Fez was 100% right today…about everything.

[Turtle]

American Idol- My ten year old daughter watched this season of American Idol, so by extension I saw much more of this program than I wanted. My daughter wanted the “normal looking boy” to win because he is “kind of cute.” She called in a few times to cast her vote and most of her friends claimed to the same thing. In my opinion the kid who won, Kris Allen, did not have the most talent nor was he a better singer, he was simply more palatable to the voting block than Adam Lambert. So when Fez claimed today that Lambert didn’t win because of “how he looked and who he was, not because he was a better singer.” I must agree with him. So Fez was dead on.





The MacDonald Baby Pandemic- Fez is the best friend that Dave has. I say that because Fez had the courage to tell Dave the truth. He didn’t sugar coat it, he didn’t try and make Dave feel better about his situation, instead, Fez came out like a true friend and threw the ice cold water of reality in Dave’s face. Wake up and smell the baby diapers, look at the cost of formula, hear the chaos that is two kids under 12 months of age in your house. With help and support I hope that these two kids grow up to happy healthy adults and if they do, thank Fez because he is catalyst that will have caused significant change in that home.

[hammersavage]

A kid or your chick is no excuse for watching American Idol. I'm sick of the mikeyboy defense.

[Turtle]

A kid or your chick is no excuse for watching American Idol. I'm sick of the mikeyboy defense.

You make a valid point; I’ll go throw my TV or child in the trash. Do you have a preference which one I get rid of?

[hammersavage]

You can always buy a new child

[Turtle]

You can always buy a new child

It is a nice TV.

[drjoek]

Fez WAS correct with the tough love but he should have left Casey out of it.
ESD feels fine attacking Fez then gets his feelings hurt when Fez fights back.
I know its not the popular opinion BUT Fez does better when ESD is a bit player. Today was fun when Dave called in and contributed to the show but Fez won the Beanie Cup today for a reason. He shared the show with Ron.

[MacVittie]

Fez reducing the American Idol competition to a referendum on homosexuality is just ridiculous. The only quality Fez could see in Adam Lambert was that he was a gay singer, nothing else mattered to him. I think he's just using the Lambert loss as another reason to never tell his secret. In Fez's mind, this Idol decision couldn't possibly have come from anything but America's hatred of gays, so Fez telling his secret would just lead to persecution, despite the fact that everyone around Fez has told them they accept him for who he is.

[paulisded]

I've never understood the "my wife/kid/gf/mother likes to watch it" defense. Can't you go into another room and watch something else? Do you have to spend ever moment together? If you do, can't you spend that time reading or online?

As for the Dave situation, I find it fascinating that people believe their opinions matter. You don't know the whole story, and how dare anybody make proclamations such as Dave has no right to have children or Casey needs to get off paltalk. There are bigger messes around these boards that spend much more time online and/or have many more kids they really don't have the means to support.

[CountryBob]

Fez made valid points about Dave's situation but I couldnt help but feel that those should have been said before the baby was born. Now is the time to support and help instead of bringing him down. You know that Dave and Casey know what time it is - they dont need good friends reminding them of certain thing that people perceive about their life together. Hell, they just had a baby and Fez kept harping about all the negative - should be harping on the positive. But, I agree with some of his points and if I new Dave and Casey I would never say a negative word.

i can understand that the gay community is always looking for something to rally behind in the public media and the loss of Adam in AI finale was a letdown for them. I am a pretty good singer and to tell you - as far as talent goes - Adam has more than Kris. But Ron nailed it on the head that the average demo of the voters are teen girls and Adam probably scares them a little. A shame because He should have won.

[Turtle]

Fez WAS correct with the tough love but he should have left Casey out of it.

Normally I would agree with you on this, but here is my question. Who is the responsible grown up in the relationship? Surely it’s not ESD. The sooner Casey is back on her feet the better for the family.

[underdog]

A kid or your chick is no excuse for watching American Idol. I'm sick of the mikeyboy defense.

I have no excuse.

And I thought the mikeyboy defense was "I didn't see the adam's apple".

[Turtle]

I've never understood the "my wife/kid/gf/mother likes to watch it" defense. Can't you go into another room and watch something else? Do you have to spend ever moment together? If you do, can't you spend that time reading or online?

