Has Ron's Approach to ESD Changed?

[Suspect Chin]

Ron's approach to ESD has changed in the last few months, in particular since they returned from vacation.

Ron seems to have much more respect for ESD than he used to. Ron is willing to forgive Dave for his ridiculous comments and even agree with him at times. Used to be that Ron would destroy Dave no matter what he said.

After Earl left, Ron's patience with Fez diminished and his collaboration on bits with Dave increased.

Love Fez but just calling it like I see it.

[Scanty]

It seems that the constant barrage on ESD is the underlying ongoing bit. When I hear him win a Beeny Cup I'll agree with you.

[Sloppy2nds]

Ron's approach to ESD has changed in the last few months, in particular since they returned from vacation.

Ron seems to have much more respect for ESD than he used to. Ron is willing to forgive Dave for his ridiculous comments and even agree with him at times. Used to be that Ron would destroy Dave no matter what he said.

After Earl left, Ron's patience with Fez diminished and his collaboration on bits with Dave increased.

Love Fez but just calling it like I see it.

Awww, you have cataracts :glurps:

[WampusCrandle]

Awww, you have cataracts :glurps:

does that mean he has to be put down? or does he go to a farm in the country?

[Suspect Chin]

It seems that the constant barrage on ESD is the underlying ongoing bit. When I hear him win a Beeny Cup I'll agree with you.

That's my point, that the constant barrage on ESD seems to have subsided somewhat. Now that Earl is gone and Dave is loved by Ron, Fez gets the brunt of the ridicule.

[Suspect Chin]

Awww, you have cataracts :glurps:

Now I see what Gvac meant when he said you were full of non sequiturs.

[JohnnyDaytona]

I think dave is great, and as cookey as he is, it adds to the show. Fez is talking more lately, but how long does that last. Face it Dave is third mic, and rightfully should be.:drunk:

[lleeder]

I think ESD's approach to Ron had changed.

"Since they have been back from vacation", is only a week so the sample size isn't that large.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I think ESD's approach to Ron had changed.

"Since they have been back from vacation", is only a week so the sample size isn't that large.

4 shows, they were off monday

[underdog]

I noticed this the other day, too. When Dave said he and his friends used the slip and slide to slide into home after pop flys or whatever, Ron started speaking and I thought he was going to trash Dave. But Ron said he was so angry that he had never thought of that.

[Chigworthy]

I'm gonna change my approach to these show analysis threads. See ya.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

you're right. as the chorus here often goes, 'the show is evolving'. but for example, when dave said chappaquiddick was the name of a compound and ron gave a non humiliating correction, i perceived a new dynamic.

they are just back from vacation, so everyone's tempers may be cooled. dave has special delivery as an outlet for his strange kookiness, and as a result is acting more leveled on r & f. and, there is a spoken or unspoken understanding that a third voice is needed to carry the show at this time and all three are growing into that configuration. we've heard before that when feeling down, fez has asked for dave to join in on the show. and based on the aftershows, we know dave receives professional mentoring (fez does, too) from ron and he was also getting special delivery critique from sirius.

something i always find funny is when ron will ask a question - as if to no one - and dave will appear out of no where on a strange sounding mic, like he is listening in the booth or answering phones at the time. "yes ron" ha

[mikeyboy]

you're right. as the chorus here often goes, 'the show is evolving'. but for example, when dave said chappaquiddick was the name of a compound and ron gave a non humiliating correction, i perceived a new dynamic.

FWIW, I think he was talking about Hyannis Port, not Chappaquiddick. Calling Chappaquiddick the name of the Kennedy compound is a whole other level of goof.

[Suspect Chin]

I think dave is great, and as cookey as he is, it adds to the show. Fez is talking more lately, but how long does that last. Face it Dave is third mic, and rightfully should be.:drunk:

Exactly. I love that Dave is getting more respect on the air. I like when Dave gets bashed too, but sometimes it is nice when Ron lets him carry on for a little while longer. He is an "Ideas Man" after all.

