View Full Version : Ideas For Ron
Boomer
02-02-2009, 04:24 PM
Ron asked today that we, the fans, stop bitching about the show and start being helpful by coming up with ideas that can be used to make the show better. This is the thread for you to write your suggestions and ideas for the show.
Can you step up to the plate?
Or will you just start yet another "You guys are assholes because you won't tell us Fez's Secret" or "Dave sucks 'insert animals name here' balls" thread? Will you attempt to make the show better by coming up with something they can use to entertain the fans or just write a sarcastic comment that only you and 3 other shut-ins find funny?
Ronny dared you...can you deliver. :smoke:
BlackSpider
02-02-2009, 04:26 PM
I got nuthin'...
IamPixie
02-02-2009, 04:30 PM
keep on truckin, uncle daddy
http://www.websterville.net/Keep%20On%20Truckin.jpg
instrument
02-02-2009, 04:30 PM
I think the show would be a lot better off when fez tells his parents and is able to discuss his mystery weekends on air.
My idea, tell "mother" already...on air.
Hottub
02-02-2009, 04:32 PM
Don't take any calls from Dr. Joe.
Hofert
02-02-2009, 04:33 PM
I don't care what they do, it's fucking funny as long as Ron talks about anything, especially reacting to Dave and Fez. Who needs more?
watson
02-02-2009, 04:34 PM
bring in special correspondent Black Earl to celebrate Black History month, an Obama a day moment in history
or replace the Black Earl with the Black Unbearded Joker
Marc with a c
02-02-2009, 04:35 PM
come up with something they can use to entertain the fans or just write a sarcastic comment that only you and 3 other shut-ins find funny?
ha.
drjoek
02-02-2009, 04:37 PM
Don't take any calls from Dr. Joe.
drjoek sucks
BlackSpider
02-02-2009, 04:38 PM
I think the show is great whatever they do.
I've laughed at every show I've heard so far,
and it's been a few years.
There's not too many things that make me happy anymore,
But the Ron and Fez show does.
And they do it consistently.
So quit bitching about the show, unless you can do better.
And you can't...
watson
02-02-2009, 04:40 PM
Lady trucker for 3rd mic!
GreatAmericanZero
02-02-2009, 04:42 PM
the problem is, all the people that complain non-stop about the show are going to avoid this thread
this is a "kool-aid drinker" thread yuck
Foster
02-02-2009, 04:43 PM
we might as well start a thread with ideas on how God can make the universe better
FezsAssistant
02-02-2009, 04:49 PM
It seems most of their topics come from threads on this site and emails from fans to begin with. How 'bout they do some work themselves for a change?
jimmyolsenblues
02-02-2009, 04:49 PM
it could be as simple as giving fez and dave a new york times and they have to do a news article just like school.
Marc with a c
02-02-2009, 04:52 PM
i would like to hear a ron and fez talent show. bring in all the interns and producers and let them show off some of the goods. or maybe a show and tell.
Ho Slayer
02-02-2009, 04:59 PM
I would like more organized bits. Doesn't matter how long or short. The mock debate between Dave as Palin and Ronny as Biden was redonkulous.
disneyspy
02-02-2009, 05:06 PM
i'd like to hear a radio version of america's next standup,give the callers 45 seconds each to prove their worth in the 1st round
and if all you're doin is tryin to bash those that bash,shut the fuck up
ecobag2
02-02-2009, 05:06 PM
More sight gags.
Marc with a c
02-02-2009, 05:08 PM
i'd like to hear a radio version of america's next standup,give the callers 45 seconds each to prove their worth in the 1st round
holy fuck that's an awful idea.
ecobag2
02-02-2009, 05:10 PM
holy fuck that's an awful idea.
awful like a fox.
disneyspy
02-02-2009, 05:10 PM
holy fuck that's an awful idea.
do you know how awful some of the unfunny callers would be?that would be the best part of it.ron used to own a comedy club,he'd be a great judge
Hottub
02-02-2009, 05:14 PM
i would like to hear a ron and fez talent show. bring in all the interns and producers and let them show off some of the goods. or maybe a show and tell.
You stink.
Marc with a c
02-02-2009, 05:17 PM
do you know how awful some of the unfunny callers would be?
i couldn't imagine how bad they would be. they are miserable in four seconds incraments.
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 05:17 PM
do your own show prep and dont rely on the audience to do your job for you
Marc with a c
02-02-2009, 05:19 PM
You stink.
what would your talent be?
the most mediocre human being ever to walk the earth?
disneyspy
02-02-2009, 05:20 PM
inappropriate TOP 10s,i wish the dishwasher dude would call
Hottub
02-02-2009, 05:21 PM
what would your talent be?
the most mediocre human being ever to walk the earth?
Not too far off the mark. And my hair is less perfect than yours.
Tallman388
02-02-2009, 05:22 PM
More calls from Flathead. Let Mooch have a crack at EP.
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 05:23 PM
They didn't seriously ask us to provide material. So anyone who says 'do your own show prep' is a jackass and part of the problem.
If you got an idea, throw it out there. If they did some Last Comic Standing type bit, it would be their all-time low.
I say monkey news.
Judge Smails
02-02-2009, 05:28 PM
Couple of ideas:
1) wee for a Wii contest
2) prank call Chinese restaurants
3) have Dave report on Rutgers college athletics
4) male ass for Bass Ale contest
5) threaten to rape Hillary Clinton
or, if all else fails - three words: Hawaiian Shirt Fridays
MC Pee Pants
02-02-2009, 05:29 PM
I say screen the calls better. How many fucking yokles call thinking their going to get a line in but fail miserably? Thank God they did away with the Ichiban bit, people need to call up and add to a conversation not try to stand out amongst all the other schmucks.
disneyspy
02-02-2009, 05:31 PM
fax your gap for GAP
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 05:32 PM
They didn't seriously ask us to provide material. So anyone who says 'do your own show prep' is a jackass and part of the problem.
If you got an idea, throw it out there. If they did some Last Comic Standing type bit, it would be their all-time low.
I say monkey news.
im a big boy you can say my name in ref to my comment the sad fact is this show has slipped and people are afraid to say it
BambuBoy
02-02-2009, 05:32 PM
do your own show prep and dont rely on the audience to do your job for you
Hey I got an idea for you......Why don't you:
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Or maybe somebody should...
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Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 05:37 PM
Hey I got an idea for you......Why don't you:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/99gtsal/stfuxs7.gif
Or maybe somebody should...
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/99gtsal/avatar_3244.gif
good one potsie
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 05:38 PM
im a big boy you can say my name in ref to my comment the sad fact is this show has slipped and people are afraid to say it
You were not the only one. If you were, I would have quoted your post as I also am a big boy. I dig the passive aggressive tough guy stuff though.
People on a Ron and Fez message board are 'afraid' to say the show slipped? Maybe because its a fan site. I see plenty of clueless people complain about it plenty on here anyway. And you wonder why they shit on the boards some shows.
ToiletCrusher
02-02-2009, 05:40 PM
spaghetti dinners to the 202nd caller every day!
Ronnie had his Talk Radio moment today.
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I love it!!!
Judge Smails
02-02-2009, 05:44 PM
TWATT - Twinks and Taints Thursdays
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 05:45 PM
Fan doesnt mean lemming but keep drinkin the kool aid and if the hosts cant take criticism they have more problems then what is posted ona messageboard.
and passive aggresive good meaningless buzz word to describe me
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 05:47 PM
How bout douche then?
mikeyboy
02-02-2009, 05:48 PM
im a big boy you can say my name in ref to my comment the sad fact is this show has slipped and people are afraid to say it
That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean there is some kind of "emperor's new clothes" scenario. I think you're pretty off.
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 05:49 PM
How bout douche then?
so original arent you
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 05:52 PM
And the guy who says 'lemming keep drinking the kool aid' says I used a buzz word!
I've listened since night 1 in 2000. They've had many shows were I thought I would die from laughing so hard and a few where I just enjoyed but weren't the best. If I didn't think they were the funniest radio show I'd ever heard, I wouldn't listen every day and post on their message board. To say they slipped means you never got the show to begin with.
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 05:52 PM
so original arent you
You mean observant.
~Katja~
02-02-2009, 05:55 PM
i couldn't imagine how bad they would be. they are miserable in four seconds incraments.
I would love to hear a spelling bee.
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 05:56 PM
That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean there is some kind of "emperor's new clothes" scenario. I think you're pretty off.
just as that is your opinion and i think you are off.
honestly go back to the listening thread when htg was in as the fourth mic and see how many people enjoyed the show because she was able to get the host (fez) to participate.
are you saying you dont find that the least bit troubling
GreatAmericanZero
02-02-2009, 05:56 PM
And the guy who says 'lemming keep drinking the kool aid' says I used a buzz word!
I've listened since night 1 in 2000. They've had many shows were I thought I would die from laughing so hard and a few where I just enjoyed but weren't the best. If I didn't think they were the funniest radio show I'd ever heard, I wouldn't listen every day and post on their message board. To say they slipped means you never got the show to begin with.
you are one of the smarter persons on here
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 05:57 PM
And the guy who says 'lemming keep drinking the kool aid' says I used a buzz word!
I've listened since night 1 in 2000. They've had many shows were I thought I would die from laughing so hard and a few where I just enjoyed but weren't the best. If I didn't think they were the funniest radio show I'd ever heard, I wouldn't listen every day and post on their message board. To say they slipped means you never got the show to begin with.
yum ron and fez kool aid is the best
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 05:59 PM
You mean observant.
no i meant original
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 06:01 PM
you are one of the smarter persons on here
coming from wanna be star fucker #1 that doesnt say much
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 06:01 PM
yum ron and fez kool aid is the best
Maybe you think the show has slipped because you have the comedic chops of a hack.
mikeyboy
02-02-2009, 06:01 PM
just as that is your opinion and i think you are off.
honestly go back to the listening thread when htg was in as the fourth mic and see how many people enjoyed the show because she was able to get the host (fez) to participate.
are you saying you dont find that the least bit troubling
I've been over this in much greater detail before. The show is different than it was. While there are some elements that aren't as strong, there are others that are stronger than the old show. Do I wish Fez was at 100%? Absolutely, but it's still the best show on radio.