As for the Dave situation, I find it fascinating that people believe their opinions matter. You don't know the whole story, and how dare anybody make proclamations such as Dave has no right to have children or Casey needs to get off paltalk. There are bigger messes around these boards that spend much more time online and/or have many more kids they really don't have the means to support.

I could go to another room, but I sit with the family after dinner and do computer work while they watch TV, it lets me spend time with the family and still get some work done. The truth of the matter is I like sitting with them and watching the kids dance and sing during the show, it makes me think about the good times I had as a child.

My opinion was that Fez was right today about Dave & his situation. I made no proclamations regarding Dave and his right to kids or about Casey and the computer. What I did was point out that Fez was being a good friend to Dave by telling him to take a hard look at the situation.

[Furtherman]

Who is the responsible grown up in the relationship? Surely it’s not ESD.

And you know this.... how?

You have NO IDEA about what goes on with Dave's responsibilities OFF THE AIR, despite what he says on the air.

None of us do, so it's pointless to speculate or judge.

[~Katja~]

well I disagree. Just cause a pregnancy was not planned in the first place and seems to be in too close time frame to the first I cannot say that it is a mistake for the two of them to have and raise children.
Just cause Dave says things on the air that seem rather crazy like that the kids are out of control and are throwing liquids at each other (think about it... REALLY????) does not mean that the situation is out of control or hopeless.
Millions of families have started on less wealth and even less fortunate circumstances and they have grown in to happy and healthy families with wonderful children.
Casey and Dave have family, friends and a lot of moral support from fans even, not to forget what an incredible child Julianna has grown into just one year... she is funny, adorable and has an amazing charm about her... it does not come from nowhere... it's great parenting and lots of love and creativity surrounding her.
These children are happy and lucky!

Do the first days of new parenthood seem exhausting and crazy and overwhelming? Sure, but no less to a wealthy family with nannies and nurses to spare by their side...
it's life... and it's the part of parenthood that is quickly forgotten when they reach their little milestones each and all the sleepless nights and overwhelming moments get taken over by incredible pride... the pride over our children and what they accomplish and that they accomplish it because of us...

Casey deserves the rest she is hopefully taking...(and no Fez, she is not being lazy, every woman handles childbirth different and most of all heals differently) Dave can manage for a few hours here and there... after all it's what Casey does every day and will be doing every day for the future... it can only make Dave appreciate more how hard a job it is to be a mom and take care of children.

I wish both of them the best. Being a parent is a great thing and it gives much meaning to your life... it's never a bad or wrong decision.

[burrben]

what about that fat piece of shit rueben? oh wait, he was up against that queen clay. nm

[drjoek]

And you know this.... how?

You have NO IDEA about what goes on with Dave's responsibilities OFF THE AIR, despite what he says on the air.

None of us do, so it's pointless to speculate or judge.


SHUT DOWN THE SITE!!!

We cant speculate about the about the backstory of the people on our favorite show based on what we hear on the air? No one is doing anything but commenting on this stuff we hear. he makes himself fair game by presenting a character that we can assess. If he doesnt expect to be anylized dont make his personal life public

[~Katja~]

SHUT DOWN THE SITE!!!

We cant speculate about the about the backstory of the people on our favorite show based on what we hear on the air? No one is doing anything but commenting on this stuff we hear. he makes himself fair game by presenting a character that we can assess. If he doesnt expect to be anylized dont make his personal life public

I don't know, but you and I... we post on the same site and have experience in raising children... you can take the male point of view and I will represent the female one... a situation seems always different for a father than it does for a mother... but just based on the Our Kids thread alone... you have to admit that you have only seen happy pictures and short movies of the kid and both parents and grandparents involved in their life...
a HAPPY HEALTHY child... wonderful posts by Casey on how proud and happy she is... I just never saw the slightest complaint about being a parent.

You can speculate all you want but being that we both post here we KNOW more back story that is not on air related to judge otherwise.

[#1FanofESD]

American Idol- My ten year old daughter watched this season of American Idol, so by extension I saw much more of this program than I wanted. My daughter wanted the “normal looking boy” to win because he is “kind of cute.” She called in a few times to cast her vote and most of her friends claimed to the same thing. In my opinion the kid who won, Kris Allen, did not have the most talent nor was he a better singer, he was simply more palatable to the voting block than Adam Lambert. So when Fez claimed today that Lambert didn’t win because of “how he looked and who he was, not because he was a better singer.” I must agree with him. So Fez was dead on.



