Fez was right about Mel Gibson & the Church

[Devo37]

Fezzie was 100% right about what he said about Mel Gibson! we've heard plenty of stories about what a devout catholic Mel Gibson is: he built his own chapel on his land. he doesn't believe in birth control, so he's got a hundred kids. he wants the church to go back to pre-Vatican II ideals. he doesn't like jews, sugartits.

but now he's getting a divorce? f#ck him. he's a giant hypocrite!! divorce is one of the major no-no's in the church.

i couldn't give a sh!t about mel gibson or the catholic church, but if he's gonna talk the talk so loud, he should face the facts when he doesn't walk the walk!

and on religion, Fez mentioned how religions seem to operate in order to make you feel bad about yourself. 100% on the money, Fezster! religious leaders are constantly trying to keep a power-position over their flocks through the use of guilt: "you're a bad person, and only I can help you."


Fez was right on both counts. so what does he get for giving his opinions: laughed at and lectured-down to for the next hour!!! bullsh!t!!! that was wrong! :wallbash::furious:

[west milly Tom]

Mabye his wife wanted the divorce, just sayin'.

[WampusCrandle]

Mabye his wife wanted the divorce, just sayin'.

she did, and that is why i have to disagree with Fez and devo.

[Brad in Bama]

Uh... Fez is out of his God forsaken mind. I just finished listening to the show from yesterday and I don't know how Ron does it. He only brings shit to the show so that they'll do a hypothetical situation on. But,... he only does it to tip toe around his own weirdness. So instead of saying he's done with church for whatever reason, he tries to tie the Mel Gibson thing into it.

What about today when he tried to justify how a gun was more dangerous than him driving in a car crying and locking up? He's begun his descent into madness.

[Devo37]

Mabye his wife wanted the divorce, just sayin'.

his wife is also a hard-core catholic. they're both hypocrites.

oh, and mel's (purported) new girlfriend may have had something to do with it, and that isn't part of a catholic marriage.

[drjoek]

Fezzie was 100% right about what he said about Mel Gibson! we've heard plenty of stories about what a devout catholic Mel Gibson is: he built his own chapel on his land. he doesn't believe in birth control, so he's got a hundred kids. he wants the church to go back to pre-Vatican II ideals. he doesn't like jews, sugartits.

but now he's getting a divorce? f#ck him. he's a giant hypocrite!! divorce is one of the major no-no's in the church.

i couldn't give a sh!t about mel gibson or the catholic church, but if he's gonna talk the talk so loud, he should face the facts when he doesn't walk the walk!

and on religion, Fez mentioned how religions seem to operate in order to make you feel bad about yourself. 100% on the money, Fezster! religious leaders are constantly trying to keep a power-position over their flocks through the use of guilt: "you're a bad person, and only I can help you."


Fez was right on both counts. so what does he get for giving his opinions: laughed at and lectured-down to for the next hour!!! bullsh!t!!! that was wrong! :wallbash::furious:




Fez is right more often then he is ever given credit for. Unfortunately he does lack the power to fight back against Ron and now Dave who belittle alot of the things he says. No wonder he lacks self confidence.

[drjoek]

Uh... Fez is out of his God forsaken mind. I just finished listening to the show from yesterday and I don't know how Ron does it. He only brings shit to the show so that they'll do a hypothetical situation on. But,... he only does it to tip toe around his own weirdness. So instead of saying he's done with church for whatever reason, he tries to tie the Mel Gibson thing into it.

What about today when he tried to justify how a gun was more dangerous than him driving in a car crying and locking up? He's begun his descent into madness.

Youre an idiot

[disneyspy]

Youre an idiot

c'mon dr joe,you cant say it that way,you're supposed to say "in my opinion,you're an idiot"

[drjoek]

c'mon dr joe,you cant say it that way,you're supposed to say "in my opinion,you're an idiot"

You are right but i think based on what I read in his post that its more than an opinion i think its fact

[WampusCrandle]

his wife is also a hard-core catholic. they're both hypocrites.

oh, and mel's (purported) new girlfriend may have had something to do with it, and that isn't part of a catholic marriage.



so, are saying that if one side of a marriage wants a divorce, both people are hypocrites?