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 06:02 PM
you are one of the smarter persons on here
coming from wanna be star fucker #1 that........shit, he stole answer.
mikeyboy
02-02-2009, 06:03 PM
K_1 and HS: enough. Opinions have been stated. Unless there's more to add, please move along.
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 06:03 PM
Maybe you think the show has slipped because you have the comedic chops of a hack.
yeah that must be it
disneyspy
02-02-2009, 06:03 PM
I've been over this in much greater detail before. The show is different than it was. While there are some elements that aren't as strong, there are others that are stronger than the old show. Do I wish Fez was at 100%? Absolutely, but it's still the best show on radio.
you forgot to add woooooooo wooooooooooo woooooooooooo
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 06:05 PM
K_1 and HS: enough. Opinions have been stated. Unless there's more to add, please move along.
It never should have got to that. Sorry K_1, just got riled up buddy. To each his own.
The only opinion that mattered in this thread was GAZ's last one. Irrefutable.
west milly Tom
02-02-2009, 06:08 PM
I think there should be a hammersavage segment, at least twice a week.
biozombie
02-02-2009, 06:09 PM
Uhh, this might be totally retarded, but a while ago I thought it'd be pretty funny if ESD started writing Catty Moments/Fezzatorials for Fezzie to read.
Probably a shit idea, but someone aksed.
disneyspy
02-02-2009, 06:09 PM
i'd like to hear callers call in with different lyrics for "IT MAKES YOU FEZ"
I've been over this in much greater detail before. The show is different than it was. While there are some elements that aren't as strong, there are others that are stronger than the old show. Do I wish Fez was at 100%? Absolutely, but it's still the best show on radio.
Actually, I think Ron was like 96.4% right today. The biggest difference between the different incarnations of the show IS the callers.
Most of them suck on XM. There's got to be an average of 10-15 callers per day who can't even follow along on the phone properly while they're on hold.
People can shoot back and say that's the hosts' fault and they've 'lost a step,' but the bottom line is that it's a call-in talk radio show.
Half the show is SUPPOSE to be the audience.
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 06:09 PM
It never should have got to that. Sorry K_1, just got riled up buddy. To each his own.
The only opinion that mattered in this thread was GAZ's last one. Irrefutable.
cant we share the title otherwise i would have to hassle mikey to change my name
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 06:11 PM
I think there should be a hammersavage segment, at least twice a week.
I amend my last post so that this post is another opinion that also matters.
I'd have to check my schedule, I am so busy these days.
underdog
02-02-2009, 06:12 PM
do your own show prep and dont rely on the audience to do your job for you
Why do you even listen to the show?
im a big boy you can say my name in ref to my comment the sad fact is this show has slipped and people are afraid to say it
Ugh.
MisterSmith
02-02-2009, 06:12 PM
just as that is your opinion and i think you are off.
honestly go back to the listening thread when htg was in as the fourth mic and see how many people enjoyed the show because she was able to get the host (fez) to participate.
are you saying you dont find that the least bit troubling
You may have a point that is at least partially valid, but you are couching it in a way that is pretty inflammatory. I can't believe you are or could be surprised that you are getting blow back from members of a fan board.
Lets just try to come up with a couple of bits that we can have fun with at least.
How about: Who has the worst job?
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 06:13 PM
We settled this underdog. It's the delicious Kool-Aid!
That was a playful joke to K_1 and shouldn't be interpreted differently.
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 06:16 PM
Uhh, this might be totally retarded, but a while ago I thought it'd be pretty funny if ESD started writing Catty Moments/Fezzatorials for Fezzie to read.
Probably a shit idea, but someone aksed.
I think something is there. Dave is a good writer and Fez (when he's on) is an incredibly funny performer. But Catty Moments/Fezatorials come from such a woman hating/gay place that only Fez knows.
I never understood why they didn't get out of the studio more. I don't mean live shows, I mean send Dave onto the streets of NY when its warm and let him go nuts. Or go out in Central Park and meet new AJ Dynamites on the fly.
MisterSmith
02-02-2009, 06:17 PM
Actually, I think Ron was like 96.4% right today. The biggest difference between the different incarnations of the show IS the callers.
Most of them suck on XM. There's got to be an average of 10-15 callers per day who can't even follow along on the phone properly while they're on hold.
People can shoot back and say that's the hosts' fault and they've 'lost a step,' but the bottom line is that it's a call-in talk radio show.
Half the show is SUPPOSE to be the audience.
Actually, I think an effective call screener would be a huge asset. However, that also means some training by Ron and/or Fez so the screener(s) know what to do and not to do.
It is something that would have been easier to do at the start of the XM Era, but the EP at the time wasn't particularly effective.
hammersavage
02-02-2009, 06:19 PM
Actually, I think an effective call screener would be a huge asset. However, that also means some training by Ron and/or Fez so the screener(s) know what to do and not to do.
Just move down to the 1st floor so Staples can have his job back.
thejives
02-02-2009, 06:20 PM
-They should make a brown paper suit jacket for Fez to wear.
-Light the ends of the beards on fire and the first person to douse it loses.
-Gvac. More Gvac.
-Auction of Fez to an illegal to marry to get a green card.
Serpico1103
02-02-2009, 06:21 PM
I say screen the calls better. How many fucking yokles call thinking their going to get a line in but fail miserably? Thank God they did away with the Ichiban bit, people need to call up and add to a conversation not try to stand out amongst all the other schmucks.
Call Screener: Are you a dentist?
Dr: Yes
Call Screener: *click*
Knowledged_one
02-02-2009, 06:21 PM
Just move down to the 1st floor so Staples can have his job back.
has to be ground floor didnt he trip walking up the subway stairs
Just move down to the 1st floor so Staples can have his job back.
STAPLES!!!! NOW!!!!!!
Seriously, though...they can't steal Al Dukes back from Boomer & Carton?
Serpico1103
02-02-2009, 06:26 PM
More Crazy Jen. But not too much.
More Crazy Jen. But not too much.
If only you knew what you just did, you fool!!!
Now she'll call the show tomorrow, stay on the line for 40 minutes, and just keep saying "Ronnie, all thems people on RonFez.net be asking 'Where's Crazy Jen' and I's right here Ronnie...I'ma come up to New York and hang out wit Fezzie and be on eight reality shows...Trenton style."
We're dooooooooooooooooooooooomed
Fred from Brooklyn
02-02-2009, 06:33 PM
One of the biggest studies on names was conducted by the Sinrod Marketing Group's International Opinion panel. After surveying 75,000 adults, the panel found that names people associated with intelligence, for example, include:
Women:
Abigail,
Alexis,
Grace,
Leah,
Meryl and
Vanessa
Men:
Alexander,
David,
John,
Kenneth,
Samuel and
Tim
Names most associated with leadership include:
Women:
Ruth
Men:
Alexander,
Dwight and
Lance
When it comes to being hardworking, the edge goes to:
Women:
Ada,
Ingrid,
Marie and
Margaret
Men:
Jake,
Manuel,
Ron and
Todd
Like he needs us or this thread...patoooey
biozombie
02-02-2009, 06:36 PM
who the fuck is Todd?
who the fuck is Todd?
http://www.lossimpsonsonline.com.ar/personajes/todd-flanders/todd-flanders.gif
Iron helps us play!
spainlinx0
02-02-2009, 06:39 PM
Frankly, I think the show is great, and I can't imagine a day when I wouldn't listen unless God forbid they were yanked off the air everywhere. Then I would probably just listen to old shows I missed.
I will say this about the callers. Noon to three is not the most conducive time to a show that wants a lot of caller participation. I don't remember the last time I have heard the show live. I work during those hours, and I cannot stream the show at work. I record and listen to the entire show every day and there are many times I wish I could have called in, but obviously that won't ever happen.
People are working. Move the show back to nights and I bet you would see the return of comedy pyramids real quick. However since that doesn't seem to be a likely possibility I'll try to come up with some things for the show.
Some ideas for the show:
Fez should have a written bit about his nights in Chelsea. Remember in DC when Fez didn't watch TV for a week, and he wrote the audio diaries? That was really great. I would love for him to write some stories about Chelsea. That exaggerated descent into no-tv madness was absolutely hilarious. Make it a Monday thing. Fez's "Secret Audio Diary."
More of Fez making Ron uncomfortable with gay references. One of the things I missed the most while Fezzie was going through his ordeals discovering his "secret" is that he moved away from making gay references. He has really been doing this the last few shows, and I love it. I loved him referring to Dave's Hitler pubes. More making Ron uncomfortable with gay stuff.
Fez's musical journey. The staff has to suggest one CD every 2 days. During those 2 days Fez has to listen to that CD at least 10 times. Ron always says Fez doesn't know enough about music being in radio, and I bet this would be a great way to broaden his tastes. Plus, I would be very interested what CDs they would make Fez listen to. You could do it chronologically, or random. I think it would be very cool to get Fez's thoughts on classic CDs that Ron, Dave, and Pepper always talk about.
I know I only mentioned Fez stuff for the most part, but that's because I love Fez, and I love Fez's bits. Maybe my ideas are stupid, but if Ron wants ideas, this is what you get. I'm an accountant, not a creative type.
