Miss California

[Dude!]

i guess she lost because of some
gay comment
and perez hilton is all on her case

but i must say
she is quite delicious

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/photos/image_20090421/7637666.jpg

believe it or not
she lost to the thing on the left

[MacVittie]

I don't know what you mean by thing on the left, both of them are quite fetching.

As for her comment, Perez Hilton asked her what she though of gay marriage, and she sided with the majority of California voters. Doesn't really shock me.

[~Katja~]

i guess she lost because of some
gay comment
and perez hilton is all on her case

but i must say
she is quite delicious

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/photos/image_20090421/7637666.jpg

believe it or not
she lost to the thing on the left

seriously dude.. show me a single picture of your past girlfriends... and your current one too

[ToiletCrusher]

I like them both equally.

[led37zep]

seriously dude.. show me a single picture of your past girlfriends... and your current one too

Are you going to chick batch to Dude and his chick?

[Dude!]

seriously dude.. show me a single picture of your past girlfriends... and your current one too

post 10 nude pics of yourself here

and i will then comply with your request

[~Katja~]

post 10 nude pics of yourself here

and i will then comply with your request

just seems that your standards are quite high yet you never talk about being with an actual chick...





and my nudes will stay safe on an external hard drive...

[ToiletCrusher]

and my nudes will stay safe on an external hard drive...

but the idea of their existence is more than enough for my spank bank.

[RhinoinMN]

post 10 nude pics of yourself here

and i will then comply with your request

post 10 nude pics or yourself as well. The relevance to the subject will be the some.

[Dude!]

just seems that your standards are quite high yet you never talk about being with an actual chick...

no and i don't talk about where i work
or where i went to school
or put my pic in an avatar
or anything personal

i am internet discreet

[~Katja~]

but the idea of their existence is more than enough for my spank bank.

well, one has to test new lenses and lights somehow... you know

[Doogie]

just seems that your standards are quite high yet you never talk about being with an actual chick...





and my nudes will stay safe on an external hard drive...

Hmmmmm...so they are on a hard drive ehh??

:::Note to self, steal Katja's external hard drive. Also pick up tomatoes for my meal tomorrow:::

[led37zep]

post 10 nude pics or yourself as well. The relevance to the subject will be the some.

first the cum thread now this. You feeling ok brotha? Do any "rediscovering" on your recent trip to NY?

[TheMojoPin]

just seems that your standards are quite high yet you never talk about being with an actual chick.....

People can have whatever standards they want.

They both look like fake-tanned blechs that need a sammich or eight.

[~Katja~]

no and i don't talk about where i work
or where i went to school
or put my pic in an avatar
or anything personal

i am internet discreet

nobody is asking names... it's not discreet of you but talking badly of others at the comfort of never having to be judged yourself.

[Dude!]

People can have whatever standards they want.

They both look like fake-tanned blechs that need a sammich or eight.

hey, she's a california girl
so i'm sure that tan is 'natural'

yes, she could use a bite to eat though

[drjoek]

I'd hit either one
Or even better both.

[~Katja~]

I'd hit either one
Or even better both.

over the head with a bat so you can take them out?

[Dude!]

nobody is asking names... it's not discreet of you but talking badly of others at the comfort of never having to be judged yourself.

wow...that is one of the joys of internet forums

[DolaMight]

more like mister california. fuck that post op. I'd do him.

[drjoek]

over the head with a bat so you can take them out?

Yeah kinda like that

[ToiletCrusher]

There was a thread about cum and I missed it?

And again, no, I am not referring to any drjoek listening threads.

[DolaMight]

Capture the moment, get your miss california 1st place loser dolls today.

http://static.fleshlight.com/images/products/large_193.jpg

[~Katja~]

wow...that is one of the joys of internet forums

oh enjoy, no doubt.
But for as long as you stay anonymous like that and continue to make comments of that sort about women I will think that you are some obese sweaty old man with little hair and no game... that's my joy of the internet forum.

[Dude!]

oh enjoy, no doubt.
But for as long as you stay anonymous like that and continue to make comments of that sort about women I will think that you some obese sweaty old man with little hair and no game... that's my joy of the internet forum.

good...then we're all happy!

