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longshot
02-10-2009, 11:36 AM
That was great today when Jimmy kicked Al fucking Rokers teeth in. That fat bastard could'nt get out of there fast enough. I guess promoting all the shows he's involved in wasn't so important after all. Hooray to Jimmy and to Ron and Fez for getting it done.:clap:
KingGeno
02-10-2009, 11:44 AM
Sorry
ChrisTheCop
02-10-2009, 11:46 AM
Someone needs to get a hold of this prick's junket schedule,
and just ask the same questions of him.
DOHO@HOME
02-10-2009, 11:49 AM
you could hear Al knowing he was in for a talking to, he kept trying to be funny with Jimmy and Jimmy wasn't having it not for one minute.:lol:
That was fun just wish Jimmy wasn't on his cel and maybe in with Ron & Fez for some after interview chat.
skyscraper
02-10-2009, 11:54 AM
That was great today when Jimmy kicked Al fucking Rokers teeth in. That fat bastard could'nt get out of there fast enough. I guess promoting all the shows he's involved in wasn't so important after all. Hooray to Jimmy and to Ron and Fez for getting it done.:clap:
get in me belly Jimmy Norton!
http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/uploads/forums/fat-bastard.jpg
ToiletCrusher
02-10-2009, 11:55 AM
I do say that it was a good showing by Jim Norton!
boobieman
02-10-2009, 12:00 PM
Oh how great it would of been if big fat Al was in studio. Overall very good. When Ron announced that Big fat Al was going to be on, I was just hoping that Jimmy would be on.
Fuck that big fat fuck....hack that planet head hump.
SEYEYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYEEEEEEEYAYAYAYAYAYAYSSSEEEEE
MacVittie
02-10-2009, 12:20 PM
Haven't heard the show yet today... spoilers.
Eh well, something good to look forward to.
kdubya
02-10-2009, 12:26 PM
I like when Al was tryng to get holier than though when he though Jimmy was driving and talking on the phone, such a phony
jauble
02-10-2009, 01:02 PM
I also really enjoyed the call.
KingModem
02-10-2009, 01:15 PM
It stunk, and I didn't like it.
Hottub
02-10-2009, 01:24 PM
It was fairly obvious that Mr. Roker wanted no part of the discussion. He just kept playing off Jimmy's statements, then finally gave up.
"Did you read the blog? Did you read the blog?" Then he simply bailed out. Hung up because the interview was not going to his liking. (ie a plug a thon)
It would have gone better, I think, if Jim could have been in the studio for the call, and not on a crappy iPhone.
Even better if Roker were there live, and Jim busted into the studio.
No, it was not the best call, but at least he ruffled Al's fat feathers.
Get 'em next time Jim.
GreatAmericanZero
02-10-2009, 01:28 PM
It was great. Roker knew exactly who jim norton was
it was funny and great cringe radio, and it fit in nicely with the storyline of "Fez is a bad booker". Seriously, who would care about what shitty project Al Rocker is involved with now
ToiletCrusher
02-10-2009, 01:33 PM
Storyline? You mean that entire thing is a sham?
lleeder
02-10-2009, 01:34 PM
Jim was great but the best part was Ron. "I'm not gonna plug his stuff if he doesn't want to stick around to"(paraphrased)
ThisGuyIsIvan
02-10-2009, 01:53 PM
pardon my language, but al roker stinks
KojiClutch
02-10-2009, 03:11 PM
pardon my language, but al roker stinksWow, settle down dude.
I had just pulled up to a customer's shop when Jimmy called in so I missed the entire exchange.
If anyone would be kind enough to provide some audio I'd be eternally grateful.
~Katja~
02-10-2009, 03:15 PM
I had just pulled up to a customer's shop when Jimmy called in so I missed the entire exchange.
If anyone would be kind enough to provide some audio I'd be eternally grateful.
not sure where it is at but 2 people posted it on hearustalk... I thin ANC had it
Lady Resin
02-10-2009, 03:19 PM
I had just pulled up to a customer's shop when Jimmy called in so I missed the entire exchange.
If anyone would be kind enough to provide some audio I'd be eternally grateful.
me too
disneyspy
02-10-2009, 03:20 PM
hahahaha crank poster crank poster
Sudsy Mug Saloon
02-10-2009, 03:36 PM
Too bad Jimmy was in the massage parlor, that it was little rough hearing him. Wish he was in studio for it. Still classic, I thought that is what was up when Ronnie B yesterday told Fez his guest was better, Jimmy Norton.
Best was Fez still plugging away after he hung up and Mr B saying if he can't do it forget it
Ramooone
02-10-2009, 04:23 PM
I had just pulled up to a customer's shop when Jimmy called in so I missed the entire exchange.
If anyone would be kind enough to provide some audio I'd be eternally grateful.
Here ya go: http://www.zshare.net/audio/554131158c3f3e61/
Eternally, eh? Nice. This audio made me very happy. I hate this fat fuck. And I totally agree with GAZ. Roker knew exactly who Jimmy was as soon as he was introduced. And Jimmy showed what a complete douchebag Roker is. I hope someone sends the audio to Imus.
Hottub
02-10-2009, 04:31 PM
Raamone is gonna be pissed.
jauble
02-10-2009, 04:33 PM
Raamone is gonna be pissed.
well some one should direct him to the name ripoff thread.
Tax_Kuntz
02-10-2009, 05:07 PM
I had just pulled up to a customer's shop when Jimmy called in so I missed the entire exchange.
If anyone would be kind enough to provide some audio I'd be eternally grateful.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/554131158c3f3e61/
edit: oops, someone beat me to it
cigarsandscotch
02-10-2009, 05:28 PM
Roker came off as a huge coward.
http://www.hasbro.com/playskool/images/mrpotatohead_body_graphic1.png
Fred from Brooklyn
02-10-2009, 05:45 PM
Looks like Al ran into Monster Rain, a High Pressure system that came in from the North.
bimmle_420
02-10-2009, 05:57 PM
i heard a rumor that someone wanted the replay edited without the al and jimmy incident
Friday
02-10-2009, 05:59 PM
jimmy could never be my hero because he is a pet hater.
and he did his part, but let's not give him all the credit.
Ron did a great job as usual. Always the consummate professional.
Foster
02-10-2009, 06:07 PM
jimmy could never be my hero because he is a pet hater[/COLOR].
and he did his part, but let's not give him all the credit.
Ron did a great job as usual. Always the consummate professional.
the hating animals thing is just a bit, he's always talking about how much he loves Bob Kelly's dogs.
jimmy could never be my hero because he is a pet hater.
and he did his part, but let's not give him all the credit.
Ron did a great job as usual. Always the consummate professional.
I think its all an act
That zshare site sucks, it went to an ad in the middle of the clip, suckity suck suck
CofyCrakCocaine
02-10-2009, 06:11 PM
jimmy could never be my hero because he is a pet hater.
and he did his part, but let's not give him all the credit.
Ron did a great job as usual. Always the consummate professional.
He is selective about which animals he bashes.
Read between the lines, you'll realize he actually is for animal rights. Gets furious when there's story of animal abuse. Has argued about it before.
disneyspy
02-10-2009, 06:12 PM
if i traveled as much as he does i couldnt have pets
Philly Franko
02-10-2009, 06:18 PM
If Fat Al Rokers Head gets any Bigger,the Sun will start to Orbit his Massive Head. Al Joker is a Moron and a Hippocrit....What a D Bag...Lets get a Petition to get him off the Air....NO ONE LIkes him...Phony Al Roker Stinks and is a Pedophile...check his home Computers Hard Drive...7 to 9 yr old kids are on Rokers History. Gastric Bypass and he is still getting Bigger..the Blob who ate NYC.......Little Jimmy RULES !!!