When it comes to being hardworking, the edge goes to:
Women:
Ada,
Ingrid,
Marie and
Margaret
Men:
Jake,
Manuel,
Ron and
Todd
Hard working???
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
MC Pee Pants
02-02-2009, 06:41 PM
I thought i had a valid point pages ago. :glurps:
Drunky McBetidont
02-02-2009, 06:44 PM
i'd like the show to be broadcast from my garage once in a while. i am only 20 minutes from pinellis park, so they can sleep at fez's parents house. i'll bake cookies and supply punch.
they have to bring the radio-making-machines because i don't have any of that stuff.
Fred from Brooklyn
02-02-2009, 06:47 PM
Hard working???
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Hey I have sat there and watched welding, bricklaying, Plumbing, debris bagging.....
Oh sorry that was a jobsite, as you were...
Serpico1103
02-02-2009, 06:52 PM
If only you knew what you just did, you Genius!!!
Now she'll call the show tomorrow, stay on the line for 40 minutes, and just keep saying "Ronnie, all thems people on RonFez.net be asking 'Where's Crazy Jen' and I's right here Ronnie...I'ma come up to New York and hang out wit Fezzie and be on eight reality shows...Trenton style."
We're dooooooooooooooooooooooomed
Thanks. That is exactly what I wanted. Once every other week is good enough.
hotshot70
02-02-2009, 07:38 PM
how about not allowing that wicked Shirley Phelps-Roper from spewing her hatred and ignorance. Many friends of mine in the LBGT community have agreed to launch a boycott if she is allowed to speak. Or, at least allow someone part of LBGT, PFLAG, GLAAD, or other gay clubs to speak in rebuttal.
underdog
02-02-2009, 07:40 PM
how about not allowing that wicked Shirley Phelps-Roper from spewing her hatred and ignorance. Many friends of mine in the LBGT community have agreed to launch a boycott if she is allowed to speak. Or, at least allow someone part of LBGT, PFLAG, GLAAD, or other gay clubs to speak in rebuttal.
Wow. Way to not get it.
ecobag2
02-02-2009, 07:40 PM
Earl was the best.
OK, here's my completely honest view of the 2009 version of the Ron and Fez show. I'll start with the positives, and I swear to you I'm not a Kool-Aid drinker.
1) Ron's as quick as ever, if not more so. His ability to think on his feet and talk about any subject under the sun and make it interesting is uncanny. I'd listen to him talk about knitting.
2) Fez is quickly regaining his groove. He's a lot more relaxed the past two weeks and really seems to be having fun once more. I'm loving what I'm hearing lately.
3) Dave is an invaluable asset to the show, and if he hasn't won you over by now you're in denial. When Ron reigns him in, Dave can provide a lot more than "gonzo" humor, too.
4) I firmly believe that losing Earl was a classic case of addition by subtraction. See #2 above. Coincidence? I think not.
Now, as to what I think could improve the show?
Ron said today the most frequent complaint from listeners is that the show is "different" from the early days, and that the callers just aren't the same caliber as they once were.
My suggestions?
1) Bring back Instant Feedback. Yes, the callers were great back in the day, but so were the IFers. For whatever reason, some people get completely flustered when they call in or can't even bring themselves to dial the phone, and they're more comfortable behind their keyboard. If that option was still around, the witty repartee and comedy pyramids would flourish once more.
2) Lose Paltalk. No, I'm not a hater, I assure you. I just think it's far too distracting to have on in studio. You can tell when the boys are watching something or someone on Paltalk and only half paying attention to what they're saying. They stutter, stammer, and lose their train of thought. Ditto for cell phone texting. Instant Feedback and/or IM would be a lot better in keeping the show fast paced and streamlined, if that's what is trying to be recaptured from the "old days."
3) (obviously wishful thinking and maybe not possible or practical) Go back to nights. The show was incredible when it was on from 7-11PM back in the day. People could devote time to listening and not just hear bits and pieces, as is the case with most of us who work during the day. Speaking for myself, I come in to the middle of conversations all the time, thus making it nearly impossible for me to call in and participate in any way. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
That's it in a nutshell.
I'm not complaining, just pointing out what's most different these days and my ideas on how to bring back the fast paced, caller participation shows.
All that being said, I'll listen to this show for as long as it's around.
I love the guys (and the show, in all its various incarnations) that much.
underdog
02-02-2009, 07:49 PM
I agree with everything Gvac said.
TooLowBrow
02-02-2009, 07:51 PM
OK, here's my completely honest view of the 2009 version of the Ron and Fez show. I'll start with the positives, and I swear to you I'm not a Kool-Aid drinker.
1) Ron's as quick as ever, if not more so. His ability to think on his feet and talk about any subject under the sun and make it interesting is uncanny. I'd listen to him talk about knitting.
2) Fez is quickly regaining his groove. He's a lot more relaxed the past two weeks and really seems to be having fun once more. I'm loving what I'm hearing lately.
3) Dave is an invaluable asset to the show, and if he hasn't won you over by now you're in denial. When Ron reigns him in, Dave can provide a lot more than "gonzo" humor, too.
4) I firmly believe that losing Earl was a classic case of addition by subtraction. See #2 above. Coincidence? I think not.
Now, as to what I think could improve the show?
Ron said today the most frequent complaint from listeners is that the show is "different" from the early days, and that the callers just aren't the same caliber as they once were.
My suggestions?
1) Bring back Instant Feedback. Yes, the callers were great back in the day, but so were the IFers. For whatever reason, some people get completely flustered when they call in or can't even bring themselves to dial the phone, and they're more comfortable behind their keyboard. If that option was still around, the witty repartee and comedy pyramids would flourish once more.
2) Lose Paltalk. No, I'm not a hater, I assure you. I just think it's far too distracting to have on in studio. You can tell when the boys are watching something or someone on Paltalk and only half paying attention to what they're saying. They stutter, stammer, and lose their train of thought. Ditto for cell phone texting. Instant Feedback and/or IM would be a lot better in keeping the show fast paced and streamlined, if that's what is trying to be recaptured from the "old days."
3) (obviously wishful thinking and maybe not possible or practical) Go back to nights. The show was incredible when it was on from 7-11PM back in the day. People could devote time to listening and not just hear bits and pieces, as is the case with most of us who work during the day. Speaking for myself, I come in to the middle of conversations all the time, thus making it nearly impossible for me to call in and participate in any way. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
That's it in a nutshell.
I'm not complaining, just pointing out what's most different these days and my ideas on how to bring back the fast paced, caller participation shows.
All that being said, I'll listen to this show for as long as it's around.
I love the guys (and the show, in all its various incarnations) that much.
no mention of the extra post shows? the sat and sun shows? (big city, r.b.i.)
Hofert
02-02-2009, 07:53 PM
how about not allowing that wicked Shirley Phelps-Roper from spewing her hatred and ignorance. Many friends of mine in the LBGT community have agreed to launch a boycott if she is allowed to speak. Or, at least allow someone part of LBGT, PFLAG, GLAAD, or other gay clubs to speak in rebuttal.
I think Ron does an amazing job of exposing her for what she is, while somehow making it funny. I don't think a lot of people would know what that bitch is up to if not for Mr. B. Also, I think her definition of F***s is anyone that doesn't belong to her church. PEACE AND LOVE.
spainlinx0
02-02-2009, 08:01 PM
Damnit Gvac steals half my points and gets all the credit. :(
rexdart
02-02-2009, 08:42 PM
The best i can offer is to suggest "keep talking." i listen to the show because i enjoy the entertaining voices and conversation.
being able to interact via instant feedback would be great as I can shoot off a quick IM rather than try to call in while working.
its all good. i enjoy the show, even when the wheels fall off.
PS did anyone else notice that Fezzy looks like Erock's uncle? does this mean erock has a secret too?
CofyCrakCocaine
02-02-2009, 09:23 PM
Gvac has said good things.
My suggestions for caller improvement:
1) Someone resurrect Dan from Hoboken, then make clones.
2) Make everyone, including me, 9 years younger and that would be pretty awesome.
3) Nuke the South and Midwest. It's the only way to be sure.
Sorry everyone I like who isn't from the tri-state area. it's just business. :smoke:
spoon
02-02-2009, 10:03 PM
I couldn't agree more with "the heart of ronfez.net" himself, Gvac. First off, I can't tell you how much I'm appreciative of the show being back in any way in the NYC area where it belongs. That being said, the paltalk point is huge. It took away from many hard core fans versus those people who just sit on cam all day and kill good convo's all the time. The in fighting between the two rooms, all the attention whoring, it's old hat.
As for actual suggestions, I'm loving Fez getting back into it as he has. Miss the big guy, and he's really had a little edge/confidence again. I really don't know why it was ever gone, but health issues do have a way of killing your swagger.
Just as Greg said, Ronnie is really rolling, but seems to be hands off with a select few....especially if they have tits. I understand the respect angle, believe it or not I do, but to let some of these people do what they do and not get their deserved heat is confusing sometimes. In fact, at times I actually think he's too hard on Fez, while letting others slide. Odd, but I could be wrong.
My biggest issue is all the inside guests versus a constant stream of new blood like in the past. Sure it's really up to the show to do what they choose, but in the past the show was just that much more all encompassing. The Cappo shows, night of fights, bar crawls and more. Now when you listen it's the golden crew every other day, at events it's been less open than in the past. I'm an old crew type too, just not one to push for attention. I truly think some people need to back off, but that's just my op.
weekapaugjz
02-03-2009, 12:04 AM
No more aj dynamite. Ever.
No more lady trucker calls.
More big A.
Boomer
02-03-2009, 03:56 AM
Like he needs us or this thread...patoooey
He doesn't.
