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keithy_19
04-28-2009, 10:12 PM
I have no sympathy for people who die via their own actions. I don't mean suicide. I'm talking about people who overdose on drugs (with the exception being when they are prescribed pills that interact with other medications they are taking) and crash their car while driving intoxicated.
I feel bad for the family and friends of the person, but not for them. You assume the risk when you do drugs and drive under the influence.
I kind of feel like a jerk when people are grieving and I feel like the person who died did himself/herself in by acting stupidly.
PapaBear
04-28-2009, 10:15 PM
You're not necessarily a dick. You just look at every case the same way without taking into account all of the other details of people's lives that may have led some of them to die the way they did. What makes you not a dick, is that it's not your responsibility to see the whole picture.
instrument
04-28-2009, 10:15 PM
I have no sympathy for people who die via their own actions. I don't mean suicide. I'm talking about people who overdose on drugs (with the exception being when they are prescribed pills that interact with other medications they are taking) and crash their car while driving intoxicated.
does that make me a dick?
because i don't
i also have no belief in a god, and think we're all as worthwhile as any other creature.
sure i care about people, but i don't put any extra worth on our existence.
why worry?
WampusCrandle
04-28-2009, 10:16 PM
i feel bad sometimes. i wont always feel bad for the drunken driver, but at times, i will; EX: teen's. many will do it, and it happens, and i will feel bad for their deaths (i dont even know why, but i do). for the thirty year old who dies from drinking and driving and i say fuck 'em.
it sounds like you are a dick who die accidentally because of their own actions - so why not suicide? i feel no sympathy for suicide victims.
ToiletCrusher
04-28-2009, 10:17 PM
I have no sympathy for people who die via their own actions. I don't mean suicide. I'm talking about people who overdose on drugs (with the exception being when they are prescribed pills that interact with other medications they are taking) and crash their car while driving intoxicated.
I feel bad for the family and friends of the person, but not for them. You assume the risk when you do drugs and drive under the influence.
I kind of feel like a jerk when people are grieving and I feel like the person who died did himself/herself in by acting stupidly.
But, isn't overdosing a form of suicide?
I too feel bad for the families. But, I agree when with you. They had it coming.
keithy_19
04-28-2009, 10:24 PM
But, isn't overdosing a form of suicide?
I too feel bad for the families. But, I agree when with you. They had it coming.
Overdosing because you're partying. The only reason I make an exception for suicide is because suicide is something that can be prevented, and is a result of depression most of the time. The banker who kills himself cause his stock goes down, fuck him. There's more to live than money.
TooLowBrow
04-28-2009, 10:28 PM
im pretty sure that even if i overdosed right now (which im pretty sure wont happen, its never as good as they say its gonna be) id still have to wake up for work tomorrow
keithy_19
04-28-2009, 10:32 PM
im pretty sure that even if i overdosed right now (which im pretty sure wont happen, its never as good as they say its gonna be) id still have to wake up for work tomorrow
Life sure is grand, ain't it Peter Gibbons?
TooLowBrow
04-28-2009, 10:35 PM
Overdosing because you're partying. The only reason I make an exception for suicide is because suicide is something that can be prevented, and is a result of depression most of the time. The banker who kills himself cause his stock goes down, fuck him. There's more to live than money.
what if the banker kills himself with drugs?
sure the reason is still money but the means to the end is drugs
without the drugs would they still do it?
keithy_19
04-28-2009, 10:38 PM
what if the banker kills himself with drugs?
sure the reason is still money but the means to the end is drugs
without the drugs would they still do it?
Fuck him.
WampusCrandle
04-28-2009, 10:38 PM
Overdosing because you're partying. The only reason I make an exception for suicide is because suicide is something that can be prevented, and is a result of depression most of the time. The banker who kills himself cause his stock goes down, fuck him. There's more to live than money.
i see no difference in overdosing and suicide - both are preventable. just because one has a socially accepted reason to do it, shouldn't be a reason to give it a pass.
TooLowBrow
04-28-2009, 10:41 PM
Fuck him.
i agree
TooLowBrow
04-28-2009, 10:42 PM
i see no difference in overdosing and suicide - both are preventable. just because one has a socially accepted reason to do it, shouldn't be a reason to give it a pass.
one of them might be an accident
WampusCrandle
04-28-2009, 10:46 PM
one of them might be an accident
so, shouldn't we be more mad at the one that planned to kill themselves - the one with depression? whether you lost your money, career, or marriage, they can all end in depression. so, if anything, we should be more made at the one with depression than the one that accidentally killed themselves. they didn't plan for it to happen, the suicidal ones did.
TooLowBrow
04-28-2009, 10:55 PM
so, shouldn't we be more mad at the one that planned to kill themselves - the one with depression? whether you lost your money, career, or marriage, they can all end in depression. so, if anything, we should be more made at the one with depression than the one that accidentally killed themselves. they didn't plan for it to happen, the suicidal ones did.
why be mad at someone in pain?
ive never hurt enough inside to kill myself
i cant imagine what its like
can you?
maybe youd want to die if you felt that way too
PapaBear
04-28-2009, 10:57 PM
why be mad at someone in pain?
I was going to ask the same question. The original topic wasn't about being mad at the people. It was about not having sympathy for them.
WampusCrandle
04-28-2009, 11:02 PM
why be mad at someone in pain?
ive never hurt enough inside to kill myself
i cant imagine what its like
can you?
maybe youd want to die if you felt that way too
well, it's a question of being a dick. i am not gonna get mad at someone for what they have done accidentally. but if someone takes the time to plan something awful out, why not be mad at them? its like that for everything else in life, why not death?
TooLowBrow
04-28-2009, 11:19 PM
well, it's a question of being a dick. i am not gonna get mad at someone for what they have done accidentally. but if someone takes the time to plan something awful out, why not be mad at them? its like that for everything else in life, why not death?
its not a rational thing
how can you expect reason from irrational thoughts in a broken person?
GreatAmericanZero
04-29-2009, 03:50 AM
you feel for the family and friends for their loss..thats all that matters. The dead person doesn't care what you feel about them because they are dead
topless_mike
04-29-2009, 05:40 AM
no, you are not.
i am the same way.
although, its easier to pass judgement on somebody you are not related to.
i am a huuuuge fan of personal responsibility. you are responsible for your own actions.
for example. guy is driving drunk and crashes and dies. if i dont know him, fuck him. he deserved it.
in june of 07, my brother dam near died when he rolled his jeep driving drunk. his seatbelt saved his life.
had he died, yes, i would have been sad, but can i say fuck him, its his own fault?
i dont think so.
King Hippos Bandaid
04-29-2009, 05:42 AM
you sir are a 21st century digital boy
topless_mike
04-29-2009, 05:51 AM
you sir are a 21st century digital boy
i dont know how to live but i got a lot of toys?
Serpico1103
04-29-2009, 07:22 AM
I have no sympathy for people who die via their own actions. I don't mean suicide. I'm talking about people who overdose on drugs (with the exception being when they are prescribed pills that interact with other medications they are taking) and crash their car while driving intoxicated.
I feel bad for the family and friends of the person, but not for them. You assume the risk when you do drugs and drive under the influence.
I kind of feel like a jerk when people are grieving and I feel like the person who died did himself/herself in by acting stupidly.
I think you have simplified the issue. Some people engage in risky behavior hoping to die, without the stigma of suicide.
But, of course, if you are just a reckless ass, then enjoy your ride while it lasts, but don't expect too much sympathy when your train derails.
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