not happy about O&A getting nuked by CBS? let your voices be heard

[made cummsies]

CBS Radio - Media Contacts
Karen L. Mateo
Vice President, Communications
( 212) 846 7638

Allison Mandara
Communications Coordinator
212-846-3906

Dana McClintock
Senior Vice President,
CBS Communications Group
(212) 975 1077

use responsibly and at your own discretion :devil2:

[Hottub]

This all worked so well in the past.
Be dialing.

[disneyspy]

i refuse to listen to k rock from now on

[Tall_James]

I'm sure these three women had nothing to do with the decision.

Please keep the misogyny to a minimum.

[Don Stugots]

i refuse to listen to k rock from now on

me either. oh wait, i havent since R&F were let go.


p.s. try sending flowers.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Im starting an organization called PAC

People
Againt
Cost effective Corporate Decisions

[Tall_James]

Perhaps you should light a paper bag filled with dog poop and leave it in the lobby of Black Rock.

That'll learn 'em.

[Drunky McBetidont]

is pat from moonachi going to run over our am/fm radios with his van or do i need to use a sledge?


http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/smashed_radio.jpg

[biozombie]

I drew a smiley face on my AM/FM radio before I gave it a black eye. That oughta set things straight.

[boosterp]

Let the pests reunite! [/sarcasm]

[disneyspy]

over the air radio is for people that are less than us,they dont have disposible income and national advertisers are retarded spending their advertising dollars on them.buy only xm 202 merchandise and nothin you hear on terrestial radio,that'll show em

[biozombie]

Let the pests reunite! [/sarcasm]

I've got the fucking DeLorean set for 2005, I'll pick you up on my way there. (Bring your own wraparound shades...)

[Foster]

over the air radio is for people that are less than us,they dont have disposible income and national advertisers are retarded spending their advertising dollars on them.buy only xm 202 merchandise and nothin you hear on terrestial radio,that'll show em

amen brother

[STC-Dub]

over the air radio is for people that are less than us,they dont have disposible income and national advertisers are retarded spending their advertising dollars on them.buy only xm 202 merchandise and nothin you hear on terrestial radio,that'll show em

But we need stuff besides porn, computer backups, credit card help and accessories for IPods! I guess we could eat ribs but that would get expensive after a while.

[underdog]

I hope people run over their car radios while they're still in cars this time.

[sailor]

This all worked so well in the past.
Be dialing.

should we send flowers?

[Don Stugots]

should we send flowers?

i said that already.


why do anything? why not just be of the thinking "it was fun while it lasted"?

[Drunky McBetidont]

done and done. i just sent multiple emails from multiple accounts to sirius xm telling them that if o&a aren't on k rock, then i am cancelling my sub.

oh, and i am boycotting best of sirius package. :drunk:

[ToiletCrusher]

Exactly, it was fun while it lasted. No offense to O&A but if the station collapsed entirely instead of flipping formats and trying to remain somewhat profitable, more people would be out of jobs. We should be somewhat happy that not as many people are losing work in this terrible economy as there actually are.

[made cummsies]

If you support O&A (and I know you all do) here's another venue to make sure CBS Radio is aware of your feelings:

http://www.petitiononline.com/oaradio/

[Drunky McBetidont]

If you support O&A (and I know you all do) here's another venue to make sure CBS Radio is aware of your feelings:

http://www.petitiononline.com/oaradio/

fmjeff?

[ToiletCrusher]

If you support O&A (and I know you all do) here's another venue to make sure CBS Radio is aware of your feelings:

http://www.petitiononline.com/oaradio/

Less than 10 signing it? I am surprised at the pests!

[midwestjeff]

why not just be of the thinking "it was fun while it lasted"?

Fun for who?

[Goatweed]

lemme guess, there's 5,000 signatures already?

[ToiletCrusher]

lemme guess, there's 5,000 signatures already?

Some of them seemed to use potty language, which I would never endorse.

[Bob Impact]

I'm gonna push for the Midnight Rider Radio.

[landarch]

I missed most of the show this morning and Krock website's O&A link doesn't work. I guess that's it for them on terrestrial (fingers crossed)? Perhaps the satellite side can get better now.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I missed most of the show this morning and Krock website's O&A link doesn't work. I guess that's it for them on terrestrial (fingers crossed)? Perhaps the satellite side can get better now.

http://www.923krock.com/pages/590943.php still works for me (this is what it was bookmarked under)

[rick9669]

lemme guess, there's 5,000 signatures already?

66 for your information.....:dry:

[boosterp]

I've got the fucking DeLorean set for 2005, I'll pick you up on my way there. (Bring your own wraparound shades...)

:lol::lol::lol:

[MikeB]

O&A Firrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!


for realz dis time

[GreatAmericanZero]

is this the first firing that wasn't from a "Stunt gone too far"?

[ToiletCrusher]

is this the first firing that wasn't from a "Stunt gone too far"?

don't forget all the stations they were dropped from. Those are technically firings too.

[GreatAmericanZero]

don't forget all the stations they were dropped from. Those are technically firings too.

yeah..i thought about that, but their show still went on. This is like, a firing where the show won't go on since i think the extreme lack of content restriction on XM makes it its own separate show (and why i never thought doing the two shows together ever flowed organically)

[epo]

use responsibly and at your own discretion :devil2:

That is the worst idea ever. Contacting CBS's public relations PR team in a negative fashion would only serve to sully any business relationship that O&A may have with CBS in the future.

[GreatAmericanZero]

That is the worst idea ever. Contacting CBS's public relations PR team in a negative fashion would only serve to sully any business relationship that O&A may have with CBS in the future.

i don't even think so...i think they don't care either way. I'm sure they are expecting many negative feedback from O&A fans and NY rock fans a like, they won't even take a glance at any of this stuff


and, since the beginning of the internet i've signed many online petitions..i don't think it ever did anything in my lifetime

[landarch]

http://www.923krock.com/pages/590943.php still works for me (this is what it was bookmarked under)

and the show summary says your.moms.box. goodbye.

[made cummsies]

I'm sure these three women had nothing to do with the decision.
For the record, despite having a woman's name Dana McClintock is a he. And regardless of the individuals who were responsible to make this decision Mr. McClintock, Karen and Allison are all listed (in the public domain) as the contacts for CBS Radio. If the company isn't prepared to stand behind their decisions then I'd suggest they not make that information readily available.

[midwestjeff]

If the company isn't prepared to stand behind their decisions

I have the feeling that they are more than willing to stand by their decision.

[made cummsies]

If CBS Radio has those convictions then GREAT!

I'm sure they're advertising department won't mind hearing from people who agree. They can be contacted at:
altitude@cbsradio.com or 212-846-3939

[underdog]

If CBS Radio has those convictions then GREAT!

I'm sure they're advertising department won't mind hearing from people who agree. They can be contacted at:
altitude@cbsradio.com or 212-846-3939

Just stop. There's no reason for them to still be on terrestrial radio. They had already been dropped from ALL but one of their syndications. Stop acting like they were wrongly dropped from CBS.

[GreatAmericanZero]

if a radio station completely flips formats to gear itself towards a totally different audience, would they even retain the same advertisers?

Like, if I was Budweiser and I advertise on a rock station, they can't just switch the tables on me and all of a sudden make me pay to run my ads on a station that isn't my demo. I think the sales staff has to essentially start from scratch then, no?

i don't know how it works

[The Ogre]

So lemme get this straight. O & A were tanking in the ratings, getting booted off a ton of affiliates, and generally stinking up the joint. The "A" half of the equation has also become more of a racist asshole than I believed he could ever be, turning off a whole lot of listeners(except the braintrust over at Wackbag of course. saying nigger is funny a-yup).

Anyway, all this leads to me being expected to annoy some dude over at CBS? Should I scream RAMONE into the phone? Should I tell him somebody named made cummsies sent me?

I might just send him a chocolate mousse cake for the effort. This can only help O & A improve their show now that one of the safety nets is gone.

[kdubya]

Just stop. There's no reason for them to still be on terrestrial radio. They had already been dropped from ALL but one of their syndications. Stop acting like they were wrongly dropped from CBS.

I agree completely, their days have been numbered on CBS for a while. I don't even think O and A were really caught of guard. Their main concern seemed to be the fashion in which it all happened, not that it happened.

[monkfish]

I wonder who will have more non-fatal lobby shootings now in 2009, HOT 97 or 92.3 NOW FM.

Remember, it's not attempted murder if you shoot him in the ass.

