View Full Version : Stop pretending you know another language at dinner please.
Bob Impact
02-02-2009, 06:12 PM
I was out to lunch recently with some folks from work at an Italian restaurant. One of the people at this lunch is one of those insufferable people who claims to speak a language when they totally don't. Long story short he orders "Zucca Raviolis" which were listed on the menu as Squash Ravioli and would be Ravioli di Zucca in Italian anyway. For dessert he orders "A Cannoli.' I see this more often at Italian restaurants than anywhere else, so I have to say to people who do this:
1) You sound like a Douche Bag.
2) If you insist on doing this, PLEASE learn the fucking difference between singular and plural words. CANNOLI is already plural. If you want ONE you want a CANNOLO. Ravioli is already plural, the singular form is Raviolo so stop saying "Raviolis."
:wallbash:
Does this bother anyone else?
Dude!
02-02-2009, 06:20 PM
no
SatCam
02-02-2009, 06:20 PM
Stop pretending you know another language at dinner please.
s'il vous plaît
underdog
02-02-2009, 06:23 PM
I had no idea about the cannoli thing.
When I go to dim sum, my friend orders in mandarin. But he actually knows mandarin.
~Katja~
02-02-2009, 06:27 PM
I was out to lunch recently with some folks from work at an Italian restaurant. One of the people at this lunch is one of those insufferable people who claims to speak a language when they totally don't. Long story short he orders "Zucca Raviolis" which were listed on the menu as Squash Ravioli and would be Ravioli di Zucca in Italian anyway. For dessert he orders "A Cannoli.' I see this more often at Italian restaurants than anywhere else, so I have to say to people who do this:
1) You sound like a Douche Bag.
2) If you insist on doing this, PLEASE learn the fucking difference between singular and plural words. CANNOLI is already plural. If you want ONE you want a CANNOLO. Ravioli is already plural, the singular form is Raviolo so stop saying "Raviolis."
:wallbash:
Does this bother anyone else?
maybe you should not dine at an American Italian Chain Restaurant.
I only expect perfect Italian in Italy.
Marc with a c
02-02-2009, 06:28 PM
when i saw the thread title i thought immediately of the fake italians and their "mootsarell" and "manigot" different than yours, but irritating.
KingGeno
02-02-2009, 06:29 PM
It's like people that think they sound italian by dropping the last few letter off words.
"That's some really great ice cre sund, howboudi??"
hedges
02-02-2009, 06:30 PM
I notice it mainly on the pronunciation of wines. Types of wines or vineyards.
Devo37
02-02-2009, 06:30 PM
i hate people who do this. it's normally american-italians who have never set foot in italy and can't speak a lick of italian, yet they order 'galamaaar' or talk about 'rigoth' cheese.
why do they only do it with food?!? there are other english words and names that they pronounce in 'american', yet when it comes to food, they're suddenly straight off the boat. it's so stupid!!!
Bob Impact
02-02-2009, 06:31 PM
maybe you should not dine at an American Italian Chain Restaurant.
I only expect perfect Italian in Italy.
Not a chain restaurant, a mom and pop place. That's kind of my point, the people who work there don't speak Italian and even if they did there's zero point in ordering in garbled Italian, especially if the menu is in English. I'm not talking about people who mispronouce "Zuppa di pesce" or use Cannoli because they don't speak Italian, I'm talking about people who intentionally try to look like they speak a language they don't.
Bob Impact
02-02-2009, 06:35 PM
when i saw the thread title i thought immediately of the fake italians and their "mootsarell" and "manigot" different than yours, but irritating.
It's like people that think they sound italian by dropping the last few letter off words.
"That's some really great ice cre sund, howboudi??"
Agreed, worst part of that is that is if you ask an Italian language professor they will tell you that "Every letter and sound is important and nothing should be dropped." I don't mean to come off as if I speak perfect Italian, I don't, in fact at this point I remember a few basics and that's it... I just think it's annoying to hear a language butchered.
Judge Smails
02-02-2009, 06:49 PM
gThis is a pet peave of mine for years. My parents are right off the boat Italian - so I think I was taught proper Italian. I've got a couple of friends whose grandparents or great-grandparents came over. They're like 3+ generation American but they think they're gonna lecture me on Italian.
For example I'll say manicotti (ma-knee-co-tee) and they'll laugh and say "Ha-ha 'manicotti' where'd you learn to speak Italian? It's pronounced monigut." I try to explain how Italian has a very simple pronunciation and for the most part you pronounce words exactly as they are spelled - no silent letters or special rules like English. But they won't hear it. Apparently, their mothers called it monigut and that's how it's pronounced.