People can vote for whatever reason then want.

That's it. The ass pirate lost. Move on.

And Fez doesn't know music or like music which he has admitted on 1239 occasions so why anyone would take his opinion on who is a better singer is just you buying into the idea that he's fighting for the 'underdog' so you are backing him.

And why is Fez so interested in backing Gaybert? Because he's a quiff. If the kid came out tomorrow and said he doesn't like blowing guys Fez would be done with him ASAP.

The transparency of Fez on this issue is ridiculous.

[Furtherman]

SHUT DOWN THE SITE!!!

We cant speculate about the about the backstory of the people on our favorite show based on what we hear on the air? No one is doing anything but commenting on this stuff we hear. he makes himself fair game by presenting a character that we can assess. If he doesnt expect to be anylized dont make his personal life public

I enjoy the show for it's entertainment value - I'm not going to analyze and judge someone's life off the show based on what they say on the air. That's just shit-stirring for the sake of shit-stirring.

[paulisded]

I could go to another room, but I sit with the family after dinner and do computer work while they watch TV, it lets me spend time with the family and still get some work done. The truth of the matter is I like sitting with them and watching the kids dance and sing during the show, it makes me think about the good times I had as a child.

Fair enough.

My opinion was that Fez was right today about Dave & his situation. I made no proclamations regarding Dave and his right to kids or about Casey and the computer. What I did was point out that Fez was being a good friend to Dave by telling him to take a hard look at the situation.

But you have speculated and stated opinions on Dave's parenting skills...the "clearly it's not ESD" line that was quoted above is one such line. I don't know how anybody can listen to Dave's calls and not see that most of it is facetious. Even if it isn't, you really can't make these types of judgments just based on the tiny bits of the personal life aired on the show.

[Turtle]

People can vote for whatever reason then want.

That's it. The ass pirate lost. Move on.

And Fez doesn't know music or like music which he has admitted on 1239 occasions so why anyone would take his opinion on who is a better singer is just you buying into the idea that he's fighting for the 'underdog' so you are backing him.

And why is Fez so interested in backing Gaybert? Because he's a quiff. If the kid came out tomorrow and said he doesn't like blowing guys Fez would be done with him ASAP.

The transparency of Fez on this issue is ridiculous.

I’m buying into the idea that in my opinion Lambert was a better singer and performer.

I’m buying into the idea that one of my kids liked the “normal looking boy.”

I’m buying into the idea that you may struggle with reading comprehension.

[drjoek]

I don't know, but you and I... we post on the same side and have experience in raising children... you can take the male point of view and I will represent the female one... a situation seems always different for a father than it does for a mother... but just based on the Our Kids thread alone... you have to admit that you have only seen happy pictures and short movies of the kid and both parents and grandparents involved in their life...
a HAPPY HEALTHY child... wonderful posts by Casey on how proud and happy she is... I just never saw the slightest complaint about being a parent.

You can speculate all you want but being that we both post here we KNOW more back story that is not on air related to judge otherwise.

Let me clarify

My comments above were based of Furtherman supposition that we cant speculate on whats going on in ESD life. I think if he puts himself out there he has to expect that people will form an opinion about his life and his circumstances. If he didnt put it out there (see Ronnie B and his persnal life of which we know very little) we would not speculate. But I think he is fair game.

As far as ESD and Casey My opinion has ALWAYS been that they are doing a great job Julianna appears to be a living doll Look at Casey's Avatar. I wish them NOTHING BUT luck and success with the kids. My two kids were close in age and I can fully appreciate how difficult it is and wish them nothing but strength.

Again I wish them no difficulties and DID NOT pass judgement. I just reserve the right of those here to state there feelings based on what they hear. If someone choses to pass judgement based on what they hear on a radio show thats on them

[HBox]

SHUT DOWN THE SITE!!!

We cant speculate about the about the backstory of the people on our favorite show based on what we hear on the air? No one is doing anything but commenting on this stuff we hear. he makes himself fair game by presenting a character that we can assess. If he doesnt expect to be anylized dont make his personal life public

Carneys and rubes. Carneys and rubes.