[Slumbag]

If you support O&A (and I know you all do) here's another venue to make sure CBS Radio is aware of your feelings:

http://www.petitiononline.com/oaradio/

Looks like it's going well.
211. Dominic Barbara-might not be the best time, but anthony cumia owes me 150k.

220. styckx -I wish I kept frunkisssssss.com open now

238. Master Po -The gentlemen deserve what they have brought on to themselves, that is what Dougout Doug has informed me at ftb. thank you for your services

239. Lee Mels- I'm going to destroy some clothing if they don't get re hired
And those are the nicer ones.

It sucks, but at least they still have a show.

[GreatAmericanZero]

So lemme get this straight. O & A were tanking in the ratings, getting booted off a ton of affiliates, and generally stinking up the joint. The "A" half of the equation has also become more of a racist asshole than I believed he could ever be, turning off a whole lot of listeners(except the braintrust over at Wackbag of course. saying nigger is funny a-yup).

Anyway, all this leads to me being expected to annoy some dude over at CBS? Should I scream RAMONE into the phone? Should I tell him somebody named made cummsies sent me?

I might just send him a chocolate mousse cake for the effort. This can only help O & A improve their show now that one of the safety nets is gone.

you make the issue seems so logical


so i guess XM was the safety net all along, after Homeless Charlie it was believed to be terrestrial. What an interesting end to that plot line

[Devo37]

Im starting an organization called PAC

People
Againt
Cost effective Corporate Decisions

not sure where they are in their contracts, but radio stations seem to love spending millions of dollars paying talk personalities not to be on the air. meanwhile, the music stations are franchised from city to city, with a bunch of idiot suits, who apparently don't even listen to music, deciding what gets played on the radio.

no wonder the whole industry is in trouble.

[monkfish]

not sure where they are in their contracts, but radio stations seem to love spending millions of dollars paying talk personalities not to be on the air. meanwhile, the music stations are franchised from city to city, with a bunch of idiot suits, who apparently don't even listen to music, deciding what gets played on the radio.

no wonder the whole industry is in trouble.



I think they were just about at the end of their CBS contract this time around, but you're right - they made the boys sit out (paid) for a while in the past...the same with Weaze.

[TooLowBrow]

I think they were just about at the end of their CBS contract this time around

Apr 14, 2008 ... Following last week's announcement that Opie & Anthony have renewed their contract with CBS,

i found that.. so... yeah

[conman823]

That is the worst idea ever. Contacting CBS's public relations PR team in a negative fashion would only serve to sully any business relationship that O&A may have with CBS in the future.

Oh Literal Epo!

[conman823]

not sure where they are in their contracts, but radio stations seem to love spending millions of dollars paying talk personalities not to be on the air. meanwhile, the music stations are franchised from city to city, with a bunch of idiot suits, who apparently don't even listen to music, deciding what gets played on the radio.

no wonder the whole industry is in trouble.



Isn't that really why a lot of industries are in trouble today?

I have always maintained that O&A's CBS show was dog-shit because they had their hands tied so badly by "suits" that there was no room for entertainment. My harshist critizism of it come from OPIE saying from the outset that "howard was unable to adapt" etc, then they proceeded to phone it in 10X worse then Stern EVER did.

Can't wait to hear how it all gets spun though.

I honestly believe that I will live to see a day where there is NO RADIO at this point. IPods and whats concidered alternative media venues will dominate and crush radio unless some new younger suits get in into the business and save it.

Uncle Mel will FAIL Sat Radio, because he is just that; an old suit.

[Devo37]

corporate lawyers and insurance lawyers are the ruination of American society.

in general, the over-litigious society we live in is destroying the concepts of 'fun' and 'responsibility'. lawyers should rot in hell (sorry, Mikeyboy, HTG, et al).

[made cummsies]

I'd like to give a great big FUCK YOU to the people on this forum who are enjoying today's events. O&A have shown nothing but support for Ron & Fez and despite your opinion of either Opie or Anthony I would have hoped that when they needed some of that support reciprocated you'd offer it or at least forgo the petty comments. There are enough threads on rf.net when you shitheels can spew about how you think they used to be better, or how you think they don't belong on FM, how you think Ant is a racist piece of shit, etc. can't you leave this one for those of us who enjoy both O&A and R&F?

Fuck sakes, I can appreciate that there are differing opinions but some of what I've read in this thread pisses me off. Think about how you'd react if R&F were cut down to 90 minutes a day? There would be calls, emails, faxes, smoke signals being sent to XM/Sirius demanding they return to the full three hours.

In closing, GO SCREW!!!!!!!!!!!!! :furious:

[Space Edge]

I'd like to give a great big FUCK YOU to the people on this forum who are enjoying today's events. O&A have shown nothing but support for Ron & Fez and despite your opinion of either Opie or Anthony I would have hoped that when they needed some of that support reciprocated you'd offer it or at least forgo the petty comments. There are enough threads on rf.net when you shitheels can spew about how you think they used to be better, or how you think they don't belong on FM, how you think Ant is a racist piece of shit, etc. can't you leave this one for those of us who enjoy both O&A and R&F?

Fuck sakes, I can appreciate that there are differing opinions but some of what I've read in this thread pisses me off. Think about how you'd react if R&F were cut down to 90 minutes a day? There would be calls, emails, faxes, smoke signals being sent to XM/Sirius demanding they return to the full three hours.

In closing, GO SCREW!!!!!!!!!!!!! :furious:

Sorry buddy the only support both O&A and R&F get from me is when I pay my Sirius/XM bill, other wise I could careless.

[joethebartender]

It gets old for the listeners too. Bye Bye Krock!

[conman823]

Sorry buddy the only support both O&A and R&F get from me is when I pay my Sirius/XM bill, other wise I could careless.

Hello exactly!!

Now that I'm paying for it again (fulltime) my bitching about show content will increase 10 fold. They should hope that my entertainment dollars are not used elsewhere, I'm sure there is a hooker who wouldn't mind my $15 a month.

Oh and before anyone says "yeah well your just one subscription duh duh duh", I will remind you that EVERY Sub at this point is like a precious gem.

I shall be entertained, lest my money be spent at a local Saloon!!

[The Ogre]

I am sorry made cummsies. In the future I will try to have more sympathy for the 50 year old who has a movie theater in his basement and thinks that all blacks are apes. O & A PARTYROCK!

[DOHO@HOME]

THE SHOW ALREADY IS MUCH GOODER:clap:
I'm so happy it's Xm only show now, I'm now getting what I pay for:tongue:

[GreatAmericanZero]

can't you leave this one for those of us who enjoy both O&A and R&F?

Fuck sakes, I can appreciate that there are differing opinions but some of what I've read in this thread pisses me off. Think about how you'd react if R&F were cut down to 90 minutes a day? There would be calls, emails, faxes, smoke signals being sent to XM/Sirius demanding they return to the full three hours.

In closing, GO SCREW!!!!!!!!!!!!! :furious:

how is this the R&F equivalent of them being cut down to 90mins? it would kinda make sense if O&A's show was cut to 2.5hours a day but that clearly isn't going to happen

the fact of the matter is, no one is really emotionally affected by this decision on this board (except you). I can't think of any user saying they didn't have satellite and only listen on FM. So you are asking us to be respectful and serious over a decision where people who pay for a service get atleast exactly the same product they did.

[Don Stugots]

I'd like to give a great big FUCK YOU to the people on this forum who are enjoying today's events. O&A have shown nothing but support for Ron & Fez and despite your opinion of either Opie or Anthony I would have hoped that when they needed some of that support reciprocated you'd offer it or at least forgo the petty comments. There are enough threads on rf.net when you shitheels can spew about how you think they used to be better, or how you think they don't belong on FM, how you think Ant is a racist piece of shit, etc. can't you leave this one for those of us who enjoy both O&A and R&F?

Fuck sakes, I can appreciate that there are differing opinions but some of what I've read in this thread pisses me off. Think about how you'd react if R&F were cut down to 90 minutes a day? There would be calls, emails, faxes, smoke signals being sent to XM/Sirius demanding they return to the full three hours.

In closing, GO SCREW!!!!!!!!!!!!! :furious:

Sorry buddy the only support both O&A and R&F get from me is when I pay my Sirius/XM bill, other wise I could careless.


i agree with Space Edge. I do my best to pay for my sub every month. Not much more I can do for now.

