How stupid are your tunes making you?

[Judge Smails]

Granted, this is not exactly scientific but what the hell:


Virgil Griffith (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/149493-science-sez-lil-wayne-makes-you-stupid-sufjan-and-radiohead-make-you-smart) is a 25-year-old grad student at Caltech, and in his spare time he makes elaborate charts comparing people's SAT scores to their tastes in music and books. And you know what that means: Caltech grad students have way too much spare time. (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/149493-science-sez-lil-wayne-makes-you-stupid-sufjan-and-radiohead-make-you-smart)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/scubastza/Blog%20Stuff/musicthatmakesyoudum2bla.png

[drusilla]

who the hell is sufjan stevens?

[tele7]

Soca fan since day 1

[Sue_Bender]

Where's Leonard Cohen?

[TooLowBrow]

Where's Leonard Cohen?

he's at lunch you stupid fuck



i'm gonna tabulate peoples FAT scores and im gonna put sue bender slightly behind crisco

shes just as fattening but i'm taking off points for ugliness

[instrument]

Love some sulfjan, thank you for a song inspired by john wayne gacey sir.

[boosterp]

This is not bad for a student but his methods seem a bit flawed. It is good for entertainment value though.

[Kublakhan61]

This is not bad for a student but his methods seem a bit flawed. It is good for entertainment value though.

Please explain.

[britneypablo]

<font color="deeppink"> I listen normally only listen to that Beethoven and thats when i take standardized tests....but i deviate and listen to some of that Mozart character...those are the time i post

[NewYorkDragons80]

I match up with the higher end of the U2 group almost precisely. Seems fairly accurate at first glance.

[boosterp]

Please explain.

His methods were a basic survey based study which can be fairly accurate if you have enough people to answer and not asking for specific recall i.e. what was your favorite band when you took the SATs. I do not feel like finding the WSJ article again, but asking someone what their favorite band is, then having about 100 people, and comparing it to their SAT score has flaws such as recalling what your favorite band was at the time you took the test and having to few respondents (recall past a week or 2 is a pain in the ass). There is a huge margin of error.

The way I would design this study is to pick 100 students right before they take the SAT, design a questionnaire that not only asks (besides age and sex) their favorite band, but asks for their 2nd and 3rd choices, and who was their favorite band prior to the current one. This gives you a small amount of historical data and adds to your overall analysis such as music type, etc. Once the SAT scores are back, I would ask not only the score but use my questionnaire again (because it is 2-3 months since they took the test) so it adds even more validity in a sense. Based on this information one can perform a simple statistical analysis using something that in simple terms equates to averages (a bit more than that but I want to keep it simple) and a pass/fail method (another simple method).

[Kublakhan61]

<font color="deeppink"> I listen normally only listen to that Beethoven and thats when i take standardized tests....but i deviate and listen to some of that Mozart character

Salieri, will you ever win?

[britneypablo]

Salieri, will you ever win?

<font color="deeppink"> you watch too much Amadeus ;)

[IMSlacker]

who the hell is sufjan stevens?

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[burrben]

the white stripes arent on the chart, therefore its an invalid theory and caltech is for queers.

[Thebazile78]

<font color="deeppink"> you watch too much Amadeus ;)

How could you not?

Tom Hulce is adorable in a manic, goofy-lookin' kind of way.

[JerseyRich]

who the hell is sufjan stevens?

Quite honestly, the only man to release an album in the past 5 years that made me rethink everything that I've ever done in my life.

Come on, feel the Illinoise.
Learn it.
Live it.
Love it.

[Aggie]

HA! I listen to music on every spectrum of that chart and I got an 1100 (out of 1600) on the SAT's. I guess it's right.

Isn't there some new fangled scoring now for the test. I think it started the year my sister took them.

Quite honestly, the only man to release an album in the past 5 years that made me rethink everything that I've ever done in my life.

Come on, feel the Illinoise.
Learn it.
Live it.
Love it.

I'm learning slowly, now that I have the material!

[JerseyRich]

HA! I listen to music on every spectrum of that chart and I got an 1100 (out of 1600) on the SAT's. I guess it's right.

Isn't there some new fangled scoring now for the test. I think it started the year my sister took them.



I'm learning slowly, now that I have the material!


Soon you will be able to snatch the pebble from my hand, Grasshopper.

[hammersavage]

Soon you will be able to snatch the pebble from my hand, Grasshopper.

Pervert.