[SatCam]

I call bullshit on all of you who say "so what? I'd be all over that!" or similar nonsense.

That's like saying you'd eat a steak that's spoiled and is covered in maggots because you didn't want to waste a steak.

The fact that this woman has zero interest in gay rights makes her even less attractive than the actual physical appearance of her genitals, in my view.

I would have let out a loud "GROSS" when I got down there, admonished her to clean up her act, and stormed out of there.

[ToiletCrusher]

I like when things work out nicely.

Let's all go out for ice cream.

[~Katja~]

I call bullshit on all of you who say "so what? I'd be all over that!" or similar nonsense.

That's like saying you'd eat a steak that's spoiled and is covered in maggots because you didn't want to waste a steak.

The fact that this woman has zero interest in gay rights makes her even less attractive than the actual physical appearance of her genitals, in my view.

I would have let out a loud "GROSS" when I got down there, admonished her to clean up her act, and stormed out of there.

you could have at least try a bit harder to make it your own... :wallbash:

[sailor]

People can have whatever standards they want.

They both look like fake-tanned blechs that need a sammich or eight.

NC has a tan?

[SatCam]

you could have at least try a bit harder to make it your own... :wallbash:

i ve tried hard enough. im going to bed

[ToiletCrusher]

you could have at least try a bit harder to make it your own... :wallbash:

Keep talking like that. I am adding it to the idea of your external hard drive of naughtiness.

[Dude!]

you could have at least try a bit harder to make it your own... :wallbash:

that was mean

[SatCam]

that was mean

YOU know what that really gets me thinking. Katja, show me a picture of your past funny posts. and your current ones too.

[~Katja~]

YOU know what that really gets me thinking. Katja, show me a picture of your past funny posts. and your current ones too.

I don't copy/ paste for funny

[SatCam]

I don't copy/ paste for funny

:flush:

[Kublakhan61]

The internet is too funny sometimes.
When you're all done cat fighting one another lets talk on topic.


I think she should have lost for publicly stating she doesn't support gay marriage (if she indeed said that). She obviously needs to learn to 'handle' the press before she can win. The pageant would have a hell of time if they sent her out there represent that scene.

[~Katja~]

The internet is too funny sometimes.
When you're all done cat fighting one another lets talk on topic.


I think she should have lost for publicly stating she doesn't support gay marriage (if she indeed said that). She obviously needs to learn to 'handle' the press before she can win. The pageant would have a hell of time if they sent her out there represent that scene.

Her statement was that she was raised to not believe in gay marriage and still stands by that statement after her loss. She has been on several news shows now.
Some politicians don't support it based on their own beliefs, why should a Miss America be any different? She has a right to publicly state her opinion on it, it's not like she has any power to influence the laws.

[Kublakhan61]

Her statement was that she was raised to not believe in gay marriage and still stands by that statement after her loss. She has been on several news shows now.
Some politicians don't support it based on their own beliefs, why should a Miss America be any different? She has a right to publicly state her opinion on it, it's not like she has any power to influence the laws.

But to speak to the media is to craft your public persona - we don't know anything about you until you tell us. In a time like this to stand up and say "I don't believe in gay marriage" is proof that she isn't ready for the spotlight - she didn't see this coming?

[~Katja~]

But to speak to the media is to craft your public persona - we don't know anything about you until you tell us. In a time like this to stand up and say "I don't believe in gay marriage" is proof that she isn't ready for the spotlight - she didn't see this coming?

it was one of the questions she was asked on stage during the competition. It was her immediate answer to it and of course now she has to defend and stand by what she said there.

this was her statement during the pageant
Miss California, Carrie Prejean, said "We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite. And you know what, I think in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that's how I was raised."

[Kublakhan61]

it was one of the questions she was asked on stage during the competition. It was her immediate answer to it and of course now she has to defend and stand by what she said there.

this was her statement during the pageant

Yikes! I thought she was talking to perez hilton (then again this story is only on my radar because a caller brought it up). She said that during the pageant? Well, this is surely what cost her the crown...

[underdog]

it was one of the questions she was asked on stage during the competition. It was her immediate answer to it and of course now she has to defend and stand by what she said there.

this was her statement during the pageant

I support opposite marriage.