[GreatAmericanZero]

btw, Norton just said "I will miss the larger audience, but creatively i am so much happier to be here"

and then a whole discussion about how horrible being on regular radio was with the content restriction. They know whats better

[boosterp]

I'd like to give a great big FUCK YOU to the people on this forum who are enjoying today's events. O&A have shown nothing but support for Ron & Fez and despite your opinion of either Opie or Anthony I would have hoped that when they needed some of that support reciprocated you'd offer it or at least forgo the petty comments. There are enough threads on rf.net when you shitheels can spew about how you think they used to be better, or how you think they don't belong on FM, how you think Ant is a racist piece of shit, etc. can't you leave this one for those of us who enjoy both O&A and R&F?

Fuck sakes, I can appreciate that there are differing opinions but some of what I've read in this thread pisses me off. Think about how you'd react if R&F were cut down to 90 minutes a day? There would be calls, emails, faxes, smoke signals being sent to XM/Sirius demanding they return to the full three hours.

In closing, GO SCREW!!!!!!!!!!!!! :furious:

btw, Norton just said "I will miss the larger audience, but creatively i am so much happier to be here"

and then a whole discussion about how horrible being on regular radio was with the content restriction. They know whats better

Gaz, I could not have said it better, thanks.

[robot artist]

My robotic heart is so happy! If I believed in a God I would thank him.

We've got our XM show back at last - no longer the restrained, constricted, censored hybrid of a show that it became once it was hijacked by the CBS deal. My sympathies to the b-b-b-boys in terms of their quest for world radio domination, but I feel this is a big win for the listeners.

While I never felt that O+A were calling it in during the XM half of the show (as some have accused), I welcome the return to the relaxed, uncensored flow of a complete show from beginning to end, in one studio in one sitting - without the constant commercial breaks every 20 to 25 minutes, and the interruption of having to relocate to another studio in another building; not to mention the obvious FCC and corporate restrictions, which were becoming more and more ridiculous.

And maybe this even means no more of that fucking Lydia calling in with her low-rent analytical psycho-babble bullshit ~ I doubt she's paying for a subscription. Oh happy day!

[underdog]

I'd like to give a great big FUCK YOU to the people on this forum who are enjoying today's events. O&A have shown nothing but support for Ron & Fez and despite your opinion of either Opie or Anthony I would have hoped that when they needed some of that support reciprocated you'd offer it or at least forgo the petty comments. There are enough threads on rf.net when you shitheels can spew about how you think they used to be better, or how you think they don't belong on FM, how you think Ant is a racist piece of shit, etc. can't you leave this one for those of us who enjoy both O&A and R&F?

Fuck sakes, I can appreciate that there are differing opinions but some of what I've read in this thread pisses me off. Think about how you'd react if R&F were cut down to 90 minutes a day? There would be calls, emails, faxes, smoke signals being sent to XM/Sirius demanding they return to the full three hours.

In closing, GO SCREW!!!!!!!!!!!!! :furious:

Actually, when Ron and Fez were kicked off of FreeFM, there was no talk of protests or support or any of that shit from O&A or the hardcore O&A fans, even though most Ron and Fez fans stood up and spoke out when O&A got suspended from XM.

I love O&A and R&F, but I'm not stupid enough to think that the reason they were kicked off of CBS was anything more than horrible, horrible ratings.

[Don Stugots]

Hello exactly!!

Now that I'm paying for it again (fulltime) my bitching about show content will increase 10 fold. They should hope that my entertainment dollars are not used elsewhere, I'm sure there is a hooker who wouldn't mind my $15 a month.

Oh and before anyone says "yeah well your just one subscription duh duh duh", I will remind you that EVERY Sub at this point is like a precious gem.

I shall be entertained, lest my money be spent at a local Saloon!!


Hello Exactly InDEED!

[hydee]

I don't think a petition or emails or anything will really make CBS feel they made a bad decision. If CBS had any real remorse or thought they owed Opie and Anthony anything, they would have been a bit more professional about the transition process, and would have given them a real send off or at least a dignified one.

In the end they were relying on 3rd hand gossip from Erock , so I don't really think there is any heads hanging in shame at CBS this morning.

[AKA]

If you support O&A (and I know you all do)


Do you?

[AKA]

btw, Norton just said "I will miss the larger audience, but creatively i am so much happier to be here"

and then a whole discussion about how horrible being on regular radio was with the content restriction. They know whats better

Just as you predicted.

They remain hypocrites.

[AKA]

Actually, when Ron and Fez were kicked off of FreeFM, there was no talk of protests or support or any of that shit from O&A or the hardcore O&A fans, even though most Ron and Fez fans stood up and spoke out when O&A got suspended from XM.

QFT

[boosterp]

qft

X2

[AKA]

So, what happens to this Sinclair owned station?

http://www.96x.fm/x/schedule.shtml

Are they still tape delayed and after Mancow?

[paulisded]

Made Cumsie's an idiot.

[boosterp]

Made Cumsie's an idiot.

and Micr0. :lol:

[CurseoftheBambi]

I am sorry made cummsies. In the future I will try to have more sympathy for the 50 year old who has a movie theater in his basement and thinks that all blacks are apes. O & A PARTYROCK!

Now this is QFT for me!:thumbup:

and i was one of those fans out there who were protesting when they got suspended! So they get no more from me. Ant burnt that bridge of caring for me. I'm sure he has for others too.

[boosterp]

Now this is QFT for me!:thumbup:

and i was one of those fans out there who were protesting when they got suspended! So they get no more from me. Ant burnt that bridge of caring for me. I'm sure he has for others too.

I was not out there with y'all, but I was emailing, calling, and supporting PAC. I agree that Ant burned a bridge with me, and while I tire of his racist and gun shit he did sound good today and Jim was on fire.

[AKA]

I hear that Ron and Fez have BIG PLANS for O&A - not to worry!

[Manster72]

interesting note. Jimmy wasnt on last show on WNEW and yesterday we wasnt on last Krock show. reagan did last new show and bobby kelly did yesterday. more stupid trivia

[SPeeDy_Freak]

Come on pests.... get to smashing and torching your terrestrial radios in protest.

What a brilliant move by CBS bringing in a satellite radio program into syndication... and great move by XM for exposing a declining show to a mass market, further alienating your paying subscriber base.

Glad they failed.... way to go 0.0

[Fred from Brooklyn]

Now this is QFT for me!:thumbup:

and i was one of those fans out there who were protesting when they got suspended! So they get no more from me. Ant burnt that bridge of caring for me. I'm sure he has for others too.


It would be very easy for me to jump up like this at every Jew joke...do you? Or is it just the Black issue? I've been along side of you most of the way, we hit a fork in the road though when humor is bad because its aimed at you and not others for the moment.
Its easy to be offended if you want too. I appreciate Ant for his honesty in a time when being HONEST can mean you should not exist.
Either you like someone's humor or you don't. Quit making it PERSONAL.

[boosterp]

It would be very easy for me to jump up like this at every Jew joke...do you? Or is it just the Black issue? I've been along side of you most of the way, we hit a fork in the road though when humor is bad because its aimed at you and not others for the moment.
Its easy to be offended if you want too. I appreciate Ant for his honesty in a time when being HONEST can mean you should not exist.
Either you like someone's humor or you don't. Quit making it PERSONAL.

Are you really sure that's why he burned bridges Fred? I thought you were a little smarter than that.

[Fred from Brooklyn]

Are you really sure that's why he burned bridges Fred? I thought you were a little smarter than that.

Educate me...I'm an idiot

[Manster72]

can you be an idiot asking for education wouldnt an idiot justbe an idiot ....ohh wait sacasim i get it :drunk:

[TripleSkeet]

Meh, I dont know how anyone can listen to regular radio after listening to satellite anyway. After the first day of having an XM I could never go back. Its like having a whole movie library at your disposal but only watching movies Rated PG and lower.

Good to have them back solely on XM. FM radio is on their last legs anyway. I mean really, how many Hip Hop stations can one city really have???

Besides, as long as Ive got Ronnie B. 3 hours daily, thats all I need.

[boosterp]

Educate me...I'm an idiot

There was a period not long after the suspension that Ant continued to shit all over the fans, the various boards, and events that the fans were at. He pissed off many and some have not forgiven him for it. Then, I know quite a few that are sick of his "hate" speech and gun talk. I read it often.

[Enabler]

It would be very easy for me to jump up like this at every Jew joke...do you? Or is it just the Black issue? I've been along side of you most of the way, we hit a fork in the road though when humor is bad because its aimed at you and not others for the moment.
Its easy to be offended if you want too. I appreciate Ant for his honesty in a time when being HONEST can mean you should not exist.
Either you like someone's humor or you don't. Quit making it PERSONAL.


