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MacVittie
05-07-2009, 02:47 PM
There have been quite a few anti-Fez threads recently. Do you think the people who create them and/or partake in them are fans who have just criticism of the show, fans who expect too much from the show, or just trolls who want to make trouble?

Contra
05-07-2009, 02:49 PM
Anti fez threads are not cool, AT ALL!

WampusCrandle
05-07-2009, 02:49 PM
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Gvac
05-07-2009, 02:50 PM
No poll?

It's my belief that a lot of them are long time fans who are frustrated.

Hottub
05-07-2009, 02:50 PM
I'll let you handle this one, Wampus.

Contra
05-07-2009, 02:52 PM
You think I'm not frustrated? I don't see too many anti Ron threads, just saying.

GreatAmericanZero
05-07-2009, 02:52 PM
i think alot of them just want attention from Fezfez

Suspect Chin
05-07-2009, 02:53 PM
I think they are valid opinions of people who listen to the show regularly. This message board is officially dedicated to the Ron and Fez show, so it is not surprising people will post about the show every once in a while and some of those posts will be negative.

MacVittie
05-07-2009, 02:53 PM
i think alot of them just want attention from Fezfez

which has worked in the past since he has given them that attention

boosterg
05-07-2009, 02:54 PM
There have been quite a few anti-Fez threads recently. Do you think the people who create them and/or partake in them are fans who have just criticism of the show, fans who expect too much from the show, or just trolls who want to make trouble?

i was just thinkin' today
-how many bored caracters does that jay mohr have ?

disneyspy
05-07-2009, 02:54 PM
i have a 5th option,i believe its people who are desperate to get their board name mentioned on the show *cough TC cough*

FezsAssistant
05-07-2009, 02:56 PM
new poll option:

they are new listeners who take their cues from the show (ron and staff) which treats Fez like shit

Death Metal Moe
05-07-2009, 03:01 PM
There has been a few frustrated fans who have discussed how they want the "Old Fez" back, and sure, I understand that. But those threads are usually accompanied with the opinion that even with Fez dealing with his problems, we still want him on the show and are more than willing to keep listening to a great radio show.

This new crop of Anti Fez threads have been mostly trolls plain and simple. People who are haters with no interest in discussing anything. People who don't want to contribute to this community, only to post in Anti Fez threads. People who over analyze what Fez does and then come in here with very detailed "solutions" for Fez's problems when we don't know a Goddamn thing about the man's REAL personal life other than the little he shares on air. People who think they know better than Ron, a man who has been Fez's friend for decades and has been there for him through the good and bad.

This new crops of Anti Fez threads are just garbage used to stir up shit, get the poster attention and try to take shots at Fezfez who they now know posts and reads here.

I don't think there has ever been one honest discussion stopped on this message board. It's the troll threads that are only meant to stir up the members into fighting and take unfair, continuous shots at Fez that are usually called out for what they are, made fun of, the original poster is attacked, they get all jerky and start quoting board policy, and it gets locked.

So maybe in the end, those threads get exactly what they deserve anyway.

Contra
05-07-2009, 03:04 PM
Amen DMM, amen

WampusCrandle
05-07-2009, 03:05 PM
DMM - are you just trying to write off those that give criticism of Fez, because that is all that i get from your post.

i think because the newer posters are more direct, and that bothers some posters.

Death Metal Moe
05-07-2009, 03:06 PM
DMM - are you just trying to write off those that give criticism of Fez, because that is all that i get from your post.

i think because the newer posters are more direct, and that bothers some posters.

It's not my fault your reading comprehension is so low.

WampusCrandle
05-07-2009, 03:08 PM
It's not my fault your reading comprehension is so low.

no, i reread your post. it seems like you want to be able to stay friendly with Fez and criticize him at the same time. some posters don't, because they aren't friends of the show, they are just fans.

Death Metal Moe
05-07-2009, 03:09 PM
no, i reread your post. it seems like you want to be able to stay friendly with Fez and criticize him at the same time. some posters don't, because they aren't friends of the show, they are just fans.

Nope, try again. You'll get it after a 3rd time, I'm sure of it!

