Do YOU think of the Jewish as white?

[Scanty]

This heated argument came up on my fine fine super fine YouTube account (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGScpbaSuys), with some people saying that our favored crackpot comedian Rich Vos is NOT of the white persuasion, him being known as a self proclaimed Jewish "man". Do YOU agree with them ham 'n' egger? These irrational people, they thought of Judaism as a race and as a religion, both intermingled, like two people fucking. Both of which I don't agree with ... after all, these two are too very separate things. I think of the Israeli people, the Israelis, as a nationality and a race, and Judaism as a religion, with arms apart, wide open and extended, welcoming, with a little smile. In my view of these two things, both, race and religion, they are disconnected, both withdrawn, like proper asexuals.
That said, me growing up, I was thought to be a Christian, but any day now, mind you, I could turn to Judaism on a whim by choosing to convert. Any day now ...
So, what does that tell you? Am I wrong, and are THEY right? Or, the opposite? Or NOT either? I hope that your mind has been properly fucked. That I took my dick out, fucked your mind, and came in it, and I hope you enjoyed everything, I know I did. ;)

[Dude!]

Do YOU think of the Jewish as white?

hell no

but they probably are, technically speaking
but then so are arabs and indians

[Marc with a c]

of course not.

[epo]

I don't think of Jewish as color, but rather religion.

Its only the definition.

[TheMojoPin]

Technically, no, but funk it. Most people aren't "white" these days.

[Judge Smails]

Sure. Some can even be pasty-white redheads.

http://ronfez.net/forums/image.php?u=26687&dateline=1237854979

[IMSlacker]

almost.

[MBruce]

I'm German/English, and grew up with a ton of jewish friends. I never thought they weren't just like me, except for all the chanukah/ny mets/"blanche knott jokebooks in the john" sorta stuff.

[MacVittie]

Absolutely not.

http://weblogs.amny.com/entertainment/urbanite/blog/sammydavisjr.jpg

[Marc with a c]

they are however significantly whiter than italians.

[~Katja~]

they are however significantly whiter than eye-talians.

I agree

[GreatAmericanZero]

atleast whiter than italians

[Hottub]

JustJon is fairly pasty.

[Marc with a c]

atleast whiter than italians

stop hippoing this thing up.

[Scanty]

Sure. Some can even be pasty-white redheads.

http://ronfez.net/forums/image.php?u=26687&dateline=1237854979

I love that baby. That baby is a symbol for my righteousness. I spike that baby, and claim victory!!!! (Football Style)

[razorboy]

At the very least they're whiter than Italians.

[Marc with a c]

At the very least they're whiter than Italians.

stop being so gazzy.

[CuntagiousChris]

Yes

[epo]

At the very least they're whiter than Italians.

Who isn't?

[WampusCrandle]

Sure. Some can even be pasty-white redheads.

http://ronfez.net/forums/image.php?u=26687&dateline=1237854979

an adorable little girl!

atleast whiter than italians

agreed!

[razorboy]

Who isn't?

Sicilians.

[Friday]

um.
like epo said, Judaism is a Religion... not a race or even an ethnicity.
duh.

[Dude!]

um.
like epo said, Judaism is a Religion... not a race or even an ethnicity.
duh.

yes Judaism is a religion

but the question was about "the Jewish"

the Jewish are also a PEOPLE
semites
a tribe, as it were

duh

[DarkHippie]

I am a Jew

anyone who calls me white can go fuck themselves.

White people are the ones that butcher jews. They burn us at the stake, rape our women in pogroms, burn our bodies in ovens, and they've been doing it for 2000 years. The only reason that jewish skin is white now is because they've been raped so much that it has changed the gene pool.

DONT EVER FUCKING ASSOCIATE ME WITH THEM!!!!

[Dude!]

I am a Jew

anyone who calls me white can go fuck themselves.

White people are the ones that butcher jews. They burn us at the stake, rape our women in pogroms, burn our bodies in ovens, and they've been doing it for 2000 years. The only reason that jewish skin is white now is because they've been raped so much that it has changed the gene pool.

DONT EVER FUCKING ASSOCIATE ME WITH THEM!!!!

white people don't even
like to touch jews
much less rape them

[underdog]

I am a Jew

anyone who calls me white can go fuck themselves.

White people are the ones that butcher jews. They burn us at the stake, rape our women in pogroms, burn our bodies in ovens, and they've been doing it for 2000 years. The only reason that jewish skin is white now is because they've been raped so much that it has changed the gene pool.

DONT EVER FUCKING ASSOCIATE ME WITH THEM!!!!

What's up, cracker?

[Scanty]

The only reason that jewish skin is white now is because they've been raped so much that it has changed the gene pool.


Nevertheless ... So you are telling me that your skin is white!?

:clap:

[razorboy]

white people don't even
like to touch jews

As a white guy who was (mostly) happily maried to a JAP for a number of years, I respectfully disagree.