Fez is right more often then he is ever given credit for. Unfortunately he does lack the power to fight back against Ron and now Dave who belittle alot of the things he says. No wonder he lacks self confidence.

in this instance, he is wrong. and to say that Christianity is somehow harder or that we are set up for failure is not true. that is not what Christianity about.

[Gvac]

I believe Ron's point wasn't that Mel Gibson is perfect, but that we're all imperfect. As much as anyone preaches about leading a "Christ-like" life, it's impossible to do. Merely aiming for it, and asking forgiveness when one falls short, is the real goal of Christianity.

In a nutshell, finding comfort in forgiveness should outweigh the pain of sinning. I think that in Ron's estimation, Fez seems to dwell on the pain part far too much.

[drjoek]

so, are saying that if one side of a marriage wants a divorce, both people are hypocrites?



in this instance, he is wrong. and to say that Christianity is somehow harder or that we are set up for failure is not true. that is not what Christianity about.

Im not commenting on this issue in particular Im saying Fez has a lot of good points that get mocked into submission. Sometimes Ron is challenging him to stand up for him self other times it seems they just want to use Fez as the whipping boy.
See i liked the show more when say Dave or Earl were in the barrel. Now it seems Ron and Dave just gang up on Fez and Ron never calls Dave out for his stupid statements anymore

[Devo37]

so, are saying that if one side of a marriage wants a divorce, both people are hypocrites?

two catholics as supposedly devout as these two simply don't get divorced! i don't make the rules, but those are the rules.

[WampusCrandle]

Im not commenting on this issue in particular Im saying Fez has a lot of good points that get mocked into submission. Sometimes Ron is challenging him to stand up for him self other times it seems they just want to use Fez as the whipping boy.
See i liked the show more when say Dave or Earl were in the barrel. Now it seems Ron and Dave just gang up on Fez and Ron never calls Dave out for his stupid statements anymore

i agree, but this time Fez was wrong. Fez's conception of what Hell and Christianity and what the religion state are two completely different things. he's connecting it all with the secret, and that is obvious, and that is why he is taking this stance on Christianity

[WampusCrandle]

two catholics as supposedly devout as these two simply don't get divorced! i don't make the rules, but those are the rules.



then, would you like mel gibson to not sign the papers? his wife no longer wants to be with him. whether she is religious or not, it's not up to mel about the state of his marriage. someone else ended it for him. he has no control over it.

frankly, it's an awful rule. Christianity doesn't really care about divorce, it doesn't spread their message.

[Gvac]

I always find it strange when people label inanimate objects or ideals as "evil."

A gun is not evil; a knife is not evil; religion is not evil.

It's people's use and misuse of these things that is "evil."

[drjoek]

then, would you like mel gibson to not sign the papers? his wife no longer wants to be with him. whether she is religious or not, it's not up to mel about the state of his marriage. someone else ended it for him. he has no control over it.

frankly, it's an awful rule. Christianity doesn't really care about divorce, it doesn't spread their message.

Praise be Wampus Crandle

[WampusCrandle]

I always find it strange when people label inanimate objects or ideals as "evil."

A gun is not evil; a knife is not evil; religion is not evil.

It's people's use and misuse of these things that is "evil."

frankly, there is nothing innately evil.