West.Coast.Skippy
05-07-2009, 03:10 PM
speaking just for myself, someone relatively new to the show, i've posted out of real concern for fez, and from the opinion that his job and most of the on-air treatment isn't conducive to him healing. but lately i've been fatigued by all the worry and have just been enjoying the music conversations and the ron/dave dynamic. fez was really rough going into the holidays and the "melodrama" was compelling. now it is tired for me and honestly i question the ethics of being entertained by real mental illness. on top of that, the posts fez has made here (which i half think show a steeled over projection obscuring serious self loathing) make me feel that he doesn't want "concern" from anonymous message boarders. hey- no sweat.

boosterp
05-07-2009, 03:15 PM
calling all mods, calling all mods! there is about to be a board* fight!


You know, when he was active Gvac did make a cool mod over at FBA.

On topic: trolls. In another thread a wonderful analogy was made: I do not like American Idol but I am not a member of their message board.

Dell
05-07-2009, 04:52 PM
i have a 5th option,i believe its people who are desperate to get their board name mentioned on the show *cough TC cough*

beat me to it... motivation of way too many

conman823
05-07-2009, 05:28 PM
Fez remains a soft target.


The ESD hater threads got old. (Although still relevant)

God forbid a cross word be said about Ron.

Earl quit.

Gvac
05-07-2009, 05:34 PM
i was just thinkin' today
-how many bored caracters does that jay mohr have ?

You're a very astute man, Mr. booster.

conman823
05-07-2009, 05:37 PM
i was just thinkin' today
-how many bored caracters does that jay mohr have ?

Yeah that Ricky24 has had a lot of activity since his majesty declared "Your moms box".

In fact let's check.........

Last Activity: Today 11:01 AM

POST YOU DOUCHE BAG COWARD!!!

Gvac
05-07-2009, 05:39 PM
Yeah that Ricky24 has had a lot of activity since his majesty declared "Your moms box".

In fact let's check.........



POST YOU DOUCHE BAG COWARD!!!

Oh boy...now you've done it!

He's gonna kick your ass!

biozombie
05-07-2009, 05:58 PM
This poll stinks without an "How The Fuck Am I Supposed To Know the Motivations Behind Strange People's Posts" option, but you're still a sweet boy, MacVittie.

ToiletCrusher
05-07-2009, 06:02 PM
Troll.

MacVittie
05-07-2009, 06:06 PM
This poll stinks without an "How The Fuck Am I Supposed To Know the Motivations Behind Strange People's Posts" option, but you're still a sweet boy, MacVittie.

It isn't a test with right or wrong answers, just throw out your gut reaction to all the recent whining.

conman823
05-07-2009, 06:07 PM
Troll.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f399/myfask/258Troll_spray.jpg

mikeyboy
05-07-2009, 06:08 PM
It isn't a test with right or wrong answers, just throw out your gut reaction to all the recent whining.

I added it as an option anyway.

biozombie
05-07-2009, 06:09 PM
I added it as an option anyway.

I take back all of the horrible things I wrote about you in my blog.

Gvac
05-07-2009, 06:10 PM
I take back all of the horrible things I wrote about you in my blog.

Trust your first instincts.

mikeyboy
05-07-2009, 06:16 PM
I take back all of the horrible things I wrote about you in my blog.

You can ignore all of the hurtful comments I posted there.

mikeyboy
05-07-2009, 06:16 PM
Trust your first instincts.

Admit it. You love me.

Gvac
05-07-2009, 06:23 PM
Admit it. You love me.

You wish.

Fucking queer.

WampusCrandle
05-07-2009, 06:26 PM
You wish to Fuck queers.

oh Gvac, why?

Stuft
05-07-2009, 06:31 PM
As hot as this thread is with all the (homo) sexual tension, it only draws attention to the *anti-fez* cause, which is uber ridiculous - in and of itself. Fez is pure GOLD, mental issues or not. You don't like it? Turn the dial. It's not rocket science. :wallbash:

Gvac
05-07-2009, 06:38 PM
There are other channels on XM?

ToiletCrusher
05-07-2009, 06:39 PM
There are other channels on XM?

gay techno.

WampusCrandle
05-07-2009, 06:42 PM
gay techno.

no no no no no - different channels

STC-Dub
05-07-2009, 07:06 PM
How do I know? I don't even know my motivations most of the time.

#1FanofESD
05-07-2009, 07:25 PM
There have been quite a few anti-Fez threads recently. Do you think the people who create them and/or partake in them are fans who have just criticism of the show, fans who expect too much from the show, or just trolls who want to make trouble?

The fact that there is a thread titled 'Anti-Fex threads' says it all.

Do you see any 'Anti-Ron' or Anti-Dave' threads? No.