Don't even get me started on them calling tomato sauce "gravy". I tell them that in my house we called it salsa and they laugh again and ask "What are you Mexican or something?"
EDIT: A lot of the points I made were already covered. I got sidetracked. I should have check the thread again before hitting SUBMIT.
GreatAmericanZero
02-02-2009, 06:52 PM
This is a pet peave of mine for years. My parents are right off the boat Italian - so I think I was taught proper Italian. I've got a couple of friends whose grandparents or great-grandparents came over. They're like 3+ generation American but they think they're gonna lecture me on Italian.
For example I'll say manicotti (ma-knee-co-tee) and they'll laugh and say "Ha-ha 'manicotti' where'd you learn to speak Italian? It's pronounced monigut." I try to explain how Italian has a very simple pronunciation and for the most part you pronounce words exactly as they are spelled - no silent letters or special rules like English. But they won't hear it. Apparently, their mothers called it monigut and that's how it's pronounced.
Don't even get me started on them calling tomato sauce "gravy". I tell them that in my house we called it salsa and they laugh again and ask "What are you Mexican or something?"
EDIT: A lot of the points I made were already covered. I got sidetracked. I should have check the thread again before hittin SUBMIT.
yeah, my mom says "Moo-za-rell" instead of Mozzerella. It drives me nuts
also, whats the deal with "Ricotta' cheese? I say "Ricotta" like an American, but i hear people say "Ricott" and then even "Rigutt" like it has a "g" in it. Its craziness
King Hippos Bandaid
02-02-2009, 06:54 PM
my borderline personality mess of a mom, speaks Spanish to the Bus Boys, the worst is that she says Hola but pronounces the H (Whola)
when we scream at her, she sites her college minor of Spanish allowing her to speak Spanish to the bus boys and gardeners
at age 10, a stupid fat fuck named hippo cried when my Dad wanted to divorce my mom, my bad
Judge Smails
02-02-2009, 06:57 PM
yeah, my mom says "Moo-za-rell" instead of Mozzerella. It drives me nuts
also, whats the deal with "Ricotta' cheese? I say "Ricotta" like an American, but i hear people say "Ricott" and then even "Rigutt" like it has a "g" in it. Its craziness
Quick Italian lesson: if it's spelled "ricotta" that's how you pronounce it = ree-co-ta. Don't drop any letters in your pronunciation. These fucks think that they're showing everyone that they're real Italians by saying "Rigutt" but they're actually doing the opposite.
EDIT: didn't mean to call your mom a fuck . I was talking about my friends.
I agree that most people murder the language, but don't forget there are many different dialects of Italian, and Sicilian is a completely different language as well.
What you get from a lot of Americans is an amalgam of all of these different tongues.
IamFogHat
02-02-2009, 07:11 PM
Does this bother anyone else?
No, and you're a maniac.
west milly Tom
02-02-2009, 07:15 PM
Eckh. Meh, and so fourth.
Judge Smails
02-02-2009, 07:17 PM
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sailor
02-02-2009, 07:20 PM
i hate that everyone pronounces bruschetta wrong (it would be broo-shet-a only if there was no h) and will look at you crazy if you don't. and it's not "fa-zhul"
ecobag2
02-02-2009, 07:25 PM
i hate that everyone pronounces bruschetta wrong (it would be broo-shet-a only if there was no h) and will look at you crazy if you don't. and it's not "fa-zhul"
Funny you mention this... then it's "broo-shet"? I was sitting next to a native Japanese helping her order and found I was wondering about that.
I remember a real LI Italian kid behind me giving me shit for saying "manicotti" in college once. Pretty funny.
What the fuck do I know? We boiled everything in a pot.
ecobag2
02-02-2009, 07:26 PM
Sometimes I'll just bury French words in my sinuses for fun... pretending I know the real pronunciation. People I'm around most of the time never notice really... my sig pic is more truth than anyone knows.
sailor
02-02-2009, 07:37 PM
Funny you mention this... then it's "broo-shet"? I was sitting next to a native Japanese helping her order and found I was wondering about that.
I remember a real LI Italian kid behind me giving me shit for saying "manicotti" in college once. Pretty funny.
What the fuck do I know? We boiled everything in a pot.
broo-sket-a like a c sound, not a sh sound.
ecobag2
02-02-2009, 07:38 PM
broo-sket-a like a c sound, not a sh sound.
ooh. way off.
PapaBear
02-02-2009, 08:52 PM
And stop saying "with au jus juice"! That goes for the idiots who make up the menus, too.
Dude!