[sailor]

As a white guy who was (mostly) happily maried to a JAP for a number of years, I respectfully disagree.

rapist!

[razorboy]

rapist!

That was our little roleplay game. You leave it alone!

[sailor]

That was our little roleplay game. You leave it alone!

i never said it wasn't hot.

[DarkHippie]

Nevertheless ... So you are telling me that your skin is white!?

:clap:

its more of a tan. I get pretty dark when in the sun though. In the summer time my dad looks like a terrorist

[Farmer Dave]

They are only allowed to drive through or fly over iowa so I have no idea.

[earthbrown]

Being jewish can be ethnic or religious.

An ethnic jew could be a christian, and you dont need to be ethnically jewish to be a jew.

I would think that there is a jewish linage that would genetically associate ethnic jews with Arabs.

I could care either way.

K

[DarkHippie]

Being jewish can be ethnic or religious.

An ethnic jew could be a christian, and you dont need to be ethnically jewish to be a jew.

I would think that there is a jewish linage that would genetically associate ethnic jews with Arabs.

I could care either way.

K

quoted for truth

I take offence at being called white because of the long history of whites butchering jews, blacks, asians, arabs, and just about everyone. The only time jews do that is in the old testament and in the last 60 years in israel, and they disgrace themselves by doing so

[cougarjake13]

i hate when you ask someone what they are and they say jewish

which prompts me to say i didnt ask what religion you followed



as far as i know jewish isn't a nationality

[SatCam]

i hate when you ask someone what they are and they say jewish

which prompts me to say i didnt ask what religion you followed



as far as i know jewish isn't a nationality

You're right, it's not a nationality. It's an ethnicity (and a religion).

[CofyCrakCocaine]

You're right, it's not a nationality. It's an ethnicity (and a religion).

Well. It wasn't until 1948.

[Dude!]

earth to you guys

someone named goldberg is a jew
whether he is a member of the faith or not

a jew who practices christianity
is still a jew

that's why they call them jews for jesus

you cannot escape jewdom

[CofyCrakCocaine]

earth to you guys

someone named goldberg is a jew
whether he is a member of the faith or not

a jew who practices christianity
is still a jew

that's why they call them jews for jesus

you cannot escape jewdom

sez u.

[Gvac]

Not the ones with horns!

And a pox on all of you who questioned the whiteness of Italians and Sicilians.

Malocchio.

[BlackSpider]

What about the Moops...?

[weekapaugjz]

What about the Moops...?

:clap:

[weekapaugjz]

Not the ones with horns!

And a pox on all of you who questioned the whiteness of Italians and Sicilians.

Malocchio.

you just wish you were a wasp.

[Gvac]

you just wish you were a wasp.

God forbid. Pasty white, bland food eating bastards.

[SatCam]

Well. It wasn't until 1948.

The nationality Israeli has existed since 1948. The Jewish ethnicity has existed for thousands of years

[Dude!]

God forbid. Pasty white, bland food eating bastards.

yeah, they seem to like cornbread

[DarkHippie]

The nationality Israeli has existed since 1948. The Jewish ethnicity has existed for thousands of years

qft.

originally we were a nice brown color, like an egyptian. Since the diaspora though, jews have been the constant victim of mass murders and rapes, especially around Easter, when christians get worked into a holy rage by seeing passion plays. In eastern europe, these attacks are called "pogroms" and belive it or not, they still happen in the more rural areas

[sailor]

so, jews used to be non-white, but now are white? cool, got it.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

That's a damn fine question.

My answer, No, because being "black" but not from America I can understand that just because two people look alike doesn't mean that they are culturally the same.

I think you'll find in the answer of the general population to be yes because racially speaking, the word white has come to mean not black or visibly latino.

[extracheese]

The answer is - it depends on who you ask. For some reason, Christians seem to to consider Jews as a race. Jews typically do not.

In the 1980s, the Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race for anti-discrimination law purposes, but they're, in fact, a religion.

Jews are clearly not a race.

Race is a genetic distinction, and refers to people with shared ancestry and shared genetic traits. You can't change your race; it's in your DNA. I could never become black or Asian no matter how much I might want to.

Common ancestry is not required to be a Jew. Many Jews worldwide share common ancestry, as shown by genetic research; however, you can be a Jew without sharing this common ancestry, for example, by converting. Thus, although I could never become black or Asian, blacks and Asians have become Jews (Sammy Davis Jr. and Connie Chung).
http://www.jewfaq.org/judaism.htm

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Being Jewish is not a race

Being Jewish is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry or biological distinction. People of many different races have become Jewish people over the years.

Being Jewish is not a nationality

Being Jewish is not a nationality because Jews have been dispersed throughout the world for almost two thousand years. People of many different nationalities are Jewish.

Being Jewish is like being a citizen of a religious movement

Being Jewish means you are a part of a religious movement. However, the great majority of Jews become a part of the religious movement through birth and not due to their beliefs or actions. In this way, being Jewish is like being a citizen of a religious movement.