[Freitag]

The more I think about this, I have to wonder - there's usually a bio of paegant contestants. I'm wondering if Perez saw something about being a conservative (religious?) or something and purposely set her up.

I wouldn't put it past him.

[ToiletCrusher]

Did anyone know of this Perez character prior to his calling out the Miss California competitor?

[Freitag]

Did anyone know of this Perez character prior to his calling out the Miss California competitor?

Yes, he's a gossip blogger. His most notable achievements include forcing Lance Bass out of the closet, and crappy photoshops.

[ToiletCrusher]

Yes, he's a gossip blogger. His most notable achievements include forcing Lance Bass out of the closet, and crappy photoshops.

Sounds like this most recent stunt will be the pinnacle of his career then.

[boosterp]

Did anyone know of this Perez character prior to his calling out the Miss California competitor?

I completely suck at pop culture and know of this fruit.

[Melk]

I think she should have lost for publicly stating she doesn't support gay marriage (if she indeed said that). She obviously needs to learn to 'handle' the press before she can win. The pageant would have a hell of time if they sent her out there represent that scene.
Well, I have heard of pageant contestants giving sexual favors for votes, I'll give her some credit for expressing her beliefs.

On the other hand, I don't agree with her beliefs and pageants are boring as sin.

Perez Hilton is subhuman. If this girl was able to get under his catty skin, she deserves to win Miss Universe.

[JimBeam]

Perez Hilton is a poor man's WWTDD.

As fars as the question goes I'm not sure why it was even asked.

And since it was asked why was her answer wrong ?

I guess it's the old you can have your opinion as long as it agrees w/ mine.

Then again this was a pageant and who really cares ?

I would like Perez Hilton to die not just because he sucks but because he's been on Stern which makes him suck that much more.

[underdog]

What beauty pageant contestant doesn't like gay people? If it weren't for gay guys, there'd be no fucking show. They made you, you dumb blank. Without gay people, she'd be even less than the nothing she already is.

[Kublakhan61]

And since it was asked why was her answer wrong ?

It's only wrong because she is competing for the title of Ms. America and she should have been thinking about how to best represent herself as the pageant winner, not as a cro-mag.


I guess it's the old you can have your opinion as long as it agrees w/ mine.

I think this is short-sighted - she is entitled to her opinion but she is also making a bad PR move and demonstrating little to no sense of diplomacy. She could have chosen her words a bit more carefully - it's the reason they ask these questions, after all, to see how they respond to such pressure.



Then again this was a pageant and who really cares ?

It's doubtful that any of us really care here, but the topic is on the table so.....

[SP1!]

But to speak to the media is to craft your public persona - we don't know anything about you until you tell us. In a time like this to stand up and say "I don't believe in gay marriage" is proof that she isn't ready for the spotlight - she didn't see this coming?

Well even though she is their public image I have more respect for people who speak their mind than someone who bows to PC bullshit, its an opinion about one topic it doesnt mean you cant have respect for gay people or even think a civil union is fine. Which is really all marriage is but people just want that label attached to it so they can feel equal, quit making it a big deal.

BTW kk, where did your music blog go?

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah, thinking people should have equal rights is soooooooo PC.

[Doogie]

Yeah, thinking people should have equal rights is soooooooo PC.

Yeah, and expressing honest opinions is sooooo not PC

[TooLowBrow]

"I'm a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman."

-obama

[Dude!]

"I'm a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman."


face!

soooooo face

[TheMojoPin]

Then he's a hypocrite.

[Kublakhan61]

BTW kk, where did your music blog go?

I just too busy with work/school/ and making my own music to keep on it. Grad school turned out to be more work then I was anticipating.

Thanks for your patronage back then, anyway! It was a thankless job for the most part, so when it came to trying to make more time for myself that was the first to go.
The page should still be up with some of the links still working - if you're after anything that's since been cut down let me know.

[ToiletCrusher]

Marriage is what a church (in my opinion) defines it to be. Should one church not accept gays marrying, then go for civil union or go to a church that does accept it.