What about the other day when Anthony lost his shit because Lady Trucker made a joke about his appearance? He took that way too personally and its kind of a microcosm of how he feels about the majority of listeners.

[TheMojoPin]

It would be very easy for me to jump up like this at every Jew joke...do you? Or is it just the Black issue? I've been along side of you most of the way, we hit a fork in the road though when humor is bad because its aimed at you and not others for the moment.
Its easy to be offended if you want too. I appreciate Ant for his honesty in a time when being HONEST can mean you should not exist.
Either you like someone's humor or you don't. Quit making it PERSONAL.

And quit saying that being a racist dipshit is being "honest." That gives a bad name to honesty.

[west milly Tom]

There was a period not long after the suspension that Ant continued to shit all over the fans, the various boards, and events that the fans were at. He pissed off many and some have not forgiven him for it. Then, I know quite a few that are sick of his "hate" speech and gun talk. I read it often.



Not you boo. Ant is funny, the show is good. I laugh every Time I listen to the show.

And using the phrase "hate" speech, come on budday you have to get the bit. If you are offended by "hate" speech you're listening to the wrong show. I liked the CBS show, but the xmradio show is way better. I say good riddance to CBS. Z100 blows so splitting that audience dosent make any sense to me, but whatever. Ill continue to listen to them till Xm shits the bed.

[Dave's Cackle]

I'm an idiot

QFT!

[AKA]

It would be very easy for me to jump up like this at every Jew joke...do you? Or is it just the Black issue? I've been along side of you most of the way, we hit a fork in the road though when humor is bad because its aimed at you and not others for the moment.
Its easy to be offended if you want too. I appreciate Ant for his honesty in a time when being HONEST can mean you should not exist.
Either you like someone's humor or you don't. Quit making it PERSONAL.

None of his "jokes" are aimed at me and I find him an unfunny fuck - and that's not at all PERSONAL.

[Fred from Brooklyn]

QFT!

At least I can admit it... :clap:

Thanks for pointing that out Einstein

[Fred from Brooklyn]

None of his "jokes" are aimed at me and I find him an unfunny fuck - and that's not at all PERSONAL.

Maybe not funny to you, but you follow him closer than most that do. Atleaset from what I read.

[Fred from Brooklyn]

And quit saying that being a racist dipshit is being "honest." That gives a bad name to honesty.

Honesty of one's thoughts. Not many people express their thoughts as honestly as Ant does.
That is what he gets paid for.

So let me get this straight, if he or anyone else kept their thoughts to themselves that would be honest?

[TheMojoPin]

Honesty of one's thoughts. Not many people express their thoughts as honestly as Ant does.
That is what he gets paid for.

So let me get this straight, if he or anyone else kept their thoughts to themselves that would be honest?

That's a bullshit excuse. If we spouted everything that popped into our heads at a momnt's notice we'd all come off sounding like maniacs and scumbags half the time. That doesn't make Anthony honest...it just means he has a lack of common sense.

[Fred from Brooklyn]

There was a period not long after the suspension that Ant continued to shit all over the fans, the various boards, and events that the fans were at. He pissed off many and some have not forgiven him for it. Then, I know quite a few that are sick of his "hate" speech and gun talk. I read it often.

I was pissed at Howard Stern for many reasons...I moved along and never listened again.
I couldn't imagine arguing with someone that still enjoys him. What could be gained?

What about the other day when Anthony lost his shit because Lady Trucker made a joke about his appearance? He took that way too personally and its kind of a microcosm of how he feels about the majority of listeners.

Lady Trucker shouldn't throw stones in a glass house. She calls in enough to have been called out.

OK...I figured out Multi-quote:king:

[boosterp]

Not you boo. Ant is funny, the show is good. I laugh every Time I listen to the show.

And using the phrase "hate" speech, come on budday you have to get the bit. If you are offended by "hate" speech you're listening to the wrong show. I liked the CBS show, but the xmradio show is way better. I say good riddance to CBS. Z100 blows so splitting that audience dosent make any sense to me, but whatever. Ill continue to listen to them till Xm shits the bed.

Just stating what I have read and seen on PT. And yes, some of it gets quite old but I do still find him funny, hell I'd even hang with him if I had the chance.

[Fred from Brooklyn]

That's a bullshit excuse. If we spouted everything that popped into our heads at a momnt's notice we'd all come off sounding like maniacs and scumbags half the time. That doesn't make Anthony honest...it just means he has a lack of common sense.

WE DONT HAVE RADIO SHOWS!!
Has Ant scorned you? The man has a TALK SHOW to do, and he says whats on HIS mind.

I couldn't imagine arguing with a Rachael Maddow fan...I just don't get it.

[TheMojoPin]

WE DONT HAVE RADIO SHOWS!!
Has Ant scorned you? The man has a TALK SHOW to do, and he says whats on HIS mind.

I couldn't imagine arguing with a Rachael Maddow fan...I just don't get it.

So you're basically saying that Anthony can't do his radio show if he doesn't spout every bit of racist garbage he reads, thinks of or agrees with?

Way to support your idol.

[conman823]

It would be very easy for me to jump up like this at every Jew joke...do you? Or is it just the Black issue? I've been along side of you most of the way, we hit a fork in the road though when humor is bad because its aimed at you and not others for the moment.
Its easy to be offended if you want too. I appreciate Ant for his honesty in a time when being HONEST can mean you should not exist.
Either you like someone's humor or you don't. Quit making it PERSONAL.

Oh here comes Fred with his HI-JACK-ING.!

[Don Stugots]

None of his "jokes" are aimed at me and I find him an unfunny fuck - and that's not at all PERSONAL.

Its business.

[zildjian361]

Its business.

Exactly. the one good that could come outta this for me is, there might be more room for Ron & Fez replays during the week. Say 7 to 10 pm not fuckin midnight:clap:

[Hottub]

Didn't happen before FM, not likely to happen after the fact.

[boosterp]

[QUOTE=Fred from Brooklyn;2158529]I was pissed at Howard Stern for many reasons...I moved along and never listened again.
I couldn't imagine arguing with someone that still enjoys him. What could be gained?
[QUOTE]

As I said, I read it. not long after the XM suspension debacle was the nail in the coffin for the pest movement, of course boards like FBA were called haters, and he called the fans "...all idiots..." So I understand where Ant burned bridges.

I am an adult and make my own opinions and I enjoy Ant when he is no repeating gun shit (I own guns so I appreciate it once in a while) and going off in tie raids about blacks. Some is funny, some blows chunks. Just my opinion. I do not have to agree 100% of the time to be a fan.

[Drunky McBetidont]

tie raids


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[Don Stugots]

Yes you do! What kind of fan are you if you do not agree with every honest word out of a radio show host's mouth?

[boosterp]

Yes you do! What kind of fan are you if you do not agree with every honest word out of a radio show host's mouth?

A brainless cunt? Like some wackbag members and that homo bill from cleveland.

[BlackSpider]

tie raids


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Jenius...

[biozombie]

Oh here comes Fred with his HI-JACK-ING.!

I chuckled heartily. :clap:

[zildjian361]

Didn't happen before FM, not likely to happen after the fact.

guess you were right:smoke::drunk:

[Hottub]

guess you were right:smoke::drunk:

But not happy aboot it.

[Farmer Dave]

over the air radio is for people that are less than us,they dont have disposible income and national advertisers are retarded spending their advertising dollars on them.buy only xm 202 merchandise and nothin you hear on terrestial radio,that'll show em

I'm not going to read this whole thread and I don't know if you're serious. I found O&A on XM which lead me to Ron & Fez. They are why I have satelite radio. That and because regular radio sucks beyond your wildest dreams out here in fly-over country.

[K.C.]

Why exactly is this news bad?

[biozombie]

Why exactly is this news bad?

Because they won't be able to pull in great guests to interview & have kick ass contests anymore.

duh.

[Fred from Brooklyn]

Yes you do! What kind of fan are you if you do not agree with every honest word out of a radio show host's mouth?

What exactly are you insinuating? This seems to a response to me, once removed.

[made cummsies]

you're all dead to me

[midwestjeff]

you're all dead to me

That's what CBS said!

[Don Stugots]

That's what CBS said!

FACE!