GreatAmericanZero
02-10-2009, 06:20 PM
jimmy could never be my hero because he is a pet hater.
and he did his part, but let's not give him all the credit.
Ron did a great job as usual. Always the consummate professional.
When Jim is being sincere, he talks about how he agrees with PETA a lot, doesn't eat veal and is disgusted by anyone who would wear fur
STC-Dub
02-10-2009, 06:23 PM
I loved Ron's comment that he liked the other side whyen Roker mention the DEA. Didn't the same thing happen to big Al on O&A?
CofyCrakCocaine
02-10-2009, 06:27 PM
Getting back on topic...
This does not at all make me 'admire' or 'respect' Jim and Ron more.
1) It is easy to be tough with a guy on the phone. Just like it is easy to be nasty to someone here. That doesn't require any real balls. Or talent.
2) Al Roker isn't exactly what I would consider a great intellectual debater. He's also a great big fat person (formerly?) who looks like a jolly potatohead. As such, going after him does not seem to me challenging, edgy, super-duper, or zany in the slightest. Justin Barta was a harder target than this fatman. And at least he was in the studio.
Obviously, most people do not agree with me, and I clearly don't give half a shit. See ya later, Kool-aid drinkers
Slumbag
02-10-2009, 06:44 PM
2) Al Roker isn't exactly what I would consider a great intellectual debater. He's also a great big fat person (formerly?) who looks like a jolly potatohead. As such, going after him does not seem to me challenging, edgy, super-duper, or zany in the slightest.
This is EXACTLY why Norton started to go after him.
He was blogging about how his POV apparently mattered to some people, when in fact, he's just a news guy. I think the better word is "News Personality", and now he needs to stick by what he said.
And enough with the KoolAid drinker shit, man. People are allowed to enjoy things that you don't.
underdog
02-10-2009, 08:14 PM
Kool-aid drinkers
Can you fucking non-brain users ever stop using "kool-aid" as a fucking crutch?! Jesus fucking christ.
Just because someone agrees with someone on the radio doesn't mean they're a fucking kool-aid drinker.
Reynolds
02-10-2009, 08:19 PM
http://www.thedrastics.com/blog/blog48.jpg
hammersavage
02-10-2009, 08:20 PM
1) It is easy to be tough with a guy on the phone. Just like it is easy to be nasty to someone here. That doesn't require any real balls. Or talent.
Shut up you fucking idiot. You make no sense.
Wow, it is easy. :bye:
And I actually love Kool-Aid so when someone calls me that, its accurate.
Knowledged_one
02-10-2009, 08:23 PM
Shut up you fucking idiot. You make no sense.
Wow, it is easy. :bye:
And I actually love Kool-Aid so when someone calls me that, its accurate.
hi-c drinker
hammersavage
02-10-2009, 08:23 PM
More like d-sipper.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 08:28 PM
So, without listening to call... Jimmy called in to bash Roker over the Imus thing?
Wow. way to hold a grudge. Especially since Imus got paid from CBS and is working again.
Totally professional. Totally awesome. and that's with "sarcasm".
Slumbag
02-10-2009, 08:29 PM
So, without listening to call... Jimmy called in to bash Roker over the Imus thing?
Wow. way to hold a grudge. Especially since Imus got paid from CBS and is working again.
Totally professional. Totally awesome. and that's with "sarcasm".
Who gives a fuck about professionalism?
It was funny.
hammersavage
02-10-2009, 08:30 PM
Who gives a fuck about professionalism?
It was funny.
I don't know dude. I really wanted to hear what Al Roker had to say and Jimmy ruined it. and that's with "sarcasm".
Roker needs to be shit on, he got no blow back from a shitty stance, fuck him and his hurt rolls of fat.
Chimee
02-10-2009, 08:32 PM
So, without listening to call... Jimmy called in to bash Roker over the Imus thing?
Wow. way to hold a grudge. Especially since Imus got paid from CBS and is working again.
Totally professional. Totally awesome. and that's with "sarcasm".
You gotta put that shit in parentheses so people know.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 08:35 PM
Who gives a fuck about professionalism?
It was funny.
Not a big fan of cringe radio. Especially with Jimmy going off on statements said in the heat of the moment almost two fucking years ago.
Besides, Roker was on Stern this morning and it was actually a pretty good interview, not the "plug fest" that people are implying. If I had some asshole haranguing me about comments from 2 years ago, I'd hang up too.
Hey Jimmy: You work for CBS Radio. Tony Page on WFAN, your sister station, went OFF on Imus for a few hours during his show when this whole mess was going down. Why don't you fucking call in to his show? Oh wait, he works for CBS. That would be bad.
jauble
02-10-2009, 08:36 PM
I also think that ron wasn't into interviewing him and thats why he had jim call. They obviously knew what was going to happen or they wouldn't have taken the call.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 08:39 PM
I also think that ron wasn't into interviewing him and thats why he had jim call. They obviously knew what was going to happen or they wouldn't have taken the call.
That too. Very machievellian/opieanthonian of Ron.
Which is weird... like I said, I listened to Roker on Stern earlier today and it was actually a pretty good listen. I wonder why Ron wasn't into it.
Chimee
02-10-2009, 08:39 PM
I think they knew from the start where that was going to go. If not, Ron wouldn't have been mentioning Jimmy whenever Fez mentioned the Roker interview.
Slumbag
02-10-2009, 08:40 PM
I wonder why Ron wasn't into it.
Because it was a weather man plugging a TV show.
Chimee
02-10-2009, 08:40 PM
That too. Very machievellian/opieanthonian of Ron.
Which is weird... like I said, I listened to Roker on Stern earlier today and it was actually a pretty good listen. I wonder why Ron wasn't into it.
A weatherman wants to talk to you about putting out a show about the DEA, he is not involved in the filming of it in any way, but he's the face of it. How excited could anyone be?
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 08:42 PM
Because it was a weather man plugging a TV show.
stop. Every single person who comes into the studio usually has something to plug SIT THE FUCK DOWN CHRIS I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU and just because it's Roker doesn't make him more or less or an interesting guest. I'd rather listen to Roker than a German director I don't know anything about or something else.
jauble
02-10-2009, 08:43 PM
Its been said before but when Ron said he usually roots for the other side (as opposed to the dea) I was laughing, roker was blathering on about dick clark and pitching shows. He wasn't a good fit on the show.
Slumbag
02-10-2009, 08:44 PM
I'd rather listen to Roker than a German director I don't know anything about or something else.
That sucks.
I would rather listen to any member of this board get interviewed than Al Roker.
He's a WEATHER MAN for Christ's sake. He reads the weather on a TV show. I'm not sure he has ever had an interesting thought.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 08:45 PM
A weatherman wants to talk to you about putting out a show about the DEA, he is not involved in the filming of it in any way, but he's the face of it. How excited could anyone be?
The plug is just a part of it. Shit, Howard was goofing on it, because Al actually is a producer of a shitload of shows. He was saying how he should combine DEA and some of the BBQ shows he does. Funnier than it sounds here, you had to listen to it.
Again, how is Roker being there any different than the unit photographer of Watchmen? he takes pictures. Oooh. OK....
