Bye, Bye, Paltalk

[conman823]

O&A Announced yesterday that Paltalk will, unfortunately, not be making its way down to the Sirius studio. I myself will miss this awful and distracting bit of the Virus channel. I can only hope that Sirius sticks to thier guns and keeps this crap out of the studio. Since its inception we (we being fans of the RADIO aspect of the RADIO show) have had to endure countless distractions for Visual Bits, and pauses in the flow while "Paltalk cameras" are reset.

NOW, I would like to see an open feed to a Website to view the show for ALL fans to view. This way its only a one way camera, without TEXT comments, then everyone can view the show.

Bye, Bye, Paltalk. Just another improvement to the show since CBS cancelled then.:clap::clap::clap::thumbup:

[Reynolds]

I myself will miss this awful and distracting bit of the Virus channel. I can only hope that Sirius sticks to thier guns and keeps this crap out of the studio.


Bit contradicting, no?

[Fallon]

That doesn't mean the shows can't have it up on their computers right? Just no webcams in studio. Ant can continue to be distracted.

[Caseyelan]

That doesn't mean the shows can't have it up on their computers right? Just no webcams in studio. Ant can continue to be distracted.

Probably.

No one is ever happy with anything. Ever.

If it isn't paltalk... wait just a few days and it will be something else.

[disneyspy]

im just wonderin how many chicks on paltalk are whippin em out on this wednesday

[Caseyelan]

im just wonderin how many chicks on paltalk are whippin em out on this wednesday

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[instrument]

Opie mentioned pal talk in his part of the agument didn't he? If so I'm guess
ing its probably a good idea.

[disneyspy]

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then im not signin up,thx

[KingGeno]

Maybe a new Sirius owned and run "Live In-studio Cam" service? With XL pricing indeed.

[Freitag]

Maybe a new Sirius owned and run "Live In-studio Cam" service? With XL pricing indeed.

This is probably closer to the truth. PalTalk is a pay service and getting, what, at least 18 months of free plugs from both shows? If not more? I can't remember the last time I heard a paid paltalk spot on 202. So Mel probably said, "give us a paid deal, or go screw."

Paltalk doesn't pay, boom.

[Friday]

weren't they once a paid sponsor though?
i think it was for CBS though because The Fan 660 also has paltalk cams that they plug during the show and on the site.

[TjM]

This is probably closer to the truth. PalTalk is a pay service and getting, what, at least 18 months of free plugs from both shows? If not more? I can't remember the last time I heard a paid paltalk spot on 202. So Mel probably said, "give us a paid deal, or go screw."

Paltalk doesn't pay, boom.

And if that's the case I can't blame Mel one bit

[Freitag]

weren't they once a paid sponsor though?
i think it was for CBS though because The Fan 660 also has paltalk cams that they plug during the show and on the site.

They *were* a paid sponsor, many, many moons ago on the CBS side. And I think that buy was for a very short period of time.

Being a paid sponsor a long time ago doesn't mean jack in the current radio advertising climate. The point is, Paltalk has money to advertise (as referenced by their deal on WFAN) but aren't advertising on SiriusXM, especially with the amount of airtime they get.

[Space Edge]

This is the best thing to happen to both the O&A and R&F show in a long long time. :clap:

[Space Edge]

This is probably closer to the truth. PalTalk is a pay service and getting, what, at least 18 months of free plugs from both shows? If not more? I can't remember the last time I heard a paid paltalk spot on 202. So Mel probably said, "give us a paid deal, or go screw."

Paltalk doesn't pay, boom.

weren't they once a paid sponsor though?
i think it was for CBS though because The Fan 660 also has paltalk cams that they plug during the show and on the site.

For the longest time there was another video conferencing software company running spots on 202. I wonder why they never used the product they were "selling" instead of PT

[Doogie]

Wow...a lot of bitter and cheap people in this thread.

[Freitag]

Wow...a lot of bitter and cheap people in this thread.

I'm not bitter or cheap. The paltalk distraction has been dialed back a LOT in the past six months or so, or even more. As for being "cheap", I was just giving a possible reason why PalTalk is no longer going to be part of the new show. Radio is a business, and so is paltalk. You want airtime, you have to pay. It's the way it's always been. My bosses in radio would have had a meltdown with the amount of free airtime Paltalk has gotten over the years since they've been on XM.

There could be other reasons why PalTalk isn't going to Sirius. It could be a "security" issue. It could be a legal release issue, that people may not want their image disseminated in Paltalk, where it could be captured and spread out on the net.

All the changes with SiriusXM lately boil down to two things: Lawyers, or Money.


Throw anthony into the mix and you've got a Zevon song.

[Freitag]

For the longest time there was another video conferencing software company running spots on 202. I wonder why they never used the product they were "selling" instead of PT

WebEx. I think the interface is different, and it's mainly for business use. PT is more social.

[Jeffdc5]

i didnt mind paltalk until ronnie b got hooked on it. siri/xm pays them to entertain all the subscribers not 30 people online, both shows suffered with stupid inside talk good for sirius crack that whip

[ScottFromGA]

i didnt mind paltalk until ronnie b got hooked on it. siri/xm pays them to entertain all the subscribers not 30 people online, both shows suffered with stupid inside talk good for sirius crack that whip

ive gotten into the paltalk room during the Ron and Fez show(s) and I will agree with this for everything that it is meant to be.


paltalk is fun, but it is seriously taking the feel out of the show.

[Doogie]

I'm not bitter or cheap. The paltalk distraction has been dialed back a LOT in the past six months or so, or even more. As for being "cheap", I was just giving a possible reason why PalTalk is no longer going to be part of the new show. Radio is a business, and so is paltalk. You want airtime, you have to pay. It's the way it's always been. My bosses in radio would have had a meltdown with the amount of free airtime Paltalk has gotten over the years since they've been on XM.

There could be other reasons why PalTalk isn't going to Sirius. It could be a "security" issue. It could be a legal release issue, that people may not want their image disseminated in Paltalk, where it could be captured and spread out on the net.

All the changes with SiriusXM lately boil down to two things: Lawyers, or Money.


Throw anthony into the mix and you've got a Zevon song.

I get it...you used to be in radio.

Now, XM/Sirius didnt have a problem with paltalk for all this time they have been together. Yet now if you want to listen to XM online, like you have to do at work, you now have to pay an additional fee. Or you have to pay their rates for the next two years to get it for free. What a fucking crock...they have offered this service for years and NOW they want to charge. Fuck em. I am glad I am able to hear the show through paltalk and also enjoy the aftershow meetings.

Then again, I guess I would be scrounging after every last dollar I could get when the stock is down to $0.38.

And I also love how you make a joke about people being cheap and you take it personally. Did I personally hone in on you?? No. Lighten up...Francis

[TripleSkeet]

Does this mean no more after show meetings from Ron & Fez for the Paltalkers? If so this new rule blows.

I love the people bitching about it. Like Ron pays so much attention to it. What bullshit. It hasnt taken away from the show at all. If anything it helped refresh it with a bunch of new freaks for Ronnie to tool on like Crazed, Spandy etc.