[drjoke]

Praise be Wampus Crandle

meh
:thumbdown:

[WampusCrandle]

meh
:thumbdown:

you are a boner, praise my name on high

[Devo37]

then, would you like mel gibson to not sign the papers?

perhaps mel shouldn't sign any papers! maybe he should have faith that his god will take care of everything for him.

his wife no longer wants to be with him. whether she is religious or not, it's not up to mel about the state of his marriage. someone else ended it for him. he has no control over it.

actually, when i posted my original post, i thought it was a mutual decision, but apparently that's not the case. regardless, when they got married in the catholic church, they were married in the eyes of god. divorce is simply not an option for them! if it is, then he/she/they are hypocrites!

again, i don't know mel gibson and his wife from a hole in the wall. they can do what they want, but they are acting counter to their faith if they divorce.

[FezsAssistant]

He can't be right. Ron told him he wasn't. Ron's the only person who's allowed to be right.

[Dell]

Were there any red words in the bible concerning divorce? I don't recall Jesus sounding in on whether his followers were forbidden from spinning three times while chanting "I divorce thee" (I think that was the procedure). If not, I see divorce being a violation of church rules and not a violation of a person's Christianity.

[Foster]

Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged!

[Brad in Bama]

Youre an idiot

You're right. We should coddle a grown man and cater to his ever growing mental illness.

[ShowerBench]

again, i don't know mel gibson and his wife from a hole in the wall. they can do what they want, but they are acting counter to their faith if they divorce.



The Catholic Church simply does not recognize the civil divorce as a "divorce" and doesn't really care whether it takes place. If the parties remarry, though, the Church will not recognize it as valid unless an annulment is granted, which normally wouldn't be too difficult for someone as rich as Mel Gibson to obtain/buy, but is unlikely in a long-term marriage that produces seven children.

Still, even if the "Liberal Vatican II" Catholics don't recognize it, Mel's own Melothic church might if Pope Mel issues himself a dispensation.

[WampusCrandle]

perhaps mel shouldn't sign any papers! maybe he should have faith that his god will take care of everything for him.



actually, when i posted my original post, i thought it was a mutual decision, but apparently that's not the case. regardless, when they got married in the catholic church, they were married in the eyes of god. divorce is simply not an option for them! if it is, then he/she/they are hypocrites!

again, i don't know mel gibson and his wife from a hole in the wall. they can do what they want, but they are acting counter to their faith if they divorce.



if he doesn't want to sign the papers, but is kicked out of his own house, which will happen, she can sign the divorce papers without him, under the terms of abandonment. to say that he should stay faithful, and have God take care of it is 1. not what being a religious person is about and 2. is insulting to those that are faithful to God. To say your condescending shit is just being nasty to his religious experience. the church and the meaning behind acts, like marriage, meant something completely different in the time that it was written and contemporary history.

in the end, they aren't acting counter to their religion. if you really want to get specific, it's ok for the other to leave a spouse if they have cheated. and that is probably what has happened.

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1343/4750296/9876262/210113377.jpg

http://cupiespew.blogspot.com/gibson_southpark.jpg

It's official...he's bat-shit crazy.

[shortchaz]

not to break balls, but ron said jesus wasnt perfect, and that isnt true according to the bible. jesus was perfect in the eyes of god.


without sounding like a troll, there is very little that is "christ like" about the catholic church, and i think theyve done way more damage to the idea of Christianity than just about anyone. i agree with fez about the cloud of guilt that they use, and can see it being daunting for a person like him.

oh yeah, and mel gibson is bat shit crazy.

[Serpico1103]

Mel may have sinned. God forgives sins.
The object isn't perfection.
How does Zeus feel about divorce?

[scottinnj]

oh yeah, and mel gibson is bat shit crazy.

QFT. But don't let some lunatic's actions deter you from your own spiritual relationship with God.
If you need the Catholic Church to help you with your spirituality, embrace it like a freind. If it is too overpowering to you and it interferes with your relationship with God, run like hell away from it.
The important thing is your relationship with God, not with what man-made denomination you are affiliated with.