[TheMojoPin]

Marriage is what a church (in my opinion) defines it to be. Should one church not accept gays marrying, then go for civil union or go to a church that does accept it.

This isn't about the churches.

[ToiletCrusher]

This isn't about the churches.

The concept of marriage originated with religion. So, part of the argument finds its roots there.

[TheMojoPin]

The concept of marriage originated with religion. So, part of the argument finds its roots there.

The crux of the issue is the legal ability to be joined as a couple. The churches aren't necessary for that. The majority of people pushing for this aren't demanding to be married in churches. That's a diversionary topic that those opposed to gay marriage keep bringing up as if the gays are trying to invade churches with their buttfuckery.

[ToiletCrusher]

The crux of the issue is the legal ability to be joined as a couple. The churches aren't necessary for that. The majority of people pushing for this aren't demanding to be married in churches. That's a diversionary topic that those opposed to gay marriage keep bringing up as if the gays are trying to invade churches with their buttfuckery.

Then why don't we do away with the term "marriage" and go with "civil union"?? I'd be fine with that.

[TheMojoPin]

It's just a word that people use. You say, "we're getting married," not "we're getting civil unioned." It's not like the term "gay marriage" means the churches have to do anything they don't want to.

[Crispy123]

Then why don't we do away with the term "marriage" and go with "civil union"?? I'd be fine with that.

Id be happier with buttfuckery!

[ToiletCrusher]

It's just a word that people use. You say, "we're getting married," not "we're getting civil unioned." It's not like the term "gay marriage" means the churches have to do anything they don't want to.

Can we just say "hitched" ?

[TheMojoPin]

I don't see why everyone can't just call it whatever they want.

[Crispy123]

We are gathered here today to join these two fags in holy buttfuckery, amen.

[ToiletCrusher]

I don't see why everyone can't just call it whatever they want.

Because the semantics will kill people. Calling it whatever you want leaves too much for other's interpretation which leads to people not being comfortable with any terminology for the ceremony.

[underdog]

It's not like the term "gay marriage" means the churches have to do anything they don't want to.

Obviously you haven't seen nomnomnom's commercial. Granting gay marriages will take away their rights. And scare them. Terrorists.

[Crispy123]

And by these two, I mean Mojo & toiletcrusher.

[TheMojoPin]

Because the semantics will kill people. Calling it whatever you want leaves too much for other's interpretation which leads to people not being comfortable with any terminology for the ceremony.

But people who are getting married again after a divorce still get to call it marrige even if their church doesn't recognize it. Why can't two gay people just say, "we're getting married?"

And let's not pretend that most of the opposition to this is people hung up on the semantics of what to call it.

[underdog]

But people who are getting married again after a divorce still get to call it marrige even if their church doesn't recognize it. Why can't two gay people just say, "we're getting married?"

Because a bunch of retards have decided to ignore huge sections of a really old book, except for really random sections, so they're against gay marriage.

[ToiletCrusher]

But people who are getting married again after a divorce still get to call it marrige even if their church doesn't recognize it. Why can't two gay people just say, "we're getting married?"

I am not arguing that. I think it's fine and dandy. I am simply saying that there is more motivation to someone taking a stance against it than just the "legal" issues. Many people see the word "marriage" specifically linked with their religious views.

[TheMojoPin]

I am not arguing that. I think it's fine and dandy. I am simply saying that there is more motivation to someone taking a stance against it than just the "legal" issues. Many people see the word "marriage" specifically linked with their religious views.

Again, most of the people opposed to this aren't simply hung up on the use of the word "marriage."

[lleeder]

This thread is garbage. Why are there so many words and so few pictures of Miss California?

[IrishAlkey]

We are gathered here today to join these two fags in holy buttfuckery, amen.

I'd crash that wedding!

[~Katja~]

This thread is garbage. Why are there so many words and so few pictures of Miss California?