I never understood the crying about Paltalk. It just sounds like jealousy that some fans are getting attention from their favorite show. Maybe thats just how it comes across to me.

[Freitag]

I get it...you used to be in radio.

Now, XM/Sirius didnt have a problem with paltalk for all this time they have been together. Yet now if you want to listen to XM online, like you have to do at work, you now have to pay an additional fee. Or you have to pay their rates for the next two years to get it for free. What a fucking crock...they have offered this service for years and NOW they want to charge. Fuck em. I am glad I am able to hear the show through paltalk and also enjoy the aftershow meetings.

Then again, I guess I would be scrounging after every last dollar I could get when the stock is down to $0.38.

And I also love how you make a joke about people being cheap and you take it personally. Did I personally hone in on you?? No. Lighten up...Francis

You actually had to pay Sirius to listen online back in the day.

You also had to pay XM to hear O&A.

This really isn't an "us vs. them" issue, it's probably a SiriusXM vs. Paltalk issue.

[Freitag]

Does this mean no more after show meetings from Ron & Fez for the Paltalkers? If so this new rule blows.

I love the people bitching about it. Like Ron pays so much attention to it. What bullshit. It hasnt taken away from the show at all. If anything it helped refresh it with a bunch of new freaks for Ronnie to tool on like Crazed, Spandy etc.

I never understood the crying about Paltalk. It just sounds like jealousy that some fans are getting attention from their favorite show. Maybe thats just how it comes across to me.

Ron doesn't pay as much attention to it now, but it was a CLEAR distraction for Ron and Anthony back in the day.

I like the post-show meeting too. I just don't utilize PT for it.

[AKA]

PalTalker hater since day one.

I know if I had it, I'd love it, but I never did - those that have it are too close to see how its effect has not improved these radio shows. I won't say "ruined," but I never though it helped - I found it added one more barrier for me personally to connect.

Part of radio's appeal is the intimacy it gives you - you make people have to pay for that privilege, not once and twice for more and more access, and that shared experience dwindles. I love R&F and always will, but going from free to a pay service was a bit for me to even accept (I did, of course) - hell, even Ron made the point when he was on FM during a 2004 interview with Tom Shales.

[disneyspy]

i like hut so ill miss paltalk,as triple skeet said this does blow,hopefully they can still cover the post shows

[suggums]

but im gonna miss ron telling us about people folding clothes, its radio gold

[foodcourtdruide]

I never had any interest in paltalk. I feel bad because it seemed like some people really enjoyed it, but to be brutally honest I never really cared for it as a part of the show. It seemed like at times the show was being done for the few hundred (dozen? No idea how many people were in those rooms) in a Pal Talk room.

[foodcourtdruide]

Ron doesn't pay as much attention to it now, but it was a CLEAR distraction for Ron and Anthony back in the day.

I like the post-show meeting too. I just don't utilize PT for it.

I agree. I don't know how anyone could deny that Paltalk was a serious distraction at one point. I'm not even complaining about it, or saying it was necessarily a bad thing, but PalTalk did factor into the ebb and flow of the show.

[CurseoftheBambi]

i loved paltalk...but one good thing about it being over...wont have to see nobodies try to kiss up to ant's ass by being more racist than him...and no seeing TCL and other worthless people. :clap::lol::thumbup: but i do hope the chat rooms dont disappear even when the live room does...i do like some of those peeps.


FYI TripleCheese you better be on at nites!

[conman823]

Probably.

No one is ever happy with anything. Ever.

If it isn't paltalk... wait just a few days and it will be something else.

Said a person who is on it everyday.

I'm happy with a lot of things. Like no more Paltalk! See unfortunatley I listen to a Radio Show on the radio. God bless those of us who have all the time in the world to sit around staring into a camera on thier computer. Thats some golden life.

[Caseyelan]

Said a person who is on it everyday.

I'm happy with a lot of things. Like no more Paltalk! See unfortunatley I listen to a Radio Show on the radio. God bless those of us who have all the time in the world to sit around staring into a camera on thier computer. Thats some golden life.

Thanks for knowing me... Haven't been on in forever!!!

Kisses.

[conman823]

Does this mean no more after show meetings from Ron & Fez for the Paltalkers? If so this new rule blows.

I love the people bitching about it. Like Ron pays so much attention to it. What bullshit. It hasnt taken away from the show at all. If anything it helped refresh it with a bunch of new freaks for Ronnie to tool on like Crazed, Spandy etc.

I never understood the crying about Paltalk. It just sounds like jealousy that some fans are getting attention from their favorite show. Maybe thats just how it comes across to me.

Ron and Ant totally let Paltalk distract them, and if you haven't heard it then your delusional. I never understood how you can cater a show to a hand full of people, and why the "after show" just couldn't be aired for everyone to hear. I pay for my XM, and I want to listen to my radio shows. Fan interaction is great, but in the case of Paltalk limiting to people who have time to sit home and do nothing but be online during the show. I should be penalized for being a fan with a job and responsibilities who doesn't have all day to sit around and gawk into my computer like some drooling window licker? Fuck that! Instant Messages can at least be sent from a cell phone. Even Twitter can be cell phoned, which caters to a broader audience.

"Wow, so and so skank is getting dressed." "Wow so and so skank is just laying in bed." "Wow so and so skank says this" "Wow look at the rack on So and So Skank." "Let me stop the show and have a private conversation with so and so skank."

[KnoxHarrington]

I do agree that the net impact of Paltalk on the show has been more negative than positive. But my complaint about it isn't who's on it at all. My complaint -- especially when it comes to O&A -- is that the presence of Paltalk seems to make the hosts think of bits that are really visually based. They're doing this stuff that only really works if you see it, and not doing enough to explain what is going on to those of us listening on the radio.

You know, the ones who are actually paying for it.

[Chob]

i like hut so ill miss paltalk
I feel the same. Being a Sirius sub I'll have to get Best of XM to listen to R&F live now. Hopefully Sirius XM doesn't put a stop to the podcasts on Audible as well.

[disneyspy]

Ron and Ant totally let Paltalk distract them, and if you haven't heard it then your delusional. I never understood how you can cater a show to a hand full of people, and why the "after show" just couldn't be aired for everyone to hear. I pay for my XM, and I want to listen to my radio shows. Fan interaction is great, but in the case of Paltalk limiting to people who have time to sit home and do nothing but be online during the show. I should be penalized for being a fan with a job and responsibilities who doesn't have all day to sit around and gawk into my computer like some drooling window licker? Fuck that! Instant Messages can at least be sent from a cell phone. Even Twitter can be cell phoned, which caters to a broader audience.

"Wow, so and so skank is getting dressed." "Wow so and so skank is just laying in bed." "Wow so and so skank says this" "Wow look at the rack on So and So Skank." "Let me stop the show and have a private conversation with so and so skank."

i dont pay for paltalk and the aftershows are on for everybody,just ask,we nice people that help people that ask

[conman823]

Thanks for knowing me... Haven't been on in forever!!!

Kisses.

No, I haven't been on in forever. You have an account.

I just get this vibe that you don't like me much.:laugh:

[conman823]

i dont pay for paltalk and the aftershows are on for everybody,just ask,we nice people that help people that ask

Really its on my XM Radio? What station and time sir?