Friday
02-10-2009, 08:45 PM
Its been said before but when Ron said he usually roots for the other side (as opposed to the dea) I was laughing, roker was blathering on about dick clark and pitching shows. He wasn't a good fit on the show.
that was pretty hilarious....
Al Roker is a daytime weather boy... he is a cheeseball. and proud of it.
which is fine... but it's terribly hard to take him seriously.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 08:46 PM
That sucks.
I would rather listen to any member of this board get interviewed than Al Roker.
He's a WEATHER MAN for Christ's sake. He reads the weather on a TV show. I'm not sure he has ever had an interesting thought.
3 hours of Mafia Life Chris and FFB or 10 minutes of Roker.
The decision is yours.
Slumbag
02-10-2009, 08:48 PM
3 hours of Mafia Life Chris and FFB or 10 minutes of Roker.
The decision is yours.
I dunno.
Ron will make great radio out of Chris and Fred.
I think letting Jim go at him was the only solution Ron and Fez saw to make that segment listenable.
jauble
02-10-2009, 08:48 PM
The plug is just a part of it. Shit, Howard was goofing on it, because Al actually is a producer of a shitload of shows. He was saying how he should combine DEA and some of the BBQ shows he does. Funnier than it sounds here, you had to listen to it.
Again, how is Roker being there any different than the unit photographer of Watchmen? he takes pictures. Oooh. OK....
You are right, but what I gathered from listening is that this was going to be a problem from the start. Ron just wasn't into it and sounded like he didn't like him.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 08:51 PM
You are right, but what I gathered from listening is that this was going to be a problem from the start. Ron just wasn't into it and sounded like he didn't like him.
Then don't take the booking. Ron bitches out about how the board causes all this shit with publicists, you don't think word of this won't get back to the Today show producers?
Gee, they have no contacts with publicists, bookers, anything AT ALL.
jauble
02-10-2009, 08:53 PM
Then don't take the booking. Ron bitches out about how the board causes all this shit with publicists, you don't think word of this won't get back to the Today show producers?
Gee, they have no contacts with publicists, bookers, anything AT ALL.
You said he was on stern this morning, which makes me wonder if this was a pressured booking from siriusxm. I don't know anymore than anyone else here about that though.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 08:55 PM
You said he was on stern this morning, which makes me wonder if this was a pressured booking from siriusxm. I don't know anymore than anyone else here about that though.
If that's the case, then that makes it even worse, because Jimmy effectively shits all over both O&A and R&F's bookings.
I mean, it's not like they have to worry about their jobs or anything, it's 2001, everything is great!
Chimee
02-10-2009, 08:55 PM
I don't like most of the people that get interviewed on Ron and Fez because most of it is just the same old stuff about things I don't care about. I would also rather hear 3 hours of Mafialife Chris being a homophobe than 10 seconds of Al Roker asking Jimmy if he's driving. I don't want to hear some dope trying to be fun and interesting if they can't even come close to pulling off anything entertaining. It's great for Ron to interview someone that did anything, but Matty is right about no one wanting to hear about the photographer from a movie.
Chimee
02-10-2009, 08:56 PM
If that's the case, then that makes it even worse, because Jimmy effectively shits all over both O&A and R&F's bookings.
I mean, it's not like they have to worry about their jobs or anything, it's 2001, everything is great!
Worse than tearing up books, attacking them as characters, or Opie hanging up on them?
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 08:56 PM
I don't like most of the people that get interviewed on Ron and Fez because most of it is just the same old stuff about things I don't care about. I would also rather hear 3 hours of Mafialife Chris being a homophobe than 10 seconds of Al Roker asking Jimmy if he's driving. I don't want to hear some dope trying to be fun and interesting if they can't even come close to pulling off anything entertaining. It's great for Ron to interview someone that did anything, but Matty is right about no one wanting to hear about the photographer from a movie.
Don't get me wrong, the book is cool as shit (I saw some of the pics on AICN) but I'm not sure why he was interview-worthy.
Slumbag
02-10-2009, 08:57 PM
If that's the case, then that makes it even worse, because Jimmy effectively shits all over both O&A and R&F's bookings.
I don't think you can blame Jim for the Roker thing.
Ron let him on the air, that's on them.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 08:58 PM
Worse than tearing up books, attacking them as characters, or Opie hanging up on them?
How long has it been since they did that? And for what it's worth, it's different than doing it with Star Wars Guy or something than someone who has a direct connection to one of the most powerful PR and booking people in the United States.
I would say that the Today's show booking people is probably top 5, - Letterman, Leno, Kimmel, Conan, Today Show.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 08:59 PM
I don't think you can blame Jim for the Roker thing.
Ron let him on the air, that's on them.
Jim called in in the first place.
Remember, we all blamed Mercurio for Sex for Sam III... Opie let him on the air.
Then don't take the booking. Ron bitches out about how the board causes all this shit with publicists, you don't think word of this won't get back to the Today show producers?
Gee, they have no contacts with publicists, bookers, anything AT ALL.
Do you really think ron would want the fucking people that are Today shows guests? Do you even fucking listen to the shows at all?
And there is no way roker can be made interesting unless they take his flabby ass and put it over an open fire. But Im sure howie kissed ass and made the same lame jokes about his weight struggle, roker is not interesting and he should never have been booked on the show. Or any show that is slightly edgy for that matter.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 09:05 PM
Do you really think ron would want the fucking people that are Today shows guests? Do you even fucking listen to the shows at all?
Considering Today gets some pretty A-list guests, yes. Ron would fall over himself with interviews if he even got a hundreth of the A-List people Today gets. You think he fucking enjoys interviewing Uwe Boll and Paulo Costanzo?
jauble
02-10-2009, 09:08 PM
One more thing Matty (pardon the copy from the other thread) I bet if roker answered jim this would have been a great interview and ron would have really directed it to make it interesting and not let it get out of hand. If roker would have been open to the possibility of a discussion I dont think it would have gotten out of hand.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 09:11 PM
One more thing Matty (pardon the copy from the other thread) I bet if roker answered jim this would have been a great interview and ron would have really directed it to make it interesting and not let it get out of hand. If roker would have been open to the possibility of a discussion I dont think it would have gotten out of hand.
Excellent point. I don't blame Ron for taking the call, because he took a gamble, but I think the impetus - Jimmy holding a 2 year grudge - is stupid.
Maybe it's something he should talk to his therapist about... because god only knows, holding a grudge over comments when the person in question got paid and is working again surely is the sign of being able to have healthy relationships.
Slumbag
02-10-2009, 09:13 PM
Excellent point. I don't blame Ron for taking the call, because he took a gamble, but I think the impetus - Jimmy holding a 2 year grudge - is stupid.
Maybe it's something he should talk to his therapist about... because god only knows, holding a grudge over comments when the person in question got paid and is working again surely is the sign of being able to have healthy relationships.
You keep saying held the grudge, like he's sitting at home stewing.
I'm pretty sure he knew this was the shot he would have to confront him on what he wanted to talk about. You don't think he would have done it 2 years ago if he had the shot?
Any other show would have sided with Roker, but he knew Ronnie B would let him be heard.
jauble
02-10-2009, 09:14 PM
Maybe it's something he should talk to his therapist about... because god only knows, holding a grudge over comments when the person in question got paid and is working again surely is the sign of being able to have healthy relationships.
I think Jim might even agree with you that he is a bit obsessed with the situation, but besides his book this was probably the only opportunity he will have to ask (or call out) roker about what happened.