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/47667/carrie2.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc146/CA-Board-203865-pics/California%20pageant%20winners/CA-USA-2009.jpg?t=1240435884

http://misscaliforniausa.com/misses/Carrie%20Prejean.jpg
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/11539/c.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5eEJcRsmTDI/SStLe7O78VI/AAAAAAAAFzM/kcwtr7C0UQI/s320/ca+usa+2009-01.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x31/misscontest/USA/2009/0_Official/California.jpg

[brettmojo]

It's just a word that people use. You say, "we're getting married," not "we're getting civil unioned." It's not like the term "gay marriage" means the churches have to do anything they don't want to.
Actually... In order to stay tax exempt they'd be required by law to conduct gay marriages and won't be able to refuse or the government will remove their tax exempt status. That's what it basically boils down too.

Don't let the bleeding heart Hollywood buttfuckery fool you people. This has nothing to do with gays wanting equal rights. Gays want the government to step in and make the religion accept homosexuality. If gays were just interested in having the same rights as married couples they would be happy with calling them civil unions. This is and always has been a religious issue.

Perez Hilton is a douche bag. Anyone attacking Miss California for her beliefs, however rooted in religious hayseedery they may be, are hypocrites for crying foul whenever the same is done to gays.

[underdog]

If gays were just interested in having the same rights as married couples they would be happy with calling them civil unions. This is and always has been a religious issue.

NO THEY WOULDN'T BECAUSE IT WOULD MEAN THEY'RE FUCKING DIFFERENT THAN EVERY OTHER FUCKING PERSON WHO CAN GET MARRIED

Jesus fucking christ.

I'm so sick of fucking people acting like civil unions and marriages are the SAME FUCKING THING.

You know what else were the "SAME THING"? Fucking water fountains. Both blacks and whites can drink water, just not from the same fucking fountain. That seems fair.

And I'm sick of the "hypocrite" shit when calling out religious people. It's not a fucking opinion to be against fucking gay marriage. You're against civil rights. It's wanting to treat gay people like they are fucking outcasts. They're human. They're Americans. Just because they admit they want to suck dick while all you fucking religious people hide it doesn't make them less worthy of being treated equally.

[JackieJokeMan]

It's not a fucking opinion to be against fucking gay marriage.

It is an opinion to be against gay marriage. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it any less valid.

[Gvac]

Just because they admit they want to suck dick while all you fucking religious people hide it doesn't make them less worthy of being treated equally.

Christ!

If that doesn't, what does?

[JackieJokeMan]

oh enjoy, no doubt.
But for as long as you stay anonymous like that and continue to make comments of that sort about women I will think that you are some obese sweaty old man with little hair and no game... that's my joy of the internet forum.

The fact that you resorted to ad hominem attacks says more about you than it does about him.

His opinion is equally valid whether he dates tens or if he is a virgin. If Dude! thinks that Miss North Carolina USA is a "thing", the appearance of his current or previous girlfriends has nothing to do with it.

After all, when someone wants to disagree with you, no one brings up the fact that you couldn't keep your marriage together and doomed your son to being raised by a single mother. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

[Kublakhan61]

The fact that you resorted to ad hominem attacks says more about you than it does about him.

His opinion is equally valid whether he dates tens or if he is a virgin. If Dude! thinks that Miss North Carolina USA is a "thing", the appearance of his current or previous girlfriends has nothing to do with it.

After all, when someone wants to disagree with you, no one brings up the fact that you couldn't keep your marriage together and doomed your son to being raised by a single mother. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

38 posts and know so much about Katja... do you only take this name out when you want to attack someone on a personal level while maintaining your other name's good political standing?

You were right until you brought her kid into it. C'mon, guy.

[JackieJokeMan]

38 posts and know so much about Katja... do you only take this name out when you want to attack someone on a personal level while maintaining your other name's good political standing?

You were right until you brought her kid into it. C'mon, guy.

Well forgive me for paying attention.

This is my only screen name.

I didn't say anything negative about her kid. I just feel bad for him.

[TheMojoPin]

It is an opinion to be against gay marriage. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it any less valid.

Which, like Underdog pointed out, is a total cop-out. It's not just about being "against" gay marriage simply as a personal opinion. It's supporting denying certain American citizens their civil rights.

[Dude!]

Which, like Underdog pointed out, is a total cop-out. It's not just about being "against" gay marriage simply as a personal opinion. It's supporting denying certain American citizens their civil rights.

this is not meant as a flip question
nor is it a slippery-slope question
it is a real question:

if the mormons
or anyone else
wanted to sanction one husband
with 6 wives

and the husband was a willing, consenting adult
and the 6 wives were all willing, consenting adults

why shouldn't that be legal?