[WampusCrandle]

not to break balls, but ron said jesus wasnt perfect, and that isnt true according to the bible. jesus was perfect in the eyes of god.


without sounding like a troll, there is very little that is "christ like" about the catholic church, and i think theyve done way more damage to the idea of Christianity than just about anyone. i agree with fez about the cloud of guilt that they use, and can see it being daunting for a person like him.

oh yeah, and mel gibson is bat shit crazy.

i'll disagree. the faith has stayed the same throughout. people's greed, wrong doing, and misinterpretation has made the religion look the way it does. it's true message has been consistent. the nasty tactics that some individual churches have used are wrong. i also believe that Fez has lost what message he was given by his church, or he misinterpreted it - obvious by what was heard on yesterdays show.

[dino_electropolis]

Mel may have sinned. God forgives sins.
The object isn't perfection.
How does Zeus feel about divorce?

As the self proclaimed "resident greek", my sources say Zeus has no concept of divorce, as he does not recognize "marriage"- finding it to be the biggest folly of mortal man.


Play on, playa!

[shortchaz]

i'll disagree. the faith has stayed the same throughout. people's greed, wrong doing, and misinterpretation has made the religion look the way it does. it's true message has been consistent. the nasty tactics that some individual churches have used are wrong. i also believe that Fez has lost what message he was given by his church, or he misinterpreted it - obvious by what was heard on yesterdays show.ill say the teachings of jesus have stayed the same, but the catholic church has strayed far, far away.

the catholic church is all form, and very little substance, and almost addicted to ceremony, all things that directly contrast the teachings of jesus.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

Fezzie was 100% right

[...]

Fez was right on both counts. so what does he get for giving his opinions: laughed at and lectured-down to for the next hour!!! bullsh!t!!! that was wrong! :wallbash::furious:



i don't know the specifics of the mel's religious life, but i agree with you. i have heard fez be mocked for factually true statements that anyone could verify with google in a few seconds. so fezfez, if you're reading this, don't despair! was the mocking funny? sure it was "done" in a funny way, though still frustrating for me because i want fez to defend himself better. of course it could all be a big joke on us.

[silera]

GVAC is right.

Either way, one failure does not discard an entire philosophy. Alcoholics fall off the wagon, doesn't mean AA is useless. People cheat on diets, doesn't mean that nutrition and excersize are useless.

We don't know the details of their marriage but I can't imagine that this decision was taken lightly. They've been seperated for three years. Many marriages don't even last 3 yrs.

[WampusCrandle]

ill say the teachings of jesus have stayed the same, but the catholic church has strayed far, far away.

the catholic church is all form, and very little substance, and almost addicted to ceremony, all things that directly contrast the teachings of jesus.

i feel like a fool, but which ceremonies?

[shortchaz]

i feel like a fool, but which ceremonies?everything the catholic church does is wrapped in ceremony, from praying to confession. its a way for them to keep power (the catholic church), they act as if the only way you can do anything involving god is through them, and only if you do these certain things, its a direct contradiction of the teachings of jesus.

[WampusCrandle]

everything the catholic church does is wrapped in ceremony, from praying to confession. its a way for them to keep power (the catholic church), they act as if the only way you can do anything involving god is through them, and only if you do these certain things, its a direct contradiction of the teachings of jesus.

prayer and confession are part of the church. some ceremonies need to be kept in or else the religion stops being what it was originally set out to be. i disagree that they use ceremony to keep power. yeah, they ask that people come to church for 2-3 hours once a week. i honestly dont see that as a way to control people. it's sacrificing time for worship. it's been like that for a few hundred years, i believe. i dont see going to church and going to confession as a contradiction to the teachings of Jesus - how is it so? its giving time to recognize God and all he has done. we should being doing what Jesus teaches outside of the church.

[meanmrbill]

You're right. We should coddle a grown man and cater to his ever growing mental illness.

You should tune in to channel 17. 202 has too much "thinking talk" for you.