I just wanted to prove his point about the listeners sucking. You see, it is only a theory until it can be proven by an independant party; then it becomes a law. :dry:
MichiganJim
02-03-2009, 04:00 AM
It's all about call screening. There are those of us that just aren't very good on the phone. We may have a funny point but somehow while on hold we lose it and then get really really flustered. We make an ass of ourselves (which can be funny when it's someone else) but is also sometimes really cringe worthy. If it is a really annoying call, like one of mine, or that guy from yeterday it can really disrupt the flow.
I've only been listening for a couple of years but when I heard replays that include the comedy pyramid it makes me wish they were still doing it, as the replay I heard (a really old show) was hilarious and forced the callers to be on point, short and sweet.
That Ichibon thing also brought good callers in because sometimes they came up with a story I hadn't heard about and often sent the show in a strong direction for the first half hour.
Finally, Ron, Fez, Dave and the gang (including regular callers like Blowhard and Fred) seem to really have alot of fun. They appear to thouroghly enjoy what they do and when they do something like the super bowl party or the after meetings we want to be a part of the fun. What we have to realize is we can be a part simply by listening and enjoying.
The Paltalk thing is good (even though I sometimes don't like it) because those of us that can't seem to talk on the phones can have fun, interact, watch others, and feel even more a part of the show
Whatever direction the show goes I'll be a listener as it makes the long drives I have between appointments alot more interesting.
Mullenax
02-03-2009, 04:00 AM
More East Side Dave singing over recordings of popular songs, please.
Oh wait- that's a request, not an idea.
yojimbo7248
02-03-2009, 04:10 AM
I couldn't agree more with "the heart of ronfez.net" himself, Gvac.
It stuck! excellent.
I like CCC's idea about nuking South and Midwest or at least banning their callers. I cringe when I hear a thick hayseed accent say, "Ron, you sound like a million bucks"
My only other suggestion is more lleeder. Bring him in the studio more, more lleeder calls. Seriously, the guy cracks me up and he always makes good points.
ToiletCrusher
02-03-2009, 04:15 AM
It stuck! excellent.
I like CCC's idea about nuking South and Midwest or at least banning their callers. I cringe when I hear a thick hayseed accent say, "Ron, you sound like something I will never have"
Fixed!!!
More East Side Dave singing over recordings of popular songs, please.
Oh wait- that's a request, not an idea.
Dave is great but his singing is torture. The sad/hysterical thing is he thinks he can actually sing
Mullenax
02-03-2009, 04:50 AM
Dave is great but his singing is torture. The sad/hysterical thing is he thinks he can actually sing
The McCain cover songs for the election and the Jay Mohr gossip sing-overs had me rolling.
But I have no ideas for the show, just the ability to list things I like.
PanterA
02-03-2009, 06:08 AM
2) Lose Paltalk. No, I'm not a hater, I assure you. I just think it's far too distracting to have on in studio. You can tell when the boys are watching something or someone on Paltalk and only half paying attention to what they're saying. They stutter, stammer, and lose their train of thought. Ditto for cell phone texting. Instant Feedback and/or IM would be a lot better in keeping the show fast paced and streamlined, if that's what is trying to be recaptured from the "old days."Although I completely agree on bringing back the instant feed back...
How does that statement make ANY sense? Both reading an IM or Instant feedback would be the same thing if they were reading paltalk or phone text. If you listen to the old shows, Ron would lose train of thought reading IM's.
Why would you want to take AWAY access to the show? I just dont get it?
I understand that a bunch of people cant access paltalk during listening hours and maybe feel like they are missing out, but the same is true for those of you using the listening threads. Listening threads are somewhat new to the audience, yet when I'm working out on the street and cant access the listening threads, I dont go and demand listening threads not exist any longer. I hate coming home from work and not see any threads about things that happened on the show because everyone talked about it in the listening thread already. Well guess what? I suck it up because people enjoy the listening threads.
So guess what? Suck it up cause the paltalk is a fantastic way to interact with the audience.
drjoek
02-03-2009, 06:18 AM
Actually, I think an effective call screener would be a huge asset. However, that also means some training by Ron and/or Fez so the screener(s) know what to do and not to do.
It is something that would have been easier to do at the start of the XM Era, but the EP at the time wasn't particularly effective.
Call Screener: Are you a dentist?
Dr: Yes
Call Screener: *click*
case in point
I think the call screener comment is on the money. Rons complaint is that the callers have been aweful including a certain dentist who tried to call yesterday when Ron was in a mood. They need to train someone to do this job. Like Staples who did it so well. If someone is on the phones consistently doing this job it would help. Having whomever is not on the air do the job is going to lead to inconsistentcy. If you just have anyone answering phones and putting calls through without any thought and perhaps a little information your going to end up with this problem.
The staff is half what it was a year ago if you think about it. Pitzy is gone Earl is gone and Dave really isn't a producer anymore. Hes an onair talent so there really isnt much support to keep the show rolling as Ron is complaining about.
So perhaps some of it is us bad callers and some shared blame with the ineffective staff to screen and put calls through.
yojimbo7248
02-03-2009, 06:31 AM
case in point
I think the call screener comment is on the money. Rons complaint is that the callers have been aweful including a certain dentist who tried to call yesterday when Ron was in a mood. They need to train someone to do this job. Like Staples who did it so well. If someone is on the phones consistently doing this job it would help. Having whomever is not on the air do the job is going to lead to inconsistentcy. If you just have anyone answering phones and putting calls through without any thought and perhaps a little information your going to end up with this problem.
The staff is half what it was a year ago if you think about it. Pitzy is gone Earl is gone and Dave really isn't a producer anymore. Hes an onair talent so there really isnt much support to keep the show rolling as Ron is complaining about.
So perhaps some of it is us bad callers and some shared blame with the ineffective staff to screen and put calls through.
stop beating yourself up, man. I think you need to call in today. You get knocked off a horse, get back on immediately.
foodcourtdruide
02-03-2009, 06:47 AM
I agree with all of Gvac's points about the show. Gvac for EP? Hmm...
disneyspy
02-03-2009, 07:20 AM
It stuck! excellent.
I like CCC's idea about nuking South and Midwest or at least banning their callers. I cringe when I hear a thick hayseed accent say, "Ron, you sound like a million bucks"
My only other suggestion is more lleeder. Bring him in the studio more, more lleeder calls. Seriously, the guy cracks me up and he always makes good points.
lleeder is great,but yesterday ALL the crappy callers(except lady trucker)had NE accents,i wish you people would listen as much as you profess to before making such stupid points.
i know im one of few dozen here that remember when they were syndicated only in the southeast(with a coupla texas markets)but quit tryin to play the blame game on callers outside of your area cuz they had great callers back in the day and they were more witty and on topic.this point is getting on my nerves,its a NATIONAL radio callin show,get that through your thick skulls
west milly Tom
02-03-2009, 07:24 AM
lleeder is great,but yesterday ALL the crappy callers(except lady trucker)had NE accents,i wish you people would listen as much as you profess to before making such stupid points.
i know im one of few dozen here that remember when they were syndicated only in the southeast(with a coupla texas markets)but quit tryin to play the blame game on callers outside of your area cuz they had great callers back in the day and they were more witty and on topic.this point is getting on my nerves,its a NATIONAL radio callin show,get that through your thick skulls
Stop trying to defend all your hick neighbors. Its always the gayseeds and dentists that muck everything up.
disneyspy
02-03-2009, 07:29 AM
Stop trying to defend all your hick neighbors. Its always the gayseeds and dentists that muck everything up.
ok maybe the people that have normal accents are dentists,i'll give you that and maybe all the NE accents yesterday were all dentists,they should just go with serpico's idea for call screeners
yojimbo7248
02-03-2009, 07:33 AM
lleeder is great,but yesterday ALL the crappy callers(except lady trucker)had NE accents,i wish you people would listen as much as you profess to before making such stupid points.
i know im one of few dozen here that remember when they were syndicated only in the southeast(with a coupla texas markets)but quit tryin to play the blame game on callers outside of your area cuz they had great callers back in the day and they were more witty and on topic.this point is getting on my nerves,its a NATIONAL radio callin show,get that through your thick skulls
I suddenly imagined the show with nothing but callers with fake mobster Brooklyn accents. Holy shit. I take back everything I said about you SE and midwest callers.
west milly Tom
02-03-2009, 07:33 AM
ok maybe the people that have normal accents are dentists,i'll give you that and maybe all the NE accents yesterday were all dentists,they should just go with serpico's idea for call screeners
Lol, you got me belly laughing with this one.
CofyCrakCocaine
02-03-2009, 12:04 PM
Although I completely agree on bringing back the instant feed back...
How does that statement make ANY sense? Both reading an IM or Instant feedback would be the same thing if they were reading paltalk or phone text. If you listen to the old shows, Ron would lose train of thought reading IM's.
Why would you want to take AWAY access to the show? I just dont get it?
I understand that a bunch of people cant access paltalk during listening hours and maybe feel like they are missing out, but the same is true for those of you using the listening threads. Listening threads are somewhat new to the audience, yet when I'm working out on the street and cant access the listening threads, I dont go and demand listening threads not exist any longer. I hate coming home from work and not see any threads about things that happened on the show because everyone talked about it in the listening thread already. Well guess what? I suck it up because people enjoy the listening threads.
So guess what? Suck it up cause the paltalk is a fantastic way to interact with the audience.
Actually, there is a difference. PalTalk is more distracting because it provides visual stimulation of being a computer screen, a moving image, and text all combined. Whereas the instant feedback was just a bunch of text with no pictures. That's distracting, yes, but not as distracting as a live video feed. Especially when that live video feed is featuring women you know baring their tits.
That said, I don't give a damn one way or the other PalTalk-wise. Just like instant feedback, paltalk brings in some winners and a whole lot of losers. I just don't agree with your idea that it's not as distracting as instant feedback.
