Was I a jerk?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Driving etiquette question:

I was driving with my wife in a strip mall yesterday. The strip mall has a complicated layout, with many pedestrian walkways through the parking lot.

Now, there are actual, "real" stop signs with stop lines and such, and there are the plastic signs in the pedestrian paths that say "Stop for Pedestrians".

It is always been my understanding that you stop for pedestrians if there is a pedestrian in the walkway or if someone has "committed" or made the turn of going into the walkway, or is standing, waiting to go through the walkway. If there is no one in the walkway or there is no "commitment", you go through.

As we're driving through the lot, I see two tremendously fat ladies walking out of the supermarket. They are walking in a straight line down the side walk, and they haven't turned or committed to the pedestrian walkway.

Just at the very POINT where it's too late to stop, they make the turn and IMMEDIATELY the older broad starts yelling at me (my windows are down) that I should stop for pedestrians in the walkway.

I immediately stop the truck and start yelling back and scream her down.

Was I in the wrong for not stopping, as she hadn't committed?

[Fallon]

You should have ran them down.

[drjoek]

Based on who is starting the thread I would assume yes you were a jerk.


Serious answer.
No to the not stopping.
Yes to feeling the need to scream down a couple of "tremendously fat ladies".

[mikeyboy]

Serious answer.
No to the not stopping.
Yes to feeling the need to scream down a couple of "tremendously fat ladies".

Agreed.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Agreed.

It was bad on my part to scream them down (and incidentally, I didn't call them fat or anything when I was yelling, I was just pissed that they started yelling at me when it was one of those split-seconds things)

It wasn't like I was barreling through the lot at 30 MPH. I was doing about 15.

I was more concerned about my etiquette before I lost my mind.

[mendyweiss]

It.................... raining heavily this morning.

a/ is
b/ was
c/ will be

Correct answer, class ?

[SatCam]

I bet you would've stopped if they were pornstars with huge fake tits

[Foster]

I bet you would've stopped if they were pornstars with huge fake tits

sounds like they had huge real tits

[~Katja~]

I am waiting for Liz' side of the story before I decide

[drjoek]

Matty was probably out buying ANOTHER gas grill!

[ChrisTheCop]

Based on who is starting the thread I would assume yes you were a jerk.


Serious answer.
No to the not stopping.
Yes to feeling the need to scream down a couple of "tremendously fat ladies".

Naturally, I had an idea how I was gonna answer as well.... butchanowut?
I gotta agree that Matt was in the right here.
Pedestrians have to realize that they too have responsibilities and for their own safety, they have to make their intentions known.

On a similar note, pedestrians on NYC streets have got to start realizing what a flashing dont walk sign means... it means dont enter the crosswalk if you havent already, and if you have, hurry the fuck up.

[Death Metal Moe]

Just let them cross, they're gonna fucking die of diabetes or heart failure soon enough.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I bet you would've stopped if they were pornstars with huge fake tits

Shit, I would have offered them a ride to their car.

[Tenbatsuzen]

sounds like they had huge real tits

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

[Hottub]

I am waiting for Liz' side of the story before I decide

Second.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Second.

She's currently passed out.

[SatCam]

She's currently passed out.

So that's how it is in the Fridays house

[~Katja~]

She's currently passed out.

So that's how it is in the Fridays house

nah, he probably just run her over in the driveway and then yelled her down for being there and not in the kitchen in the first place

[santino]

god i hate fat chicks! next time spit on her.

[Contra]

With you I always vote jerk

[Death Metal Moe]

She's currently passed out.

Oh Christ, this doesn't mean you're gonna start your own "Is this rape?" thread now does it?

[Death Metal Moe]

With you I always vote jerk

Hot, and Mod Quote plz?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Oh Christ, this doesn't mean you're gonna start your own "Is this rape?" thread now does it?

Matty Fridays > Billy Staples.

Give me SOME credit.

[Dude!]

wow...you are a jerk

and you wonder why
nobody is willing
to send you any hotdogs

[Tenbatsuzen]

Liz has awoken and she says that she will post her version of the story when we get back from Ikea.

[Death Metal Moe]

Matty Fridays > Billy Staples.

Give me SOME credit.

Oh you're adorable when you're defensive, how can I stay mad at you!

Come here ya little so and so, time for some noogies!

[sailor]

driver c's the jerk.

[~Katja~]

Liz has awoken and she says that she will post her version of the story when we get back from Ikea.

meatballs for dinner? Don't forget to buy your coffee there!

[Tenbatsuzen]

meatballs for dinner? Don't forget to buy your coffee there!

No, I'm making pizza bagels for dinner, but we have a nightstand for the guest room and shelving for the kitchen we need to get. They are open til 8 so I'd figure we'd go now and I can get stuff assembled tonight.

[~Katja~]

No, I'm making pizza bagels for dinner, but we have a nightstand for the guest room and shelving for the kitchen we need to get. They are open til 8 so I'd figure we'd go now and I can get stuff assembled tonight.

remember to pay debit for 3% off a future purchase


oh and I am serious, if you like and drink coffee... try theirs

[underdog]

No, I'm making pizza bagels for dinner, but we have a nightstand for the guest room and shelving for the kitchen we need to get. They are open til 8 so I'd figure we'd go now and I can get stuff assembled tonight.

You should pay a company to assemble it.

[~Katja~]

You should pay a company to assemble it.

that's actually the funnest part, why outsource?


while in the parking lot watch out they have swedish street signs

http://nationalsreview.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/moose_crossing.jpg

even a matty friday special one
http://www.theworldaccordingtokang.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/farthinder.jpg

[underdog]

that's actually the funnest part, why outsource?