[ToiletCrusher]

this is not meant as a flip question
nor is it a slippery-slope question
it is a real question:

if the mormons
or anyone else
wanted to sanction one husband
with 6 wives

and the husband was a willing, consenting adult
and the 6 wives were all willing, consenting adults

why shouldn't that be legal?



I could only imagine splitting earnings 6 ways and the potential burden placed on the husband financially.

[TheMojoPin]

this is not meant as a flip question
nor is it a slippery-slope question
it is a real question:

if the mormons
or anyone else
wanted to sanction one husband
with 6 wives

and the husband was a willing, consenting adult
and the 6 wives were all willing, consenting adults

why shouldn't that be legal?

Isn't intellectually disengenuous and a clear strawman putting that out there as if that situation and gay marrige are somehow comparable? That's a completely different legal situation than what we're talking about. At the end of the day we're talking about two consenting people who want to be legally joined. 1 guy legally joining with 6 women isn't even remotely the same.

[Dude!]

Isn't intellectually disengenuous and a clear strawman putting that out there as if that situation and gay marrige are somehow comparable? That's a completely different legal situation than what we're talking about. At the end of the day we're talking about two consenting people who want to be legally joined. 1 guy legally joining with 6 women isn't even remotely the same.

take the question out of the context
of gay marriage
and just address it on its own merits

in a free society
should a person be allowed to have
multiple legal partners?

[underdog]

take the question out of the context
of gay marriage
and just address it on its own merits

in a free society
should a person be allowed to have
multiple legal partners?

Yes. As long as everyone is consenting, I don't see what the problem is.

[TheMojoPin]

Yes. As long as everyone is consenting, I don't see what the problem is.

Pretty much. If they want to do it an everyone involved is able to consent and of legal age, go for it. I just think it's a false point to bring it up as a type of counterpoint to gay marriage. They're two very different situations.

[JackieJokeMan]

Which, like Underdog pointed out, is a total cop-out. It's not just about being "against" gay marriage simply as a personal opinion. It's supporting denying certain American citizens their civil rights.

You are assuming facts not in evidence.

Gay marriage is not a civil right. Sorry. Try again later.

[Gvac]

This is a slippery slope.

[underdog]

Gay marriage is not a civil right. Sorry. Try again later.

Why isn't it?

[JackieJokeMan]

Why isn't it?

Because the legislatures and courts of this country haven't said it is.

[silera]

I can't get married in a synagogue because I am not Jewish. The US Gov't doesn't forces rabbis to marry catholics.

Can someone explain why making gay marriage legal means that all religions will be forced to marry gays?

Also, I think polygamy should be legal too. Mormons are so boring and the only cool thing that they ever did they had to renounce.

[underdog]

Because the legislatures and courts of this country haven't said it is.

So segregation is fine, until the courts said it isn't?

[SatCam]

this is not meant as a flip question
nor is it a slippery-slope question
it is a real question:

if the mormons
or anyone else
wanted to sanction one husband
with 6 wives

and the husband was a willing, consenting adult
and the 6 wives were all willing, consenting adults

why shouldn't that be legal?

Because marriage is between a man and a woman, remember??????

We're not arguing about polygamy here. How do you know that I dont support people's rights to be polygamists? Because I really have no problem with it. So your point is moot............................

[Crispy123]

What if someone wanted to marry a donkey should that be legal? Thats whats next if two dudes get it on!

[keithy_19]

Libertarian.

[Dude!]

Because marriage is between a man and a woman, remember??????

We're not arguing about polygamy here. How do you know that I dont support people's rights to be polygamists? Because I really have no problem with it. So your point is moot............................

um....how did this question
become about you?

it was directed at mojopin specifically
and the membership in general

[SatCam]

um....how did this question
become about you?

it was directed at mojopin specifically
and the membership in general

I am just trying to prove that someone who supports people's right to gay marriage might also support people's right to polygamy. Plus what does it matter if Mojo supports one thing but not the other. Does that make him a hypocrite or something?