[angrymissy]

I'd like to give a great big FUCK YOU to the people on this forum who are enjoying today's events. O&A have shown nothing but support for Ron & Fez and despite your opinion of either Opie or Anthony I would have hoped that when they needed some of that support reciprocated you'd offer it or at least forgo the petty comments. There are enough threads on rf.net when you shitheels can spew about how you think they used to be better, or how you think they don't belong on FM, how you think Ant is a racist piece of shit, etc. can't you leave this one for those of us who enjoy both O&A and R&F?

Fuck sakes, I can appreciate that there are differing opinions but some of what I've read in this thread pisses me off. Think about how you'd react if R&F were cut down to 90 minutes a day? There would be calls, emails, faxes, smoke signals being sent to XM/Sirius demanding they return to the full three hours.

In closing, GO SCREW!!!!!!!!!!!!! :furious:

You know you're on a Ron and Fez fansite, right?

[styckx]

You know you're on a Ron and Fez fansite, right?

He's an intern for SOS

[The Ogre]

you're all dead to me

You should smash your modem in protest.

[K.C.]

I'd like to give a great big FUCK YOU to the people on this forum who are enjoying today's events. O&A have shown nothing but support for Ron & Fez and despite your opinion of either Opie or Anthony I would have hoped that when they needed some of that support reciprocated you'd offer it or at least forgo the petty comments. There are enough threads on rf.net when you shitheels can spew about how you think they used to be better, or how you think they don't belong on FM, how you think Ant is a racist piece of shit, etc. can't you leave this one for those of us who enjoy both O&A and R&F?

Fuck sakes, I can appreciate that there are differing opinions but some of what I've read in this thread pisses me off. Think about how you'd react if R&F were cut down to 90 minutes a day? There would be calls, emails, faxes, smoke signals being sent to XM/Sirius demanding they return to the full three hours.

In closing, GO SCREW!!!!!!!!!!!!! :furious:

We are supporting them. We all think it's a better show as a satellite exclusive.

[GreatAmericanZero]

i just don't understand what we should be angry about. We are still getting our product

its like writing letters to Coca-Cola for not selling liter bottles anymore when you can still get a 20 oz or a 2 liter. it just doesn't seem like we are missing all that much to put energy into it

[biozombie]

i just don't understand what we should be angry about. We are still getting our product

its like writing letters to Coca-Cola for not selling liter bottles anymore when you can still get a 20 oz or a 2 liter. it just doesn't seem like we are missing all that much to put energy into it

I'm going to be really sad the day they eliminate the can.

[conman823]

After catching the replay and hearing the relaxed, easy natural flow of the XM show today I can honestly say I would kiss the people over at CBS for finally letting me enjoy one of my all time favorite radio shows again.

I can trace my displeasure with O&A back to the minute they started on CBS. I felt betrayed as a fan that they ran back to Terrestrial Radio after smashing it, and making me PAY for it for so long.

Then we got shitty guests, watered down content, and no contests. (Again not all their fault, but hey they signed up for it.)

Bottom line those of us who hated the CBS show won in the end.

And O&A made millions, so everyone wins!!

[Slumbag]

Why exactly is this news bad?

I've been wondering that the entire time this has been going on.
CBS is a shitty venue. They did some ok shows, but that place sucked ass. I say this is all for the best.

[tele7]

After catching the replay and hearing the relaxed, easy natural flow of the XM show today I can honestly say I would kiss the people over at CBS for finally letting me enjoy one of my all time favorite radio shows again.

I can trace my displeasure with O&A back to the minute they started on CBS. I felt betrayed as a fan that they ran back to Terrestrial Radio after smashing it, and making me PAY for it for so long.

Then we got shitty guests, watered down content, and no contests. (Again not all their fault, but hey they signed up for it.)

Bottom line those of us who hated the CBS show won in the end.

And O&A made millions, so everyone wins!!

I noticed that as well.

[Space Edge]

After catching the replay and hearing the relaxed, easy natural flow of the XM show today I can honestly say I would kiss the people over at CBS for finally letting me enjoy one of my all time favorite radio shows again.

I can trace my displeasure with O&A back to the minute they started on CBS. I felt betrayed as a fan that they ran back to Terrestrial Radio after smashing it, and making me PAY for it for so long.

Then we got shitty guests, watered down content, and no contests. (Again not all their fault, but hey they signed up for it.)

Bottom line those of us who hated the CBS show won in the end.

And O&A made millions, so everyone wins!!

I totally agree with you I loved today' show they actually sounded somewhat happy to be there despite the whole Krock thing. I'm also glad that part of my "Support" (Sirius/XM bill) is not going towards paying for what was a terrestrial radio show mostly.

[GreatAmericanZero]

After catching the replay and hearing the relaxed, easy natural flow of the XM show today I can honestly say I would kiss the people over at CBS for finally letting me enjoy one of my all time favorite radio shows again.

I can trace my displeasure with O&A back to the minute they started on CBS. I felt betrayed as a fan that they ran back to Terrestrial Radio after smashing it, and making me PAY for it for so long.

Then we got shitty guests, watered down content, and no contests. (Again not all their fault, but hey they signed up for it.)

Bottom line those of us who hated the CBS show won in the end.

And O&A made millions, so everyone wins!!

you are 100% right on everything

and looking back, it is amazing how i never truly felt comfortable with the splitting of the shows. i guess i had hope that it would get better...more stations, better guests, contests, callers who provided more conflict...but none of that ever came true. And when station after station started disappearing it was like "why are they still doing this, it sucks"

now, im actually optimistic for the O&A show. They have an enemy again..terrestrial radio...they have a show again. if they want to devote a whole entire show to one bit, they can so they could try more things.

Even problems i've been having with the show lately (Anthony) i think could get better. Atleast he won't sound like such an asshole by making his stuff seem "terrestrial radio friendly"...it won't make him seem like just another right wing host. Also, i think on terrestrial he fell back on boring topics (his guns, his money, his politics) because they were safe subjects, now there is a whole array of topics they can go to anytime that are far more interesting. Even if a news story with sexual subject matter comes up, they can just talk about it like human beings in real time.

I'm excited to listen to the show tomorrow, I'll say that

[CurseoftheBambi]

It would be very easy for me to jump up like this at every Jew joke...do you? Or is it just the Black issue? I've been along side of you most of the way, we hit a fork in the road though when humor is bad because its aimed at you and not others for the moment.
Its easy to be offended if you want too. I appreciate Ant for his honesty in a time when being HONEST can mean you should not exist.
Either you like someone's humor or you don't. Quit making it PERSONAL.

Uh...how can I explain and have you understand...which I'm surpised you don't.:blink: I've been an Opie and Anthony fan since 1999. I've heard them say black jokes, I've heard them say all kinds of racial jokes. That didn't offend me because from what I believed at the time they were jokes and not coming from a real place, but more or less a commentary of society and how it feels and the stereotypes that are out there. So for me and I'm sure others in here who are not black we we're all cool with it since it was funny. Some I'm sure like Vinnie the Racist remeber him took it very seriously as a fact, cause I remember Ant was uncomftortable whenever Vinnie called I thought it was because he was racist and Ant wasn't (i no longer believe that to be true) remember the famous line Vinnie had.. "hey anthony...you know what i'm talking about" whenever he said some racist thing or some stereotype thing.

I don't believe its just joking around anymore...but personal with Ant. All his Obama comments, from the "we're doomed we're fucking doomed" to the "Obama president naaaaaaaaaaah" to his beeped nigger, monkey jokes that aren't funny and aren't jokes anymore. Sorry I can't laugh when I hear him say "jokes" about my race when I know they're coming from a real place. I remember him saying that "america wasnt ready for a black president" I guess he was proven wrong Nov 4th. And I saw him personally with my own eyes at the halloween show that never was depressed and all because McCain wasn't gonna pull it off. And he made a joke to me personally that i would be happy about that. I was...but he didn't know that. I also seen him do racial stuff online in a serious tone...something about "have you ever seen a white gang" and all stupid stuff like that.

So yeah I'm very offended when jokes which are not jokes coming from a serious place and I should feel PERSONAL. And if you are a fan of Honesty...That Hitler Guy sure was honest...wasn't he, but you shouldn't take what he said & did Personally Either I guess.

[Dave's Cackle]

Uh...how can I explain and have you understand...which I'm surpised you don't.:blink: I've been an Opie and Anthony fan since 1999. I've heard them say black jokes, I've heard them say all kinds of racial jokes. That didn't offend me because from what I believed at the time they were jokes and not coming from a real place, but more or less a commentary of society and how it feels and the stereotypes that are out there. So for me and I'm sure others in here who are not black we we're all cool with it since it was funny. Some I'm sure like Vinnie the Racist remeber him took it very seriously as a fact, cause I remember Ant was uncomftortable whenever Vinnie called I thought it was because he was racist and Ant wasn't (i no longer believe that to be true) remember the famous line Vinnie had.. "hey anthony...you know what i'm talking about" whenever he said some racist thing or some stereotype thing.