Considering Today gets some pretty A-list guests, yes. Ron would fall over himself with interviews if he even got a hundreth of the A-List people Today gets. You think he fucking enjoys interviewing Uwe Boll and Paulo Costanzo?
If thats his choice then I think he would take them instead of people that need their asses kissed, most of us hate those kinds of shows.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 09:23 PM
You keep saying held the grudge, like he's sitting at home stewing.
I'm pretty sure he knew this was the shot he would have to confront him on what he wanted to talk about. You don't think he would have done it 2 years ago if he had the shot?
Any other show would have sided with Roker, but he knew Ronnie B would let him be heard.
OK... why the need to confront him? Roker spoke his mind on a hot topic. He didn't have direct control over Imus being fired or not. Even if Imus lost the MSNBC job, Roker's comments had ZERO implication on Imus losing the CBS radio job.
Tim Russert fucking CRUCIFIED Imus when it happened and you want to know what happened? He and Imus settled things.
Jimmy getting involved in this was just Jimmy's attempt to show that he's a big angry man when in reality, he's very, very weak. It happened 2 years ago with a situation he had very little to do with. He wanted to call out Roker for being a hypocrite, well, here's the thing...
Roker made a joke about epilepsy and apologized for it. He didn't have a history of making insensitive comments, and he nipped what happened in the bud.
Imus, on the other hand, had a long history of insensitive comments, and from a PR perspective, he made a lot of bad moves leading up to his termination from CBS.
Granted, I think Imus getting fired was stupid and uncalled for. But it was also 2 years ago. Imus got paid from CBS and he's working again at WABC. I don't see where Jimmy's place is to "confront" anyone over this, when the players who are primarily involved have all moved on.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 09:26 PM
If thats his choice then I think he would take them instead of people that need their asses kissed, most of us hate those kinds of shows.
...since when does Ron do high-intensity, Morton Downey Jr.-style confrontational interviews?
Slumbag
02-10-2009, 09:29 PM
OK... why the need to confront him?
Maybe cause no one has ever confronted him about it before.
It's kind of like if you saw a hundred Mel Gibson interviews, and no one ever asked him why he hates the Jews so much. After too long, some Jewish guy is gonna get ahold of him, and ask him what was never asked.
That is a VERY loose analogy.
Tenbatsuzen
02-10-2009, 09:37 PM
Maybe cause no one has ever confronted him about it before.
It's kind of like if you saw a hundred Mel Gibson interviews, and no one ever asked him why he hates the Jews so much. After too long, some Jewish guy is gonna get ahold of him, and ask him what was never asked.
That is a VERY loose analogy.
It's a very loose analogy that really doesn't even apply to the situation.
Al Roker is a black man who has a right to be offended by Imus' comments, and he posted a blog saying so - like I said, I don't think he even took to NBC's air to discuss about Imus.
Also, the whole Imus / Epilepsy thing was a manufactured rage segment that was spoon-fed to the Virus listening audience. Nobody else made that jump EXCEPT O&A and Jimmy. And no one held on to it but Jimmy.
Al was pissed about Imus and made a stupid comment about Epilepsy. He apologized for it, but Jimmy was basically going after him for something that O&A made up themselves.
KnoxHarrington
02-10-2009, 09:42 PM
...since when does Ron do high-intensity, Morton Downey Jr.-style confrontational interviews?
That's one of the things I like about R&F as opposed to O&A -- O&A will bail out of interviews early, launching into the whole tired "RAAAAAAMONE" schtick, whereas Ronnie hangs with an interview, even if it's going badly, and tries to salvage something from it -- see the Tom Twyker interview from earlier in the show.
That sort of thing is not a R&F thing at all.
Slumbag
02-10-2009, 09:48 PM
It's a very loose analogy that really doesn't even apply to the situation.
I do that. My bad.
Al Roker is a black man who has a right to be offended by Imus' comments, and he posted a blog saying so - like I said, I don't think he even took to NBC's air to discuss about Imus.
I have a feeling if some black radio host had the chance to talk to Imus, he would probably bring up the Rutgers thing. Why wouldn't a person who believes in free speech have the same right to be offended as Al Roker?
Also, the whole Imus / Epilepsy thing was a manufactured rage segment that was spoon-fed to the Virus listening audience. Nobody else made that jump EXCEPT O&A and Jimmy. And no one held on to it but Jimmy.
I don't think it matters how it was brought to everyones attention, it was a valid point.
I think were looking way too deep into this.
Knowledged_one
02-10-2009, 09:48 PM
I agree with matty here if satelite radio goes belly up burning bridges with pr people may not be the way to go as those people usually have more then one client and it becomes a ripple effect
Reynolds
02-10-2009, 10:02 PM
I think were looking way too deep into this.
Ya think?
conman823
02-11-2009, 01:24 AM
Haven't heard the audio yet but:
In the past Roker has been seen laughing at racist jokes at the Friars Club roasts (Although this was reported by jimmy). Also he did say he spoke with Upper Management about the Imus situation. like it or not I bet that guys got some clout. Also Jimmies obsession with this led to a chapter in his book. The epilepsy "joke" may have offended thousands of people, but guess what? TODAY Show is gonna bury those complaints because there is no "Al Sharpton" fighting that cause.
Although I have come to expect better from Ron, since the was "shock jockery" at it worst. At best it was fan service. Phone to Phone is no balls, sorry for whoever liked it. If he was in studio and Norton was also it would have a lot more credibility. I don't subscibe to the Norton is a tough guy gimmick, since he has been proven time and time again to not be.
Sudsy Mug Saloon
02-11-2009, 02:22 AM
Storyline? You mean that entire thing is a sham?
I first thought it was an ESD impression of Al Roker
If thats his choice then I think he would take them instead of people that need their asses kissed, most of us hate those kinds of shows.
Most of us hate fucking crazed and AJ fuckhead. When the fuck has Ron given two fucking shits what we care about?
Reynolds
02-11-2009, 03:24 AM
Most of us hate fucking crazed and AJ fuckhead. When the fuck has Ron given two fucking shits what we care about?
:blink:
Sorry I'm angry today :help:
Not a big fan of cringe radio. Especially with Jimmy going off on statements said in the heat of the moment almost two fucking years ago.
That's what I was thinking. It would have been funnier 2 years ago.
underdog
02-11-2009, 05:28 AM
Besides, Roker was on Stern this morning and it was actually a pretty good interview, not the "plug fest" that people are implying. If I had some asshole haranguing me about comments from 2 years ago, I'd hang up too.
I'm sure the interview with the weather guy from the Today show was riveting.
Hey Jimmy: You work for CBS Radio. Tony Page on WFAN, your sister station, went OFF on Imus for a few hours during his show when this whole mess was going down. Why don't you fucking call in to his show? Oh wait, he works for CBS. That would be bad.
Because no one knows or cares who Tony fucking Page is. Al Roker is on national television every weekday morning. I'm assuming Norton has never even heard of Tony Page.
You think he fucking enjoys interviewing Uwe Boll and Paulo Costanzo?
Yes.
I'm guessing Ron really doesn't want to interview most of the guest the Today show gets. Maybe he could get Shia La Bouf and you could cream your pants!
I'm guessing Ron really doesn't want to interview most of the guest the Today show gets. Maybe he could get Shia La Bouf and you could cream your pants!
Was there a need for that?
underdog
02-11-2009, 05:38 AM
Was there a need for that?