[shortchaz]

prayer and confession are part of the church. some ceremonies need to be kept in or else the religion stops being what it was originally set out to be. i disagree that they use ceremony to keep power. yeah, they ask that people come to church for 2-3 hours once a week. i honestly dont see that as a way to control people. it's sacrificing time for worship. it's been like that for a few hundred years, i believe. i dont see going to church and going to confession as a contradiction to the teachings of Jesus - how is it so? its giving time to recognize God and all he has done. we should being doing what Jesus teaches outside of the church.a lot of what the catholic church does is done in a way so that you think you need them to have a relationship with god, which is a contrary to the teachings of jesus.

as an example, confession. jesus came and died for your sins, the bible says all you need to do is ask god for forgiveness and you're given. the catholic church has turned that into; the way you ask god for forgiveness is come talk to one of our guys, and he will talk to god for you.

i dont have a problem with the people who are catholic, if it brings you closer to god, then great. my problem is with the catholic church itself. they use the name of jesus, but then do things that contradict his teachings just to stay relative. in other words, the church isnt necessary for salvation, yet everything they do is aimed at making their followers think it is.

praying to saints, trinity, holy oil, the list goes on and on.

[WampusCrandle]

a lot of what the catholic church does is done in a way so that you think you need them to have a relationship with god, which is a contrary to the teachings of jesus.

as an example, confession. jesus came and died for your sins, the bible says all you need to do is ask god for forgiveness and you're given. the catholic church has turned that into; the way you ask god for forgiveness is come talk to one of our guys, and he will talk to god for you.

i dont have a problem with the people who are catholic, if it brings you closer to god, then great. my problem is with the catholic church itself. they use the name of jesus, but then do things that contradict his teachings just to stay relative. in other words, the church isnt necessary for salvation, yet everything they do is aimed at making their followers think it is.

praying to saints, trinity, holy oil, the list goes on and on.

some of the stuff that you do in religion is necessary to the religion - is it not? i will agree on some of your points. i feel like it's not the entire Church as a whole, but more individual churches that haven't stepped up to an updated style.

[shortchaz]

some of the stuff that you do in religion is necessary to the religion - is it not? i will agree on some of your points. i feel like it's not the entire Church as a whole, but more individual churches that haven't stepped up to an updated style.well thats just it, the religion isnt necessary.

[WampusCrandle]

well thats just it, the religion isnt necessary.

im sorry, i am dense, and lost - please explain. i said that some churches, not the entire religion, should be changed.

[TjM]

Fez is right more often then he is ever given credit for. Unfortunately he does lack the power to fight back against Ron and now Dave who belittle alot of the things he says. No wonder he lacks self confidence.

Hopefully he snaps one day and beats Dave like a rented mule and reminds him he is Fez FUCKING Whatley and he is the CO FUCKING HOST.

Hopefully he'll reveal the secret at the same time and tell Dave

"I came hear to kick ass and suck coc and I'm all outa coc!"

[TjM]

Youre an idiot

Not his fault he's from Alabama

[TjM]

Dave isn't even really the issue Fez needs to fight back

[shortchaz]

im sorry, i am dense, and lost - please explain. i said that some churches, not the entire religion, should be changed.
you can be a perfectly good christian, and live a "christ like" life without ever stepping foot inside a catholic church, and probably would be better off for it. it isnt the dark ages, you dont need them to hold the book for you, or read it for you, or tell you what it means. the catholic church shouldnt be looked at as the keepers of christianity, especially with how there actions contradict the teachings of jesus.

let a person be defined by their actions, or "fruit of their labor" as the bible would put it. the catholic church cant be defined as christian just because they use the name jesus, when their actions themselves go in such contradiction. i dont want to overstate the argument, there are books on the subject, but just to state the point that believing in something requires action, and simply saying something isnt enough. the bible says to love god is to do his will, i dont think the catholic church, according to the standard set forth by jesus, is doing the will of god.

