see you get to the point I did before I climbed out of a deep hole.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-21-2009, 12:33 AM
So yeah, I'm trying to get some more sleep earlier. 4:16am, instead of 6am. Somehow don't think I'll make that. Anyhow in response to all people I am alright. Alive. Will be tomorrow. I know the lethal doses of ambiem and I do not take more than 2 (3 being the official lethal amount). Just saying in a semi humorous way that I am tired of not sleeping and am making concerted efforts to sleep more. Maybe I should have put this in the confessional, because this was a humorous post to get you laughing not imply that there's any kind of harm going on (besides my poor nogging). Never will be. :-P

Anyhoo... I guess 4:30 is better than 6am.

And master Gvac... If I were able to turn it off, I woulda done so long ago.

And as for miss )or Mrs.( Aggie.. I come from a long family line of addicts. I had tried Prozac in the past and realized I was just using it to not care about anything bad. Life without fear or anxiety is hardly worth living. At least for me, since fear and anxiety is part of what lights fires under my ass and gets me to class every day or do other things equally important. If I went and started using anti-depressants, I would become...lame. Not to be too harsh on other people, I'm sure they're not all lame too. I just know my vices my dear... while I would absolutely fight it with all I've got, I worry that won't be enough. Too close to graduation to mess it up. So basically what I'm saying is that I don't trust myself.

disneyspy
01-21-2009, 12:38 AM
i shoulda posted that i went skiing saturday and my sleep cycle returned to normal,maybe try something like that?im only up cuz i had a nightmare that i cant shake

CofyCrakCocaine
01-25-2009, 11:28 PM
I think I'm gonna start a Fight Club...

Dirtbag
01-25-2009, 11:35 PM
I think I'm gonna start a Fight Club...
You're already breaking rules 1 and 2.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-26-2009, 11:01 PM
his name was robert paulson

HIS NAME WAS ROBERT PAULSON

HIS NAME WAS ROBERT PAULSON

Puggle_kicker
01-27-2009, 02:37 AM
maybe you need to take a ride with lady H before going to bed.

razorboy
01-28-2009, 06:34 AM
I'm with you buddy. I can avoid thinking too much about my problems until I lie down. Then its either be awake in the silence and dark, flip through the channels for hours until I fall asleep or self medicate and feel like shit in the morning. The problem is even though I can't sleep I am actually tired as hell so I usually end up falling asleep on the couch for a couple of hours around seven or eight which only exacerbates the problem. The last time I had this problem was in college, which I guess was the last time I was really stressed, but I could deal with lack of sleep much better then. It fucking sucks.

CofyCrakCocaine
01-29-2009, 07:21 PM
Fell asleep at 6am today. Outta bed shortly after.

I really do feel like a categorical zombie.

El Mudo
01-30-2009, 03:42 AM
Have you considered seeing a therapist? Perhaps talking about your anxiety issues will help you to cope with them?

I have the same problem with overthinking before I fall asleep. There were (and still are) many nights where I will be up all hours and not able to sleep just thinking of random stuff. It really helped build my memory bank of facts and dates, because I would lay there and just recreate stories in my head from things I had read (for example, I would put civil war battles in order)

Also, have you considered it may be something related to your diet? Are you ingesting copious amounts of caffeine or other stimulants?

CofyCrakCocaine
01-31-2009, 01:27 PM
It's just alot of stuff happened that took away my center of gravity and ever since then I've been in some sort of aimless limbo. Kind of like where you're floating higher and higher and you're wondering when someone's finally gonna turn the gravity back on. You start playing in your mind how many minutes the drop would take before your ass kissed the pavement. I guess that's why people need what they call anchors.

Got 5 hours in today.

I have a glass of orange juice at night along with a cup of yogurt. Kind of a college tradition I developed. I know there's something in the OJ that helps keep you awake, and it's also generally not smart to eat anything 4 hours before you hit the sack.