I don't believe its just joking around anymore...but personal with Ant. All his Obama comments, from the "we're doomed we're fucking doomed" to the "Obama president naaaaaaaaaaah" to his beeped nigger, monkey jokes that aren't funny and aren't jokes anymore. Sorry I can't laugh when I hear him say "jokes" about my race when I know they're coming from a real place. I remember him saying that "america wasnt ready for a black president" I guess he was proven wrong Nov 4th. And I saw him personally with my own eyes at the halloween show that never was depressed and all because McCain wasn't gonna pull it off. And he made a joke to me personally that i would be happy about that. I was...but he didn't know that. I also seen him do racial stuff online in a serious tone...something about "have you ever seen a white gang" and all stupid stuff like that.

So yeah I'm very offended when jokes which are not jokes coming from a serious place and I should feel PERSONAL. And if you are a fan of Honesty...That Hitler Guy sure was honest...wasn't he, but you shouldn't take what he said & did Personally Either I guess.

+1

[hydee]

Uh...how can I explain and have you understand...which I'm surpised you don't.:blink: I've been an Opie and Anthony fan since 1999. I've heard them say black jokes, I've heard them say all kinds of racial jokes. That didn't offend me because from what I believed at the time they were jokes and not coming from a real place, but more or less a commentary of society and how it feels and the stereotypes that are out there. So for me and I'm sure others in here who are not black we we're all cool with it since it was funny. Some I'm sure like Vinnie the Racist remeber him took it very seriously as a fact, cause I remember Ant was uncomftortable whenever Vinnie called I thought it was because he was racist and Ant wasn't (i no longer believe that to be true) remember the famous line Vinnie had.. "hey anthony...you know what i'm talking about" whenever he said some racist thing or some stereotype thing.

I don't believe its just joking around anymore...but personal with Ant. All his Obama comments, from the "we're doomed we're fucking doomed" to the "Obama president naaaaaaaaaaah" to his beeped nigger, monkey jokes that aren't funny and aren't jokes anymore. Sorry I can't laugh when I hear him say "jokes" about my race when I know they're coming from a real place. I remember him saying that "america wasnt ready for a black president" I guess he was proven wrong Nov 4th. And I saw him personally with my own eyes at the halloween show that never was depressed and all because McCain wasn't gonna pull it off. And he made a joke to me personally that i would be happy about that. I was...but he didn't know that. I also seen him do racial stuff online in a serious tone...something about "have you ever seen a white gang" and all stupid stuff like that.

So yeah I'm very offended when jokes which are not jokes coming from a serious place and I should feel PERSONAL. And if you are a fan of Honesty...That Hitler Guy sure was honest...wasn't he, but you shouldn't take what he said & did Personally Either I guess.

:clap:

I am really sorry that you had to deal with that in person.

[CurseoftheBambi]

Thanks, but it's ok...its something i needed to experience personally with the other stuff that was going on so I didn't become an Ant apologist. And no Fred I ain't attacking you but ask around I'm sure you'll see I'm not feeling this way just because I'm black...i give myself more credit than that I stood back from reacting for a long time before i came to my conclusions based on the evidence. And I wear a Kilt as some people know so I don't limit myself to what's "Black" which in and of itself is a stereotype. And I love breaking those. I like Chicken because its good not because its in my genes. Of course Ant may not understand that.

[SKANE]

[QUOTE=CurseoftheBambi;2159393] Some I'm sure like Vinnie the Racist remember him took it very seriously as a fact, cause I remember Ant was uncomftortable whenever Vinnie called I thought it was because he was racist and Ant wasn't

What made Vinny the racist funny was Ants reaction. I thought Ant was genuine too. If Vinny called in now Ant would just agree with him. Shame he was just full of shit and actually agreed with that nonsense. Haven't heard from Vinny since they came back. One of Ants voices?

[CurseoftheBambi]

No Vinnie was a real person...O&A actually had him do stand up filler during one of the XFL shows (commerical break) to get the crowd riled up (in the good way). He stunk and everyone knew he stunk. It was hilarious. He hasn't been heard of since the boys got on XM but that's true for a lot of people on Wnew...i miss gay marco, dan from hoboken, etc etc

Actually what made O&A fun was the whole group who were with them on wnew. RIck, Mark, Steve, Stinky, Spaz when he was there. When they came to XM though funny something was missing.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Actually what made O&A fun was the whole group who were with them on wnew. RIck, Mark, Steve, Stinky, Spaz when he was there. When they came to XM though funny something was missing.

to me, thats not a fair complaint to the show. Saying "something was missing" is unfairly comparing it to their old show. Saying its not as funny is one thing, but saying "its not what i view the show is suppose to be" is an impossible task for them

[CurseoftheBambi]

true but I still listen.

[Dan]

He hasn't been heard of since the boys got on XM but that's true for a lot of people on Wnew...i miss gay marco, dan from hoboken, etc etc

Gay Marco was hilarious!

[millionsofpeaches]

i think its for the best. i agree xm show is alot better since they dont have to worry about the PC police... even tho they had a blow up which partly i think is because of cbs. ( yeah mr obvious here) Just hope that xm/sirus can oust that ASSHOLE mel and make sat radio better.

any chance they're getting direct tv channel back? ;\

[TripleSkeet]

Thanks, but it's ok...its something i needed to experience personally with the other stuff that was going on so I didn't become an Ant apologist. And no Fred I ain't attacking you but ask around I'm sure you'll see I'm not feeling this way just because I'm black...i give myself more credit than that I stood back from reacting for a long time before i came to my conclusions based on the evidence. And I wear a Kilt as some people know so I don't limit myself to what's "Black" which in and of itself is a stereotype. And I love breaking those. I like Chicken because its good not because its in my genes. Of course Ant may not understand that.

Holy shit, youre black??!?!

Hahahahaha I never knew. How the hell are you so cool with me??? Didnt all the white boys on here tell you they were ready to hang me upside down after I said blacks suck at QB???

LOL better stop being nice to me, you might get called an Uncle Tom.

[TheMojoPin]

Hahahahaha I never knew. How the hell are you so cool with me??? Didnt all the white boys on here tell you they were ready to hang me upside down after I said blacks suck at QB???

Why not tell him what you actually said?

[PapaBear]

Why not tell him what you actually said?
Now I want to know. Though, I think I have a vague idea.

[TripleSkeet]

Why not tell him what you actually said?

Trust me, hes heard me on Paltalk enough to not be surprised by anything Ive said on these boards. I believe my exact quote was "The Eagles will never win a Super Bowl with a nigger QB." That came about 10 minutes after he had just lost his 4th NFC Championship to the Arizona Cardinals.

I know nobody will agree to it here, but simply using that word doesnt make someone a racist.


By the way Curse, its amazing the difference two little letters at the end of a name makes huh? LOL

[The Ogre]

What's worse? The fact that you're an ignorant cunt or that you desperately vomit out a half assed explanation in an attempt to not look like an ignorant cunt?

[TNABuffalo]

What's worse? The fact that you're an ignorant cunt or that you desperately vomit out a half assed explanation in an attempt to not look like an ignorant cunt?

What, may I ask, is he ignorant about exactly?

I suppose it can be done, but it is tough to be ignorant about what one said when one is repeating what he said. Other than that......I am missing the ignorance part.

(Don't even try to pull the "saying nigger is ignorant" card either)

[TheMojoPin]

What, may I ask, is he ignorant about exactly?

I suppose it can be done, but it is tough to be ignorant about what one said when one is repeating what he said. Other than that......I am missing the ignorance part.

(Don't even try to pull the "saying nigger is ignorant" card either)

Seriously?

[TNABuffalo]

Seriously?

Yes

[conman823]

Ah, but I defend his right to say it if he wants too.

He's not hosting a (formerly) Nationally Syndicated Radio Show.

Also oversensitivity with the word nigger is kinda a sign of White Guilt. The word exists, it is used, the best thing you can do is try to pass to the next generation that its not something too call someone just based on skin color.

[TheMojoPin]

Also oversensitivity with the word nigger is kinda a sign of White Guilt.

Oversensitive?

I am fascinated with the two most recent attempts here to explain it away.