[disneyspy]

Really its on my XM Radio? What station and time sir?

im guessing you have a computer,go to www.hearustalk.com theres a RBI bein taped right now,join us in chat

[conman823]

im guessing you have a computer,go to www.hearustalk.com theres a RBI bein taped right now,join us in chat

Hmmmm.....Doesn't sound like a Sirius XM Website to me. Hear us talk is no channel I've ever heard on XM and I've had it for 5 years.

[disneyspy]

i'm sorry,i didnt mean to try and help you out,go back to bitchin if it makes you happy

[underdog]

Then again, I guess I would be scrounging after every last dollar I could get when the stock is down to $0.38.

Duh. You're criticizing a company that is losing money and is basically worthless for stopping people from doing stuff for free and making them pay for it.

But you're right. Sirius shouldn't worry about making money, I'm sure they'll be fine. Just let everyone listen for free.

i loved paltalk...but one good thing about it being over...wont have to see nobodies try to kiss up to ant's ass by being more racist than him...and no seeing TCL and other worthless people. :clap::lol::thumbup: but i do hope the chat rooms dont disappear even when the live room does...i do like some of those peeps.


FYI TripleCheese you better be on at nites!

TCL?

Ant will still be able to watch paltalk while he's on the air.

[underdog]

Ron and Ant totally let Paltalk distract them, and if you haven't heard it then your delusional. I never understood how you can cater a show to a hand full of people, and why the "after show" just couldn't be aired for everyone to hear. I pay for my XM, and I want to listen to my radio shows. Fan interaction is great, but in the case of Paltalk limiting to people who have time to sit home and do nothing but be online during the show. I should be penalized for being a fan with a job and responsibilities who doesn't have all day to sit around and gawk into my computer like some drooling window licker? Fuck that! Instant Messages can at least be sent from a cell phone. Even Twitter can be cell phoned, which caters to a broader audience.

"Wow, so and so skank is getting dressed." "Wow so and so skank is just laying in bed." "Wow so and so skank says this" "Wow look at the rack on So and So Skank." "Let me stop the show and have a private conversation with so and so skank."

No, I haven't been on in forever. You have an account.

I just get this vibe that you don't like me much.:laugh:

Really its on my XM Radio? What station and time sir?

I was against paltalk before, but now I think I'm for it. i hope they keep it around just to keep pissing you off.

[conman823]

i'm sorry,i didnt mean to try and help you out,go back to bitchin if it makes you happy

Don't you get my point though? It isn't about bitching, its about how I pay for a service and don't want to pay for another one, or have a show I pay to listen too pander to a select few in a video chat room.

Its a radio show. Dear god.....a radio show.

[Caseyelan]

No, I haven't been on in forever. You have an account.

I just get this vibe that you don't like me much.:laugh:

Who are you again?

you insult me being on paltalk... then we should go get tea or some shit?

I have a free account as I am an attention whore..... I'm sooooo glad you know me and my life so well.

Go get the mail.

[~Katja~]

Really its on my XM Radio? What station and time sir?

you are making the mistake to believe that the aftershow is a "show" when in fact it is just after show meetings that are being broadcasted through a different medium then your xm radio.
It's one of those things Ron and Fez do to let the fans in on their life and show beyond just the paid radio show portion...

[underdog]

Its a radio show. Dear god.....a radio show.

Ron & Fez is way more than just a radio show.

[CurseoftheBambi]

TCL = The Cunning Linguist he's neither cunning nor a Linguist...he's very much a "The" The what is the question. *and I'm sure he doesnt do much if any cunnilingus as his name is a joke of. *

And to say things are catered to visual...havent we all had to play the visual radio game on O&A from the good ol days of WNEW with 50 gallon drum changellnge (i can spell right all the time sue me) where we all wish we could have seen that hot girl in her panties all covered with gooey shit. or Wish we could have seen the girl doing the "what's in your pants bit (what happend to those anyway???) Its like stinky/spaz cam of old except more fan participation which has its postives (visual of what's going on in the show) to negatives see the talk of TLC and the like. I'm not bashing anyone's opinion about how it distracts from the show cause it does...even Opie mentioned it but like all things use becomes abuse...

(and some did/do have paltalk and an XM sub... some don't)

[~Katja~]

Don't you get my point though? It isn't about bitching, its about how I pay for a service and don't want to pay for another one, or have a show I pay to listen too pander to a select few in a video chat room.

Its a radio show. Dear god.....a radio show.

and with the free paltalk account you can listen in ...
what is your problem? You are acting like an entitled child.

[disneyspy]

Don't you get my point though? It isn't about bitching, its about how I pay for a service and don't want to pay for another one, or have a show I pay to listen too pander to a select few in a video chat room.

Its a radio show. Dear god.....a radio show.

somethin i've learned is radio shows are evolving,internets,IM,video feeds,pod casts are just where their at now,it'll be way different in 10 years so enjoy whats out there now.this isn't the ron and ron show that i loved but its better in different ways too

[mikeyboy]

No, I haven't been on in forever. You have an account.

I just get this vibe that you don't like me much.:laugh:

No. She means she hasn't been on in forever, and she was right in her initial post -- people will always find something to complain about.

Ron and Ant totally let Paltalk distract them, and if you haven't heard it then your delusional. I never understood how you can cater a show to a hand full of people, and why the "after show" just couldn't be aired for everyone to hear. I pay for my XM, and I want to listen to my radio shows. Fan interaction is great, but in the case of Paltalk limiting to people who have time to sit home and do nothing but be online during the show. I should be penalized for being a fan with a job and responsibilities who doesn't have all day to sit around and gawk into my computer like some drooling window licker? Fuck that! Instant Messages can at least be sent from a cell phone. Even Twitter can be cell phoned, which caters to a broader audience.

The after show is not broadcast on XM because it isn't a real show. Sometimes it's a meeting to plan later shows. Sometimes it's just random conversation. Sometimes they bring in people and interview them for RBI. Sometimes they just start playing music and singing along. Sometimes there are gaps with little or nothing. Once you put it on XM, there is a certain accountability to make it a real show, and the ability to just freeform and make it whatever they want to do at any given time. The fact that you seem outraged that it isn't on XM is pretty silly. The after-show is what I will miss most if Paltalk is completely pulled. They are a lot of fun.

I'm done arguing that Paltalk isn't that big of a deal. Yes, there was a time when both shows got too bogged down in it, but now the references to it are mostly in passing. The show has always been inside to a certain degree. Ron will make references that only a few will get, quickly in passing, even back on WNEW. This is similar, just in a different respect. Sometimes I wonder if the deification of Paltalk stems from jealousy, because if Paltalk truly ruins the show for you, you're a truly glass half full person.

[conman823]

and with the free paltalk account you can listen in ...
what is your problem? You are acting like an entitled child.

I've explained what my "problem" with Paltalk is already. As far as being entitled, some of the people on this board act like the entitled ones who have the cool inside line into the show. Since I started posting on here, I've brought up points from a "regular" listener point of view. I'm not the only one who's said Paltalk is a distraction, but I'm the one getting flamed in here. LMAO, Its unbelieveable.