[Turtle]

Fair enough.



But you have speculated and stated opinions on Dave's parenting skills...the "clearly it's not ESD" line that was quoted above is one such line. I don't know how anybody can listen to Dave's calls and not see that most of it is facetious. Even if it isn't, you really can't make these types of judgments just based on the tiny bits of the personal life aired on the show.
I would base my opinion on the way Ron & Fez talk about Dave in off air situation.
-Drinking his own piss
-A problem with alcohol that Ron has attempted on several occasions to get Dave to address.
-The apparent desire to avoid being a reasonable adult with only one kid at home.

Again my point is that Fez did the right thing today.

[K.C.]

On the American Idol thing, I found it funny that Fez was saying there should be outrage over Adam Lambert because he it was a competition he "couldn't win" because of his beliefs, yet Fez was furious that Miss California came out and said that she didn't win Miss America because of her beliefs.

There's no consistency there at all.

[angrymissy]

I would base my opinion on the way Ron & Fez talk about Dave in off air situation.
-Drinking his own piss
-A problem with alcohol that Ron has attempted on several occasions to get Dave to address.
-The apparent desire to avoid being a reasonable adult with only one kid at home.

Again my point is that Fez did the right thing today.

Do you believe everything you hear on the radio?

[Turtle]

Do you believe everything you hear on the radio?

No. But Ron has brought the piss drinking up may times to Dave as well as the alcohol, I'm inclined to believe that.

[angrymissy]

No. But Ron has brought the piss drinking up may times to Dave as well as the alcohol, I'm inclined to believe that.

You think Dave goes home and downs a nice big glass of hot piss and a shot of Jamesons while ignoring his children?

He probably talks to Iris on the phone while ignoring Juliana.

Then Joe Poo comes over and they eat some poo.

[Turtle]

You think Dave goes home and downs a nice big glass of hot piss while ignoring his children?

Haha. No. But I do think he lacks good judgment at times.

[Hottub]

Once again I place the blame squarely on the bible belt. If the idea of the show is that "America" votes for the winner, looking different, or being different is not going to fly with them.
A little tolerance and acceptance goes a long way these days. Jesus would never have prejudged somebody because of something like that. Yet somehow his message has been so skewed, and the reverent people who choose to deliver and "interpret" his teachings seem to have missed that point entirely.

[drjoek]

No. But Ron has brought the piss drinking up may times to Dave as well as the alcohol, I'm inclined to believe that.

The piss drinking was a one time stunt on O&A(i think)
Ron is trying to get ESD to do the joke NOT be the joke. Thats the point of bringing it up.

[Hottub]

As for Dave, I didn't get to hear the entire piece, but I heard enough to know that it was East Side Dave, not necessarily Dad who was on the phone today.

Think about it.

[Turtle]

The piss drinking was a one time stunt on O&A(i think)
Ron is trying to get ESD to do the joke NOT be the joke. Thats the point of bringing it up.

If memory serves the piss drinking was at a bar on a dare. The news got back to Ron who was pitching Dave to the XM brass. Ron, as I recall was very irritated that he (Ron) was pushing Dave to the suits and that Dave was still playing with his own excrement after he had to be told to stop eating shit the week prior.

[Turtle]

As for Dave, I didn't get to hear the entire piece, but I heard enough to know that it was East Side Dave, not necessarily Dad who was on the phone today.

Think about it.

Less ESD on the air. More Dave MacDonald.

[angrymissy]

If memory serves the piss drinking was at a bar on a dare. The news got back to Ron who was pitching Dave to the XM brass. Ron, as I recall was very irritated that he (Ron) was pushing Dave to the suits and that Dave was still playing with his own excrement after he had to be told to stop eating shit the week prior.

Read what you just wrote.

Seriously.

[mikeyboy]

SHUT DOWN THE SITE!!!

We cant speculate about the about the backstory of the people on our favorite show based on what we hear on the air? No one is doing anything but commenting on this stuff we hear. he makes himself fair game by presenting a character that we can assess. If he doesnt expect to be analyzed dont make his personal life public

There's a difference between speculating and assuming you know the whole story of Dave and Casey as parents based on what you hear on the air. That's the problem. Too many people assume they know what is best for Dave & Casey. Just like too many people assume they know exactly what will "fix" Fez. It's weird. The show opens up aspects of the personal lives of the show members on the air and creates a certain familiarity with their audience. For that reason, people sometimes think they really know the people they hear on the air. It's rarely quite that simple though.