I think ESD's approach to Ron had changed.

"Since they have been back from vacation", is only a week so the sample size isn't that large.

True but it has become more profound since vacation. Its like Ron has subconsciously given up on Fez to engage him and has transferred that responsibility to Dave, thereby requiring himself to give Dave more mic time.

[Serpico1103]

Exactly. I love that Dave is getting more respect on the air. I like when Dave gets bashed too, but sometimes it is nice when Ron lets him carry on for a little while longer. He is an "Ideas Man" after all.

True but it has become more profound since vacation. Its like Ron has subconsciously given up on Fez to engage him and has transferred that responsibility to Dave, thereby requiring himself to give Dave more mic time.

Every show needs a second mic. ESD is still rough around the edges, but he is resorting to childish antics less and less.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

thanks mikeyboy, you're right.

[mudflap170]

does that mean he has to be put down? or does he go to a farm in the country?

No. I think it just means he doesn't like Lincoln Continentals.

I think you're right. Ron does seem to be treating ESD a little different these days.

[Drunky McBetidont]

what happens if ron turns heal on esd? the kid got married and is popping kids out. i mean, ronnie has destroyed people in the past that have worked for the show. what if dave is his opus?

[KEITHJAY]

Ive noticed Ron isn't near as quick to jump on Dave of late but poor Fez well he can't say anything without being contradicted or shot down :sad:

[STC-Dub]

Perhaps Ron is agree with Dave so he talks less and disagreeing with Fez for the opposite reason? During the aftershow meetings Ron was always asking how to get Fez more involved in the show, this might be a way to do that, or at least an attempt.

[bobstevens4]

The tide will eventually turn and Ron will pull the carpet from underneath ESD.

[SP1!]

Ron's approach to ESD has changed in the last few months, in particular since they returned from vacation.

Ron seems to have much more respect for ESD than he used to. Ron is willing to forgive Dave for his ridiculous comments and even agree with him at times. Used to be that Ron would destroy Dave no matter what he said.

After Earl left, Ron's patience with Fez diminished and his collaboration on bits with Dave increased.

Love Fez but just calling it like I see it.

No, ron is just waiting for fez to shut dave down, it hasnt happened and it may never happen. I keep waiting for it to happen but I have almost given up hope.

[Sharadoc]

Here's a thought from left field - does the new studio have anything to do with it? Chris/Pepper has to be down the hall now and maybe Ron wanted Dave closer, so he's getting a third mic chair? I get the sense that Ron seriously wants Dave to succeed and is making him appear to be more gooder.

Or it's a work - who knows? I love Fez to death but admit that I tire of his same story all the time now. Dave actually is fun and responsive enough to bring out more comedy in Ron, rather than "what is it buddy, what can I do to help?" breaks.

Anything that will bring more of Ron's genius to my radio everyday is wonderful. :clap:

[Brad in Bama]

It can't all be prop 8 and "secret" talk.

[STC-Dub]

I think Dave was at the "3rd mike chair" in the old studio too.

[beachbum]

I think Ron was being pissy with everyone because they waited too long between breaks.He has more patience after the vacation.

Also,when Dave makes a good or valid point Ron has always given him credit.It may have something to do with the fact that he wants to put Dave over as well.

[Suspect Chin]

I think Ron was being pissy with everyone because they waited too long between breaks.He has more patience after the vacation.

Also,when Dave makes a good or valid point Ron has always given him credit.It may have something to do with the fact that he wants to put Dave over as well.


I think Ron has reached his limit on trying to help Fez come out of his funk. Whether conscious or not, he has become very nitpicky with anything Fez says. He either doesnt laugh/acknowledge when Fez does have a good line, or he picks out some reason why what Fez said is ridiculous and burns him for it. Seems like if Ron had any patience left for Fez, he would encourage him when he gets on a good roll.

He has started giving Dave the benefit of the doubt and even agreeing with him at times.