02-02-2009, 08:53 PM
there is a small restaurant near where i live
that lists on its menu:
soup of the jour
TooLowBrow
02-02-2009, 08:58 PM
today i saw that the soup 'du jour' at stop and shop was minestrone
fancy
keithy_19
02-02-2009, 09:34 PM
I was out to lunch recently with some folks from work at an Italian restaurant. One of the people at this lunch is one of those insufferable people who claims to speak a language when they totally don't. Long story short he orders "Zucca Raviolis" which were listed on the menu as Squash Ravioli and would be Ravioli di Zucca in Italian anyway. For dessert he orders "A Cannoli.' I see this more often at Italian restaurants than anywhere else, so I have to say to people who do this:
1) You sound like a Douche Bag.
2) If you insist on doing this, PLEASE learn the fucking difference between singular and plural words. CANNOLI is already plural. If you want ONE you want a CANNOLO. Ravioli is already plural, the singular form is Raviolo so stop saying "Raviolis."
:wallbash:
Does this bother anyone else?
http://toddzilla.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/giada_de_laurentiis_02.jpg
led37zep
02-02-2009, 09:44 PM
Der Hünd ist Weiß
NickyL0885
02-02-2009, 09:45 PM
ooh. way off.
Alton Brown says with the H sound. Giada says it with the K sound. Depends who ya believe. I lean toward Giada since shes italian and speaks the language.
ecobag2
02-02-2009, 09:58 PM
Alton Brown says with the H sound. Giada says it with the K sound. Depends who ya believe. I lean toward Giada since shes italian and speaks the language.
I lean toward Sailor - he's fancy.
Contra
02-02-2009, 11:21 PM
I want to lean into Giada, but that's a different story.
Aqualad
02-03-2009, 01:08 AM
i hate people who do this. it's normally american-italians who have never set foot in italy and can't speak a lick of italian, yet they order 'galamaaar' or talk about 'rigoth' cheese.
why do they only do it with food?!? there are other english words and names that they pronounce in 'american', yet when it comes to food, they're suddenly straight off the boat. it's so stupid!!!
That. drives. me. crazy.
Ever notice they say their "italian" food words louder than everything else in the sentence? "Siddown, have some RIGOTE." Yuck.
I hate when people forget the "i" in spaghetti
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Also stop using chopsticks you pretentious douche
yojimbo7248
02-03-2009, 03:09 AM
My British friends annoying with this. They all learned how to speak French when they were kids so they can pronounce the French food and wine correctly. They love to mock Americans for butchering the French pronunciation but they then will completely fuck up Chinese or Vietnamese food names.
sailor
02-03-2009, 03:16 AM
And stop saying "with au jus juice"! That goes for the idiots who make up the menus, too.
salsa sauce as well.
on the other hand, i don't care if it should be pronounced "hee-row" i will only pronounce gyro the way it's spelled.
ChrisBrown
02-03-2009, 03:26 AM
we all speak Americanized versions of foreign words and it is no big deal. You are a douche if you think you are better than anyone else for pronouncing a
a foreign name correctly. I don't, however, think it's pretentious for non-Asians to use chopsticks as someone wrote earlier. Jeez, none of this is a big deal. If you can say the Italian food name correctly or can use chopsticks, great. If no, no worries.
biggestmexi
02-03-2009, 03:32 AM
I had no idea about the cannoli thing.
When I go to dim sum, my friend orders in mandarin. But he actually knows mandarin.
Look i'm posting in mandarin. Does this make me cool. I know two languages.
:tongue:
foodcourtdruide
02-03-2009, 03:39 AM
i hate people who do this. it's normally american-italians who have never set foot in italy and can't speak a lick of italian, yet they order 'galamaaar' or talk about 'rigoth' cheese.
why do they only do it with food?!? there are other english words and names that they pronounce in 'american', yet when it comes to food, they're suddenly straight off the boat. it's so stupid!!!
I think this is a very brooklyn and long island american-italian thing. I grew up in queens and never heard someone say "calamaaaa" until I started dating a half italian girl in brooklyn.
underdog
02-03-2009, 03:45 AM
Also stop using chopsticks you pretentious douche
What if you're eating at a place that only puts chop sticks on the table?
sailor
02-03-2009, 03:47 AM
What if you're eating at a place that only puts chop sticks on the table?
yeah, if i get sushi i'm not gonna ask them for a knife and fork.
and i also thought it was very silly every time spanish tv would say "jorge bush"
GreatAmericanZero
02-03-2009, 03:59 AM
I hate when people forget the "i" in spaghetti
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oh man...i love Spaghett!
biggestmexi
02-03-2009, 04:18 AM
oh man...i love Spaghett!
I usually call is Kpasghettit.
