View Full Version : Why is Spanish considered a real language?
brettmojo
02-17-2009, 10:21 AM
I'm listening to the Arod press conference and a reporter from a spanish language channel is asking him a question on spanish and there are three or four words said in English. Why? If this is a legitimate language why don't all words translate? I can't watch a minute of telemundo or univision or whatever without hearing a handful of words in English as well. Russian, French Japanese etc. don't seem to have these same instances of lacking of words in translation. So doesn't this make Spanish just a bunch of gobbly-gook? Or is it just the laziest language ever?
Hottub
02-17-2009, 10:23 AM
Spanish? sure. Especially in America.
My wife speaks Castellano.
MacVittie
02-17-2009, 10:24 AM
There are tons of words that we don't translate.
Like kindergarten.
Misteriosa
02-17-2009, 10:25 AM
the terms used in baseball are not native to spanish, so they directly borrow the word.
there are a lot of borrowed words in any language... actually, i think english has the most borrowed words out of any language.
Spanish? sure. Especially in America.
My wife speaks Castellano.
Don't ever take her to Sparks Steakhouse..
Friday
02-17-2009, 10:27 AM
american english is such a spotty and bastardized language... it really is the most 'outlaw' of just about any language.
there are words that we use here that are simply not translatable to other languages.
Kublakhan61
02-17-2009, 10:35 AM
Not really a scholar, huh?
http://www.krysstal.com/borrow.html
http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kemmer/Words/loanwords.html
IMSlacker
02-17-2009, 10:37 AM
Do you use only English words when you order Mexican food?
Don't ever take her to Sparks Steakhouse..
http://img.tfd.com/wn/66/5F78C-strike.gif
boooooo
RhinoinMN
02-17-2009, 10:42 AM
It is kind of interesting. I'm fluent with the mexicans that work for me and I always found it odd that when they end a phone conversation they say "bye".
I have never heard them end it with adios.
ToiletCrusher
02-17-2009, 10:43 AM
English is a conglomerate of all those silly European languages. Also, Spanish is considered a real language because you touch yourself at night.
Hottub
02-17-2009, 10:45 AM
Don't ever take her to Sparks Steakhouse..
That one was a way-homer.
http://img.tfd.com/wn/66/5F78C-strike.gif
boooooo
Second!!
RhinoinMN
02-17-2009, 10:48 AM
That one was a way-homer.
Why's that Glenn?
http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Reel_Girl/20070730/293.raising.arizona.073007.jpg
That one was a way-homer.
Second!!
well at least someone got it... :happy:
Hottub
02-17-2009, 10:52 AM
Why's that Glenn?
Thaaank you.
brettmojo
02-17-2009, 10:52 AM
Not really a scholar, huh?
http://www.krysstal.com/borrow.html
http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kemmer/Words/loanwords.html (http://www.ruf.rice.edu/%7Ekemmer/Words/loanwords.html)
Most of those are BS because they're proper names of places and things.
drusilla
02-17-2009, 10:55 AM
Russian, French Japanese etc. don't seem to have these same instances of lacking of words in translation. So doesn't this make Spanish just a bunch of gobbly-gook? Or is it just the laziest language ever?
i was just in quebec for the past few days & a lot of the people there go in & out of english & french when they are speaking to each other. we were sitting next to a couple in the lodge & it seemed like they were alternating with every few words. it was pretty weird.
Kublakhan61
02-17-2009, 10:59 AM
Most of those are BS because they're proper names of places and things.
Candy is from arabic - qandi
You can discount places, but not things.
Edit - Let me add burrito to the list.
Aggie
02-17-2009, 10:59 AM
They're in America, they should speak English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh wait, I guess that means we should all be speaking your language. :flush:
brettmojo
02-17-2009, 02:22 PM
Candy is from arabic - qandi
You can discount places, but not things.
Edit - Let me add burrito to the list.
Well I mean Tungsten is on that list. It's an element on the periodic table. There's others as well. Something like that is universal.
i was just in quebec for the past few days & a lot of the people there go in & out of english & french when they are speaking to each other. we were sitting next to a couple in the lodge & it seemed like they were alternating with every few words. it was pretty weird.