Yes.
Charlie_Don't_Surf
02-11-2009, 06:16 AM
http://allday.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/10/116906.aspx
Roker says Time for Imus to Go
Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:10 AM by Jen Brown
(From Al Roker)
I cannot tell you how many people have asked me about my thoughts on Don Imus. As a student of broadcasting, I know Don Imus was one of the original “shock jocks.” I listened to him growing up in New York City in the late '60s and early '70s.
He is a radio icon.
That said, it is time for him to go.
I, for one, am really tired of the diatribes, the “humor” at others’ expense, the cruelty that passes for “funny”. Don Imus isn’t the only one doing this, but today he’s the one in the hot seat.
What he said was vile and disgusting. It denigrated an entire team and by extension, a community and its pride in a group that had excelled.
This controversy started and grew during the week. At first under the radar, we even had Don’s wife, Deidre, on the program, talking about “green” cleaning. I thought she was so good I wanted to talk to her about a television program for my production company.
Don and his wife have done a lot of good things—raising money for charity, including a ranch for children suffering from cancer and blood disorders.
Yet, Don Imus needs to be fired for what he said. And while we’re at it, his producer, Bernard McGuirk, needs to be canned as well. McGuirk is just as guilty, often egging Imus on.
The “I’m a good person who said a bad thing” apology doesn’t cut it. At least he didn’t try to weasel out of this by hiding behind alcohol or drug abuse. Still, he said it and a two-week suspension doesn’t cut it. It is, at best, a slap on the wrist. A vacation. Nothing.
The general manager of Cartoon Network resigned after a publicity stunt went wrong and caused a panic in Boston. He did the right thing. Don Imus should do the right thing and resign. Not talk about taking a two-week suspension with dignity. I don’t think Don Imus gets it.
After watching and listening to him this morning during an interview with Matt Lauer (video), Don Imus doesn’t get it. Maybe it’s being stuck in a studio for 35 years or being stuck in the 1980s. Either way, it’s obvious that he needs to move on. Citing “context within a comedy show” is not an excuse.
He has to take his punishment and start over. Guess what? He’ll get re-hired and we’ll go on like nothing happened. CBS Radio and NBC News needs to remove Don Imus from the airwaves. That is what needs to happen. Otherwise, it just looks like profits and ratings rule over decency and justice.
* Editor's Note: The response to Al's blog has been overwhelming, and Al will talk more about his blog on tomorrow's show. We're trying to post as many comments as possible, but it's hard to keep up. Thanks for sharing.
Follow the link to see the comments.
WOW - Matty nailed this, imo - although, I sincerely think that if he's going to mention my old buddy, Morton Downey Jr., the least he can do is reference his other Frietag sig-pic.
"Hating" Al Roker is seriously maybe the stupidest thing I have read, second only to declaring Jimmy a "hero" for going for an easy mark (as was said a couple of pages back).
...since when does Ron do high-intensity, Morton Downey Jr.-style confrontational interviews?
Since he had a fat douchebag weatherman on that thinks his shit doesnt stink.
It's a very loose analogy that really doesn't even apply to the situation.
Al Roker is a black man who has a right to be offended by Imus' comments, and he posted a blog saying so - like I said, I don't think he even took to NBC's air to discuss about Imus.
Also, the whole Imus / Epilepsy thing was a manufactured rage segment that was spoon-fed to the Virus listening audience. Nobody else made that jump EXCEPT O&A and Jimmy. And no one held on to it but Jimmy.
Al was pissed about Imus and made a stupid comment about Epilepsy. He apologized for it, but Jimmy was basically going after him for something that O&A made up themselves.No he shouldnt have been offended, they were nappy hoes.
And a lot of people made the leap about the epileptic rage since he had to go on air and give an apology which was subpar IMO
RAAMONE
02-11-2009, 08:12 AM
Here ya go: http://www.zshare.net/audio/554131158c3f3e61/
Eternally, eh? Nice. This audio made me very happy. I hate this fat fuck. And I totally agree with GAZ. Roker knew exactly who Jimmy was as soon as he was introduced. And Jimmy showed what a complete douchebag Roker is. I hope someone sends the audio to Imus.
oh...hi Ramooone
jauble
02-11-2009, 08:15 AM
oh...hi Ramooone
We've been waiting on this.
Fred from Brooklyn
02-11-2009, 08:51 AM
OK... why the need to confront him? Roker spoke his mind on a hot topic. He didn't have direct control over Imus being fired or not. Even if Imus lost the MSNBC job, Roker's comments had ZERO implication on Imus losing the CBS radio job.
Tim Russert fucking CRUCIFIED Imus when it happened and you want to know what happened? He and Imus settled things.
Jimmy getting involved in this was just Jimmy's attempt to show that he's a big angry man when in reality, he's very, very weak. It happened 2 years ago with a situation he had very little to do with. He wanted to call out Roker for being a hypocrite, well, here's the thing...
Roker made a joke about epilepsy and apologized for it. He didn't have a history of making insensitive comments, and he nipped what happened in the bud.
Imus, on the other hand, had a long history of insensitive comments, and from a PR perspective, he made a lot of bad moves leading up to his termination from CBS.
Granted, I think Imus getting fired was stupid and uncalled for. But it was also 2 years ago. Imus got paid from CBS and he's working again at WABC. I don't see where Jimmy's place is to "confront" anyone over this, when the players who are primarily involved have all moved on.
Roper lover....
Servo
02-11-2009, 08:54 AM
Roper lover....
http://www.survivinggrady.com/roper.jpg
kdubya
02-11-2009, 09:12 AM
That too. Very machievellian/opieanthonian of Ron.
Which is weird... like I said, I listened to Roker on Stern earlier today and it was actually a pretty good listen. I wonder why Ron wasn't into it.
He wasn't into it because Al is a windbag with nothing to add. Ron as well as O and A have a problem with hypocrisy and anyone trying to limit free speech.
Freitag
02-11-2009, 09:28 AM
He wasn't into it because Al is a windbag with nothing to add. Ron as well as O and A have a problem with hypocrisy and anyone trying to limit free speech.
Al was exercising his right to free speech with what he said. Ultimately, the person who limited Imus's so-called Free Speech were the higher-ups at CBS.
Convienently, that's who O&A are still taking a paycheck from, and who R&F were taking a paycheck from.
You were speaking about hypocrisy?
I honestly don't know what Norton thought he was getting out of the ambush. All he seemed to do was hurt the credibility of the Ron & Fez brand with public relations people.
Freitag
02-11-2009, 10:22 AM
I honestly don't know what Norton thought he was getting out of the ambush. All he seemed to do was hurt the credibility of the Ron & Fez brand with public relations people.
Self-gratification. People with addiction issues are usually very selfish. I mean, do you think Imus cares he did this? if anything, Imus is probably wondering why the hell he brought this up again.
Self-gratification. People with addiction issues are usually very selfish. I mean, do you think Imus cares he did this? if anything, Imus is probably wondering why the hell he brought this up again.