PanterA
02-03-2009, 12:15 PM
Actually, there is a difference. PalTalk is more distracting because it provides visual stimulation of being a computer screen, a moving image, and text all combined. Whereas the instant feedback was just a bunch of text with no pictures. That's distracting, yes, but not as distracting as a live video feed. Especially when that live video feed is featuring women you know baring their tits.I've been in the pal talk room many many times and have yet to see a boob during the Ron and Fez show. I'm sure it's happened, but Friday night shows on WNEW used to be 100x's crazier, and those were some of the best shows.
All I'm asking is why take away access to the show from the fans?
CofyCrakCocaine
02-03-2009, 12:19 PM
I've been in the pal talk room many many times and have yet to see a boob during the Ron and Fez show. I'm sure it's happened, but Friday night shows on WNEW used to be 100x's crazier, and those were some of the best shows.
All I'm asking is why take away access to the show from the fans?
Theoretically (I have no stat sheets before me) the argument goes that some people get the show off paltalk and do not pay for subs as a result. While I doubt this means much at all for the XM/Sirius stock (which I bought a few hundred fucking shares of), that's the only legitimate complaint I can imagine someone cooking up for why paltalk should go.
That said, I don't believe that horseshit for a second. Keep it going. Even if it IS more distracting. (and I've only been WOW'd once and it was at night 8 years ago but it does happen)
patrick187
02-03-2009, 12:20 PM
How about this, Fez and Dave take Viagra and have to do an entire show with raging hard-ons.
spoon
02-03-2009, 12:28 PM
Although I completely agree on bringing back the instant feed back...
How does that statement make ANY sense? Both reading an IM or Instant feedback would be the same thing if they were reading paltalk or phone text. If you listen to the old shows, Ron would lose train of thought reading IM's.
Why would you want to take AWAY access to the show? I just dont get it?
I understand that a bunch of people cant access paltalk during listening hours and maybe feel like they are missing out, but the same is true for those of you using the listening threads. Listening threads are somewhat new to the audience, yet when I'm working out on the street and cant access the listening threads, I dont go and demand listening threads not exist any longer. I hate coming home from work and not see any threads about things that happened on the show because everyone talked about it in the listening thread already. Well guess what? I suck it up because people enjoy the listening threads.
So guess what? Suck it up cause the paltalk is a fantastic way to interact with the audience.
I disagree, to me there is a huge difference to all you are comparing.
spoon
02-03-2009, 12:31 PM
Stop trying to defend all your hick neighbors. Its always the gayseeds and dentists that muck everything up.
ahahaha!
PanterA
02-03-2009, 12:34 PM
I disagree, to me there is a huge difference to all you are comparing.explain the difference?
Although I completely agree on bringing back the instant feed back...
How does that statement make ANY sense? Both reading an IM or Instant feedback would be the same thing if they were reading paltalk or phone text. If you listen to the old shows, Ron would lose train of thought reading IM's.
Why would you want to take AWAY access to the show? I just dont get it?
I understand that a bunch of people cant access paltalk during listening hours and maybe feel like they are missing out, but the same is true for those of you using the listening threads. Listening threads are somewhat new to the audience, yet when I'm working out on the street and cant access the listening threads, I dont go and demand listening threads not exist any longer. I hate coming home from work and not see any threads about things that happened on the show because everyone talked about it in the listening thread already. Well guess what? I suck it up because people enjoy the listening threads.
So guess what? Suck it up cause the paltalk is a fantastic way to interact with the audience.
I said I wasn't a Paltalk hater.
And like CCC said, there is a difference because it's visual. Also, there is only a limited amount of cameras that can be viewed at once. It does not allow mass participation like Instant Feedback or IM did.
If the boys felt like doing a comedy pyramid, for example, Ron could sign onto AIM just for that segment and weed through the responses. With Paltalk, it's only going to be the same few people that are interacting over and over again.
That's the difference.
lleeder
02-03-2009, 12:40 PM
How about this, Fez and Dave take Viagra and have to do an entire show with raging hard-ons.
I had always assumed they were doing the show with raging hard-ons. Now I'm disappointed.
PanterA
02-03-2009, 12:43 PM
I said I wasn't a Paltalk hater.
And like CCC said, there is a difference because it's visual. Also, there is only a limited amount of cameras that can be viewed at once. It does not allow mass participation like Instant Feedback or IM did.
If the boys felt like doing a comedy pyramid, for example, Ron could sign onto AIM just for that segment and weed through the responses. With Paltalk, it's only going to be the same few people that are interacting over and over again.
That's the difference.I'm not saying you're a hater but you did say to lose it.
1) There isnt a limit on cameras to view. (not the kind of account the show uses)
2) You dont need a camera to interact with Ron.
3) There is an IM feature on paltalk
4) When they used AIM the majority of the times Ron would use the same people.
Where's the difference?
People can IM from their office or their phone. They can't use Paltalk.
There's another huge difference.
C'mon, Bobby.
Be reasonable.
You're basically saying "TV, radio...what's the difference?"
they oughta get a black guy to be on the show
Don Stugots
02-03-2009, 12:46 PM
Uhh, this might be totally retarded, but a while ago I thought it'd be pretty funny if ESD started writing Catty Moments/Fezzatorials for Fezzie to read.
Probably a shit idea, but someone aksed.
i think this is a good idea. it might make a good pay off to a bet this way you can have the tension of Fez not wanting to say the stuff but is forced too.
Dirtybird12
02-03-2009, 12:50 PM
Take the Ron and Fez Show on tour.
The R&F Express. Broadcast from a different state each day of the week until ya reach the west coast.
..without ever ReALLY leaving NYC
Don Stugots
02-03-2009, 12:55 PM
OK, here's my completely honest view of the 2009 version of the Ron and Fez show. I'll start with the positives, and I swear to you I'm not a Kool-Aid drinker.
1) Ron's as quick as ever, if not more so. His ability to think on his feet and talk about any subject under the sun and make it interesting is uncanny. I'd listen to him talk about knitting.
2) Fez is quickly regaining his groove. He's a lot more relaxed the past two weeks and really seems to be having fun once more. I'm loving what I'm hearing lately.
3) Dave is an invaluable asset to the show, and if he hasn't won you over by now you're in denial. When Ron reigns him in, Dave can provide a lot more than "gonzo" humor, too.
4) I firmly believe that losing Earl was a classic case of addition by subtraction. See #2 above. Coincidence? I think not.
Now, as to what I think could improve the show?
Ron said today the most frequent complaint from listeners is that the show is "different" from the early days, and that the callers just aren't the same caliber as they once were.
My suggestions?
1) Bring back Instant Feedback. Yes, the callers were great back in the day, but so were the IFers. For whatever reason, some people get completely flustered when they call in or can't even bring themselves to dial the phone, and they're more comfortable behind their keyboard. If that option was still around, the witty repartee and comedy pyramids would flourish once more.
2) Lose Paltalk. No, I'm not a hater, I assure you. I just think it's far too distracting to have on in studio. You can tell when the boys are watching something or someone on Paltalk and only half paying attention to what they're saying. They stutter, stammer, and lose their train of thought. Ditto for cell phone texting. Instant Feedback and/or IM would be a lot better in keeping the show fast paced and streamlined, if that's what is trying to be recaptured from the "old days."
3) (obviously wishful thinking and maybe not possible or practical) Go back to nights. The show was incredible when it was on from 7-11PM back in the day. People could devote time to listening and not just hear bits and pieces, as is the case with most of us who work during the day. Speaking for myself, I come in to the middle of conversations all the time, thus making it nearly impossible for me to call in and participate in any way. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
That's it in a nutshell.
I'm not complaining, just pointing out what's most different these days and my ideas on how to bring back the fast paced, caller participation shows.
All that being said, I'll listen to this show for as long as it's around.
I love the guys (and the show, in all its various incarnations) that much.
I think with Earl gone Fez is coming back since he no longer has to worry about what Earl is doing.
A night time slot would be great. As it is now, I am always at least one day behind maybe two since I cannot listen live, hence, I cannot add anything. The Free FM show was proof of how many more people can listen from 6-9.
PanterA
02-03-2009, 12:57 PM
People can IM from their office or their phone. They can't use Paltalk.
There's another huge difference.
C'mon, Bobby.
Be reasonable.
You're basically saying "TV, radio...what's the difference?"All I'm saying is that I AGREE with bringing back instant feedback, but your reasons for the show to lose paltalk are a bit selfish. Why advocate losing another way for the fans to listen and enjoy the show?
"There's no Sonic burgers in Queens and they taunt me with there commercials so lets close the place down!"
Just appreciate and accept what the show is doing for the fans.
Fred from Brooklyn
02-03-2009, 12:57 PM
case in point
I think the call screener comment is on the money. Rons complaint is that the callers have been aweful including a certain dentist who tried to call yesterday when Ron was in a mood. They need to train someone to do this job. Like Staples who did it so well. If someone is on the phones consistently doing this job it would help. Having whomever is not on the air do the job is going to lead to inconsistentcy. If you just have anyone answering phones and putting calls through without any thought and perhaps a little information your going to end up with this problem.
The staff is half what it was a year ago if you think about it. Pitzy is gone Earl is gone and Dave really isn't a producer anymore. Hes an onair talent so there really isnt much support to keep the show rolling as Ron is complaining about.
So perhaps some of it is us bad callers and some shared blame with the ineffective staff to screen and put calls through.
I would give credence to this post...IF YOU WEREN'T THE CALLER THAT STARTED THAT TIRADE!!!!
Knowledged_one
02-03-2009, 01:01 PM
i think this is a good idea. it might make a good pay off to a bet this way you can have the tension of Fez not wanting to say the stuff but is forced too.