The Puerto Rican guys I work with do the same thing. They'll talk two sentences in Spanish, two in English. Sometimes one will talk entirely in Spanish and the other entirely in English.
I thought they were just doing it to freak me out.
ToiletCrusher
02-17-2009, 02:49 PM
The Puerto Rican guys I work with do the same thing. They'll talk two sentences in Spanish, two in English. Sometimes one will talk entirely in Spanish and the other entirely in English.
I thought they were just doing it to freak me out.
Spanish speaking supporter! Heathen!
american english is such a spotty and bastardized language... it really is the most 'outlaw' of just about any language.
there are words that we use here that are simply not translatable to other languages.
Ding. An american english speaking person ripping any language for its quality is utterly hilarious.
torker
02-18-2009, 01:31 PM
My TV needs a reverse SAP button.
Ocho Cinco
02-18-2009, 01:53 PM
[QUOTE If this is a legitimate language why don't all words translate? [/QUOTE]
i love how this sentence starts off offensive and then just turns into a nonsensical question that doesn't make sense on various levels. are you aware of the amount of words that do not translate over all the languages? or that even words that do translate still don't translate with the same meaning? i'm going to go on a limb and say you don't...
but it's good that you even have to ask if Spanish is a "legitimate" language, let me guess you've only lived in america but know for a fact it is the best country in the world without ever going anywhere else. that would seem to fit w/ your logic
adios
razorboy
02-18-2009, 01:57 PM
i love how this sentence starts off offensive and then just turns into a nonsensical question that doesn't make sense on various levels. are you aware of the amount of words that do not translate over all the languages? or that even words that do translate still don't translate with the same meaning? i'm going to go on a limb and say you don't...
but it's good that you even have to ask if Spanish is a "legitimate" language, let me guess you've only lived in america but know for a fact it is the best country in the world without ever going anywhere else. that would seem to fit w/ your logic
adios
Ochenta y cinco.
lleeder
02-18-2009, 01:59 PM
Do you use only English words when you order Mexican food?
I do. Gimme one hard shell with ground beef and cheese and a plate of those chip dealies with tomato pepper sauce. Oh yea and one sweet sour drink with extra salt.
RhinoinMN
02-18-2009, 02:00 PM
I do. Gimme one hard shell with ground beef and cheese and a plate of those chip dealies with tomato pepper sauce. Oh yea and one sweet sour drink with extra salt.
In that sweet and sour drink don't forget the alcohol that is made from a cactus.
razorboy
02-18-2009, 02:01 PM
Oh yea and one sweet sour drink with extra salt.
and fermented cactus juice.
Dammit Rhino.
lleeder
02-18-2009, 02:02 PM
In that sweet and sour drink don't forget the alcohol that is made from a cactus.
Thats true add mucho I mean alot of that shit.
Misteriosa
02-18-2009, 02:09 PM
I do. Gimme one hard shell with ground beef and cheese and a plate of those chip dealies with tomato pepper sauce. Oh yea and one sweet sour drink with extra salt.
always like that meal of white rice and red beans with strips of seasoned beef topped with sour cream all in a soft white flour wrap.... Yum yummy...
brettmojo
02-18-2009, 02:30 PM
[QUOTE If this is a legitimate language why don't all words translate?
i love how this sentence starts off offensive and then just turns into a nonsensical question that doesn't make sense on various levels. are you aware of the amount of words that do not translate over all the languages? or that even words that do translate still don't translate with the same meaning? i'm going to go on a limb and say you don't...
but it's good that you even have to ask if Spanish is a "legitimate" language, let me guess you've only lived in america but know for a fact it is the best country in the world without ever going anywhere else. that would seem to fit w/ your logic
adios[/quote]
I don't see how it was offensive but whatever go ahead and reach a little farther there.
I based the question on a couple things. I've seen quite a few subtitled movies in Spanish, Italian, German, Japanese and French movies and have been around Hispanics all my life and this is what I've observed. I understand certain words don't translate however the sheer number of instances I've heard really, for lack of a better term, less than exotic words just expressed in English that I've always wondered. Now maybe the people around are bad examples, that's fine. Same thing with Spanish television, movies whatever... Just what I've observed.
Maybe the version of spanish spoken in the U.S. is the issue seeing the number of variations of the language. There is language between the variations themselves that don't translate apparently.
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