[booster11373]

While Fez wasnt totally off base Ron and Dace were just wrong, The lack of understanding of the religion they profess to follow is staggering

The lack of understanding of how the religion so many christians follow is amazing

[Serpico1103]

While Fez wasnt totally off base Ron and Dace were just wrong, The lack of understanding of the religion they profess to follow is staggering

The lack of understanding of how the religion so many christians follow is amazing

Christianity, and all religions, depend on people not understanding the true tenets of the religion. Otherwise, no one would follow the religion.
Religion is only fun to follow when you can adapt it to your needs, and then point to other people and say how they are not true believers.

[WampusCrandle]

Christianity, and all religions, depend on people not understanding the true tenets of the religion. Otherwise, no one would follow the religion.
Religion is only fun to follow when you can adapt it to your needs, and then point to other people and say how they are not true believers.

i completely disagree with this statement. The religion itself has stayed the same throughout time. it's the interpretations that we look for, and what people are supposed to do. that is why the radicals are so radical - because they take their holy books as only direct guidelines, and they don't correctly interpret the message it gives to today. i highly doubt people join or stay in a religion to feel a superiority to others.

[booster11373]

i completely disagree with this statement. The religion itself has stayed the same throughout time. it's the interpretations that we look for, and what people are supposed to do. that is why the radicals are so radical - because they take their holy books as only direct guidelines, and they don't correctly interpret the message it gives to today. i highly doubt people join or stay in a religion to feel a superiority to others.

You are partially correct with regards to the interpations part but the religion itself has also changed with regard to Dogma

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Religion changes all the time because a religion is some group's generalized interpretation of the divine or whatever spooky stuff those crazies seem to like. Interpretations change constantly over time.

And I disagree with Serpico's statement on religion. Unless he knows every single religious person in the world personally, he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

[Serpico1103]

i completely disagree with this statement. The religion itself has stayed the same throughout time. it's the interpretations that we look for, and what people are supposed to do. that is why the radicals are so radical - because they take their holy books as only direct guidelines, and they don't correctly interpret the message it gives to today. i highly doubt people join or stay in a religion to feel a superiority to others.

I didn't say they join or stay in a religion to feel superior.
I said being religious is only fun, when coincidentally, the religion demands from you exactly what you wish to give.
If the church depended on people who actually made an effort to be good christians, it would be bankrupt in a week. It depends on people who show up sunday, drop money in the basket, and forgot about what Jesus really expects from them, until they show up the next week.
Jesus didnt write the bible. God didn't write the bible. The bible was not compiled until hundreds of years after Jesus' death. The bible is not inclusive of every story about Jesus. So, when you read the bible, it should start with "Based on a true story."

[Serpico1103]

And I disagree with Serpico's statement on religion. Unless he knows every single religious person in the world personally, he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

Sorry for speaking in universalities. I am referring to a large segment of many religions that claim to be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc, but don't make any effort to really follow the true teachings.

[shortchaz]

Sorry for speaking in universalities. I am referring to a large segment of many religions that claim to be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc, but don't make any effort to really follow the true teachings.
i agree for the most part, being christian, or christ like, is as simple as reading the bible, and following his example, and requires no church/religion.

[booster11373]

i agree for the most part, being christian, or christ like, is as simple as reading the bible, and following his example, and requires no church/religion.

That may be christ like but it is not christianity

[WampusCrandle]

I didn't say they join or stay in a religion to feel superior.
I said being religious is only fun, when coincidentally, the religion demands from you exactly what you wish to give.

where does it say that religion is supposed to be fun? people shouldn't join a religion because it's fun - that is what book clubs and poll dancing clubs are for.

[Serpico1103]

where does it say that religion is supposed to be fun? people shouldn't join a religion because it's fun - that is what book clubs and poll dancing clubs are for.

I am not saying religion should be fun. It should be work. But most people, only practice their religion up to the point that it agrees with their individual beliefs.
To use people we know as a reference.
ESD claims to be catholic, but does he come close to what is really required?
Black Earl claimed to be a Baptist, but does he follow the teachings or even know what they are? He was the most ignorant about his own religion than anyone else.
Fez claimed to be a Lutheran, but he seems to understand very little about his religion or any religion.
All three find comfort in being part of a religion, but do anyone of them really make an effort to follow the teachings?
I think they represent a large part of all religions.