[JackieJokeMan]

So segregation is fine, until the courts said it isn't?

Non sequitur. I never used the word "fine".

[underdog]

Non sequitur. I never used the word "fine".

Then you're just arguing semantics. Have fun.

[JackieJokeMan]

Then you're just arguing semantics. Have fun.

I won the argument, so I did have fun.

[TheMojoPin]

No, I won.

So there.

[Gvac]

Fuck it. Let people marry dogs.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT???

[TheMojoPin]

Fuck it. Let people marry dogs.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT???

Shut up, wolf-fucker.

[Gvac]

Shut up, wolf-fucker.

I never said I would marry one though.

That's just sick.

[TheMojoPin]

That's because you want to marry a lobster.

[Gvac]

You take that back, cockroach eater!

[TheMojoPin]

And a shark will be the minister!

[Gvac]

You've gone mad.

When I'm on the ocean chlorination committee I'll scrawl your name on every dead shark that floats to the surface.

And I'll laugh and laugh and laugh.

[TheMojoPin]

And Rich will play the ceremony, clad only in a beard, a vest and your hat.

[Gvac]

God I hate that guy.

Don't you?

[JackieJokeMan]

In a time like this to stand up and say "I don't believe in gay marriage" is proof that she isn't ready for the spotlight - she didn't see this coming?

Your statement makes no sense. One has nothing to do with the other.

[brettmojo]

Can someone explain why making gay marriage legal means that all religions will be forced to marry gays?
As I understand it, which I may not at all who knows, if gay marriage is legalized on the federal level then churches would not be able to refuse to conduct gay wedding ceremonies even if homosexuality is against their teachings because if they did they would lose their tax exempt status. It's also been suggested they would rather shut down entirely than be forced to conduct gay weddings.

This is where my problem with it lies. Let gays marry, have children, raise families, parade in drag whatever... But religions should not have to compromise their beliefs, however disagreeable some people in Hollywood might find them, by order of any government when no one is having their human rights violated because of them.

[underdog]

As I understand it, which I may not at all who knows, if gay marriage is legalized on the federal level then churches would not be able to refuse to conduct gay wedding ceremonies even if homosexuality is against their teachings because if they did they would lose their tax exempt status. It's also been suggested by those churches would rather shut down entirely than be forced to conduct gay weddings.

I'm pretty sure that's not right.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm pretty sure that's not right.

It's not.

[EliSnow]

As I understand it, which I may not at all who knows, if gay marriage is legalized on the federal level then churches would not be able to refuse to conduct gay wedding ceremonies even if homosexuality is against their teachings because if they did they would lose their tax exempt status. It's also been suggested they would rather shut down entirely than be forced to conduct gay weddings.

This is where my problem with it lies. Let gays marry, have children, raise families, parade in drag whatever... But religions should not have to compromise their beliefs, however disagreeable some people in Hollywood might find them, by order of any government when no one is having their human rights violated because of them.


You're absolutely wrong. Legalizing gay marriages just means that the government recognizes them. Organized religions still can say that they don't recognize those marriages.

As for a clear example, the government recognizes divorces of catholics, but the Catholic Church does not unless it wants to. And it doesn't. It allows couples to annul their marriages in few situations, but it doesn't recognize divorce. As a result, the church still considers my aunt to be married to the gay man she first married, and not the man she later married in a civil service and who fathered her two children.

[brettmojo]

Then what the hell was Bill Donahue talking about the other day on O&A? I thought I heard him talk about that. If they can't be forced to acknowledge or conduct gay weddings then who cares?

But when people start trying to marry trees and animals I don't want to hear the bitching.

[underdog]

Then what the hell was Bill Donahue talking about the other day on O&A? I thought I heard him talk about that. If they can't be forced to acknowledge or conduct gay weddings then who cares?

Wait a second here. It looks like you're accusing Bill Donahue of lying and fear mongering. That's not the Bill Donahue I know!

[EliSnow]

Then what the hell was Bill Donahue talking about the other day on O&A? I thought I heard him talk about that. If they can't be forced to acknowledge or conduct gay weddings then who cares?

But when people start trying to marry trees and animals I don't want to hear the bitching.