Because my company makes money from people being too lazy to assemble IKEA furniture.

[Foster]

if this was the sign at the strip mall he could have avoided the situation all together

http://nationalsreview.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/moose_crossing.jpg

[cougarjake13]

shoulda run them over

[boosterp]

I agree with Chris here.

On a side note; you never want to run over fat people because of the damage it'll do to your own vehicle and imagine trying to clean all that skin out from the underside of your vehicle.

[biozombie]

http://www.theworldaccordingtokang.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/farthinder.jpg

is that "no farting" in Swedish? Skydd mot de fattiga!

[~Katja~]

is that "no farting" in Swedish? Skydd mot de fattiga!

no it's hindering the fart to get to the nose and mouth

[STC-Dub]

You were not a jerk as far as the stopping part.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You were not a jerk as far as the stopping part.

Oh totally. I agree that me yelling back was over the line, but I think that was just a little pent up rage brewing at a fat piece of white trash with bad teeth.


Liz is currently asleep. She says she will post her version of the story tomorrow.

[Thebazile78]

Naturally, I had an idea how I was gonna answer as well.... butchanowut?
I gotta agree that Matt was in the right here.
Pedestrians have to realize that they too have responsibilities and for their own safety, they have to make their intentions known.

On a similar note, pedestrians on NYC streets have got to start realizing what a flashing dont walk sign means... it means dont enter the crosswalk if you havent already, and if you have, hurry the fuck up.

That's my point.

When we passed them, they hadn't yet left the curb, nor had they paused to ensure that they would not get smacked by 2 tons of steel. No, they were doing a very slow, rolling amble.

I agree with Chris - while walking, your SAFETY should be your priority, not a yield to pedestrians sign! (And can someone tell the schmucks in Newark who cross against the light that the red hand doesn't mean "Walk" ?)

[DiabloSammich]

if this was the sign at the strip mall he could have avoided the situation all together

http://nationalsreview.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/moose_crossing.jpg




Nice.

[IMSlacker]

That must have been one hell of a trip to Ikea.

[Freitag]

That must have been one hell of a trip to Ikea.

We went to the home office.

[TripleSkeet]

It was bad on my part to scream them down (and incidentally, I didn't call them fat or anything when I was yelling, I was just pissed that they started yelling at me when it was one of those split-seconds things)

It wasn't like I was barreling through the lot at 30 MPH. I was doing about 15.

I was more concerned about my etiquette before I lost my mind.

No need to scream, just turn and calmly say "Shut the fuck up you fucking manatee." I find that tone works best.

[Jujubees2]

First of all, no you're not in the wrong. I teach my kids that even when they have the walk sign to stop before they cross to make sure no traffic is coming.

But I do find it interesting that you had to identify the people involved as "fat". Would it have made a difference if they were skinny (or men)?

[vamessenger]

First of all, no you're not in the wrong. I teach my kids that even when they have the walk sign to stop before they cross to make sure no traffic is coming.

But I do find it interesting that you had to identify the people involved as "fat". Would it have made a difference if they were skinny (or men)?

By them being fat it makes them easier to yell at. I say you did absolutely nothing wrong, with the not stopping or the yelling. Pedestrians need to pay more attention and don't think that just because they are walking they can do anything they want.

On a side note, one of my most favorite things to do as a bike messenger was hit pedestrians who tried to "ignore" me coming through a green light. Nothing more fun then seeing books and shit all over the road from stupid college kids.

[Freitag]

First of all, no you're not in the wrong. I teach my kids that even when they have the walk sign to stop before they cross to make sure no traffic is coming.

But I do find it interesting that you had to identify the people involved as "fat". Would it have made a difference if they were skinny (or men)?

I think it was just a descriptor for the story. These people weren't "overweight" or "chubby". They were BOTH the very, textbook definition of "Morbidly Obese". Two steps away from Gilbert Grape's mom.

[SatCam]

That's my point.

When we passed them, they hadn't yet left the curb, nor had they paused to ensure that they would not get smacked by 2 tons of steel. No, they were doing a very slow, rolling amble.

I agree with Chris - while walking, your SAFETY should be your priority, not a yield to pedestrians sign! (And can someone tell the schmucks in Newark who cross against the light that the red hand doesn't mean "Walk" ?)

she's alive!

[Dell]

Driving etiquette question:

I was driving with my wife in a strip mall yesterday. The strip mall has a complicated layout, with many pedestrian walkways through the parking lot.

Now, there are actual, "real" stop signs with stop lines and such, and there are the plastic signs in the pedestrian paths that say "Stop for Pedestrians".

It is always been my understanding that you stop for pedestrians if there is a pedestrian in the walkway or if someone has "committed" or made the turn of going into the walkway, or is standing, waiting to go through the walkway. If there is no one in the walkway or there is no "commitment", you go through.

As we're driving through the lot, I see two tremendously fat ladies walking out of the supermarket. They are walking in a straight line down the side walk, and they haven't turned or committed to the pedestrian walkway.

Just at the very POINT where it's too late to stop, they make the turn and IMMEDIATELY the older broad starts yelling at me (my windows are down) that I should stop for pedestrians in the walkway.

I immediately stop the truck and start yelling back and scream her down.

Was I in the wrong for not stopping, as she hadn't committed?

scenario does not require you to stop, but would you have screamed her down if she were not fat?

[biggirl]

pedestrians, fat or not, are a pain in the ass. I wouldn't worry about it. As for you yelling at them...they started it. No biggie!

[Tenbatsuzen]

scenario does not require you to stop, but would you have screamed her down if she were not fat?

Yes.