WampusCrandle
05-07-2009, 07:25 PM
The fact that there is a thread titled 'Anti-Fex threads' says it all.

Do you see any 'Anti-Ron' or Anti-Dave' threads? No.

there is a massive anti-dave thread. if you look you will find it.

ToiletCrusher
05-07-2009, 07:29 PM
Fex?

WampusCrandle
05-07-2009, 07:30 PM
The fact that there is a thread titled 'Anti-Fex threads' says it all.

Do you see any 'Anti-Ron' or Anti-Dave' threads? No.

here is your Anti-Dave thread (http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=56223&highlight=anti+dave+ESD) - quite long

underdog
05-07-2009, 07:33 PM
Fucking queer.

Yes?

The fact that there is a thread titled 'Anti-Fex threads' says it all.

Do you see any 'Anti-Dave' threads? No.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2008/07/21/ramirez_manny_courtesy_260.jpg

Brad in Bama
05-07-2009, 08:04 PM
No poll?

It's my belief that a lot of them are long time fans who are frustrated.

I'm going to agree with this one. I think that's the way Ron is handling it too. It's probably got to be harder for him to see his friend/partner going down this road that really doesn't make a lot of sense to anyone but himself.

I think people are giving Ron too much shit for being tough on Fez and trying to get him outside of his own head.

drjoek
05-08-2009, 05:40 AM
there is a massive anti-dave thread. if you look you will find it.

One might call it Penultimate- its that big

ANC
05-08-2009, 05:44 AM
add to the poll choices "People who just want the thread mentioned on the air" and I'll vote.

yojimbo7248
05-08-2009, 06:06 AM
I put 'troll' down because what good can these threads bring? Do you think Fez chooses to be like this? It's frustrating that Fez is in a bad spot but what can we say that hasn't already been said? I feel badly for the guy.

I also think that talking about his problems over and over on the air gets very dull. It's the same discussion they have had over the last couple of years.

I haven't listened for a couple of months and have just tuned in again over the last couple of days. I was surprised at how little had changed with Fez's mental issues. I really feel badly for the guy that he hasn't made an inch of progress. He hasn't even come out publicly. At least saying he is gay out loud would change the conversation. Or am I getting it wrong? Have they made a decision that maintaining the 'secret' is still working as a bit? Are we going to get "Santa Still Has a Secret" Xmas 2009?

TjM
05-08-2009, 06:19 AM
There has been a few frustrated fans who have discussed how they want the "Old Fez" back, and sure, I understand that. But those threads are usually accompanied with the opinion that even with Fez dealing with his problems, we still want him on the show and are more than willing to keep listening to a great radio show.

This new crop of Anti Fez threads have been mostly trolls plain and simple. People who are haters with no interest in discussing anything. People who don't want to contribute to this community, only to post in Anti Fez threads. People who over analyze what Fez does and then come in here with very detailed "solutions" for Fez's problems when we don't know a Goddamn thing about the man's REAL personal life other than the little he shares on air. People who think they know better than Ron, a man who has been Fez's friend for decades and has been there for him through the good and bad.

This new crops of Anti Fez threads are just garbage used to stir up shit, get the poster attention and try to take shots at Fezfez who they now know posts and reads here.

I don't think there has ever been one honest discussion stopped on this message board. It's the troll threads that are only meant to stir up the members into fighting and take unfair, continuous shots at Fez that are usually called out for what they are, made fun of, the original poster is attacked, they get all jerky and start quoting board policy, and it gets locked.

So maybe in the end, those threads get exactly what they deserve anyway.


This

Dell
05-08-2009, 06:21 AM
As hot as this thread is with all the (homo) sexual tension, it only draws attention to the *anti-fez* cause, which is uber ridiculous - in and of itself. Fez is pure GOLD, mental issues or not. You don't like it? Turn the dial. It's not rocket science. :wallbash:

your receiver has a dial?

WampusCrandle
05-08-2009, 08:25 AM
This

short, simple and sweet.

nickypeeps
05-09-2009, 06:10 PM
i think a lot of it is people having some ideal for what the show should be or once was and thinking it will one day be exactly that, like it needs to be fixed. i don't get it. i can't fucking stand when people talk sports, but i will listen to ron and fez and dave talk about sports all day long. i guess its the difference between being a fan of the show and a fan of solely being entertained the way you want. like the way lsome iberals need to watch msnbc and conservatives, FOX. god forbid they hear something they can't like and agree with 100% of the time as if it's the thoughts in their own fucking head

Stuft
05-09-2009, 06:15 PM
your receiver has a dial?