A Jewish identity is automatically bestowed on the babies of Jewish mothers (according to Orthodox and Conservative Judaism) and of Jewish mothers or fathers (according to Reform Judaism). This Jewish identity stays with them throughout life even if they don't actively practice Judaism.

If a person is not born Jewish, he/she can undergo the process of conversion to become a Jew. A person who was not born Jewish or has not gone through the conversion process is not considered a Jew even if he or she believes in Judaism and observes Jewish practices. The conversion process is very meaningful because it is the only way for a non-Jew to become Jewish.
http://judaism.about.com/od/abcsofjudaism/a/beingjewish.htm
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While the Jewish people began with the descendents of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, many people have converted to become Jews over the millennia--beginning with the "mixed multitude" that came with us out of Egypt. Today there are African Jews, Japanese Jews, even Eskimo Jews. It seems difficult to call such a mixture a "race".

(Incidently, there is really no such thing as a "race." The term "race" implies to most people that there are different categories of human beings based on their genetic makeup. The fact is that there is no basis in genetics for these distinctions. For example, an African from one family may have more in common genetically with a Swede than with another African.)

What could be said is that we are a "family". A family can adopt others as their own. But there are conditions to adoption. You need to keep the family rules. In our case, those rules have to do with the mission we were given at Mount Sinai over 3300 years ago.

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/498027/jewish/Are-Jews-a-Race.htm

[epo]

Not the ones with horns!

And a pox on all of you who questioned the whiteness of Italians and Sicilians.

Malocchio.

Cry all you want, we're still not letting you in the club.

[IamFogHat]

Well, no, but I don't understand anti-semitism, but on another note, any Italian who calls himself white is a fucking liar.

[Scanty]

a jew who practices christianity
is still a jew

Is someone born from Christian parents who practices Judaism still a Christian?

[Scanty]

The nationality Israeli has existed since 1948. The Jewish ethnicity has existed for thousands of years

I think it used to be called Middle Eastern, or something to that respect.

[Scanty]

so, jews used to be non-white, but now are white? cool, got it.

That's what I had pointed out.

[Scanty]

While the Jewish people began with the descendents of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, many people have converted to become Jews over the millennia--beginning with the "mixed multitude" that came with us out of Egypt. Today there are African Jews, Japanese Jews, even Eskimo Jews. It seems difficult to call such a mixture a "race".

I think Extracheese settles it.

[DarkHippie]

That's what I had pointed out.

its very hard to explain to white people. Its the hatred of white people towards jews that have kept us united as a race as much as our common genes. And yes, other people can convert to Judaism, but they will never be considered Jews by real Jews. You can convert and be Jewish, but you cannot change your race and become a Jew.

I know this will not make any sense to most of you, because being a jew is a completely unique experience because of the duplicity of race and religion. I suppose the only thing I can compare it to is being a Gypsy, but thats not the same either.

[SatCam]

You know how all Jews have hooked noses, big mouths, curly hair and big tits? it's cause they all come from the same area of the world.

If you're part of the Jewish religion but not from that part of the world, you wouldnt say you were Jewish if someone asked you "what you were". You would say Russian, Italian, Irish, etc.

If you're not part of the Jewish religion but your ancestors are from that part of the world, you could still say you were a Jew, unless you had some sort of objection to that, then I guess you would say Eastern European or Middle Eastern.

see?

All Im trying to prove is that the fact that "Jew" exists as both a religion and an ethnicity is just that, a fact and not a matter of opinion.

[sailor]

And yes, other people can convert to Judaism, but they will never be considered Jews by real Jews. You can convert and be Jewish, but you cannot change your race and become a Jew.

chabad-lubavitch (from the extra cheese link above) disagree with you on this one, and i'm more inclined to take their word over yours on matters such as these. you also sound a bit bigoted there, in my opinion.

[torker]

Jewish and not white:
http://www.kosher.com/images/products/thumb/053/071535072053/071535072053-levys-jewish-rye-bread-with-caraway-seeds-1.jpg

[extracheese]

Dark hippie sound a little nuts. He does NOT speak for all Jews or for that matter, any I know.

Converted Jews or "Bal Tshuvas" are every bit as Jewish as anyone else. In fact they deserve more credit for studying, and choosing a religion that requires so much work.
It is true that converted Jews have an issue dating and marrying Jews because the converted Jew's entire family is not Jewish and that might make for "interesting" family gatherings, but after one generation it is moot.

[Scanty]

Don't you forget that Christianity started in the Middle East too.

[TripleSkeet]

As an Italian (not Sicilian) I can honestly say not one black or latino friend I have considers me to be white. They consider Italian to be its own race.

That being said, I dont know anyone personally that doesnt think of Jews as being white. I mean look at a stereotypical jew like Woody Allen. That is how millions of people picture white people.

[Furtherman]

There is no white, black or Jew. The only "race" is the human race.

SO SAY WE ALL!!!

[brettmojo]

No, I think of Jewish as RICH!

EL-OH-EL!