[mikeyboy]

The other thing that gets brought up is that PT makes the show too visual. I honestly don't think that changed with Paltalk. There have always been visual bits on the show. The difference is that the listeners had to wait until Franklyn posted a video or the show sent me pics to post before getting the visual element.

[epo]

God bless the Paltalkers and I'm sure its fun for them. I'll say from my perspective the occasional inclusion of Pal Talk into the show didn't work for me as a person who consumes the show on a radio-only basis.

I'm generally not a fan of when the show dives into a message board, and I didn't like when they'd talk about Pal Talk.

[foodcourtdruide]

God bless the Paltalkers and I'm sure its fun for them. I'll say from my perspective the occasional inclusion of Pal Talk into the show didn't work for me as a person who consumes the show on a radio-only basis.

I'm generally not a fan of when the show dives into a message board, and I didn't like when they'd talk about Pal Talk.

Amen epo.

[Gvac]

I've never been a fan of Paltalk either. The cool thing about radio is that it's NOT TV.

Making it a weird kind of closed circuit community may have brought a very small percentage of fans closer to the show, but I honestly feel it alienated a lot more.

Again, just my personal thoughts and beliefs.

Which are almost always correct.

[disneyspy]

I'm generally not a fan of when the show dives into a message board.

i hated not knowing what they were talking about the messageboards,so i joined up,i might do the same with paltalk in the future,i dont know,the jackers and lack of WOW kinda keep me away from it

[conman823]

The other thing that gets brought up is that PT makes the show too visual. I honestly don't think that changed with Paltalk. There have always been visual bits on the show. The difference is that the listeners had to wait until Franklyn posted a video or the show sent me pics to post before getting the visual element.

Yeah and when the visual bits are posted on this site then it can be reached by a broader audience. Also that audience can view it when its convenient for them.

[Freitag]

wow, a thread where I make a point and mikey doesn't start browbeating me.

Well, it's a start!

[CurseoftheBambi]

the jackers made paltalk sexy....just saying...that guy who could put his cock in his ass...now that's talent!


Spandy putting his high heels in his ass while wearing a bra and tight leather pants oh yeah and jacking too ...not so much!

[Freitag]

I will give Paltalk credit in that it's generated some drama that's good for the show.

But it DOES get too inside sometimes if it's brought up.

(but again, I don't think this is a content issue by SiriusXM. It's a money issue or a lawyer issue)

[Hottub]

wow, a thread where I make a point and mikey doesn't start browbeating me.

Well, it's a start!

It's still early.

[epo]

i hated not knowing what they were talking about the messageboards,so i joined up,i might do the same with paltalk in the future,i dont know,the jackers and lack of WOW kinda keep me away from it

Don't lie...the rumors of the jackers is what had you thinking............

[CurseoftheBambi]

Too be fair there was a lot of "inside" stuff on WNEW that when it started getting syndicated. There was the New York City area audience...then it was the Boston Audience the Philly area and so on. A lot where nyc reference stuff that probably made the Boston and Philly area mad...esp the "original" WAAF fans.

[mikeyboy]

I've explained what my "problem" with Paltalk is already. As far as being entitled, some of the people on this board act like the entitled ones who have the cool inside line into the show. Since I started posting on here, I've brought up points from a "regular" listener point of view. I'm not the only one who's said Paltalk is a distraction, but I'm the one getting flamed in here. LMAO, Its unbelieveable.

Re-read your posts. I did. At worst they are insulting, at best they come off rude and condescending. I didn't see anyone flaming you short of Katja saying you are acting entitled, when you are a bit. A little decorum in posting goes a long way. If not, don't be surprised if people bristle when they respond to you.

[mikeyboy]

Yeah and when the visual bits are posted on this site then it can be reached by a broader audience. Also that audience can view it when its convenient for them.

Well, you still get all the pictures you used to get, so you still have that option. You don't always get video because Franklyn is never in the studio any more. That isn't a PalTalk thing, because before Paltalk, you would only get video if I went to the studio and shot it myself.

[disneyspy]

if ron and fez go to ustream or micload or any of those other placs to show whats going on after the show,i'll be there,ive just found a bunch of youtubes that i didnt know existed,back in the day you had to wait for the vhs to come out,i love living in today

[CurseoftheBambi]

That isn't a PalTalk thing, because before Paltalk, you would only get video if I went to the studio and shot it myself.

SLACKER! :nono:

(TEASING)

[epo]

Amen epo.

If only the rest of the board would see my wisdom. At least I can count on you Foodcourtdruide.

[disneyspy]

Don't lie...the rumors of the jackers is what had you thinking............

if i want to see jackers i just pop into the chat when you and snoogans are the only ones in there

[epo]

if i want to see jackers i just pop into the chat when you and snoogans are the only ones in there

You jack to Snoogans?

Creep.

[glenndog]

2 or 3 years ago I would have been running and jumping through the streets hearing this news.

now I could care less.

[Freitag]

Well, you still get all the pictures you used to get, so you still have that option. You don't always get video because Franklyn is never in the studio any more. That isn't a PalTalk thing, because before Paltalk, you would only get video if I went to the studio and shot it myself.

Miss Never-Workin' Mikey

[Brad in Bama]

I can say I've never looked at it, but I work all day so it's useless to me. However I think it's cool that the show hosts allowed "us" the collective listeners into the show. I sometimes thought that it was too inside, but I always thought it was cool that you could log on, make a funny or engaging comment and make it onto the show.

[Knowledged_one]

I've never been a fan of Paltalk either. The cool thing about radio is that it's NOT TV.

Making it a weird kind of closed circuit community may have brought a very small percentage of fans closer to the show, but I honestly feel it alienated a lot more.

Again, just my personal thoughts and beliefs.

Which are almost always correct.

almost always now you are just being modest

[scottinnj]

im guessing you have a computer,go to www.hearustalk.com theres a RBI bein taped right now,join us in chat

Where do you go to listen?

[scottinnj]

2 or 3 years ago I would have been running and jumping through the streets hearing this news.

now I could care less.

Exactly. PT used to be a major part of both shows, but if I say "distraction" I'm probably somewhat off.

Both shows jumped on PT in order to get the word out about their satellite shows and it seemed for a while they were thinking of ways to make the shows and PT work together.
And about the same time, both shows backed off the PT talk, seemingly simultaneously realizing that PT is great for those who have it to be able to "see" the radio show, but as a tool to make the show better, it wasn't working.

[BlackSpider]

Just because they won't have the cams, doesn't mean they'l stop watching it...

[PD]

I am no fan of Paltalk -
but after just perusing this thread, I saw a couple who complained that Paltallk has made the shows too inside.

Maybe I'm wrong, but wasn't R&F ALWAYS a bit inside?
going back to the ronandfez.com days, there were always regulars.

I don't see it any different in that respect.

Paltalk isn't the problem.

[Tenbatsuzen]

going back to the ronandfez.com days, there were always regulars.




Shit, you go back to the Walter Winchell days.

[PD]

Shit, you go back to the Walter Winchell days.

you know it.

I get all of Fez's references.

[Heather 8]

Again, just my personal thoughts and beliefs.