The last t is silent though as well as the K.
but that the way i say it.
yojimbo7248
02-03-2009, 04:27 AM
I usually call is Kpasghettit.
The last t is silent though as well as the K.
but that the way i say it.
:lol:
Judge Smails
02-03-2009, 05:31 AM
we all speak Americanized versions of foreign words and it is no big deal. You are a douche if you think you are better than anyone else for pronouncing a
a foreign name correctly. I don't, however, think it's pretentious for non-Asians to use chopsticks as someone wrote earlier. Jeez, none of this is a big deal. If you can say the Italian food name correctly or can use chopsticks, great. If no, no worries.
I'm not saying that I'm better than anyone else. My problem is with the douchebags I deal with who mispronounce the words and then make fun of me for saying them correctly (incorrectly in their Jersey-gabogool-Italian-wannabe-eyes).
nate1000
02-03-2009, 05:33 AM
How do you pronounce greasy deigo scumbag in Italian?
Kublakhan61
02-03-2009, 05:50 AM
I was out to lunch recently with some folks from work at an Italian restaurant. One of the people at this lunch is one of those insufferable people who claims to speak a language when they totally don't. Long story short he orders "Zucca Raviolis" which were listed on the menu as Squash Ravioli and would be Ravioli di Zucca in Italian anyway. For dessert he orders "A Cannoli.' I see this more often at Italian restaurants than anywhere else, so I have to say to people who do this:
1) You sound like a Douche Bag.
2) If you insist on doing this, PLEASE learn the fucking difference between singular and plural words. CANNOLI is already plural. If you want ONE you want a CANNOLO. Ravioli is already plural, the singular form is Raviolo so stop saying "Raviolis."
:wallbash:
Does this bother anyone else?
Be less angry. You'll live longer.
Also stop using chopsticks you pretentious douche
I live in Japan. If I don't use chopstick I don't look as much a pretentious douche as I look like a dolt.
Thebazile78
02-03-2009, 05:53 AM
My Chinese roommates taught me how to use chopsticks when I was a freshman in college and my Korean roommate sophomore year said I used them like I'd been using them my entire life.
I took that as a compliment.
Besides, using chopsticks is actually fun.
Judge Smails
02-03-2009, 05:57 AM
How do you pronounce greasy deigo scumbag in Italian?
Koo-Me-Ah
Furtherman
02-03-2009, 06:42 AM
This thread cracks me up because it reminds me of my Dad. When we go out to dinner he'll pretend to speak French to a waitress. It's nonsense with a French accent.
Sometimes the girl laughs. Sometimes the girl doesn't laugh, and those are the times when we all laugh.
~Katja~
02-03-2009, 06:44 AM
Der Hünd ist Weiß
is that Swedish? what's a Hünd???
I was once called out by a 7 year old kid when I was an auPair when I used the British pronunciation of the word "herb". I told him to sit back and study languages and then come back to me and compare notes :)
This thread cracks me up because it reminds me of my Dad. When we go out to dinner he'll pretend to speak French to a waitress. It's nonsense with a French accent.
Sometimes the girl laughs. Sometimes the girl doesn't laugh, and those are the times when we all laugh.
"Honh honh honh HONH"
http://download.lardlad.com/framegrabs/5F02/027.jpg
skyscraper
02-03-2009, 06:48 AM
It's nonsense with a French accent.
http://www.figarospeech.com/storage/monty.jpg
midwestjeff
02-03-2009, 06:52 AM
This thread gave me deja vu.
But my answer is no it doesn't bother me because I don't dine with shitfaces.
yojimbo7248
02-03-2009, 07:00 AM
My Chinese roommates taught me how to use chopsticks when I was a freshman in college and my Korean roommate sophomore year said I used them like I'd been using them my entire life.
I took that as a compliment.
Besides, using chopsticks is actually fun.
there is a lot of food that is just easier to eat with chopsticks. sushi, for example. why use a fork?
Thebazile78
02-03-2009, 07:03 AM
there is a lot of food that is just easier to eat with chopsticks. sushi, for example. why use a fork?
Isn't sushi actually finger food, though?
yojimbo7248
02-03-2009, 07:07 AM
I'm not saying that I'm better than anyone else. My problem is with the douchebags I deal with who mispronounce the words and then make fun of me for saying them correctly (incorrectly in their Jersey-gabogool-Italian-wannabe-eyes).
I had someone correct my pronunciation of Sunzi once. I was saying it correctly and he wasn't. He had studied the Art of War and considered himself an expert even though he couldn't speak a word of Chinese. Douches that put you down for saying something incorrectly are annoying but it is especially a pain in the ass when they are wrong.
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