Isnt that what happened at the end of the slave bit and then Fez ended up with his face in hot pizza?
drjoek
02-03-2009, 01:16 PM
I would give credence to this post...IF YOU WEREN'T THE CALLER THAT STARTED THAT TIRADE!!!!
Fred did you read the post? I acknowledged my bad call attempt but if they had a call screener to screen out the bad or to coach caller quality the problem would be diminished. Blaming others for the quality of the product they put out is a cop out. If we suck so bad shut the phones off Stop blaming us.
Fred from Brooklyn
02-03-2009, 01:25 PM
Fred did you read the post? I acknowledged my bad call attempt but if they had a call scfeener to screen out the bad or to coach caller quality the problem would be diminished. Blaming others for the quality of the product they put out is a cop out. If we suck so bad shut the phones off Stop blaming us.
See I take the other side, if you know you suck...DON'T CALL.
The scfeener generally screens for subject matter and RadioShark. Your subject matter passed muster, you might have been noticed as a regular board poster and he deemed you not to be RadioShark...the rest is up to you my friend.
Fred from Brooklyn
02-03-2009, 01:27 PM
Isnt that what happened at the end of the slave bit and then Fez ended up with his face in hot pizza?
What is that in the lower left hand corner of your pic sir?
Don Stugots
02-03-2009, 01:27 PM
Isnt that what happened at the end of the slave bit and then Fez ended up with his face in hot pizza?
that is true. i still think that Dave writing them would be good.
All I'm saying is that I AGREE with bringing back instant feedback, but your reasons for the show to lose paltalk are a bit selfish. Why advocate losing another way for the fans to listen and enjoy the show?
"There's no Sonic burgers in Queens and they taunt me with there commercials so lets close the place down!"
Just appreciate and accept what the show is doing for the fans.
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying you can't have Paltalk, Instant Feedback, and IM. It's too much. Pick one. And since Paltalk severely limits the amount of people that can participate, I don't think it should be the one picked.
Don Stugots
02-03-2009, 02:15 PM
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying you can't have Paltalk, Instant Feedback, and IM. It's too much. Pick one. And since Paltalk severely limits the amount of people that can participate, I don't think it should be the one picked.
well, i am sure the paltalkers would disagree with you snob.
well, i am sure the paltalkers would disagree with you snob.
Haha!
You can't show me one Paltalker that doesn't have access to a computer.
I can show you thousands of computer users that don't have access to Paltalk though.
See?
Logic.
Pantera hates logic!
BlackSpider
02-03-2009, 02:18 PM
The show is looking for an executive producer.
Perhaps if you get the gig, you can have more of a say in the workings of the show...
The show is looking for an executive producer.
Perhaps if you get the gig, you can have more of a say in the workings of the show...
Like I said, I was just stating my opinion on how to bring back the fast pace of the old shows.
I don't think the show needs to be "fixed" but if the boys would like to see a return to the days when they were only on in NYC and the callers fueled the show, this is what I see as the best way to do it.
Basically, I'm saying that having Paltalk as the only means of communicating with the show is like saying only people who own cars are allowed to come to Ron and Fez events. Anyone who lives in the city and uses public transportation would be barred.
Why limit it and exclude a huge portion of the fan base?
Furtherman
02-03-2009, 02:45 PM
Yea, yea, we all know you have a big van. No need to rub it in!
Serpico1103
02-03-2009, 03:33 PM
I do think Paltalk takes away from the show. Because whenever they talk about it they keep it inside. Which is not how to appeal to the wider audience. All the paltalk fights and just the day to day interaction is always kept somewhat hidden. Either broadcast it all, or keep it off the air. It is wasted air time for the majority of listeners not on paltalk.
More Fez, more ESD, less of Ron.
DiabloSammich
02-03-2009, 03:35 PM
I think Ron should set up an in-studio taste test between a fine Don Rigo and Earl's dead grandmother's twat.
disneyspy
02-03-2009, 03:36 PM
I think Ron should set up an in-studio taste test between a fine Don Rigo and Earl's dead grandmother's twat.
thank you for the belly laugh :clap:bravo sir,bravo
Serpico1103
02-03-2009, 03:38 PM
I think Ron should set up an in-studio taste test between a fine Don Rigo and Earl's dead grandmother's twat.
An accidental admission?
underdog
02-03-2009, 03:44 PM
lleeder is great,but yesterday ALL the crappy callers(except lady trucker)had NE accents,i wish you people would listen as much as you profess to before making such stupid points.
i know im one of few dozen here that remember when they were syndicated only in the southeast(with a coupla texas markets)but quit tryin to play the blame game on callers outside of your area cuz they had great callers back in the day and they were more witty and on topic.this point is getting on my nerves,its a NATIONAL radio callin show,get that through your thick skulls
Why do you hate Nebraska so much?
You couldn't possibly mean New England. I mean, I would hope you'd realize that not everyone in New England has the same accent before making such stupid points.
PanterA
02-03-2009, 03:55 PM
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying you can't have Paltalk, Instant Feedback, and IM. It's too much. Pick one. And since Paltalk severely limits the amount of people that can participate, I don't think it should be the one picked.I dont see why you cant have all going at once?
Yet I think it would be a million times harder to go through 1000 different IM screens from all of North America, instead of just 1 screen of everyone talking.
Where's the logic in that?
Basically, I'm saying that having Paltalk as the only means of communicating with the show is like saying only people who own cars are allowed to come to Ron and Fez events. Anyone who lives in the city and uses public transportation would be barred.866-Ron-0-Fez
I dont want to sound like I'm harping on you in particular GVac, I just find that people against paltlak are silly.
jauble
02-03-2009, 03:57 PM
An accidental admission?
I think he knows what he is doing.
Boomer
02-03-2009, 04:00 PM
I think Ron should set up an in-studio taste test between a fine Don Rigo and Earl's dead grandmother's twat.
How long has she been dead? If it's under a decade her twat is probably still moister than a Don Rigo.
866-Ron-0-Fez
I dont want to sound like I'm harping on you in particular GVac, I just find that people against paltlak are silly.
You obviously didn't read (or forgot) my previous post where I said many people freeze up or are intimidated by the phone.
I get it, Bobby...you have Paltalk and love it. I'm happy for you. I'm happy for everyone that has it and loves it. I'm sure it's great. I don't want to break down your door and take it away from you. I love my guitars and don't want anyone taking them away either. But I don't think only guitar players should have access to the show, that's all I'm saying.
PanterA
02-03-2009, 04:17 PM
I get it, Bobby...you have Paltalk and love it. I'm happy for you. I'm happy for everyone that has it and loves it. I'm sure it's great. I don't want to break down your door and take it away from you. I love my guitars and don't want anyone taking them away either. But I don't think only guitar players should have access to the show, that's all I'm saying.But greg you DONT seem to get it. I work during show hours. I cant access pal talk cause I'm walking the streets like an idiot. I dont love paltalk, in fact I hate it. When I do use it, it freezes up my computer at times, the sound is terrible, and the studio cam is dark as hell. I ONLY use it when I'm home and the show is on. Thats it. I personally wish that the show would use AIM again, BUT I dont want them to lose pal talk. It's great for the fans and for the show. Ron seems to like to look at the pretty girls as a muse type thing, and if that helps him keep the show fun, on track, and funny, then I'm all for it.
Serpico1103
02-03-2009, 04:25 PM
But greg you DONT seem to get it. I work during show hours. I cant access pal talk cause I'm walking the streets like an idiot. I dont love paltalk, in fact I hate it. When I do use it, it freezes up my computer at times, the sound is terrible, and the studio cam is dark as hell. I ONLY use it when I'm home and the show is on. Thats it. I personally wish that the show would use AIM again, BUT I dont want them to lose pal talk. It's great for the fans and for the show. Ron seems to like to look at the pretty girls as a muse type thing, and if that helps him keep the show fun, on track, and funny, then I'm all for it.
I am not sure having a host look at pretty girls is considered good radio. Again, the problem is you have to make paltalk completely part of the show or limit it more. Otherwise, he is doing two shows, one for the paltalkers and one for everyone else.
When a hot girl is in studio you need to describe her, draw a picture for the audience. When Ron sees the girls on paltalk, he says, "ESD look at her." Yeah that's great radio.
CofyCrakCocaine
02-03-2009, 04:26 PM
See I take the other side, if you know you suck...DON'T CALL.
The scfeener generally screens for subject matter and RadioShark. Your subject matter passed muster, you might have been noticed as a regular board poster and he deemed you not to be RadioShark...the rest is up to you my friend.
See above for why I don't call the show either.
CofyCrakCocaine
02-03-2009, 04:30 PM
I am not sure having a host look at pretty girls is considered good radio. Again, the problem is you have to make paltalk completely part of the show or limit it more. Otherwise, he is doing two shows, one for the paltalkers and one for everyone else.
When a hot girl is in studio you need to describe her, draw a picture for the audience. When Ron sees the girls on paltalk, he says, "ESD look at her." Yeah that's great radio.
The WNEW days where girls would be in studio were alot more fun than hearing through a third-party that there may or may not have been some sort of vague action on a computer screen. That kind of interruption of flow is welcome. Y'know. If you're not MLC.
PanterA
02-03-2009, 04:40 PM
I am not sure having a host look at pretty girls is considered good radio. Again, the problem is you have to make paltalk completely part of the show or limit it more. Otherwise, he is doing two shows, one for the paltalkers and one for everyone else.
When a hot girl is in studio you need to describe her, draw a picture for the audience. When Ron sees the girls on paltalk, he says, "ESD look at her." Yeah that's great radio.muse, a source of inspiration to a poet or other writer, usually represented as a female deity.
