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Dr Steve
03-20-2009, 05:53 AM
Look, I don't want to be one of those "experts" who opines about a celebrity tragedy. This is one of those really uncomfortable things for me, and I feel really, really bad for Ms Richardson and her family, especially her husband and kids. You just don't expect a fun outing learning how to ski to end up with you dying that day. But I have had some questions emailed to me about how this could happen and I thought I'd talk about epidural hematomas in general.

Epidural hematoma occurs generally with blunt head trauma. What happens is the artery to the lining of the brain is torn (most often with a skull fracture) and high pressure blood from the artery pours into the area between the skull and the brain causing a blood clot.

http://www.nebraskabraininjurylawyer.com/images/brainoverviews/hematomas/hematoma.epidural.jpg

In about 9% of people, this becomes an unstoppable process, resulting in increased pressure in the brain, resulting in the brain being forced downward. This can cause herniation of the bottom part of the brain through the hole in the base of the skull, which causes immediate cessation of blood flow to the brain.

http://www.uth.tmc.edu/radiology/test/er_primer/skull_brain/fig03.JPG



The mortality of epidural hematomas is estimated to be between 5 and 43%, with fractures over the temple (the thinnest part of the exposed skull) being most likely to result in a bad outcome. Fractures of the temple can indeed be prevented by wearing a helmet.

Epidural hematoma occurs in 1-2% of all head trauma cases and in about 10% of patients who present with traumatic coma. Most people with an epidural hematoma survive and even do well; if it's recognized and treated early, the underlying brain tissue is usually not damaged so no brain damage is expected.

Peoplel with a bleed in the "posterior fossa" (back of the head) often exhibit the classic behavior of feeling "fine" then minutes later being in a coma.

So please, kids, don't think wearing a helmet is fruity. Helmets do save lives. Having said that, this kind of thing is uncommon, though not unheard of. When I was in Vermont we'd have about one person a year die on the slopes from trauma (that's not counting the one or two that died from heart attack every year) if my memory isn't too fuzzy.

your pal,



Steve

Furtherman
03-20-2009, 06:35 AM
Thanks for the lesson Dr. Steve.

What a scary tragedy. I think we've all smacked our heads hard enough to see stars yet nothing but a headache result.

CountryBob
03-20-2009, 07:12 AM
You make me think of a time that I was playing "dodge ball" in middle school. I was back pedaling as fast as my little chubby legs would allow and I tripped over my own pre-pubesent feet. I fell (ala Nestee Plunge style) and my head was the first thing to hit the floor. i could hardly get up and was seeing stars - the pain was very bad. No adult saw thsi so i didnt go to any doc or tell any parent. Wow, after hearing about this it makes me think that I was lucky that I could have died from this trauma. Just makes you think.

DarkHippie
03-20-2009, 08:09 AM
How common does this occur with a brain injury. If I get punched in the face, am I gonna end up in a coma?

btw: I get punched in the face alot

DarkHippie
03-23-2009, 12:10 PM
How common does this occur with a brain injury. If I get punched in the face, am I gonna end up in a coma?

btw: I get punched in the face alot

Seriously, what are the odds that a good punch to the face is gonna kill me?

Dr Steve
03-23-2009, 03:07 PM
Seriously, what are the odds that a good punch to the face is gonna kill me?

It can happen, but it's rare. You have to get hit JUST right, and with energy and shear forces that shred the walls of a muscular artery that is designed to NOT tear. A few boxers have died in the ring from "hyperextension" injuries, where the head is jerked backward so far that the brain slaps against the skull causing a brain bruise. Do that hard enough and you can die. Epidural hematomas rarely happen from a punch to the head...you generally have to have a skull fracture with it. If you're being hit in the head with a baseball bat frequently I'd worry.

cougarjake13
03-23-2009, 05:40 PM
so if they had the time to do it would cutting a hole in the head to relieve some blood and pressure have saved her life ??

Hottub
03-23-2009, 05:46 PM
Dr. Danni was on shortly after Dr. Steve. She mentioned that drilling a hole could relieve the pressure and save a life, but you may not be the same person after the fact.

A quick aside.
The 202 family is quite lucky to have Dr. Steve on board.

Thanks for everything, Doc.

Tub.