[FUCKTWATtheCLOWN]

Ive noticed Ron isn't near as quick to jump on Dave of late but poor Fez well he can't say anything without being contradicted or shot down :sad:

It isnt that fez is always being contradicted, it's that ron plays devil's advocate to make arguement and interesting conversation. It's not that fezzie is always wrong, he just can't win an arguement against the fuckin mind ninja that is ronnie b.

[Suspect Chin]

It isnt that fez is always being contradicted, it's that ron plays devil's advocate to make arguement and interesting conversation. It's not that fezzie is always wrong, he just can't win an arguement against the fuckin mind ninja that is ronnie b.

I agree but if Ron would let Fez get rolling a little before crushing him, it would make the arguments more interesting and longer lasting. I know Ron likes to win just like anyone else, but he crushes their confidence immediately and the argument ends and Fez is silent for a half hour.

[jimmyolsenblues]

After Earl left, Ron's patience with Fez diminished and his collaboration on bits with Dave increased.

i agree at times..ron is truly mad at fez and is fed up with him....he loves esd a lot lately...

[Philip]

Ron has probably always liked Dave he wouldn't be there if ron didn't.

[slames]

I think Ron has been taking it easier on Dave. And as much as I loved Ron bashing Dave for being a stunting shit eater, its cool to see them line up on some points. Especially when Dave starts sounding like a total lunatic and Ron reigns in his insanity to make a valid point. And besides, Dave looking up to Ron like he was a nine year old boy meeting a sports star only to get shit on by his idol is only funny every now and again. And I don't think Ron is fed up with Fez. Fez just seems too scared to stick with a point if someone like Ron brings a valid argument. But who wouldn't feel overwhelmed by someone as quick as Ron debating against your point? Everyone in studio bows to Ron when they're there. The man could sell ice to an Eskimo, fire to the devil, and ski's to a black man.

[Wisconsin_Ryan]

i am glad ron is respecting esd more. I hope it keeps on. Fez i like but i cant stand all the secret talk. Fez we love you anyway just get on with your secret! :smoke:

[dignan]

My personal (facetious) theory is that Ron runs down Sam so that he can move Dave into an even more primary role in the R&F show.

I started thinking of this when the new summer movie bet was made and now Ron and Dave can talk movies all summer while Fez won't even have the option of contributing. Fez needs to say no to some of Ron's BS "bets" once in a while. Or make him put up something stupid like a Sopranos tattoo.

[RMPGP]

My personal (facetious) theory is that Ron runs down Sam so that he can move Dave into an even more primary role in the R&F show.

How does running down Sam put Dave into a more primary role on RNF?

I started thinking of this when the new summer movie bet was made and now Ron and Dave can talk movies all summer while Fez won't even have the option of contributing. Fez needs to say no to some of Ron's BS "bets" once in a while. Or make him put up something stupid like a Sopranos tattoo.

This is true, it just will isolate Fez further but unfortunately he doen't see a lot of movies anyway. I'm not even sure what the bet is since Ron said he wasn't going to go see Wolverine. If he doesn't see Wolverine doesn't that mean Fez wins the bet? Or do the popcorn flicks have nothing to do with it?

[A buck 380]

I'd say the last 5 minutes goes strongly against this thread.

[dignan]

How does running down Sam put Dave into a more primary role on RNF?



This is true, it just will isolate Fez further but unfortunately he doen't see a lot of movies anyway. I'm not even sure what the bet is since Ron said he wasn't going to go see Wolverine. If he doesn't see Wolverine doesn't that mean Fez wins the bet? Or do the popcorn flicks have nothing to do with it?


Running down Sam shuts down their show and allows Ron to "steal" Dave back, hence why I was just kidding. The specifics on the movie bet weren't made as far as I recall. Ron said he was going to see Star Trek(and maybe T-4) and Fez can't see movies this summer, but the chances Fez could win a bet with Ron will always equal zero. That's why Ron creates the terms of the bet and then pretends to be mad when other people don't pay off the ridiculous bet. BTW, I'm thinking this wasn't even a real bet because there's no way in hell either of them would take 5k from each other. Last year with Dave was charity.