Which are almost always correct.

It's not very cold outside.

[Gvac]

It's not very cold outside.

You know nothing, silly wench.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I may not have been a big advocate of PT, but I never thought it was destroying the R&F show in any way. I find things like Rorschach Rants and IrishAlkey's memo to Reilly fucking exceptional. They'll just find another thing to "get distracted on"- and it'll be neither good nor bad. It'll just be.

Honestly, having O&A on CBS killed alot more potential subscribers to satellite than PT ever did. It's not even close.

[Enabler]

TCL = The Cunning Linguist he's neither cunning nor a Linguist...



Discuss

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I personally dont care about paltalk or its involvement with the show. What are we talking about even? The few times Ron would talk directly to Frenchy, or comment that Angelfuck was hitting a one-y? I mean, Ive never met any of these people but it was fairly easy to follow along. That being said, I wont miss it now that it is "gone."

[glenndog]

I've never had a paltalk so I am not sure but I thought ron and fez just started camming up in the last few months not counting payoff episodes.

[CurseoftheBambi]

Enabler you're so Butta!:thumbup:

[Mexican_Radio]

sounds like a smart business move.

[NewYorkDragons80]

As long as Sirius eventually gives the option of a studio cam for fans to watch the show, I think this is a good thing.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I personally dont care about paltalk or its involvement with the show. What are we talking about even? The few times Ron would talk directly to Frenchy, or comment that Angelfuck was hitting a one-y? I mean, Ive never met any of these people but it was fairly easy to follow along. That being said, I wont miss it now that it is "gone."

pretty much. Ron will mention whats going on in paltalk with the same vague passing reference as he does with people hes gone to dinner with the night before or something that happened at his home...Ron does a lot of vague references to his life and i've never seen anyone complain "We don't know exactly what hes talking about!!!"

but people on any messageboard always cry about other internet activities that they aren't a part of like its the worst thing ever. Its so cartoon-y and gay. The worst is, whatever is new in the internet, the person will go "why would i want to do THAT all day, i have a life!" even though 99% of all people who uses the new internet thingy probably uses it for 5mins a day. Its just this weird jealousy thing that blows it all out of proportion.

[~Katja~]

As long as Sirius eventually gives the option of a studio cam for fans to watch the show, I think this is a good thing.

I cant see why they wouldn't... a lot of fm stations even had the studio cams streaming live on their websites

[Whiskeyportal]

they could always password protect the room also

[Chob]

As long as Sirius eventually gives the option of a studio cam for fans to watch the show, I think this is a good thing.
That would be a good incentive to sign up to XM or Best of XM if that was included in the subscription. But I doubt they'd give it away at no additional charge.

[Enabler]

Enabler you're so Butta!:thumbup:



No big whoop.

[Dell]

pretty much. Ron will mention whats going on in paltalk with the same vague passing reference as he does with people hes gone to dinner with the night before or something that happened at his home...Ron does a lot of vague references to his life and i've never seen anyone complain "We don't know exactly what hes talking about!!!"

but people on any messageboard always cry about other internet activities that they aren't a part of like its the worst thing ever. Its so cartoon-y and gay. The worst is, whatever is new in the internet, the person will go "why would i want to do THAT all day, i have a life!" even though 99% of all people who uses the new internet thingy probably uses it for 5mins a day. Its just this weird jealousy thing that blows it all out of proportion.

I thought some people presented rational reasons for not liking paltalk on a radio show and its a unfairly belittling to say that those with opinions counter to yours are cartoon-y, gay, or a product of weird jealousy. We can reduce all of the debates on this board to that, but it tends to get old.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I thought some people presented rational reasons for not liking paltalk on a radio show and its a unfairly belittling to say that those with opinions counter to yours are cartoon-y, gay, or a product of weird jealousy. We can reduce all of the debates on this board to that, but it tends to get old.

of course i can. i can have an opinion on peoples opinions...you have an opinion on my opinion. i dont get what your saying

[CurseoftheBambi]

No big whoop.

Oh I'm a little verklempt!


Talk amongst yourselves. I'll give you a topic...Paltalk was never a pal nor did it talk to you...Discuss.

[conman823]

of course i can. i can have an opinion on peoples opinions...you have an opinion on my opinion. i dont get what your saying

So my reasons weren't valid? I just don't use the technology, so therefore I cannot voice MY opinion.

but people on any messageboard always cry about other internet activities that they aren't a part of like its the worst thing ever. Its so cartoon-y and gay. The worst is, whatever is new in the internet, the person will go "why would i want to do THAT all day, i have a life!" even though 99% of all people who uses the new internet thingy probably uses it for 5mins a day. Its just this weird jealousy thing that blows it all out of proportion.

Wow, and I was accused of being "condesending" in this thread.

[GreatAmericanZero]

So my reasons weren't valid? I just don't use the technology, so therefore I cannot voice MY opinion.



Wow, and I was accused of being "condesending" in this thread.

well in my defense, my post was a general post about people complaining about any new internet thing that pops up (i read the same stuff with twitter and myspace and whatever..) but i do think the complaints about paltalk on the Ron&Fez show are blown way out of proportion and are ridiculous

with O&A its hard to say because the argument of Anthony not "being in" the show can be used, but the "they do stuff in studio for 100 people in a room" doesn't work because its probably been 3 years since they did a stunt for paltalk

[Dell]

of course i can. i can have an opinion on peoples opinions...you have an opinion on my opinion. i dont get what your saying

I didn't have an opinion on your opinion. I just didn't think it was necessary to start the playground taunts and name calling because someone presented an opposing opinion. You win... they are all just a bunch of cartoon-y, gay, jealous weirdos... can't argue against such salient opinions as that.

[Gvac]

THINK LIKE ME OR YOU'RE STUPID!!!

That's the worst thing about message boards and fan sites, not honest critique.

Look at the beating #1Fan of ESD took in another thread because he posted his thoughts and beliefs.

[Foster]

THINK LIKE ME OR YOU'RE STUPID!!!

That's the worst thing about message boards and fan sites, not honest critique.

Look at the beating #1 ESD Fan took in another thread because he posted his thoughts and beliefs.

hey...you shouldn't think like that...

[underdog]

Look at the beating #1Fan of ESD took in another thread because he posted his thoughts and beliefs.

He took a beating because he was just making stuff up.

And he called us attack sheep. What the fuck is an attack sheep?

[STC-Dub]

That means no more post-show meetings!:thumbdown:

[MC Pee Pants]

Fuck That Gay Ass Shit!

[Dell]

Fuck That Gay Ass Shit!

oddly hot :wub:

[Dan G]

That means no more post-show meetings!:thumbdown:

I was under the impression that the post-show meetings would cease once the shows moved to the Sirius building.

Won't be easy to get away with things with studio walls being all windows.

[ToiletCrusher]

The carbonite monster hates paltalk.

[Gvac]

What the fuck is an attack sheep?

I suggest you check this out. (http://www.best-horror-movies.com/black-sheep.html)

[scottinnj]

Honestly, having O&A on CBS killed alot more potential subscribers to satellite than PT ever did. It's not even close.

