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Posted by Allan Sniffen on February 26, 2009 at 21:26:27:

Ok... here's what I'm hearing (and please, keep in mind, this is informed rumor rather than fact):

1. Sirius is shuffling studios around to create space for O&A (in order to shut down the NYC XM studios). That means they're staying with satellite radio (ie. their contract will be renewed).

2. K-Rock is the more likely candidate for a format flip to "Amp" (CHR) than Fresh. If so, O&A will not be renewed by CBS-Radio next month. Consequently, O&A will return to being a satellite only show.

:bye:

[GreatAmericanZero]

y'know how, after the homeless charlie interview they had to apologize and then yelled at any listener saying they weren't sincere "Of course we were sincere! We're sorry and its bullshit you can't tell the difference when we are serious". And then, how months later they just started honestly saying "yeah that apology was bullshit, we were forced to say it. we didn't mean it"

If they become a satellite only show, i wonder how long it will take before they just flat out say "yeah...when we were doing the krock for the first half, sattelite for the second..it really didn't work". I understand that they want the extra money and its better for their career to do both but when one is gone they are smart enough broadcasters to know that they really didn't pull off that format successfully. Not saying that some broadcasters can, it really is a difficult task of doing both in a morning...but after years of this format it really didn't work. I'll gladly welcome a satellite only show

[Foster]

rumors are just facts that haven't been proven

[Dan 'Hampton]

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Posted by Allan Sniffen on February 26, 2009 at 21:26:27:

Ok... here's what I'm hearing (and please, keep in mind, this is informed rumor rather than fact):

1. Sirius is shuffling studios around to create space for O&A (in order to shut down the NYC XM studios). That means they're staying with satellite radio (ie. their contract will be renewed).

2. K-Rock is the more likely candidate for a format flip to "Amp" (CHR) than Fresh. If so, O&A will not be renewed by CBS-Radio next month. Consequently, O&A will return to being a satellite only show.

:bye:

You seriously needed to read that somewhere, it's been pretty obvious for about 6 months that this was the course of action.:thumbdown:

[styckx]

You seriously needed to read that somewhere, it's been pretty obvious for about 6 months that this was the course of action.:thumbdown:

It really hasn't.

[RhinoinMN]

I thought this was going to be about Fleetwood Mac.

[Judge Smails]

Did you hear the one about Fezzie?
Some say he must be gay.
I tried to argue but they said if he were straight he wouldn't talk that way.

[MC Pee Pants]

is it going to remain a 5 hour show, or are we going to get the usual satellite show of 9:30-10:45?

[SinA]

they're also going to FORCE listeners to listen to howard stern

[Freitag]

Does any regular fan care that O&A are on K-Rock? I mean, the promises of bigger guests pretty much feel apart... I would say that 80-90% of us would welcome them going back to SiriusXM full-time. As unstable as the SiriusXM thing is, their terrestrial radio prescence is 100x more unstable. At this point, we're just waiting for them to shut off the ventilator.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Does any regular fan care that O&A are on K-Rock? I mean, the promises of bigger guests pretty much feel apart... I would say that 80-90% of us would welcome them going back to SiriusXM full-time. As unstable as the SiriusXM thing is, their terrestrial radio prescence is 100x more unstable. At this point, we're just waiting for them to shut off the ventilator.

i'd be shocked if you could find one xm subscriber that wouldn't prefer they did XM full time

[Fallon]

i'd be shocked if you could find one xm subscriber that wouldn't prefer they did XM full time

Those were the best shows. They haven't been able to go all out on the hot topics to start the shows because of the limits of terrestrial radio.

I just hope they stay at the XM studios for one more week, I'm in town next Friday.

[midwestjeff]

I thought this was going to be about Fleetwood Mac.

Yeah, me too, I haven't been this disappointed since that Tusk thread that was actually about elephants.

[brettmojo]

This would make me really happy.

[SP1!]

It really hasn't.

Does any regular fan care that O&A are on K-Rock? I mean, the promises of bigger guests pretty much feel apart... I would say that 80-90% of us would welcome them going back to SiriusXM full-time. As unstable as the SiriusXM thing is, their terrestrial radio prescence is 100x more unstable. At this point, we're just waiting for them to shut off the ventilator.

Well since terrestrial is canceling shows no matter if they have decent ratings or not it should have been an obvious course of action, personally the terrestrial side has gotten a lot better lately but I know its probably done soon. I just hope they stay on XM for as long as they can.

[lleeder]

i'd be shocked if you could find one xm subscriber that wouldn't prefer they did XM full time

Does any regular fan care that O&A are on K-Rock? I mean, the promises of bigger guests pretty much feel apart... I would say that 80-90% of us would welcome them going back to SiriusXM full-time. As unstable as the SiriusXM thing is, their terrestrial radio prescence is 100x more unstable. At this point, we're just waiting for them to shut off the ventilator.

I like K-rock cause it allows for a casual non super fan to call the show. There are many callers on the K-rock side that aren't XM subscribers. They often get involved during racial discussions or call when they want to complain about O&A. It has set up some very good situations that wouldn't have occured on XM.

[Drunky McBetidont]

I like K-rock cause it allows for a casual non super fan to call the show. There are many callers on the K-rock side that aren't XM subscribers. They often get involved during racial discussions or call when they want to complain about O&A. It has set up some very good situations that wouldn't have occured on XM.

if they really push sirri 197 then we might get similar hayseed callers, mancow or bubba or whatever. and rnf have had their share of callers to rip on while xm only. remember, the competition is now a partner. and there is always drunken lleeder.