Why do you need to describe the girl? They arent there for people to jerk off to.
Why not describe Dave and Fez every time they are in studio?
I've never heard Ron say "Hey Dave look at her..." Maybe he'll reference something someones doing on a cam once in a blue moon but he's not a dope about it.
I havent noticed them doing the show for the pal talkers unless they were using the cam or the after show meetings (which I'm sure they would LOVE to have on XM)
Serpico1103
02-03-2009, 04:47 PM
muse, a source of inspiration to a poet or other writer, usually represented as a female deity.
Why do you need to describe the girl? They arent there for people to jerk off to.
Why not describe Dave and Fez every time they are in studio?
I've never heard Ron say "Hey Dave look at her..." Maybe he'll reference something someones doing on a cam once in a blue moon but he's not a dope about it.
I havent noticed them doing the show for the pal talkers unless they were using the cam or the after show meetings (which I'm sure they would LOVE to have on XM)
Thanks for defining a four letter word. I didn't realize you delivered dictionaries too.
If a blue moon is every day, then yes, once a blue moon. We get what seems like daily updates on what HTG is eating alone. I don't care what he looks at, but it is my opinion that it slows down the show. Your opinion is that it helps the show.
Why describe something on the air? Hmmmm, its radio? Oh yeah, and I want to pull my pants down and jerk off.
PanterA
02-03-2009, 04:52 PM
We get what seems like daily updates on what HTG is eating alone.There's a description. But I dont understand why you like to jerk off to descriptions of what people are eating.
Serpico1103
02-03-2009, 04:55 PM
There's a description. But I dont understand why you like to jerk off to descriptions of what people are eating.
Don't judge me.
spainlinx0
02-03-2009, 06:46 PM
Hmphhh I still think Fez's "Chelsea Diaries" would make a great bit. I don't care if you fuckos ignored it. :down:
yojimbo7248
02-03-2009, 07:05 PM
Hmphhh I still think Fez's "Chelsea Diaries" would make a great bit. I don't care if you fuckos ignored it. :down:
I liked the "Chelsea Diaries" idea. Fez can keep his secret and we don't need the details of his gay sex but it wouldn't hurt for him to step up a bit.
Holy Shit. Dave talks about how he wacks off while Casey is in the doggy position. I almost get uncomfortable at how much I know about their sex life. He gives everything to the show. I love the guy and think he is fucking hilarious but I especially love how he will do anything for the Ron and Fez.
It wouldn't hurt Fez to do a bit more like "Chelsea Diaries". It might even do him some good by opening up a bit more.
I liked the "Chelsea Diaries" idea. Fez can keep his secret and we don't need the details of his gay sex but it wouldn't hurt for him to step up a bit.
Fez is gay???
Ewwww!!!!
CofyCrakCocaine
02-03-2009, 07:07 PM
Fez is gay???
Ewwww!!!!
Shirley Phelps Roper put it best that one time.
Manster72
02-03-2009, 07:11 PM
help the show? since black earl is gone i dare say the GOLDEN AGE of ron and fez is now. but an idea id float out there is have fez care for an egg like a high school project and see if he can keep the egg intact for a month caring for the gg on the tram and having him carry a stupid egg on the train or cab would be amusing
Manster72
02-03-2009, 07:13 PM
just hit me why not Ron and Fez Prom night. please can we end the night with pig's blood on daves head
jauble
02-03-2009, 07:14 PM
help the show? since black earl is gone i dare say the GOLDEN AGE of ron and fez is now. but an idea id float out there is have fez care for an egg like a high school project and see if he can keep the egg intact for a month caring for the gg on the tram and having him carry a stupid egg on the train or cab would be amusing
I dont know why, but the image of this actually happening really makes me laugh.
hammersavage
02-03-2009, 07:15 PM
just hit me why not Ron and Fez Prom night. please can we end the night with pig's blood on daves head
This made me laugh too. Not bad.
BlackSpider
02-03-2009, 07:15 PM
I dont know why, but the image of this actually happening really makes me laugh.
I guess that's where you and I differ...
Manster72
02-03-2009, 07:19 PM
cmon fez coming in with a fancy prom dress, sumting in the satin or shinny shoulder pads. he said once he never went to his prom
hammersavage
02-03-2009, 07:20 PM
Ron would never go inside. He'd be getting a chick pregnant in the backseat of his Caddy.
albo60s
02-03-2009, 07:35 PM
more tapdancing
jauble
02-03-2009, 07:37 PM
I guess that's where you and I differ...
I just picture fez talking about the egg the same way he talks about skippy the cat. I know its dumb, but I still laughed.
I just picture fez talking about the egg the same way he talks about skippy the cat. I know its dumb, but I still laughed.
Are you still doped up?
jauble
02-03-2009, 07:40 PM
Are you still doped up?
a little
CofyCrakCocaine
02-03-2009, 07:41 PM
I loved Manster's idea so much I made a thread about it. 'Course in hindsight, it's a stupid thread, and probably not such a good idea.
Glad to hear you're feeling better jaub.
a little
That explains it then.
And even after I lost 50 bucks betting on you in the death pool, I'm glad you're still alive.
jauble
02-03-2009, 07:46 PM
Thanks CCC and Gvac its good to be on the warm side of humanity still.
Golfman
02-04-2009, 03:54 AM
Ron = Radio Gold+Timing+Hero+Genius
We = Hayseeds, Rubes, Terrible Callers, Spokes in the Wheels
I say leave the ideas to the man that actually has some:)
helterskeletor
02-04-2009, 05:19 AM
Ron asked today that we, the fans, stop bitching about the show and start being helpful by coming up with ideas that can be used to make the show better. This is the thread for you to write your suggestions and ideas for the show.
Can you step up to the plate?
Or will you just start yet another "You guys are assholes because you won't tell us Fez's Secret" or "Dave sucks 'insert animals name here' balls" thread? Will you attempt to make the show better by coming up with something they can use to entertain the fans or just write a sarcastic comment that only you and 3 other shut-ins find funny?
Ronny dared you...can you deliver. :smoke:
I think what he meant was it would be nice if people called in and brought something to the show.
Don Stugots
02-04-2009, 05:35 AM
People bring him cigars all the time. That helps.
GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 01:56 PM
Ron = Radio Gold+Timing+Hero+Genius
We = Hayseeds, Rubes, Terrible Callers, Spokes in the Wheels
I say leave the ideas to the man that actually has some:)
yeah..when they were doing "quick imitations" today and most of the callers didn't get the bit and just said movie quotes in their normal voice. The listeners suck
Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 01:57 PM
Twitter seems to be a fantastic idea.
Mullenax
02-04-2009, 02:35 PM
yeah..when they were doing "quick imitations" today and most of the callers didn't get the bit and just said movie quotes in their normal voice. The listeners suck
I thought that the over-praising of various 10 second impressions was the bit.
Not that everyone is good at them.
Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 02:45 PM
yeah..when they were doing "quick imitations" today and most of the callers didn't get the bit and just said movie quotes in their normal voice. The listeners suck
Did Big A call in? He does the best impressions. I love his sprinkler and train sound effects.
yojimbo7248
02-04-2009, 02:47 PM
Did Big A call in? He does the best impressions. I love his sprinkler and train sound effects.
Is that a tugboat going by? no, it's Big AAAAAAAA.
weekapaugjz
02-04-2009, 02:48 PM
Did Big A call in? He does the best impressions. I love his sprinkler and train sound effects.
i prefer the tug boat.
hmm. maybe i should read all the posts first. damn you yojimbo.
GreatAmericanZero
02-04-2009, 02:50 PM
I thought that the over-praising of various 10 second impressions was the bit.
Not that everyone is good at them.
yeah, thats where the bit went to make it funny. But the original premise was really good short impressions, like dave's "last time on Lost". Or atleast really bad attempted impressions. But when people with southern accents call up and say "heres dante from clerks...'i wasn't even suppose to be here today'" and not change a thing about their voice, i was just like "wow...there are some stupid listeners". I thought the bit was hilarious though...R&F def played their part and stupid listeners are funny to goof on, but i think a lot of them were genuinely stupid
Boomer
02-04-2009, 03:38 PM
I think what he meant was it would be nice if people called in and brought something to the show.
Ya think?
Wow...do I feel stupid.
Boomer
02-04-2009, 03:40 PM
yeah, thats where the bit went to make it funny. But the original premise was really good short impressions, like dave's "last time on Lost". Or atleast really bad attempted impressions. But when people with southern accents call up and say "heres dante from clerks...'i wasn't even suppose to be here today'" and not change a thing about their voice, i was just like "wow...there are some stupid listeners". I thought the bit was hilarious though...R&F def played their part and stupid listeners are funny to goof on, but i think a lot of them were genuinely stupid
I was pissed I was at work during this bit. I wanted to call up and wait until Ronnie asked me 3 times if I was there then I would ask if I was on. You know...do an impression of a shitty radio call.
mudflap170
02-04-2009, 03:53 PM
I think Ron should talk more about when he was growing up. I really find those stories funny as hell, and relate to them in a way a lot of people can't. I always think real life is funnier than anything you can make up.
slames
02-04-2009, 03:57 PM
'ello! heres an idea
"Gay chicken with uncle Fez" Someone pukes or gets laid! Or both...
Serpico1103
02-04-2009, 04:06 PM
I think Ron should talk more about when he was growing up. I really find those stories funny as hell, and relate to them in a way a lot of people can't. I always think real life is funnier than anything you can make up.
Add that to my "24 Hours of Bennington" schedule. Childhood Development Hour with Ron.
My favorite was when he said he was giving his mother a hard time, and his Dad walked in and said, "What did you say to my wife?" Put Ronnie B in his place.
