Lets talk about Jobs

[sr71blackbird]

Today at work I was paying my bills during my lunch hour. I had my check book and was writing checks and stuffing envelopes when it was noticed by a few people over the lunch hour. Two of them wondered why if I am such a "computer guy" why I do not pay my bills online. I said back to them that I pay my bills this way because I want to keep people employed. They did not understand what I was talking about. I explained that when I mail in my bills and I put a stamp on it and send it though the mail, that I am helping the post office, which employs postal workers. When my bill arrives at the company that I am paying, people have to open the envelope and process my payment, and that keeps them employed.
Very few people seemed to consider this and said they do not care about the employment situation of others, and that they do not like spending the postage or some bullshit about wasting paper or whatever. All these people have children. I said, what are your kids going to do when they grow up? If less and less people feel the need to keep other people employed, just what do you think our growing population will do for work?

What are your thoughts on this?



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[Sinestro]

Spend, Spend Spend!!

Spend money on the stock market. Spend money on new cars and spend money on whatever you like. If we do that, the economy will get better.

[ToiletCrusher]

Let's not. I have nothing good to contribute.

[Liverspot]

Is that Michelle Obama on the far right? (of the picture)

[midwestjeff]

If less and less people feel the need to keep other people employed, just what do you think our growing population will do for work?

What are your thoughts on this?

If people were capable of honestly caring for the employment/welfare of
their fellow men then socialism would be more than just a good theory.

[sr71blackbird]

I have a feeling that there are more people out there who think like me than it seems.

[SatCam]

You are quite simple minded my friend.


Do you hope it snows so the town has to pay the plow guys overtime?

[sr71blackbird]

Not at all. How is it simple minded? I am talking about living in such a way that enables others to be employed. When I go to the store, I pay at a register that is manned, rather than opting for the self serve register.

[lleeder]

I throw garbage out the window of my car so the town will employ people to pick that shit up.

[sr71blackbird]

We think alike! See??

[Bob Impact]

If people were capable of honestly caring for the employment/welfare of
their fellow men then socialism would be more than just a good theory.

Socialism fails because it doesn't work, let me ask you this, who cares about someone more, the person who walks by a bum and says "He can't do anything, so I'll give him some money." or the person who walks by the same bum and sees what he could be as a human being? The first sees the bum as a worthless rotter, the second sees the bum as a noble human being who is capable of self sustaining life.

As far as others jobs my priority is me first then the rest of the earth in order of how much I care for them. In general I do care that others are working, for all of the reasons laid out in the OP.

[Recyclerz]

Not at all. How is it simple minded? I am talking about living in such a way that enables others to be employed. When I go to the store, I pay at a register that is manned, rather than opting for the self serve register.

I think I get what you are trying to say but your examples aren't illustrating your point very well. Your first example describes a job that probably has already been farmed out to a prison or offshored to India. The cashier one makes more sense but I would put the question this way - Are you willing to pay more for food that is locally grown on a family farm than you would for chow that comes out of a agricultural factory and is sold at Wal-Mart? Are you willing to shop at a Mom & Pop store and have less of a selection and probably pay a bit more than you would at a big box discounter just to keep the local business going?

In recent years the answer that most Americans have been giving is no. We'll see if the current crisis changes attitudes and behaviors.

[JackieJokeMan]

What are your thoughts on this?

The rules of the forum prevent me from giving my thoughts.

[bigredd]

The rules of the forum prevent me from giving my thoughts.

There are rules? I'll be damned. I guess I should take some time and read up. I wonder if MikeyBoy would print and snailmail me a copy so I could pay to have someone read them to me.

[Thomas Merton]

I think I get your bit

So all the deadbeats who cant pay their mortgages are creating federal jobs to dole out the stimulus money, right? :unsure:

[Mullenax]

I still do paper bills
(because I don't always have the automatic withdrawl funds)
and I like the post office

[~Katja~]

I do online bill pay as it is the same as writing a check, without me buying a checkbook or a stamp. The bank still mails these payments to the recipient, so I do create work for a bank employee to do the work for me.

[Stankfoot]

When I go to shopping I refuse to return the cart to those "holding areas" like you're supposed to. Plenty of my friends in high school had jobs gathering the carts in parking lots.
I'm not putting some kid out of work!

[CountryBob]

I dont think about keeping other people in a job. Hell, no body worries about mine - so I take the easiest way - online banking. Its convenient - quick and you have confirmation that the payment will be in their hands.

[foodcourtdruide]

If people were capable of honestly caring for the employment/welfare of
their fellow men then socialism would be more than just a good theory.

You can say the same about capitalism.

[foodcourtdruide]

Socialism fails because it doesn't work, let me ask you this, who cares about someone more, the person who walks by a bum and says "He can't do anything, so I'll give him some money." or the person who walks by the same bum and sees what he could be as a human being? The first sees the bum as a worthless rotter, the second sees the bum as a noble human being who is capable of self sustaining life.

As far as others jobs my priority is me first then the rest of the earth in order of how much I care for them. In general I do care that others are working, for all of the reasons laid out in the OP.

Socialism fails because any social theory that treats itself as a dogmatic doctrine will fail. And your example is just a small piece of a huge reality. Not all people are capable of a self sustaining life.