[Scarlet Spider]

I like Opie and Anthony. That Jim is funny. Very funny.

[STC-Dub]

They are not doing 5 hour shows if they are off of terrestrial radio. Perhaps 4 hours but not 5.

[lleeder]

Perhaps less than that Jim.

[STC-Dub]

Aaaallllllriight.

[underdog]

They are not doing 5 hour shows if they are off of terrestrial radio. Perhaps 4 hours but not 5.

And? 4 hours is plenty for a radio show. Expecting O&A to do 5 -6 hours of good radio a day is crazy. 4 quality hours would be awesome.

[S0S]

Does any regular fan care that O&A are on K-Rock? I mean, the promises of bigger guests pretty much feel apart... I would say that 80-90% of us would welcome them going back to SiriusXM full-time. As unstable as the SiriusXM thing is, their terrestrial radio prescence is 100x more unstable. At this point, we're just waiting for them to shut off the ventilator.

I like K-rock cause it allows for a casual non super fan to call the show. There are many callers on the K-rock side that aren't XM subscribers. They often get involved during racial discussions or call when they want to complain about O&A. It has set up some very good situations that wouldn't have occured on XM.

I prefer the show more now than what it was. They are getting more and better guests, the show has non-fanboy callers, and is like the wnew era that so many snobbish geeks pleasure themselves remembering only the good parts to. It is as good a show they have done.

Also, If you are paying attention to radio outside of satellite, Terresterial radio as a whole is firing off many of its non-right talk shows. Besides the economic slump, there is a huge presence of special interest/FCC censorship and the commies are trying to force their views on the shows that are profitable which is hurting the future of commercial radio. If they do get fired, I don't think they will rationalize it as they did wrong but the corporate side did wrong in these tough economic times.

:bye:


And if you don't like the show as it is now, I doubt you would like it anymore afterwards, Ron&Fez forbid, they get canned .
:smoke:

[MisterSmith]

Did you hear the one about Fezzie?
Some say he must be gay.
I tried to argue but they said if he were straight he wouldn't talk that way.

Ah, The Social Club (a.k.a. The Timex Social Club, before the cease and desist from Timex). :thumbup:

[Foster]

Ah, The Social Club (a.k.a. The Timex Social Club, before the cease and desist from Timex). :thumbup:

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for the younger folks

[GreatAmericanZero]

And if you don't like the show as it is now, I doubt you would like it anymore [/I]afterwards, Ron&Fez forbid, they get canned .
:smoke:


i disagree, i listen to the XM show every single day. i could care less about the first three hours..if i catch it, i catch it. So if they became XM exclusive, it would be double the show i do enjoy and want to listen to and none of the show that i feel is mediocre.


I prefer the show more now than what it was. They are getting more and better guests, the show has non-fanboy callers, and is like the wnew era that so many snobbish geeks pleasure themselves remembering only the good parts to. It is as good a show they have done.




having "non-fanboy" callers seems like such a small thing and something that really isn't even focused on that much....with all the other positives that would come from having an XM only show, this one point is such a slight, if insignificant negative one. It seems that R&F would be way more effected with having nonfan callers because they rely on the phonecalls more yet we all love R&F

As for the better guests we are getting...who? 50 Cent was a satellite guest...I can't remember a great interview on the Krock side? Mike Meyers was months ago and not a great interview..same with ludacris. Who are these great Krock guests that would alter the show on a consistent basis that its worth them staying on that platform?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I prefer the show more now than what it was. They are getting more and better guests, the show has non-fanboy callers, and is like the wnew era that so many snobbish geeks pleasure themselves remembering only the good parts to. It is as good a show they have done.


I find it quite humorous you think fanboys are detrimental to the show and then make the outlandish claim that the show is as good as they have ever done.

You know, deep down, that this is so far from the truth it's laughable. I am far from a "WNEW days snob", but even I know that the quality of the show has suffered because of the terrestrial portion.


Also, If you are paying attention to radio outside of satellite, Terresterial radio as a whole is firing off many of its non-right talk shows.



Define "non-right". Do you mean "hot talk"? If you're talking about left-leaning shows, that's primarily from the failure of Air America on a whole. If you're talking about "hot talk", that's primarily from CBS pulling the final plugs from the Free-FM experiment, which was a bad idea to begin with.

Besides the economic slump, there is a huge presence of special interest/FCC censorship and the commies are trying to force their views on the shows that are profitable which is hurting the future of commercial radio. If they do get fired, I don't think they will rationalize it as they did wrong but the corporate side did wrong in these tough economic times.


The FCC levies fines, but they don't have any power on if someone gets fired. FCC moves at a glacial pace. The special interest groups mail the FCC, but they have realized the power is going after corporate, NOT the FCC.

The thing is this. I personally think, in my heart of hearts, that CBS was looking for a way to get rid of Imus. He's notoriously hard to work for and with, and the nappy headed ho situation gave them the exit they needed.

Besides, getting rid of Imus may actually help WFAN (and commercial radio) in the long run. The replacement show is doing much better in certain demos.

Commercial radio is dying. And as the economy gets worse and worse, so will commercial radio. It's still crazy bloated and it's going to get to the point where a LOT of stations are going to either implode or start simulcasting to stay afloat.



And if you don't like the show as it is now, I doubt you would like it anymore [/I]afterwards, Ron&Fez forbid, they get canned .
:smoke:


Do you really believe the things you say? I want to hear the logic of this.

I like O&A but I don't want to listen live because of the commercial breaks.