I get to only listen online, so no, actually. Clickity click click click. That better? :dry:

RMPGP
05-09-2009, 10:40 PM
which has worked in the past since he has given them that attention

Or the show in general. ESD brought up FartHammer.

Yes they definitely want to be mentioned on the show or skewered by FezFez, it's an attention thing. You can get immediate attention (something trolls with no lives love) just by shitting on somebody and voila, anti-fez threads.

WampusCrandle
05-10-2009, 03:59 PM
Or the show in general. ESD brought up FartHammer.

Yes they definitely want to be mentioned on the show or skewered by FezFez, it's an attention thing. You can get immediate attention (something trolls with no lives love) just by shitting on somebody and voila, anti-fez threads.

I didn't want to be brought up on the show.

Death Metal Moe
05-10-2009, 04:04 PM
I didn't want to be brought up on the show.

Quiet Wampus Cradle.

tee hee.

WampusCrandle
05-10-2009, 09:58 PM
Quiet Wampus Cradle.

tee hee.

oh you!

led37zep
05-10-2009, 10:03 PM
I didn't want to be brought up on the show.

What was said about you on the show?

disneyspy
05-11-2009, 02:28 AM
What was said about you on the show?

hes another useless,no-life,attention seekin,troll. boy i shoulda saved this for the person above you thread

WampusCrandle
05-11-2009, 04:02 AM
What was said about you on the show?

well, to be honest, he doesn't like Wampus Cradle. maybe i am in the clear?

Yosammity
05-11-2009, 04:15 AM
I think the anti-Fez people just don't get the show.

Farthammer
05-11-2009, 05:48 AM
Fez is an adult and if he can't take criticism from fans he shouldn't be on the radio.

I don't hate the guy at all and he makes me laugh quite often.

My annoying thread was just what I was feeling at that moment. I was sick of hearing about his constant problems. Mostly because it seems like he isn't really getting resolution.

I don't understand how people are acting as if I am not a fan, who are they to judge this....

Farthammer
05-11-2009, 05:48 AM
I think the anti-Fez people just don't get the show.

Please I get the show just fine. It isn't rocket science.

Farthammer
05-11-2009, 05:49 AM
well, to be honest, he doesn't like Wampus Cradle. maybe i am in the clear?

I think you are ok. Wampus Cradle is a real ass though.

helterskeletor
05-11-2009, 07:23 AM
none of the above. they want the threads talked about on air.

Farthammer
05-11-2009, 08:21 AM
none of the above. they want the threads talked about on air.

BS Getting mentioned on air was not my intention.

Dell
05-11-2009, 08:21 AM
looks like someone wants another mention...

Farthammer
05-11-2009, 08:24 AM
looks like someone wants another mention...

Who?

Death Metal Moe
05-11-2009, 10:19 AM
Fez is an adult and if he can't take criticism from fans he shouldn't be on the radio.

I don't hate the guy at all and he makes me laugh quite often.

My annoying thread was just what I was feeling at that moment. I was sick of hearing about his constant problems. Mostly because it seems like he isn't really getting resolution.

I don't understand how people are acting as if I am not a fan, who are they to judge this....

You don't get it. You listen for years and liked it. The second Fez starts talking about something you're not interested in, that is your ONLY motivation to come in here and say something on a "fansite"

If you really don't understand why you are called a troll after my explanation then you're just being difficult to either a) Stir up shit because you're bored or b) Get your stupid little opinion brought up on air because Fez posts here now.

I never seen you for the 8 years I posted here and suddenly you pop up to shit on Fez? No dice.

Philly Franko
05-11-2009, 10:53 AM
LUV the Fezzster...the Nature BOOOOy !!!!!!:clap:

Death Metal Moe
05-11-2009, 03:43 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/njdmmoe/1241833964872.png

WampusCrandle
05-11-2009, 05:19 PM
I think you are ok. Wampus Cradle is a real ass though.

he really is a dick!

vamessenger
05-11-2009, 09:59 PM
I wanted to vote for "people that have their own opinion", but I didn't see that one one there.

Hosstetler
05-11-2009, 10:28 PM
People who have a hard time feeling bad for a millionaire who can't bother to show up to work?

Dell
05-12-2009, 03:00 AM
thread should be renamed "seeking a show mention"