QFT

[AKA]

I suggest you check this out. (http://www.best-horror-movies.com/black-sheep.html)

GRRRRRRR! (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2186982#post2186982)

[TripleSkeet]

I've explained what my "problem" with Paltalk is already. As far as being entitled, some of the people on this board act like the entitled ones who have the cool inside line into the show. Since I started posting on here, I've brought up points from a "regular" listener point of view. I'm not the only one who's said Paltalk is a distraction, but I'm the one getting flamed in here. LMAO, Its unbelieveable.

But your points are fucking retarded. Im a Paltalker, but guess what? I listen to most of the show in the car. And they hardly mention Paltalk on R & F anymore.

Secondly, the aftershow meeting isnt a punishment for you, the "regular" listener. Whatever the fuck that is. Its basically Ron & Fez being cool and leaving the mics on while they do their work. They dont owe you that aftershow entertainment. You get the show you pay for when you subscribe to XM.

And Paltalk is free. So stop crying about how you shouldnt have to pay for another service. It not only makes you sound cheap but lazy too.

Mikeyboy hit it right on the head when he said it was jealousy. Fans hate seeing other fans get more attention then them. Its not just with satellite, every radio show has regulars that call up and get special treatment not just from the hosts but from call screeners as well. Get over it.

Oh and I got it from Dean that the aftershow meetings end with Sirius. Another cool thing for the fans, taken away for no fucking reason.

[Don Stugots]

THINK LIKE ME OR YOU'RE STUPID!!!

That's the worst thing about message boards and fan sites, not honest critique.

Look at the beating #1Fan of ESD took in another thread because he posted his thoughts and beliefs.


You're stupid.

[Jeffdc5]

good now if sirius would tell ron to stop texting on the show you can hear him lose his train of thought so he can text htg or whatever groupie cant wait for 2:45

[STC-Dub]

Yeah, that happens all of the time. I must be listening to a different show or something. That happens like once a week? And who says it because he is texting?

[Fallon]

good now if sirius would tell ron to stop texting on the show you can hear him lose his train of thought so he can text htg or whatever groupie cant wait for 2:45

You hear the phone, then Ron bringing up what the person said. It's his personal instant feedback.

Most of the time it's funny shit.

[Ricky24]

You hear the phone, then Ron bringing up what the person said. It's his personal instant feedback.

Most of the time it's funny shit.

Hello. Does East Side Dave post here? I think he is great and was curious. Henderson

[nixonfingers]

Well I, for one, will be happy when Paltalk is gone, and when Ron stops checking texts during the show.

[foodcourtdruide]

Mikeyboy hit it right on the head when he said it was jealousy. Fans hate seeing other fans get more attention then them. Its not just with satellite, every radio show has regulars that call up and get special treatment not just from the hosts but from call screeners as well. Get over it.



I cannot comprehend how jealousy factors into this.

[Dell]

I cannot comprehend how jealousy factors into this.

I think she validated it by letting you know that Mikeboy said it... so it must be true (although I don't remember that post)... not to mention that she pointed out that people that don't like paltalk on their radio shows are just "fucking retarded" (or at least their opinions are)... great debate on the pros and cons

[~Katja~]

I think she validated it by letting you know that Mikeboy said it... so it must be true (although I don't remember that post)... not to mention that she pointed out that people that don't like paltalk on their radio shows are just "fucking retarded" (or at least their opinions are)... great debate on the pros and cons

skeet is a dude...

[Dell]

skeet is a dude...

oops... avatar threw me off :unsure:

[~Katja~]

oops... avatar threw me off :unsure:

yeah I know your thing for avi's... if the boobs are too big they MUST go :tongue:

[Dell]

yeah I know your thing for avi's... if the boobs are too big they MUST go :tongue:

yeah... but your detective skills proved that I was not the first to be distracted :smile:

[#1FanofESD]

Probably.

No one is ever happy with anything. Ever.

If it isn't paltalk... wait just a few days and it will be something else.

Says the queen of Paltalk.

[TripleSkeet]

I think she validated it by letting you know that Mikeboy said it... so it must be true (although I don't remember that post)... not to mention that she pointed out that people that don't like paltalk on their radio shows are just "fucking retarded" (or at least their opinions are)... great debate on the pros and cons

Maybe if you learned to read youd understand my debating skills.

1. What I referred to as retarded was the points conman was using for his hatred of Paltalk. Basically saying that he shouldnt have to pay for it when he pays for XM (its free), that Ron spends too much time talking about it (he barely mentions it anymore), and that fans were being punished for not being on Paltalk by not being able to listen to the aftershow meetings (AFTER show meetings. Something that no fan is entitled to. Paying for XM doesnt entitle you to bonus material)

2. If you think that I agree with everything Mikeyboy says you obviously dont pay attention to the board much. Just like everyone else on here, some things I agree with, some things I dont.

3. I say jealousy as in alot of the hate HTG, Casey and others take when they are mentioned on the show. These people are FRIENDS of Ron and Fez. But people seem to think that because they are also fans, they shouldnt get any more mention then any other fan. It doesnt work that way.

[drusilla]

sounds like a smart business move.

basically. it was a way for me to listen to the show online without paying for the online xm feed. i also used hearustalk.com. i'm guessing that's gonna go away too.

fucking sirius. they've basically done everything they can to make xm subscribers hate their guts.

[TripleSkeet]

basically. it was a way for me to listen to the show online without paying for the online xm feed. i also used hearustalk.com. i'm guessing that's gonna go away too.

fucking sirius. they've basically done everything they can to make xm subscribers hate their guts.

You can still listen to them on Paltalk. They just wont be streaming it or have their Paltalk cams up. One of the room members will stream it like before.

[drusilla]

hopefully. i did like hearustalk better though. it wouldn't freeze & boot me off all the time like paltalk express.

[conman823]

But your points are fucking retarded. Im a Paltalker, but guess what? I listen to most of the show in the car. And they hardly mention Paltalk on R & F anymore.

Secondly, the aftershow meeting isnt a punishment for you, the "regular" listener. Whatever the fuck that is. Its basically Ron & Fez being cool and leaving the mics on while they do their work. They dont owe you that aftershow entertainment. You get the show you pay for when you subscribe to XM.

And Paltalk is free. So stop crying about how you shouldnt have to pay for another service. It not only makes you sound cheap but lazy too.

Mikeyboy hit it right on the head when he said it was jealousy. Fans hate seeing other fans get more attention then them. Its not just with satellite, every radio show has regulars that call up and get special treatment not just from the hosts but from call screeners as well. Get over it.

Oh and I got it from Dean that the aftershow meetings end with Sirius. Another cool thing for the fans, taken away for no fucking reason.

First to answer your far to emotional post of childish babble:

A regular listener is someone who listens to a show that they love without necessarily taking part in all the uber-fan extra stuff. If you are someone like that, then maybe you would not like to hear about Messageboard Drama and who's doing what on Paltalk AFTER the show goes off the air.
All that extra stuff is great, but don't be surprised when a thread like this pops up from someone who doesn't like to hear about it all the time. Yeah Yeah I know, Ron barely mentions paltalk anymore.
I also never said the after show was punishment, so I don't know where that came from.