A couple of things come to mind for me:
1. Imus doesn't need an advocate. He's a big boy and plays in a MUCH bigger world than O&A do.
2. If Jimmy HAD to shit on Roker, then do it on the show that you are associated with.
Friday
02-11-2009, 10:32 AM
A couple of things come to mind for me:
1. Imus doesn't need an advocate. He's a big boy and plays in a MUCH bigger world than O&A do.
2. If Jimmy HAD to shit on Roker, then do it on the show that you are associated with.
i agree.
but remember that this was ron's show and they CLEARLY asked or suggested that Jimmy call in knowing exactly what would happen.
the big picture? who really gives a crap anyway.
but it made for interesting radio for about 15 seconds.
meh.
drjoek
02-11-2009, 10:33 AM
A couple of things come to mind for me:
1. Imus doesn't need an advocate. He's a big boy and plays in a MUCH bigger world than O&A do.
2. If Jimmy HAD to shit on Roker, then do it on the show that you are associated with.
Ron had to know that something was going to happen. Jimmys been around for years and this is the one day they schedule him to call in? If they pulled the replay the suits upstairs can't have been pleased.
i agree.
but remember that this was ron's show and they CLEARLY asked or suggested that Jimmy call in knowing exactly what would happen.
the big picture? who really gives a crap anyway.
but it made for interesting radio for about 15 seconds.
meh.
I totally agree that Ron knew about it, but honestly the whole idea was dumb.
And the irony is that the "ambush" was really "inside" about an outdated event from a different network.
Yawn.
Serpico1103
02-11-2009, 11:32 AM
Al was exercising his right to free speech with what he said. Ultimately, the person who limited Imus's so-called Free Speech were the higher-ups at CBS.
Convienently, that's who O&A are still taking a paycheck from, and who R&F were taking a paycheck from.
You were speaking about hypocrisy?
I don't think O&A or Jimmy have said that anyone should give up a paycheck for principle. So, I think you are using "hypocrisy" too broadly.
They know that CBS that fired him, but they also know that CBS will react to what it perceives the public wants. So, by Al Roker making a stink on his blog it draws unneeded attention to the incident.
If Al believes what he did was right he could have stayed on the phone and discussed it. Don't take a stand on principle if you don't have the energy or desire to back it up.
underdog
02-11-2009, 02:05 PM
Self-gratification. People with addiction issues are usually very selfish.
Yuck.
I honestly don't know what Norton thought he was getting out of the ambush. All he seemed to do was hurt the credibility of the Ron & Fez brand with public relations people.
I'm assuming Ron asked Jimmy to call to at least try to make the interview interesting.
HamandEgger
02-11-2009, 03:35 PM
Did they talk about this at all today?
HamandEgger
02-11-2009, 03:37 PM
i agree.
but remember that this was ron's show and they CLEARLY asked or suggested that Jimmy call in knowing exactly what would happen.
the big picture? who really gives a crap anyway.
but it made for interesting radio for about 15 seconds.
meh.
I specifically heard Ron say he could not control who calls in. :innocent:
GreatAmericanZero
02-11-2009, 03:41 PM
Can you fucking non-brain users ever stop using "kool-aid" as a fucking crutch?! Jesus fucking christ.
Just because someone agrees with someone on the radio doesn't mean they're a fucking kool-aid drinker.
glad other people are starting to say it!
AnnoyedGrunt
02-11-2009, 04:44 PM
Ron and Fez can obviously run their show any way they please but I hope that they stop bashing the boards for making it hard to get guests. This is far more damaging than people posting 'Zzzzzz' in a listening thread.
Ramooone
02-11-2009, 04:56 PM
oh...hi Ramooone
Back at ya Raamone.
There seems to be more outrage about the similarity of our names than about the fact that SiriusXM censored Ron and Fez, and apparently isn't allowing them to address the issue on air. I don't understand why more people on here aren't upset by that.
CofyCrakCocaine
02-11-2009, 07:27 PM
We get it, you guys think beating up on some irrelevant 2 years old grudge that was blown way out of proportion by one side that is their overall rage about how some news event affected their careers just being projected onto a safe, easy target is the newest flavor of kool-aid and you're all forming lines blocks long to buy it. btw i said koolaid. koolaid helps me walk, get it, cuz it's a crutch ;)
kool-aid lovers!!!!! us non-brain users hate it!!!!
YECH!!!!!!
btw Matthew 2009 has been the harbinger of truth and justice. meaning i agree with everything he said. like i said before, i dont care how bad this makes me look. (OH OH BUT IF YOU SAY YOU DONT CARE YOU REALLY DO CARE- more koolaid points for ya)
jauble
02-11-2009, 07:29 PM
Fuckin thirsty over here.
KnoxHarrington
02-11-2009, 07:31 PM
By the way, it was Flavor-Aid they drunk that fateful day in Jonestown, not Kool-Aid.
underdog
02-11-2009, 07:34 PM
We get it, you guys think beating up on some irrelevant 2 years old grudge that was blown way out of proportion by one side that is their overall rage about how some news event affected their careers just being projected onto a safe, easy target is the newest flavor of kool-aid and you're all forming lines blocks long to buy it. btw i said koolaid. koolaid helps me walk, get it, cuz it's a crutch ;)
kool-aid lovers!!!!! us non-brain users hate it!!!!
YECH!!!!!!
btw Matthew 2009 has been the harbinger of truth and justice. meaning i agree with everything he said. like i said before, i dont care how bad this makes me look. (OH OH BUT IF YOU SAY YOU DONT CARE YOU REALLY DO CARE- more koolaid points for ya)
I think you're having a breakdown.
CofyCrakCocaine
02-11-2009, 07:39 PM
OH YEAH!!
goddamn it, I just finished laying those bricks 5 minutes ago!!
FUCKTWATtheCLOWN
02-12-2009, 05:12 PM
OK... why the need to confront him? Roker spoke his mind on a hot topic. He didn't have direct control over Imus being fired or not. Even if Imus lost the MSNBC job, Roker's comments had ZERO implication on Imus losing the CBS radio job.
Jimmy had wanted to call him out ever since it happened, but hasn't had the opportunity to. Roker wouldn't go on the show
Roker made a joke about epilepsy and apologized for it. He didn't have a history of making insensitive comments, and he nipped what happened in the bud.
Imus, on the other hand, had a long history of insensitive comments, and from a PR perspective, he made a lot of bad moves leading up to his termination from CBS.
Imus didnt get fired for all of his insensitive comments, it was all over this one incident. And if a person has a history of being insensitive, don't be shocked when he acts that way. When a person who projects themself as squeaky clean Al Roker does something out of character, it just may be a spot of their true self shining through.
Granted, I think Imus getting fired was stupid and uncalled for. But it was also 2 years ago. Imus got paid from CBS and he's working again at WABC. I don't see where Jimmy's place is to "confront" anyone over this, when the players who are primarily involved have all moved on.
Jimmy is a radio personality who could find himself in the same situation as Imus one day. He takes his stance on the side of broadcasters that are fired for nothing. He wasn't stepping in out of nowhere, either. He wouldn't have known about Al's appearance or come on the show without Ron asking him to in the first place.
GreatAmericanZero
02-12-2009, 05:27 PM
the way i see it, theres two sides
theres the jim norton fans who loved seeing jim confront someone who he dedicated a chapter to in his book
and theres the people who didnt like the segment. But, what is the other alternative? An interesting Al Roker interview? Al Rocker was booked, give it to the Norton fans to have a day in the sun. Who really fuckin' feels disappointed that they missed out on what Roker was pushing
Serpico1103
02-12-2009, 06:20 PM
It would have been a boring interview. What would Al divulge that would be of any interest?
It could have went better, but Al decided to run from the "ambush." "Wah, I can't stand up for what I believe."