I'm right in the Sufjan, Counting Crows, U2, Radiohead, Guster, Ben Folds area. I either like these artists or they're my favorite so I'd say this is accurate.

[Thebazile78]

...

Isn't there some new fangled scoring now for the test. I think it started the year my sister took them.
...

Yeah, now you get 400 points for writing your name correctly.

[Furtherman]

Jazz below 1000?

Billy Joel above 1000?


FAIL.

[boosterp]

Yeah, now you get 400 points for writing your name correctly.

No way? I hope this is an exaggeration.

When I took my SATs I already know I was going into the military, just did not tell my parents yet. I had been up all night drinking with my friends, got home and practiced how to walk in my driveway before going inside because my mom would stay up until my brother and I got home, and passed out after setting the alarm. Woke up at 0930 and I am certain I was still legally drunk, did not shower, jumped in my truck and took a couple Tums. I think I made it through the first section of the SATs before just darkening random bubbles. When I left the center I puked right outside the doors, got in my truck, swallowed some more Tums, and went home to take a nap before the evening began again. My mom was pissed when the scores cam in the mail, I think I got around a 1000 and we both knew I could have done better.

[JerseyRich]

No way? I hope this is an exaggeration.

When I took my SATs I already know I was going into the military, just did not tell my parents yet. I had been up all night drinking with my friends, got home and practiced how to walk in my driveway before going inside because my mom would stay up until my brother and I got home, and passed out after setting the alarm. Woke up at 0930 and I am certain I was still legally drunk, did not shower, jumped in my truck and took a couple Tums. I think I made it through the first section of the SATs before just darkening random bubbles. When I left the center I puked right outside the doors, got in my truck, swallowed some more Tums, and went home to take a nap before the evening began again. My mom was pissed when the scores cam in the mail, I think I got around a 1000 and we both knew I could have done better.
:down:
I guess I shouldn't post my SAT scores here then.

[TheMojoPin]

No way? I hope this is an exaggeration.

I thought there was always a base score for filling out the ID info correctly.

The total is out 2400 now.

[boosterp]

:down:
I guess I shouldn't post my SAT scores here then.

Why?

I thought there was always a base score for filling out the ID info correctly.

The total is out 2400 now.

2400?!?

[Snoogans]

Why?



2400?!?

they added a third section to the test. So instead of 800 800 its now 800 800 800

[boosterp]

they added a third section to the test. So instead of 800 800 its now 800 800 800

Holy fuck, glad I took mine 17 years ago. I do not know if I could of survived in my condition then if I had to wade through 3 sections. They'd of had to hauled me off in an ambulance.

[Aggie]

:down:
I guess I shouldn't post my SAT scores here then.

Hey, I posted mine and I was only 100 points higher. I'm a smart girl but those tests kicked my ass. I even had a personal math section tutor and still got a 500 on that section. I suck at the arithmetic. (I can't even spell it.)

[Enabler]

I managed a 1290/1600 and I cant even read this stupid chart. Smart people like Beethoven? Is that the gist?

[TheMojoPin]

They've basically combined the SAT and SAT II. Sort of.

I got a 1320 back in the day.

[hammersavage]

I got a 1600. Then.....I had my accident.

I would have given a nut for an essay portion, the one thing I can really do well is bullshit and write.

[Snoogans]

i also had 1320/1600

Shame I was so fuckin lazy

[TheMojoPin]

I got a 1600. Then.....I had my accident.

I would have given a nut for an essay portion, the one thing I can really do well is bullshit and write.

I know, right? I feel gypped.

[Aggie]

I know, right? I feel gypped.

Me too! I kick ass at essay tests. That's how I got so many A's in college. All my friends hated them.

[midwestjeff]

I only took the ACT.

The SAT is for queers.

[TheMojoPin]

I only took the ACT.

The SAT is for queers.

I took both, like a real man.

[epo]

The music of Coldplay is much dumber than indicated on that chart.

[drjoek]

They make kids take the writing part of the SAT (ie pay extra) and yet NO colleges is using the results. They claim there's not enough data to make it worthwhile. Its a complete waste of time and money.

[drjoek]

They've basically combined the SAT and SAT II. Sort of.

I got a 1320 back in the day.



Not at all the SAT II is a subject test the new SAT is the two sections plus a writing sample.

[TheMojoPin]

Not at all the SAT II is a subject test the new SAT is the two sections plus a writing sample.

That's why I said sort of. They added writing as well as subjects that had previously been relegated to the SAT II.