I'm hardly cheap or lazy, and as someone is oft to mention to me you don't know how I live so mind your business.

And finally, I want to address this whole "jealousy" issue. Now me personally, I am hardly jealous of peoples personal relationships with the show that they love. Hey if Ronnie B has you over for birthday cake and Thanksgiving dinner every year good for you. I've wanted to make it up too the studio myself plenty of times, but unfortunatley my work shifts etc don't really jive with that. I'm actually sad that I won't have that option anymore starting next week. Anyway to the point, and I've said this in other threads to Mikeyboy, if you are so close to the show isn't safe to say your objectivity is somewhat compromised? Isn't safe to say you have crossed from "regular listener" and can never look at it from that view point anymore?

See if you are that close to the show then YOUR the entitiled one, you get 100% of the show. If your just a regular fan then you get 90%, at best, 93% if your a long time listener. I've argued in other thread about how I feel there are ways to broaden fan interaction with more listeners so I won't go into that again.

I started this thread KNOWING 100% THAT IT WOULD START A REACTION LIKE THIS. I was board one night so I wanted to stir up some shit. Some points were valid on both sides. I WAS A DICK WAD SARCASTIC PRICK ON PURPOSE to try and get a rise out of some people, and it was fun. Still, it was all based in reality somewhat because I hate Paltalk, it can go fuck itself and glad to see it gone.

[TripleSkeet]

I'm hardly cheap or lazy, and as someone is oft to mention to me you don't know how I live so mind your business.



Don't you get my point though? It isn't about bitching, its about how I pay for a service and don't want to pay for another one



Ok this was my point. Paltalk is free. So making this comment either makes you look cheap for not wanting to spend $60 to upgrade, or lazy because you dont feel like joining up with it to begin with. Not saying you have to, but if your point was "why should I have to pay again?" well...thats my response.


I also never said the after show was punishment, so I don't know where that came from.

. I never understood how you can cater a show to a hand full of people, and why the "after show" just couldn't be aired for everyone to hear. I pay for my XM, and I want to listen to my radio shows.

This was how I interpreted that statement. If I misinterpreted it, fine. But thats why I made that comment.

And dude, I dont care if these threads pop up. Your not getting a rise out of me. I was just pointing out what I thought were flaws in your argument. The only thing that annoys me about the Paltalk thing is that we are gonna lose the aftershow meetings. Which were really alot of fun. As far as everything else goes, I mean I dont think its going to have the effect you seem to.

The hosts will still be able to go into Paltalk rooms on their computers and read whats being said. The rooms will still broadcast the show. The only difference is XM will not be doing the live streams and there wont be any paltalk cameras in the studio. (Thats what it sounds like anyway). So dont be surprised if things dont drastically change like you may be expecting.

[Dell]

Maybe if you learned to read youd understand my debating skills.

1. What I referred to as retarded was the points conman was using for his hatred of Paltalk. Basically saying that he shouldnt have to pay for it when he pays for XM (its free), that Ron spends too much time talking about it (he barely mentions it anymore), and that fans were being punished for not being on Paltalk by not being able to listen to the aftershow meetings (AFTER show meetings. Something that no fan is entitled to. Paying for XM doesnt entitle you to bonus material)

2. If you think that I agree with everything Mikeyboy says you obviously dont pay attention to the board much. Just like everyone else on here, some things I agree with, some things I dont.

3. I say jealousy as in alot of the hate HTG, Casey and others take when they are mentioned on the show. These people are FRIENDS of Ron and Fez. But people seem to think that because they are also fans, they shouldnt get any more mention then any other fan. It doesnt work that way.

Reading is hard... don't tease me.

You use middle school taunts like "retarded" to describe the other person's opinion and claim it to be your debating "skills." Okay... not knowing of any prerequisites for entry into a debate on R&F.net, I will no longer comment on your debating skills. Debate away.

Your bringing fans of the show into this reply to justify calling the guy jealous was odd (but I must remember your skill level). Your original retort was...

"Mikeyboy hit it right on the head when he said it was jealousy. Fans hate seeing other fans get more attention then them."

Which I took as a way to degrade the other person and thus his opinion without actually engaging in debate.

You may have the last word, I cannot be expected to debate you at your skill level. I am off to work on my reading.

[TripleSkeet]

Reading is hard... don't tease me.

You use middle school taunts like "retarded" to describe the other person's opinion and claim it to be your debating "skills." Okay... not knowing of any prerequisites for entry into a debate on R&F.net, I will no longer comment on your debating skills. Debate away.

Your bringing fans of the show into this reply to justify calling the guy jealous was odd (but I must remember your skill level). Your original retort was...

"Mikeyboy hit it right on the head when he said it was jealousy. Fans hate seeing other fans get more attention then them."

Which I took as a way to degrade the other person and thus his opinion without actually engaging in debate.

You may have the last word, I cannot be expected to debate you at your skill level. I am off to work on my reading.


Basically you have no response to the points I made, so you answer by dwelling on an insulting adjective I used to describe a post.

I had already debated him before I mentioned Mikeyboys post, which I still agree with.

But you just keep responding to the little jabs while ignoring the whole point of the post. Thats the true sign that you have no answer to the point given. Next time maybe you can try and correct puncuation.

[Dell]

Basically you have no response to the points I made, so you answer by dwelling on an insulting adjective I used to describe a post.

I had already debated him before I mentioned Mikeyboys post, which I still agree with.

But you just keep responding to the little jabs while ignoring the whole point of the post. Thats the true sign that you have no answer to the point given. Next time maybe you can try and correct puncuation.

I'm sorry. I know I promised you the last word, but it just occurred to me that the "middle school" comment I made may have hit too close to home. I apologize if you are still in middle school (there is nothing wrong with that). Keep up the great posts.

Oh yeah... how can I correct punctuation if I don't even know how to read? (You may want to start cross referencing your own posts.) :bye:

[hanso]

Lets have no fan interaction what so ever.
We all know both shows are not "inside"
Any new listener should be able to pick it up on day one.

Take away what Ant likes/is into. You will get Politics
for the first hour like the last few shows I've heard. Same goes for Ron we will get what ever he likes to rant about.

Lock them in a closet under a 40w light to read USA Today so everyone is in on it.
Ok let them read Hater mail that will be the only interaction.

[Foster]

Lets have no fan interaction what so ever.
We all know both shows are not "inside"
Any new listener should be able to pick it up on day one.

Take away what Ant likes/is into. You will get Politics
for the first hour like the last few shows I've heard. Same goes for Ron we will get what ever he likes to rant about.

Lock them in a closet under a 40w light to read USA Today so everyone is in on it.
Ok let them read Hater mail that will be the only interaction.

those don't sound like very fun shows at all

[beachbum]

Isn't the issue with Paltalk going away a monetary one?Why would Sirius/XM allow live streaming of exclusive show content to people who are not subscribers?Why did XM allow it for so long?

It was inevitable that one day it would have to end.No offense to Paltalk members but paying for your upgraded Paltalk membership did not put any money into Sirius/XM's pockets.It's kinda like stealing cable.It's great until they catch you and then you have to pay.

This might encourage more board participation though.