But, it seems people have personal issues with Jimmy the "addictive emotionally unstable grudge holder." All may be true, but so? Who posts here that doesn't closely fit that description? The angry multiple personality poster who has named his previous personalities? Some of us aren't perfect, others think they are.
Knowledged_one
02-12-2009, 06:29 PM
I enjoy nortons comedy but he is a coward in how he confronted him and r&f enabled it.
and why would roker who was there for an entirely different reason stick around. To rehash an event from two years ago that he most likely hasnt thought about in 18 months. You know what fuck jim norton roker owes him nothing and had no reason to stay on and validate jim norton
Tenbatsuzen
02-12-2009, 06:33 PM
It would have been a boring interview. What would Al divulge that would be of any interest?
It could have went better, but Al decided to run from the "ambush." "Wah, I can't stand up for what I believe."
But, it seems people have personal issues with Jimmy the "addictive emotionally unstable grudge holder." All may be true, but so? Who posts here that doesn't closely fit that description? The angry multiple personality poster who has named his previous personalities? Some of us aren't perfect, others think they are.
If I was brought into an interview under false pretenses over something that happened 2 years ago, I'd be pretty fucking pissed too.
Norton admitted himself on the show today that "he is an attention whore which feeds into his addictions". Nothing I have said in this thread has been an exagerration or far from the truth, and Norton would be the first to agree with me.
Fred from Brooklyn
02-12-2009, 06:38 PM
But, it seems people have personal issues with Ant the "addictive emotionally unstable ranter. All may be true, but so?
Wow...nice to see your coming around
BigReggie
02-12-2009, 06:40 PM
Wait I'm starting to lose the point.. No matter what you think of the attack, we realize that Roker is a turd, right?
I usually root for the other side, that was classic
Knowledged_one
02-12-2009, 06:44 PM
Dont speak for everyone
Serpico1103
02-12-2009, 07:37 PM
If I was brought into an interview under false pretenses over something that happened 2 years ago, I'd be pretty fucking pissed too.
Norton admitted himself on the show today that "he is an attention whore which feeds into his addictions". Nothing I have said in this thread has been an exagerration or far from the truth, and Norton would be the first to agree with me.
It is how you presented the facts that was unfair.
I am not sure Jimmy being an "attention whore" or an addict has anything to do with his dislike for Al Roker. It is an issue that he finds very important. So, it is no surprise that he still remembers it two years later.
You would have every right to be pissed, but again, if you believed in your position you could stay and argue. Or run and hide. Maybe Al 2008 would have stayed to discuss his position.
CofyCrakCocaine
02-12-2009, 08:40 PM
the way i see it, theres two sides
theres the jim norton fans who loved seeing jim confront someone who he dedicated a chapter to in his book
and theres the people who didnt like the segment. But, what is the other alternative? An interesting Al Roker interview? Al Rocker was booked, give it to the Norton fans to have a day in the sun. Who really fuckin' feels disappointed that they missed out on what Roker was pushing
It's not that I'm disappointed or elated. I'm just not impressed, and as such I'm being the contrarian fuck who interferes with the undue worship parade.
Which rhymes with kool-aid.
I love Jimmy, just not everything he does. Here's another overused statement: To each their own.
Caseyelan
02-12-2009, 08:43 PM
Jimmy's the best.
GreatAmericanZero
02-13-2009, 03:27 AM
It's not that I'm disappointed or elated. I'm just not impressed, and as such I'm being the contrarian fuck who interferes with the undue worship parade.
Which rhymes with kool-aid.
I love Jimmy, just not everything he does. Here's another overused statement: To each their own.
but this segment was loved by a lot of the fans (as seen in this thread). So, when the options are to have an al rocker segment that is loved by a lot of the fans or one that serves the fans with, at the very most, indifference (if they did a real interview with Roker)...let some of the fans love the segment. Its the best option they had
people are so selfish when it comes to their radio entertainment
jclassic
02-13-2009, 12:29 PM
Finally listened to this and I'm kind of let down. Making light of epilepsy and being called a nappy headed ho really are apples and oranges and trying to act like Roker had a pivotal role in anything is kind of ridiculous. Al Sharpton, maybe. Al Roker? Does anybody think he speaks for anybody? It was all kind of weak material to hit him with....
At least he didn't force a pudding head joke this time.
CofyCrakCocaine
02-13-2009, 12:46 PM
but this segment was loved by a lot of the fans (as seen in this thread). So, when the options are to have an al rocker segment that is loved by a lot of the fans or one that serves the fans with, at the very most, indifference (if they did a real interview with Roker)...let some of the fans love the segment. Its the best option they had
people are so selfish when it comes to their radio entertainment
I don't see how my dissidence/indifference would influence your enjoyment. Nor do I see how you interpret my opinion as a statement that you shouldn't be allowed to love a segment.
Sucking in air is a selfish act too. Should I be apologetic for breathing?
Besides, if everyone agreed that the bit was great, this thread would have died 3 days ago already. Tho it is on life support.
Serpico1103
02-13-2009, 02:18 PM
Sucking in air is a selfish act too.
No, it is not.
CofyCrakCocaine
02-13-2009, 02:41 PM
No, it is not.
I wasn't aware one breathed to promote others.
Serpico1103
02-13-2009, 02:52 PM
I wasn't aware one breathed to promote others.
Selfishness is putting your needs over the needs of another. Your breathing has no impact on my or anyone's ability to breathe.
If we were in an air tight chamber and you were hogging all the air with your rapid shallow breaths from the three C's, than that would be selfish.
CofyCrakCocaine
02-13-2009, 03:09 PM
It was just an analogy Larry Literal! Point being it's dumb to call somebody out for something you're more than likely guilty of yourself.
There's more than one definition of selfish.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree :surrender:
Serpico1103
02-13-2009, 03:38 PM
It was just an analogy Larry Literal! Point being it's dumb to call somebody out for something you're more than likely guilty of yourself.
There's more than one definition of selfish.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree :surrender:
While I refuse to agree to your terms, I will accept your surrender.
Besides, if we didn't critique each other for our common faults, what would there be left to talk about?
CofyCrakCocaine
02-13-2009, 03:47 PM
While I refuse to agree to your terms, I will accept your surrender.
Besides, if we didn't critique each other for our common faults, what would there be left to talk about?
some girl's titties?
Serpico1103
02-13-2009, 03:53 PM
some girl's titties?
Discussing them is not favorite activity when it comes to tits.
CofyCrakCocaine
02-13-2009, 04:11 PM
Discussing them is not favorite activity when it comes to tits.
True, but you asked what was there left to talk about and titties was all I could think of. When it comes to debates. Certainly beats 911 theories.
Serpico1103
02-13-2009, 04:18 PM
True, but you asked what was there left to talk about and titties was all I could think of. When it comes to debates. Certainly beats 911 theories.
An intelligent 9/11 conspiracy theory might be interesting, but I haven't heard one yet.
For now, I'll stick with Shawna Lenee's tits or Bpablo's side tit.
Zenbean
02-14-2009, 03:20 AM
I like Norton alot, and think he's hilarious. But I have a real problem with anyone who is for "freedom of speech" or "non censorship" (whatever you want to call it), and defend it by attacking other people's same rights. Roker may be a jackass, but if you want to defend Imus, you do it by defending Roker's right to say what he wants as well.