You'd defend his "right to say it," yet those who expect the right to state how they think his use of it was incredibly ignorant and demonstrated a complete lack of common sense and respect for may of those who would see it, well, they're being "oversensitive" and suffering from "White Guilt."

Is it really necessary to go to such lengths to try and explain away what is clearly a really stupid use of a really hateful word? It's not like it was in some kind of context that can be misconstrued: it was a guy who thought it was a perfectly acceptable thing to go online and post that on a public message board because his team didn't go to the Super Bowl.

A negative reaction to such a thing is about as far from "oversensitive" as one can get.

[conman823]

Theres nothing to explain away.

Its used, its just when someone blurts it out in a public forum a lot of people act like old Women in church when someone drops the F' Bomb on the alter. Like I said it shouldn't be taught to our kids, but guess what? They will hear it anyway!

The word was bured, then rose up 3 days later like Jesus! Like it or not its a piece of "Americana", an ugly horrible piece. I will not judge someone for using it, its their own outward apperance they should care about.

[conman823]

Is it really necessary to go to such lengths to try and explain away what is clearly a really stupid use of a really hateful word? It's not like it was in some kind of context that can be misconstrued: it was a guy who thought it was a perfectly acceptable thing to go online and post that on a public message board because his team didn't go to the Super Bowl.

A negative reaction to such a thing is about as far from "oversensitive" as one can get.


Such lengths? I didn't post a manifesto! I just said its part of free speech!

At the least its a "shock post", but its not like this is Niggermania. Theres a site I abhor, but its there and I will defend its right to be there.

Do you think the word "nigger" should be banned from this message board?

[TheMojoPin]

Theres nothing to explain away.

Its used, its just when someone blurts it out in a public forum a lot of people act like old Women in church when someone drops the F' Bomb on the alter. Like I said it shouldn't be taught to our kids, but guess what? They will hear it anyway!

The word was bured, then rose up 3 days later like Jesus! Like it or not its a piece of "Americana", an ugly horrible piece. I will not judge someone for using it, its their own outward apperance they should care about.

This is a ridiculous copout excuse. It basically says "the problem is with people who think the word is offensive" and not with the people that think using it as casually as that is fine. How does that make any sense? It completely lets those that use it off the hook and acts like those who think it's a stupid thing to say are doing something wrong.

Wha-?!?

You say something that stupidly offensive on a public forum over something as ultimately inconsequential as a football game, people are going to react negatively to it, period. We never lived in a society where the things one chooses to say don't have consequences if they choose REALLY poorly. If you say somthing incredibly insulting, people are going to react.

This nonsense notion of "if you ignore the word it'll go away" is a load of excuse-making crap. A word as loaded as that isn't just going to vanish anytime soon because people think it's OK to use over over a football game, not because others realize what a ridiculous choice that is.

[TheMojoPin]

Such lengths? I didn't post a manifesto! I just said its part of free speech!

At the least its a "shock post", but its not like this is Niggermania. Theres a site I abhor, but its there and I will defend its right to be there.

What "right" to be there? If the site was hosted by an ISP or server or hosting site or whatever that they didn't own and that host wanted the site kicked off, boom, that's it. They have no right to exist. The only free speech right they have is that the government can't shut them down or shut them up. Private citizens can do whatever they want to legally shut them up.

Do you think the word "nigger" should be banned from this message board?

Personally? When used like TripleSkeet did? Definitely. But that's not my call since this isn't my site.

You're bring "rights" into this, but people don't have the inherrent right to say whatever they want on privately owned message boards, just like they don't have the right to do or say whatever they want in businesses or other people's homes. Nobody has the right to come up to someone and start insulting them or using slurs without being responded to. You seem to be presenting "the right" of using the word as being something someone can do anywhere and people are in the wrong if they voice their disagreement. What rights are you talking about here?

[The Ogre]

What, may I ask, is he ignorant about exactly?

I suppose it can be done, but it is tough to be ignorant about what one said when one is repeating what he said. Other than that......I am missing the ignorance part.

(Don't even try to pull the "saying nigger is ignorant" card either)

Ignorant of the fact that he is a racist. Ignorant of the fact that the race of the quarterback of a football team has nothing to do with the fact that said team didn't make it. I'm not letting the argument get framed by someone who is in the wrong or their defenders. Casually using racist terms and then trying to explain it away like a kid who got caught doing something wrong is bullshit. And if someone really thinks that it's ok because they were frustrated about some dumb fucking game, or that using the word doesn't make them racist in that context, they are as ignorant as a person can be in that situation.

And as far as me "not even trying to pull" anything, I don't know if that was some attempt to talk down to me as if I have to go on the defensive. You don't just get to pull certain arguments off the table to bolster your own point.

[conman823]

So your a moderator on this board. If you feel what he said was wrong then ban him for it.

I agree that on a private owned and operated Board you should be able to moderate the content thats on screen, thats not MY point. MY point is, he can say it whenever he wants. Its his own personal appearance he should be worried about (i.e- Looking like a racist toolbag). If he says it on a message board that you have Mod powers over and you wanna ban him, I would hardly start the "Why was he banned?" Thread.

Also to say "ignoring the word won't make it go away" is a broad statement. How else would you like to get rid of this horrible word? Its fucking said 100,000 times a day all around us (ironically enough, mostly in Rap Music). I would like to think I can raise my kids with enough intelligence to make them understand that although you may hear this word that doesn't make it OK to use..........because you will look like an ass.

Finally, I think you tripped out over my use of the phrase "white guilt", but it does exist. I see it all around me and I will PM you a huge example of it that I came across just a day ago. Also your trying to twist my words defending free speech and paint me in a corner like I'm a racist also, which is hardly the case. Just wanted to defend that point to anyone else reading.

[docgoblin]

This is still the "Support O&A" thread, right?

[conman823]

This is still the "Support O&A" thread, right?

Linger Longer!!

Yeah boy did this get derailed into a shit heap

[TheMojoPin]

So your a moderator on this board. If you feel what he said was wrong then ban him for it.

I agree that on a private owned and operated Board you should be able to moderate the content thats on screen, thats not MY point. MY point is, he can say it whenever he wants. Its his own personal appearance he should be worried about (i.e- Looking like a racist toolbag). If he says it on a message board that you have Mod powers over and you wanna ban him, I would hardly start the "Why was he banned?" Thread.

Again, you're falling back on that he has the right to say it while seemingly implying that anyone who disagrees with him is int he wrong if they say so. Why are the only options you're seemingly presenting are that he can say that and nobody can respond negatively or that he gets banned for it? Why is his "right" to say that so important, but you're so dismissie of anyone that wants to speak up and point out why they think what he said was in REALLY bad taste?

Also to say "ignoring the word won't make it go away" is a broad statement. How else would you like to get rid of this horrible word? Its fucking said 100,000 times a day all around us (ironically enough, mostly in Rap Music). I would like to think I can raise my kids with enough intelligence to make them understand that although you may hear this word that doesn't make it OK to use..........because you will look like an ass.

I'm not the one running around with the unrealistic notion of "getting rid of a word" like that. That argument rings completely hollow with me because words like that, with that much impact and history, don't just go away. To claim a larger goal of getting rid of it is a complete copout because that's not realistic. The issue to me is in the choice...almost everyone is going to know that word and what it means. It comes down to the choice of when they use it or why or even at all. Talking about "getting rid of it" is nonsense...that's not going to happen anytime soon and to act like people who hate that word are somehow holding up its inevitable vanishing is ridiculous.

Finally, I think you tripped out over my use of the phrase "white guilt", but it does exist. I see it all around me and I will PM you a huge example of it that I came across just a day ago. Also your trying to twist my words defending free speech and paint me in a corner like I'm a racist also, which is hardly the case. Just wanted to defend that point to anyone else reading.

I don't know you, I'm not trying to paint you as anything. I've been explaining how your argument comes across to me, not you. To me, the issue of "White Guilt" is moot when it comes to that word being used like TS did. He knows what that word is and he chose to use it over a football game on a public forum where people can respond. People taking issue with that has absolutely nothing to do with the idea of "White Guilt." Nobody needs to justify their negative reaction to that word used in that context.

[conman823]

Lets just agree to disagree.........

[TripleSkeet]

Ignorant of the fact that he is a racist. Ignorant of the fact that the race of the quarterback of a football team has nothing to do with the fact that said team didn't make it. I'm not letting the argument get framed by someone who is in the wrong or their defenders. Casually using racist terms and then trying to explain it away like a kid who got caught doing something wrong is bullshit. And if someone really thinks that it's ok because they were frustrated about some dumb fucking game, or that using the word doesn't make them racist in that context, they are as ignorant as a person can be in that situation.