You should never accept what that man says as being accurate.

[FezsAssistant]

liberals are so tolerant of other opinions.

[brettmojo]

Wait a second here. It looks like you're accusing Bill Donahue of lying and fear mongering. That's not the Bill Donahue I know!

You should never accept what that man says as being accurate.
But it was said ON THE RADIO! It HAS to be true.

[sailor]

As I understand it, which I may not at all who knows, if gay marriage is legalized on the federal level then churches would not be able to refuse to conduct gay wedding ceremonies even if homosexuality is against their teachings because if they did they would lose their tax exempt status. It's also been suggested they would rather shut down entirely than be forced to conduct gay weddings.

This is where my problem with it lies. Let gays marry, have children, raise families, parade in drag whatever... But religions should not have to compromise their beliefs, however disagreeable some people in Hollywood might find them, by order of any government when no one is having their human rights violated because of them.

I'm pretty sure that's not right.

correct, gays can't have children. unless he's talkin' ass babies.

[underdog]

liberals are so tolerant of other opinions.

Yawn.

[Gvac]

http://www.jewcy.com/files/images/gay_marriage_opponents-1-731273.jpg

[TjM]

I don't see why everyone can't just call it whatever they want.


I call it misery am I right guys


AH BOOOO! :help:

[TheMojoPin]

liberals are so tolerant of other opinions.

I abolutely love how truly intolerant people try to flip this like THEY'RE the ones being "persecuted" because of their "non-PC opinions," maaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn.

[TheMojoPin]

I call it misery am I right guys


AH BOOOO! :help:

http://www.loti.com/articles/Timeless_Laughter_html_58a3d304.jpg

[sailor]

I abolutely love how truly intolerant people try to flip this like THEY'RE the ones being "persecuted" because of their "non-PC opinions," maaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn.

at least on this board the more conservative members are a bit tolerant of the left, but in reverse you get attacked for having your opinion. not saying that's how the world is, but there definitely is bias on here, in my opinion.

[TjM]

I can't get married in a synagogue because I am not Jewish. The US Gov't doesn't forces rabbis to marry catholics.

Can someone explain why making gay marriage legal means that all religions will be forced to marry gays?

Also, I think polygamy should be legal too. Mormons are so boring and the only cool thing that they ever did they had to renounce.

That's all I need is 4 women going to bed with disappointed looks on their faces at night :drunk:

I should be wearing a multicolored bowtie

[TheMojoPin]

at least on this board the more conservative members are a bit tolerant of the left, but in reverse you get attacked for having your opinion. not saying that's how the world is, but there definitely is bias on here, in my opinion.

It's not "bias." It's just people. There are more people here that lean to the Left, period. Shocker that a show with a gay cohost would have such a demographic, I know. "Bias" implies there's supposed to be some kind of balance forced on the posters or their posts.

And I can't even begin to think of how many posters you're conveniently ignoring for you to think than the conservative posters here are more tolerant than the liberal ones. Both sides give it as good as they get.

[sailor]

It's not "bias." It's just people. There are more people here that lean to the Left, period. Shocker that a show with a gay cohost would have such a demographic, I know. "Bias" implies there's supposed to be some kind of balance forced on the posters or their posts.

And I can't even begin to think of how many posters you're conveniently ignoring for you to think than the conservative posters here are more tolerant than the liberal ones. Both sides give it as good as they get.

i'm not saying there are more on the left here, even tho' there are. no surprise there. i'm saying the people on the left have been outright rude and insulting to me personally on a level i have never been to any of them (to the best of my knowledge). yourself included. just mean-spirited folk sometimes.

maybe there are some like that on the right, but i've not experienced it.

[TheMojoPin]

i'm not saying there are more on the left here, even tho' there are. no surprise there. i'm saying the people on the left have been outright rude and insulting to me personally on a level i have never been to any of them (to the best of my knowledge). yourself included. just mean-spirited folk sometimes.

Everyone is mean to you becase everyone hates you.

[sailor]

Everyone is mean to you becase everyone hates you.

:glurps:

[EliSnow]

http://www.jewcy.com/files/images/gay_marriage_opponents-1-731273.jpg

Self-hater.