[hanso]

Free plugs & a list celebs giving the brush off for interviews have been par for the course for a long time.

[TooLowBrow]

few people on the internet are listening to the radio

o+a's best chance to get their name out was with audio AND video




no one can go back and rewatch the paltalk shows

you CAN listen to them

paltalk was like buying a one time pay per view
xm/sirius should make their own paltalk

[conman823]

xm/sirius should make their own paltalk

If the company wasn't in a financial tailspin they might try doing something like that.

Still it kinda defeats the whole "radio" purpose. Stern did it right with his E Show. Take a bit, edit it down, and air it.

SiriusXM might do well to take that formula and create a free youtube channel like that. it would allow people who want to see the bits watch them, and it would promote their product.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for progression of technology, but not at the expensive of your larger fan base who doesn't participate in that segment of the show.

[TooLowBrow]

Don't get me wrong I'm all for progression of technology, but not at the expensive of your larger fan base who doesn't participate in that segment of the show.

just the fact that you COULD participate in the show made it great

most tv or radio news shows and talk shows are using skype, twitter, facebook , whatever to recap and enhance their shows. why not use paltalk?

[hanso]

I used to catch the shows on my days off.(on paltalk) It was great.

[TripleSkeet]

Isn't the issue with Paltalk going away a monetary one?Why would Sirius/XM allow live streaming of exclusive show content to people who are not subscribers?Why did XM allow it for so long?

It was inevitable that one day it would have to end.No offense to Paltalk members but paying for your upgraded Paltalk membership did not put any money into Sirius/XM's pockets.It's kinda like stealing cable.It's great until they catch you and then you have to pay.

This might encourage more board participation though.

Its still gonna be streamed, (and most likely still up on the screen in the studio) the only thing thats gonna change is no cameras in studio and the studio itself wont be streaming it.

All it takes is one person with their XM/Sirius on and a microphone.

[conman823]

All it takes is one person with their XM/Sirius on and a microphone.

Yeah Man! Viva La Paltalk!! Viva La Distractions!!

[TripleSkeet]

Yeah Man! Viva La Paltalk!! Viva La Distractions!!

Doesnt take anything away from my enjoyment. At the end of the day thats all I really care about. Screw the rest of ya.

[conman823]

Doesnt take anything away from my enjoyment. At the end of the day thats all I really care about. Screw the rest of ya.

Its all about YOU isn't it?:nono:

[Don Stugots]

Its still gonna be streamed, (and most likely still up on the screen in the studio) the only thing thats gonna change is no cameras in studio and the studio itself wont be streaming it.

All it takes is one person with their XM/Sirius on and a microphone.

and that is what management should be cracking down on, theft of services.

[disneyspy]

i wish justjon would take a laptop into the studio and click up the r&f.net chatroom and just leave it on,we could watch it on the chatroom and hear it on our XMs

[TripleSkeet]

and that is what management should be cracking down on, theft of services.

Good luck with that.

Thats where you get into the whole theft vs. sharing argument. If I get into a car and listen to a friends cd should I have to pay the record company for listening to it?

Should the record companies get money for the music played in some of the other rooms?

You cant stop piracy, especially in the internet age. Movies, music, tv, radio...theres always gonna be some way for people to get it for free.

Besides how stupid would it be to spend money on lawyers to stop the 300-400 people that show up to the rooms during the show anyway?

[paulisded]

Good luck with that.

Thats where you get into the whole theft vs. sharing argument. If I get into a car and listen to a friends cd should I have to pay the record company for listening to it?

Don't give the record labels any ideas. :)

Should the record companies get money for the music played in some of the other rooms?

No, but technically, they're supposed to.

You cant stop piracy, especially in the internet age. Movies, music, tv, radio...theres always gonna be some way for people to get it for free.

Besides how stupid would it be to spend money on lawyers to stop the 300-400 people that show up to the rooms during the show anyway?

They wouldn't have to involve the lawyers. One phone call from a company rep can (at least temporarily) shut down any room that infringes on copyrights. They don't because those that would care don't know about it. Just like the WWE would issue Paltalk cease and desist orders within minutes if they were aware there are a half dozen or so rooms streaming each of their ppv's.

[TripleSkeet]

They wouldn't have to involve the lawyers. One phone call from a company rep can (at least temporarily) shut down any room that infringes on copyrights. They don't because those that would care don't know about it. Just like the WWE would issue Paltalk cease and desist orders within minutes if they were aware there are a half dozen or so rooms streaming each of their ppv's.

True. But I think, especially with the Satellite radio rooms, as soon as they close one down a new invite-only room would open right back up airing it.

[JustJon]

i wish justjon would take a laptop into the studio and click up the r&f.net chatroom and just leave it on,we could watch it on the chatroom and hear it on our XMs

I didn't bring cigars, so I didn't get in studio.

[disneyspy]

I didn't bring cigars, so I didn't get in studio.

go in and see fez,you know,take one for the team

[STC-Dub]

go in and see fez,you know,take one for the team

Would he still be a part of the team or part of a new one after that?

[disneyspy]

Would he still be a part of the team or part of a new one after that?

hes proven that he can do more than one thing at a time,i think its called a muti-taker

[NewYorkDragons80]

I used to catch the shows on my days off.(on paltalk) It was great.

So the Ron and Fez show should be geared towards the 200 or so people who happen to be home from work, work at home, or don't work to begin with? That oughta pay the bills.

[conman823]

Good luck with that.

Thats where you get into the whole theft vs. sharing argument. If I get into a car and listen to a friends cd should I have to pay the record company for listening to it?

Should the record companies get money for the music played in some of the other rooms?

You cant stop piracy, especially in the internet age. Movies, music, tv, radio...theres always gonna be some way for people to get it for free.

Besides how stupid would it be to spend money on lawyers to stop the 300-400 people that show up to the rooms during the show anyway?

Still without the video feed from the studio all your doing is LISTENING to a radio show and chatting with people. Isn't there a listening thread you can do that with on this site without having to be a Paltalk member?

Without the video from the studio Paltalk is worthless to the "enjoyment" factor of the show.

Can anyone actually answer why Ron just threw away the Instant Feedback option for the show?

[Drunky McBetidont]

i just registered as a muslim jacker too. boooooooooo.

[TripleSkeet]

Still without the video feed from the studio all your doing is LISTENING to a radio show and chatting with people. Isn't there a listening thread you can do that with on this site without having to be a Paltalk member?

Without the video from the studio Paltalk is worthless to the "enjoyment" factor of the show.

Can anyone actually answer why Ron just threw away the Instant Feedback option for the show?

Um....I never really participated in the listening thread on here before, but arent you actually listening to the show either on XM online or an XM radio and then just posting in the thread like we do here?

Why would I do that when I can listen on Paltalk for $60 a year and still go on to talk to friends on there when the shows not on. Plus why would I want to constantly have to refresh and try to catch up with every post when I can talk to friends and comment on the show in a real time chatroom?

I dont need video to enjoy the show on Paltalk. To me its the equivalent of hanging out with a bunch of friends and enjoying a comedy show. Only the room happens to be virtual instead of real.

[hanso]

If you take when the shows say "on paltalk" backwards.
It will say hail satan.





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