And as far as me "not even trying to pull" anything, I don't know if that was some attempt to talk down to me as if I have to go on the defensive. You don't just get to pull certain arguments off the table to bolster your own point.

I never tried to explain anything away like a kid that got caught doing anything. I still stand by exactly what I said. My opinion hasnt changed at all. I did say I went a little over the line in expressing how I felt because I was extremely pissed off, but it hasnt changed my opinion.

I also made it pretty clear I use "racist" terms all the time. Not just with blacks but with everyone. I just look at things a little differently. To me to actually be racist means to hate someone SOLELY BECAUSE of their race. And I dont. I use it more as an adjective to describe people of that race that I think are shit. I refer to black people that I think are pieces of shit as niggers. Just as I refer to white people I think are pieces of shit as white trash. I guess I could use the word honky or cracker but to me they dont do the justice white trash does. I use hayseed or hillbilly for white trash from the south. Spick for spanish people I find to be garbage. And just about any other ethnic slur to describe people of that ethnicity that I dont like. Including guidos and greaseballs for Italians, of which I am one.

Its the old Chris Rock "Nigger vs. Black man" argument. Some people may not agree with it, I really dont care, thats how I feel and its not going to change. I dont post here to have strangers Ive never met throw their praise at me. I do it to give my opinions. If people agree with me, cool. If not, Im not going to fault you for it.

See the description of a racist has changed alot in this country over the years, and white guilt is the reason. To see a black guy thats 7 feet tall wearing a gold chain as thick as my wrist coated with diamonds, and assuming hes a professional basketball player would be called racist by alot of people. I call it logical. Even if youre wrong, its still not racist, stereotypical maybe, but people need to realize that the two words do not mean the same thing.

Anyway, the whole point of my post was to say hello to a guy I get along with pretty well on Paltalk, who happens to be black.

[TheMojoPin]

I never tried to explain anything away like a kid that got caught doing anything. I still stand by exactly what I said. My opinion hasnt changed at all. I did say I went a little over the line in expressing how I felt because I was extremely pissed off, but it hasnt changed my opinion.

I also made it pretty clear I use "racist" terms all the time. Not just with blacks but with everyone. I just look at things a little differently. To me to actually be racist means to hate someone SOLELY BECAUSE of their race. And I dont. I use it more as an adjective to describe people of that race that I think are shit. I refer to black people that I think are pieces of shit as niggers. Just as I refer to white people I think are pieces of shit as white trash. I guess I could use the word honky or cracker but to me they dont do the justice white trash does. I use hayseed or hillbilly for white trash from the south. Spick for spanish people I find to be garbage. And just about any other ethnic slur to describe people of that ethnicity that I dont like. Including guidos and greaseballs for Italians, of which I am one.

Its the old Chris Rock "Nigger vs. Black man" argument. Some people may not agree with it, I really dont care, thats how I feel and its not going to change. I dont post here to have strangers Ive never met throw their praise at me. I do it to give my opinions. If people agree with me, cool. If not, Im not going to fault you for it.

See the description of a racist has changed alot in this country over the years, and white guilt is the reason. To see a black guy thats 7 feet tall wearing a gold chain as thick as my wrist coated with diamonds, and assuming hes a professional basketball player would be called racist by alot of people. I call it logical. Even if youre wrong, its still not racist, stereotypical maybe, but people need to realize that the two words do not mean the same thing.

Absolutely none of that explains how you you could have possibly thought that using that word on a public forum wouldn't have been a bad idea.

Subtract all of what you said for a second and look at it this way...do you think it's a good or smart or idea to drop that word in a pubic setting like you did? You point out that most of the people here are strangers to you...shouldn't that mean you should do the smart thing and NOT use such a loaded and insulting word to people you don't know personally? Doesn't it make sense to not think that your standards with that word, which clearly run WAY contrary, are going to fly wih a large group of strangers when you use it in front of them?

Again, this has nothing to do with "white guilt"...it's common sense. To try and pin the problem on the people who are pissed that you used that word on a pubic forum seems completely backwards. The "problem" isn't with people that somehow manage to not use that word or see it for what it actually is. Your justification doesn't fly at all. You're trying to act like the word is no big deal and that it doesn't have the history and the context that it does. That's not realistic at all.

And no, I don't think you're a racist. A racist uses their prejudice in a position of power to hurt or hinder people of other races or ethnic groups. You're just prejudiced and completely in the wrong here. There's absolutely no justification for what you did.

[jamezny1]

The problem with K-Rock falls into the marketing and sales .. It falls into the culture of play it safe FM radio culture.. Funny how AM testrial is way more outspken and radical these days .. That said why did the station ignore to advertise ..Anyone who lives in nyc see billboards plastered all over the subway for these spanish station talk shows ..Neon grenn with black background ..they drill it in your head .. What about the internet? .. I remeber back when Howard and Imus were the 2 big boys .. The amount of marketing that went into those campaigns was brilliant .. with kids today so diostracted by i-pods, myspace, facebook, cable tv, (we had 13 channels lol) .. so today you have to market twenty times higher broader than when we came up ... Crazy eddy perfect exanple of regional kick ass marketing .. but again we only had 13 channels so it was easier to saturate .. but geez if they ran a billboard campaign, tv commercials in highest rated young channels for broadcast and local cable .. due ya think they could easily boost listenership by 10% .. who will then inform another 10% of what quality radio can sound like ... better yet why the fuck not market on the 3 big boys .. yes throw commercials on other radio stations like they do on AM .. id take space on rush, hannity and michael savage .. just think if 5% of that fuckin huge audience tuning in would do ..especually with anthony leaning to the right .. advertise on fox news .. so many ways to do it

The other huge problem with FM is playlists .. same fuckin songs by the same fuckin artists .. there afraid to play pink floyd when syd barret sang lol .. after 40 years on fm youd never know Floyd had a singer or records before dark side .. its a complete fuckin joke ..metallica another example you would never know kill em all or Ride the lightning existed (their first, two records) .. its just a comlete joke ..FM is done

[TripleSkeet]

Absolutely none of that explains how you you could have possibly thought that using that word on a public forum wouldn't have been a bad idea.

Subtract all of what you said for a second and look at it this way...do you think it's a good or smart or idea to drop that word in a pubic setting like you did? You point out that most of the people here are strangers to you...shouldn't that mean you should do the smart thing and NOT use such a loaded and insulting word to people you don't know personally? Doesn't it make sense to not think that your standards with that word, which clearly run WAY contrary, are going to fly wih a large group of strangers when you use it in front of them?

Again, this has nothing to do with "white guilt"...it's common sense. To try and pin the problem on the people who are pissed that you used that word on a pubic forum seems completely backwards. The "problem" isn't with people that somehow manage to not use that word or see it for what it actually is. Your justification doesn't fly at all. You're trying to act like the word is no big deal and that it doesn't have the history and the context that it does. That's not realistic at all.

And no, I don't think you're a racist. A racist uses their prejudice in a position of power to hurt or hinder people of other races or ethnic groups. You're just prejudiced and completely in the wrong here. There's absolutely no justification for what you did.

Sometimes I think you just read something and translate it to mean what you want it to mean.

1st, I never said anyone on here had "white guilt" and said thats why they attacked my post. You said I said this. I said white guilt is the reason that the term racist is thrown out there in society in contexts that arent racist.

Secondly, I also never said my comment wasnt racist or out of line. It was. But basically after explaining my opinion on the whole sports thing, I still stand by my explanation that some ethnicities are better at certain sports positions then others. I know many people dont agree. Thats cool. Im not looking for a debate, you have your opinion, I have mine.

And lastly, Im not "pinning the problem" on anyone. I never said anyone that was pissed at me was a problem either. Bottom line is, this is a public forum, and I dont hide or tone down the way I am for people. Thats just me. I dont care if people get offended. I really dont. I also dont get offended when people disagree with what I have to say. As long as your honest, even if I dont like your response Ill at least respect it. I just have a problem when people try to tell me I shouldnt express my honest opinion because it may offend others. Thats just not me. People that know me can tell you that. I think thats why that even being the way I am I have so many friends of other ethnicities. Ive been told a million times "Hey even if youre an asshole, I know your an honest asshole, I can respect that alot more then a phony nice guy."

Seriously, Im not trying to justify what I say, because an opinion doesnt need justification. And I feel I give the same courtesy back.

[MustyHatchetwound]

I Got A Tummy Ache!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!