[boosterp]

Now, the first time I took a real IQ test and my military ASVAB I kicked major ass. Guess I was more serious then.

[drjoek]

That's why I said sort of. They added writing as well as subjects that had previously been relegated to the SAT II.



The SAT IIs are still around as subject tests. They're required at most of the elite schools.

[SatCam]

I didnt take the SATs so can I just match my musical tastes up with an SAT score?

[TheMojoPin]

The SAT IIs are still around as subject tests. They're required at most of the elite schools.

Yesssssss, I didn't say they got rid of them.

[Sue_Bender]

he's at lunch you stupid fuck



i'm gonna tabulate peoples FAT scores and im gonna put sue bender slightly behind crisco

shes just as fattening but i'm taking off points for ugliness


Low Brow, indeed! :bye:

[britneypablo]

<font color="deeppink"> I raped my SATs but my GRE's....well not so much....I actually became more stupiderist when i got out of college

[RoseBlood]

I'm pretty sure I scored a 700 on my SAT's (borderline retard). But I use 85% of my stupid brain as opposed to you smartasses using less than 10% of yours, so I win by default.

What was this stupid post about anyway? :unsure:

Oh yeah, I didn't read this thread because not only am I a retard, I am lazy.

"How Stupid Are Your Tunes Making You?".. the chicken or the egg?
This "study" is severely flawed, but that's obvious.
I refuse to live in a world where Nickleback fans are said to be smarter than Jazz and Classical.. :laugh:

[CofyCrakCocaine]

The qualification test the Marines gave me was the proverbial money in the bank. 5x5=???

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Yeah, well Nickleback is for queers and Canadians mostly. That would explain the high IQs of their fans. Not that I'm actually double checking the chart to see if Rose is right, I'm just taking her word for it.

[TooLowBrow]

beethoven is high but classical is low?

i think this shows that although beethoven listeners scored high, that people who just listen a generic 'classical' as their favorites scored lower

therefore the 'classical' listeners dont really listen to classical music, they just list 'classical' to appear smart

[sailor]

400 was always the base.

1390, since we're throwing these numbers out.

[boosterp]

<font color="deeppink"> I raped my SATs but my GRE's....well not so much....I actually became more stupiderist when i got out of college

What did you score on the GRE?

[TooLowBrow]

What did you score on the GRE?

GREat:lol:

[boosterp]

GREat:lol:

Silly man! I need to taike mine and hope I score around a 400 which is average for big universities.

[britneypablo]

Silly man! I need to taike mine and hope I score around a 400 which is average for big universities.

<font color="deeppink"> I need to dig up that paper work...i think i just filed it away bc i figured id just take it again whenever i got the money....but this time id study for it bc not using a calculator and being timed was what threw me for a loop....im smart im just not fast smart ;)

[Knowledged_one]

1340 - 670 verbal 670 math and this was pre calculator i forget what i got on the tswe

[Stankfoot]

Granted, this is not exactly scientific but what the hell:


Virgil Griffith (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/149493-science-sez-lil-wayne-makes-you-stupid-sufjan-and-radiohead-make-you-smart) is a 25-year-old grad student at Caltech, and in his spare time he makes elaborate charts comparing people's SAT scores to their tastes in music and books. And you know what that means: Caltech grad students have way too much spare time. (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/149493-science-sez-lil-wayne-makes-you-stupid-sufjan-and-radiohead-make-you-smart)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/scubastza/Blog%20Stuff/musicthatmakesyoudum2bla.png

racist :wink:

[IWOWedGregBrady]

beethoven is high but classical is low?
First thing I noticed!

I got a 1430 but my musical tastes indicate I should be in the 1100 range. Interesting study tho.

[IMSlacker]

beethoven is high but classical is low?

i think this shows that although beethoven listeners scored high, that people who just listen a generic 'classical' as their favorites scored lower

therefore the 'classical' listeners dont really listen to classical music, they just list 'classical' to appear smart

It's based on what they listed under music on their facebook page.

Griffith "used aggregated Facebook data about the favorite bands and books among students of various colleges and plotted them against the average SAT scores at those schools, creating a tongue-in-cheek statistical look at taste and intelligence."

So, yeah, non-specific people who listed "classical" or "jazz" are dumber (go to dumber schools) than people who list specifics.

[Snoogans]

They make kids take the writing part of the SAT (ie pay extra) and yet NO colleges is using the results. They claim there's not enough data to make it worthwhile. Its a complete waste of time and money.

lucky for you