100k a Yr in NYC Barely middle class

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wow what a shocker!!!!!! What do you expect when a 800 sq ft Co Op starts off at about $500 grand

http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/02/05/2009-02-05_nyc_so_costly_you_need_to_earn_six_figur.html

[Yuppie_Scum]

:surrender:

Personally, it's getting harder and harder to justify staying in the city when I could have a much better standard of living somewhere else. It just sucks when you pay a fortune for a rental and you have friends who make less and are buying houses, have multiple cars, less stress, et cetera et cetera et cetera.

[epo]

I understand the blanket whining, but honestly companies in NYC also pay more for the same level of human capital that they would in other cities.

Should as the article talking about $60K in Manhattan being like $23K in Atlanta. Well...look at the costs associated with the city AND the level of pay for similar jobs. They generally do line up.

[Yuppie_Scum]

EPO, in my field you are absolutely 100% wrong.

Attorneys with the same level of experience as me at similarly sized firms make EXACTLY the same as me in Boston, DC, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, SF, LA and Charlotte (yes, Charlotte, NC) and only about 5-10% less in Philly and Chicago.

[epo]

EPO, in my field you are absolutely 100% wrong.

Attorneys with the same level of experience as me at similarly sized firms make EXACTLY the same as me in Boston, DC, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, SF, LA and Charlotte (yes, Charlotte, NC) and only about 5-10% less in Philly and Chicago.

Then you have to make a decision about where you employ your human capital.

[Serpico1103]

I understand the blanket whining, but honestly companies in NYC also pay more for the same level of human capital that they would in other cities.

Should as the article talking about $60K in Manhattan being like $23K in Atlanta. Well...look at the costs associated with the city AND the level of pay for similar jobs. They generally do line up.

Companies do pay more, but not nearly enough to make up for that gap. NYC still has the most opportunities, but if you can find a job, and keep it, somewhere else you will be much more comfortable.

[Yuppie_Scum]

Then you have to make a decision about where you employ your human capital.

Which was the purpose of my original post.

[KingModem]

I hear North Dakota is nice this time of year; you could have a prosperous career as a DUI attorney, and shell out around 700 dollars a month for a large 3 bedroom home with 2 car garage.

[SP1!]

Please no more of you move down to the south, its tiring hearing about how great the north is while you are living and working down here.

[K.C.]

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[Puggle_kicker]

Companies do pay more, but not nearly enough to make up for that gap. NYC still has the most opportunities, but if you can find a job, and keep it, somewhere else you will be much more comfortable.

the struggle is the same everywhere.

dont be fooled into thinking that its so much harder in NYC. you will make much less money anywhere else.

[Leticia]

This is why we moved here. I've been used to but hating how expensive it is in NY. And my commutes where always at least 45 minutes long. My shortest were 25 minutes. I'm so glad to be out of that. Anywhere will cost money but at least it's not NY. Where no matter how hard you try, you just aren't making enough money there.

[Gvac]

This is why we moved here. I've been used to but hating how expensive it is in NY. And my commutes where always at least 45 minutes long. My shortest were 25 minutes. I'm so glad to be out of that. Anywhere will cost money but at least it's not NY. Where no matter how hard you try, you just aren't making enough money there.

Amen. It's the main reason I'm relocating to Tennessee later this year.

I love living here but it's becoming impossible if you don't make half a million dollars a year.

My friend down in Tennessee just bought a 4 bedrooom, 4 bathroom house for $175,000 and his annual property taxes are seven hundred dollars.

You pay more than that a month here, and that house would cost over half a mil.

I know you make less money elsewhere, but it's just not proportionate.

[FezsAssistant]

I guess that makes me 'poor'. Beyond poor.

[A.J.]

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It worked for Biden.

[K.C.]

It worked for Biden.

Fuckin' A.

And I can buy as much useless shit as I want and never pay a dime of sales tax.

[Serpico1103]

the struggle is the same everywhere.

dont be fooled into thinking that its so much harder in NYC. you will make much less money anywhere else.

I know it is not easy every where else. But, I think the difficult part of other places is finding a good job. Once you have a good job, your pay allows you to live a nice lifestyle.
In NYC while jobs are usually plentiful, you are usually struggling even on what is considered a middle or upper middle class salary.
My company, global corporation, gives us more pay for working in NYC, 20 dollars more a week. I make twice that in an hour. So, in the same company, outside of NYC I could live like a king. Unfortunately, there are no positions for me to transfer to. But, I wouldn't leave NYC to look for work.

[A.J.]

Fuckin' A.

And I can buy as much useless shit as I want and never pay a dime of sales tax.

AAAAAMTRAK!

[HBox]

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Hey look, I'm in.......... Delaware.