Dave is right.....

[Swannee]

Ali is a dick. Just got done watching "Thrilla in Manilla" and agree totally with Dave. Ali was just mean spirited and cruel with no benefit to the fights. You could easily make the arguement that Frasier was a better fighter than Ali, but he gets no credit.

[TheMojoPin]

Of course Ali was a asshole.

Who thinks otherwise?

That's part of his GOATness.

The very best are usually giant jerkstores. Jordan, Tiger, Ruth, Ali...JERKS.

[Drunky McBetidont]

Ali is a dick. Just got done watching "Thrilla in Manilla" and agree totally with Dave. Ali was just mean spirited and cruel with no benefit to the fights. You could easily make the arguement that Frasier was a better fighter than Ali, but he gets no credit.

he has that lean mean grilling machine and all the kids named george. oh shit, thats the other guy.

[El Mudo]

That was Ali's gimmick, and its why you remember him, and not Frazier

[MacVittie]

Of course Ali was a asshole.

Who thinks otherwise?

That's part of his GOATness.

The very best are usually giant jerkstores. Jordan, Tiger, Ruth, Ali...JERKS.

What a dick.

http://espn.go.com/i/editorial/2006/0510/photo/babe_ruth_signing_195.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

What a dick.

http://espn.go.com/i/editorial/2006/0510/photo/babe_ruth_signing_195.jpg

Yeah, signing autographs makes everything OK.

[Knowledged_one]

Yeah, signing autographs makes everything OK.

ripken was the same way

[MacVittie]

Yeah, signing autographs makes everything OK.

I honestly haven't heard many stories about Ruth being a dick. The media was in love with him and he had a very friendly image. Is there a sordid past I haven't heard about?

[cougarjake13]

I honestly haven't heard many stories about Ruth being a dick. The media was in love with him and he had a very friendly image. Is there a sordid past I haven't heard about?

boozer and womanizer

[TheMojoPin]

I honestly haven't heard many stories about Ruth being a dick. The media was in love with him and he had a very friendly image. Is there a sordid past I haven't heard about?

Wait, you've really never heard of the Babe's "sordid" activites? I'm not saying that to be snotty, I'm honestly surprised if that's the case.

And shit, Ty Cobb signed autographs for kids.

As horrilbe as ESPN is, he little piece they did on Jordan after he got into the HOF was pretty apt: the guys who tend to be the GOAT's in sports also intend to be insanely competitive and ultimately huge jerks. Seems to be part and parcel.

[TheMojoPin]

boozer and womanizer

Supposedly could be a real bully/Alpha Male-type in the clubhouse, too. Same for guys like Mantle and DiMaggio, too.

That's not saying great players can't be likable. It just seems that when it comes to their "jobs," all bets are off. Hence Ali talking all the shit in the buildup hype. It was all part of the match.

[Knowledged_one]

The washington post magazine did an article about jordan after he left the wizards and he is a real piece of shit

[cougarjake13]

The washington post magazine did an article about jordan after he left the wizards and he is a real piece of shit

for his playing time or gm duties

[Drunky McBetidont]

The washington post magazine did an article about jordan after he left the wizards and he is a real piece of shit

didn't his daddy get shot because of gambling debts that mj accrued?

[Knowledged_one]

for his playing time or gm duties

a little from coulmn a, a little from column b

[kdubya]

most athletes are jerks. It comes with being competitive and for the most part putting the game above all else.

Why would anyone be surprised to find out a pro athlete is a jerk, these are just the jocks from high school all grown up.

[MacVittie]

Wait, you've really never heard of the Babe's "sordid" activites? I'm not saying that to be snotty, I'm honestly surprised if that's the case.

And shit, Ty Cobb signed autographs for kids.

As horrilbe as ESPN is, he little piece they did on Jordan after he got into the HOF was pretty apt: the guys who tend to be the GOAT's in sports also intend to be insanely competitive and ultimately huge jerks. Seems to be part and parcel.

It doesn't shock me that Babe had that side to him, I jest never really cared to delve into his past. I like to think of Babe Ruth as the guy that John Goodman played.

Any while we're on the subject, since when is being a womanizer a bad thing?

[epo]

I heard the Frazier version of the story about how he gave Ali money while he couldn't fight because of the war and then Ali started calling him an "Uncle Tom" as a lead up to their fight. Seriously...without any warning...that is the epitome of a shitbag move.

[TheMojoPin]

I heard the Frazier version of the story about how he gave Ali money while he couldn't fight because of the war and then Ali started calling him an "Uncle Tom" as a lead up to their fight. Seriously...without any warning...that is the epitome of a shitbag move.

GOAT.

That just makes him even greater.

[epo]

GOAT.

That just makes him even greater.

In retrospect, Frazier should given him Parkinsons in the Jungle.

[TheMojoPin]

That doesn't even make any sense.

The fevered ramblings of the mentally unstable.

[epo]

Fine, Parkinsons in Manilla.

[led37zep]

So one guy is rich as fuck but can't communicate and the other can barely speak and lives above his gym in the 'hood.


so nobody wins.

[A.J.]

Yeah, signing autographs makes everything OK.

Well at least he didn't charge for them.

[TheMojoPin]

Well at least he didn't charge for them.

Oh, they paid.

They paid...