I don't get people who don't see out of their own little world.
longshot
02-14-2009, 01:58 PM
I don't think Jimmy had a problem with Al saying what he said. What he had a problem with was why was it ok for him to say something dispariging and not Imus. And Jimmy would have called the windbag out on O&A in person but lardass cancelled when he got word of it
Tenbatsuzen
02-14-2009, 02:03 PM
I like Norton alot, and think he's hilarious. But I have a real problem with anyone who is for "freedom of speech" or "non censorship" (whatever you want to call it), and defend it by attacking other people's same rights. Roker may be a jackass, but if you want to defend Imus, you do it by defending Roker's right to say what he wants as well.
I don't get people who don't see out of their own little world.
Exactly. There's two things Norton is attacking - either Al's freedom of speech, or Al's hypocrisy. if Norton wants to attack Al's hypocrisy, Norton is a hypocrite himself for continuing to take a paycheck from CBS after CBS fired Imus. Ultimately, it was CBS's decision to fire Imus. No one else had control in that situation.
Imus said something, Imus apologized. His company had enough of his shit and got rid of him. They ended paying him a settlement anyway, and Imus was working again six months later.
Roker said something, Roker apologized. His company stood by him.
I've never been able to view Norton the same way after he contacted a college girl who reviewed "Lucky Louie" for her school paper and absolutely trashed her.
The way he ruthlessly went after every critic who called it what it was (an unwatchable piece of shit) just reeked of childishness and insecurity, and going after a barely legal chick was the final straw for me.
Jimmy's capable of some incredibly witty humor and has an incredibly quick mind, but it's hard to like him. For me, anyway.
Tenbatsuzen
02-14-2009, 02:56 PM
I've never been able to view Norton the same way after he contacted a college girl who reviewed "Lucky Louie" for her school paper and absolutely trashed her.
The way he ruthlessly went after every critic who called it what it was (an unwatchable piece of shit) just reeked of childishness and insecurity, and going after a barely legal chick was the final straw for me.
Jimmy's capable of some incredibly witty humor and has an incredibly quick mind, but it's hard to like him. For me, anyway.
Holy shit, I totally forgot about this point, and you're right. That was one of my turning points on Norton as well - he totally could not accept that someone wouldn't like Lucky Louie and he went apeshit on anyone who didn't.
Never mind the fact that the show just wasn't that good, but that's more on CK and not Jimmy... face it, CK's brand of humor isn't for everyone.
Scruluse
02-17-2009, 05:54 PM
Jimmy had wanted to call him out ever since it happened, but hasn't had the opportunity to. Roker wouldn't go on the show
Imus didnt get fired for all of his insensitive comments, it was all over this one incident. And if a person has a history of being insensitive, don't be shocked when he acts that way. When a person who projects themself as squeaky clean Al Roker does something out of character, it just may be a spot of their true self shining through.
Jimmy is a radio personality who could find himself in the same situation as Imus one day. He takes his stance on the side of broadcasters that are fired for nothing. He wasn't stepping in out of nowhere, either. He wouldn't have known about Al's appearance or come on the show without Ron asking him to in the first place.
If Al showed up on the O&A show I'm sure Jimmy and O&A would fold just like they did when Whoppi showed up.
It sounded to me like Ron was just trying to make an interview with a boring, hollow celeb more interesting but people like Al can't hang with any subjects that have substance. I've always been impressed with Ron's interviewing skills and wish they could get better guests. Unfortunately the good guests always go to O&A who totally blow at interviews.
Did no one else hear Ron and Fez on Monday where they basically said they were thrown under the bus because of this, by bigger person/persons who they had covered for in the past??
Do people still want to award Norton the "Hero" badge?
Did no one else hear Ron and Fez on Monday where they basically said they were thrown under the bus because of this, by bigger person/persons who they had covered for in the past??
Do people still want to award Norton the "Hero" badge?
I didn't hear this at all.
Do you remember exactly what was said and in what context?
I didn't hear this at all.
Do you remember exactly what was said and in what context?
It was during the discussion on hot and funny women - Parker Posey came up and the topic briefly went into booking her on the show (check out the listening thread for the time, because someone comments on her), and about the heat they got for the last interview - it was all very quick, but it did hint at the kind of behind the scenes stuff I use to listen too closely for. I was surprised nothing was mentioned in the listening thread.
KnoxHarrington
02-18-2009, 08:00 AM
It was during the discussion on hot and funny women - Parker Posey came up and the topic briefly went into booking her on the show (check out the listening thread for the time, because someone comments on her), and about the heat they got for the last interview - it was all very quick, but it did hint at the kind of behind the scenes stuff I use to listen too closely for. I was surprised nothing was mentioned in the listening thread.
It did strike me as an odd move for Ron & Fez, because I think Ronnie is proud of his interviews and loves doing them, and participating in this silly stunt jeopardizes that.
Ronnie has gone off on negative listening threads scaring away guests before. I'll remember this whole thing next time he does.
Serpico1103
02-18-2009, 08:08 AM
Did no one else hear Ron and Fez on Monday where they basically said they were thrown under the bus because of this, by bigger person/persons who they had covered for in the past??
Do people still want to award Norton the "Hero" badge?
So you concluded it was Norton. It may have been, but it also could have been an executive. Ah, speculate, speculate, speculate.
So you concluded it was Norton. It may have been, but it also could have been an executive. Ah, speculate, speculate, speculate.
No - I wouldn't conclude that at all. I think their relationship with Jimmy has always been solid, and will continue to be. I think it must be an exec or someone behind the scenes.
FUCKTWATtheCLOWN
02-18-2009, 11:57 AM
It did strike me as an odd move for Ron & Fez, because I think Ronnie is proud of his interviews and loves doing them, and participating in this silly stunt jeopardizes that.
Ronnie has gone off on negative listening threads scaring away guests before. I'll remember this whole thing next time he does.
He loves interviewing people he is interested in. Ronnie is also proud of his radio show. This was not a stunt. He did not have Jim call in to do a Ramone call. He had Jim call in to have a debate with a person with an opposing viewpoint.
underdog
02-19-2009, 04:24 PM
Hearing Ronnie trash Tenbats over this thread on air today was pretty hilarious.
Serpico1103
02-19-2009, 06:11 PM
Hearing Ronnie trash Tenbats over this thread on air today was pretty hilarious.
Oh goodie. I didn't hear yet, but I can't wait. That Tenbats sure has douche-like characteristics. :)
mikeyboy
02-19-2009, 06:12 PM
Oh goodie. I didn't hear yet, but I can't wait. That Tenbats sure is a douche.
I'm not Matty's biggest fan, but still, ease up on the personal attacks.
BITEMETOLE
02-19-2009, 11:29 PM
Holy shit, I totally forgot about this point, and you're right. That was one of my turning points on Norton as well - he totally could not accept that someone wouldn't like Lucky Louie and he went apeshit on anyone who didn't.
Never mind the fact that the show just wasn't that good, but that's more on CK and not Jimmy... face it, CK's brand of humor isn't for everyone.
You are small minded in all of your arguments. Jimmy did exactly what you have been doing throughout this thread. You are arguing against the same thing that your are doing yourself. He took an opportunity to voice his opinion in a public forum. You are calling Jim out for his actions the same way he did with Al.
You may say that he attacked Al, much the same way you have attacked Jim. Your arguments are hypocritical at best.
And yes, I am just as hypocritical as you are for calling you out.
Boo sir! I say boo to you. Good day.
MikeB
02-20-2009, 12:17 AM
When I saw this thread today I think it was going to be about Jimmy and a certian former ron and fez intern returning this week.
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