KojiClutch
02-04-2009, 06:13 PM
I think every day from now on, at least once a show Ron starts playing Neil Diamond so we can hear a daily Fez meltdown.
DrexlSpivey
02-04-2009, 06:14 PM
or... teenagers!!!:ohmy:
jauble
02-04-2009, 06:15 PM
I think every day from now on, at least once a show Ron starts playing Neil Diamond so we can hear a daily Fez meltdown.
I think he was trying to get away from that. But the fact that they could address it early and then fez got over it and even had fun with it shows some progress on his part. Fez is half back!
Hammond Eggars
02-04-2009, 10:15 PM
I think Ron should talk more about when he was growing up. I really find those stories funny as hell, and relate to them in a way a lot of people can't. I always think real life is funnier than anything you can make up.
When the idea of "Li'l Ronnie" cartoons came up I got inspired. (Sorry if I'm attaching this wrong, I can't figure this stuff out)
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marcpsych
02-05-2009, 05:37 PM
My idea for the show would be to have at least one show where it's mainly just Ron and Fez on mic and see how that goes. Make Fez step up, just like he does on O&A and at live gigs.
I have listened since WNEW and will always be a fan of both Ron and Fez and the show. However, with all due respect, I have been generally and increasingly disturbed at the overall direction of the show since at least mid-2006. I know that Fez needs to be the one to step up, but it seems that Ron and others have all but given up on Fez (in terms of on the air, I don't mean in general). It seems that Fez does step it up when he feels that he needs to - live appearances, Opie and Anthony Show, large audience in the studio, etc. So it can be done.
But it also needs to be nurtured by Fez and others. It seems like Fez is hiding, and others are OK with that. It is not good when the co-host of the show says maybe 100 words in an entire hour and goes minutes on end without speaking. Thankfully, this has been improving a little bit recently. And while I understand Fez's difficulties and hope he gets better, that doesn't mean that I have to make believe I enjoy the show when I don't or enjoy it as much as I used to.
A full-strength Fez is, in my opinion, easily the funniest and most entertaining guy on the radio. I hope that he someday feels confident enough again to let his real joy and free-wheeling on-air self shine through. And I really do miss the incomparable on-air chemistry between Ron and Fez, which has been virtually nonexistent for at least the past two years. Enough with all the people acting as buffers!! Let's hear Ron and Fez again!! I understand that others have always been involved, but they were used in the right places, and Ron and Fez were able to have actual conversations with each other that were funny and made sense. Also, just having various people talk incessantly in the studio doesn't mean that they're entertaining. And can Ron seem any less enthusiastic about talking with Fez on the rare occasions when they do have an actual conversation?
No, I am not a "hater." I am a long-time fan who feels bad about the direction of the show and the sadness and frustration which seem to permeate the show sometimes. If Fez and others could feel better, that would be most desirable. If they could do that and get the show back on track, that would be a nice bonus. I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just trying to tell the truth as I see it (just like a real supporter of a football team would if they are going through some difficulties), instead of making believe that everything is OK and that the show is as good as it ever was.
I'm sorry, but in my opinion anyone who thinks that the show was not better overall on WNEW or WJFK or even at the start of the current XM run is delusional or a cool-aid drinker or in denial. I still like the show and support it, but let's be real here. Listen to the archived segments and see what you think.
I know that this line of conversation is blasphemy to some on this board, but it has to be said, and I'm glad that more people are saying it as of late.
Also, I like Dave and think he has helped the show during hard times, but I also think that the show might be better in the long run if he were to step out for a while or have his own show (which he deserves, along with a hefty raise). I know that Fez's silence should not be blamed on Dave, but I also feel that the reality is that the less crutches around for Fez, the better overall.
Also, I agree with the sentiment of less paltalk talk - and I also support less messageboard talk. I love this community and being a member of it, as well as paltalk, but extended segments about the antics of and fights between obscure messageboard and paltalk members can be dull and painful.
My idea for the show would be to have at least one show where it's mainly just Ron and Fez on mic and see how that goes. Make Fez step up, just like he does on O&A and at live gigs.
I have listened since WNEW and will always be a fan of both Ron and Fez and the show. However, with all due respect, I have been generally and increasingly disturbed at the overall direction of the show since at least mid-2006. I know that Fez needs to be the one to step up, but it seems that Ron and others have all but given up on Fez (in terms of on the air, I don't mean in general). It seems that Fez does step it up when he feels that he needs to - live appearances, Opie and Anthony Show, large audience in the studio, etc. So it can be done.
But it also needs to be nurtured by Fez and others. It seems like Fez is hiding, and others are OK with that. It is not good when the co-host of the show says maybe 100 words in an entire hour and goes minutes on end without speaking. Thankfully, this has been improving a little bit recently. And while I understand Fez's difficulties and hope he gets better, that doesn't mean that I have to make believe I enjoy the show when I don't or enjoy it as much as I used to.
A full-strength Fez is, in my opinion, easily the funniest and most entertaining guy on the radio. I hope that he someday feels confident enough again to let his real joy and free-wheeling on-air self shine through. And I really do miss the incomparable on-air chemistry between Ron and Fez, which has been virtually nonexistent for at least the past two years. Enough with all the people acting as buffers!! Let's hear Ron and Fez again!! I understand that others have always been involved, but they were used in the right places, and Ron and Fez were able to have actual conversations with each other that were funny and made sense. Also, just having various people talk incessantly in the studio doesn't mean that they're entertaining. And can Ron seem any less enthusiastic about talking with Fez on the rare occasions when they do have an actual conversation?
No, I am not a "hater." I am a long-time fan who feels bad about the direction of the show and the sadness and frustration which seem to permeate the show sometimes. If Fez and others could feel better, that would be most desirable. If they could do that and get the show back on track, that would be a nice bonus. I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just trying to tell the truth as I see it (just like a real supporter of a football team would if they are going through some difficulties), instead of making believe that everything is OK and that the show is as good as it ever was.
I'm sorry, but in my opinion anyone who thinks that the show was not better overall on WNEW or WJFK or even at the start of the current XM run is delusional or a cool-aid drinker or in denial. I still like the show and support it, but let's be real here. Listen to the archived segments and see what you think.
I know that this line of conversation is blasphemy to some on this board, but it has to be said, and I'm glad that more people are saying it as of late.
Also, I like Dave and think he has helped the show during hard times, but I also think that the show might be better in the long run if he were to step out for a while or have his own show (which he deserves, along with a hefty raise). I know that Fez's silence should not be blamed on Dave, but I also feel that the reality is that the less crutches around for Fez, the better overall.
Also, I agree with the sentiment of less paltalk talk - and I also support less messageboard talk. I love this community and being a member of it, as well as paltalk, but extended segments about the antics of and fights between obscure messageboard and paltalk members can be dull and painful.
I like the cut of your jib.
Nice post.
slames
02-05-2009, 07:46 PM
I'm sorry, but in my opinion anyone who thinks that the show was not better overall on WNEW or WJFK or even at the start of the current XM run is delusional or a cool-aid drinker or in denial. I still like the show and support it, but let's be real here. Listen to the archived segments and see what you think.
I know that this line of conversation is blasphemy to some on this board, but it has to be said, and I'm glad that more people are saying it as of late.
I resent being called a delusional Kool-aid drinker because I enjoy a nice, chill, funny, show. Do I like it when Fez has a breakdown and it turns into a "lets help Fez" show? Hell no! But is that to be expected when someone raised in a strict, religious, household has to shame himself in front of his family (who he wants to love and accept him more than anything) just to have a shot at an open and honest relationship? YES!!! Live a lie and deny yourself love for decades until the stress LITERALLY breaks your heart and anyone would have a hard time giving 100% at any job.
All that being said I think Fez will regain whatever it is that he lost soon. But for now working as the uptight out of touch straight man to the comedic genius that is Ron works. And I agree that Dave deserves his own show. But for the time being he doesn't have a good partner. And I'm sure we'll look back fondly one day and say "I remember when Dave from the Dave and (whoever) show was on air with Ron from Ron and Fez.. Those were the days!" But until then I listen and laugh every day and enjoy the show in its current incarnation waiting for yet another metamorphosis.
West.Coast.Skippy
02-06-2009, 01:17 PM
my advice for ron: try to go three weeks without blocking, interrogating, correcting, or 'whats your pointing?' fez on air. ron demonstrates very keen professional coaching and intuition towards fez during the after-show meetings, so i know he has the knowledge and kindness to see the value in giving fez a grace period. i feel that ron hasn't let up on fez - on air - for more than a couple days at a time during the last 4 months.
jauble
02-06-2009, 01:28 PM
my advice for ron: try to go three weeks without blocking, interrogating, correcting, or 'whats your pointing?' fez on air. ron demonstrates very keen professional coaching and intuition towards fez during the after-show meetings, so i know he has the knowledge and kindness to see the value in giving fez a grace period. i feel that ron hasn't let up on fez - on air - for more than a couple days at a time during the last 4 months.
Are you suggesting that Ron cut him some slack?
West.Coast.Skippy
02-06-2009, 03:38 PM
Are you suggesting that Ron cut him some slack?
in a way, yeah. i know these two have a really close relationship, and there is a love between them. but i listen to the after show and hear two completely different people, and really, fez is better in many ways in the 'after show'. he is a lot more comfortable, and ron has said that to him directly. so i give ron credit for being more compassionate than almost anyone one would be in his situation. depression is confusing and dark for the person in it and his friends, too. yet ron has developed a kind of "bit" where fez will say something that falls flat, and ron will point this out in a very blunt, dry, way, that i do think has made fez more anxious. listen to them over time and it seems like fez has good cause to (as ron described it) 'tip toe' in to statements. of course i could be wrong.
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