[Dell]

I am not saying religion should be fun. It should be work. But most people, only practice their religion up to the point that it agrees with their individual beliefs.
To use people we know as a reference.
ESD claims to be catholic, but does he come close to what is really required?
Black Earl claimed to be a Baptist, but does he follow the teachings or even know what they are? He was the most ignorant about his own religion than anyone else.
Fez claimed to be a Lutheran, but he seems to understand very little about his religion or any religion.
All three find comfort in being part of a religion, but do anyone of them really make an effort to follow the teachings?
I think they represent a large part of all religions.

I think there is something in the bible regarding "judge not lest ye be judged." Jeesh!

[Serpico1103]

I think there is something in the bible regarding "judge not lest ye be judged." Jeesh!

Judge me. I'll help. I am not religious. And I would say not spiritual either.
But I guess than Christianity is against our criminal justice system? Are you saying we should leave it up to God to judge criminals?

[WampusCrandle]

I am not saying religion should be fun. It should be work. But most people, only practice their religion up to the point that it agrees with their individual beliefs.
To use people we know as a reference.
ESD claims to be catholic, but does he come close to what is really required?
Black Earl claimed to be a Baptist, but does he follow the teachings or even know what they are? He was the most ignorant about his own religion than anyone else.
Fez claimed to be a Lutheran, but he seems to understand very little about his religion or any religion.
All three find comfort in being part of a religion, but do anyone of them really make an effort to follow the teachings?
I think they represent a large part of all religions.

it just sounds like someone who wants to go college to make friends .... it's not the reason for going college, and being part of a religion shouldn't be there to just make friends or to feel included.

[Dell]

Judge me. I'll help. I am not religious. And I would say not spiritual either.
But I guess than Christianity is against our criminal justice system? Are you saying we should leave it up to God to judge criminals?

I didn't know you had been appointed Christianity judge of the R&F staff... judge away.

[Serpico1103]

I didn't know you had been appointed Christianity judge of the R&F staff... judge away.

Don't judge my actions.
Sorry, I thought I was free to my opinion.
But, thanks for your approval. Some need the approval of a mythical creature, I need the approval of a message board poster.

[Dell]

Don't judge my actions.
Sorry, I thought I was free to my opinion.
But, thanks for your approval. Some need the approval of a mythical creature, I need the approval of a message board poster.

You are too deep for me... now it is opinion... before it was equating your ability to judge people's true Christianity to that of a judicial system judge's ability to hold court (I believe those judges have to earn their position)... I repeat Jeesh!

[Serpico1103]

You are too deep for me... now it is opinion... before it was equating your ability to judge people's true Christianity to that of a judicial system judge's ability to hold court (I believe those judges have to earn their position)... I repeat Jeesh!

They "earn" that position outside of Christianity. I did not see the the rest of the quote, "Judge not, lest thee be judged, unless you are appointed to a judgeship in the yet to be formed United States of America."

Do you listen to the show? Is it your opinion that ESD, Earl, and Fez are/were truly practicing Christians?
Has ESD's baby been baptized?

I guess it is mere coincidence, again, that most people worship the same god that their parents did. I am sure they researched all religions and came to the conclusion that their parents were correct in choosing their faith.

Keep believing in your myths if you want. People need the comfort of religion, that's why almost all societies have one.

[shortchaz]

That may be christ like but it is not christianitysounds like a cluster fuck of semantics.

[TjM]

I see where serp is coning from. Many Catholics are just like Dave. They know a little about the religion and the don't practice. They don't goto church unless there's a wedding or funeral (Maybe occasionally they'll attend church on a holiday). Yet the still call themselves catholic. If only out of the fear that parents, priest, and nuns instilled in them when they were kids