For what it's worth, I have seen Dave and Casey as parents, off air, far more than most people who flippantly label them as bad parents, and from what I've seen, they are very good and loving parents. It's going to be difficult, in a lot of different ways, to raise two children so close in age, but they have my full confidence that they will do it and do it well.

[Turtle]

Read what you just wrote.


ok

[angrymissy]

ok

Now tell me it doesn't read like a sitcom script.

[Turtle]

For what it's worth, I have seen Dave and Casey as parents, off air, far more than most people who flippantly label them as bad parents, and from what I've seen, they are very good and loving parents. It's going to be difficult, in a lot of different ways, to raise two children so close in age, but they have my full confidence that they will do it and do it well.

I don’t think that they are bad parent and I’m sure they love both kids very much. My point is that Fez was being a good friend to Dave today. A realistic look at the situation was what Fez brought forward.

[Turtle]

Now tell me it doesn't read like a sitcom script.

As The Piss Turns.

The Young And The Excrement.

[Furtherman]

My comments above were based of Furtherman supposition that we cant speculate on whats going on in ESD life.

Speculate all you want, but as we don't know the full story, as to just label them (not you drjoek - others who have) something is just being a dick.

[paulisded]

Haha. No. But I do think he lacks good judgment at times.

So a couple of dumb stunts on the air months ago makes him a bad parent at home?

[Turtle]

So a couple of dumb stunts on the air months ago makes him a bad parent at home?

Not what I said.

I never called him a bad parent.

I think Fez did a good thing today by not pulling his punches with his assessment of the situation.

[Hottub]

Less ESD on the air. More Dave MacDonald.

That would make for good radio? East Side Dave is over the top, larger than life. Think of wrestling.
It's a radio show! They entertain us. You can't base everything you feel is right or wrong with their lives by what you hear on the air.

[Turtle]

That would make for good radio? East Side Dave is over the top, larger than life. Think of wrestling.
It's a radio show! They entertain us. You can't base everything you feel is right or wrong with their lives by what you hear on the air.

I think Dave is great when he is having conversations with Ron & Fez about sports, music or popular culture. He often brings up valid points that channel the conversation in new directions.

The stunt boy/ idiot know it all/ active stupidity persona… is much less appealing to me.

[mikeyboy]

I don’t think that they are bad parent and I’m sure they love both kids very much. My point is that Fez was being a good friend to Dave today. A realistic look at the situation was what Fez brought forward.

I didn't see the point of it. I know it's a running joke that Dave & Casey will have a kid every year, in all honesty, I would be incredibly surprised if they had another child any time soon. I think they are very aware of what they've gotten themselves into with 2 children, and what they haven't been aware of, they will be aware of very soon. To paint them as two reckless kids who will be having kids willy nilly is pretty far from the truth. So fine. That's covered. i don't think they need a lecture on that because they already know.

So now they have two kids, and maybe they didn't plan it that way? People are going to lecture them on that? What's the point? Should they be convinced to put one or both up for adoption because some people do not approve? Of course not. They've made a series of actions and decisions, and because of those actions and decisions they have two children who they will love dearly, but will also make their lives difficult in some respect. What's the point in lecturing them if you think they shouldn't have these kids now?

[Contra]

Anyone who cries that much watching TV is a shoe in to be a good mother. Dave on the other hand...

I keed!

[Turtle]

I didn't see the point of it. I know it's a running joke that Dave & Casey will have a kid every year, in all honesty, I would be incredibly surprised if they had another child any time soon. I think they are very aware of what they've gotten themselves into with 2 children, and what they haven't been aware of, they will be aware of very soon. To paint them as two reckless kids who will be having kids willy nilly is pretty far from the truth. So fine. That's covered. i don't think they need a lecture on that because they already know.

So now they have two kids, and maybe they didn't plan it that way? People are going to lecture them on that? What's the point? Should they be convinced to put one or both up for adoption because some people do not approve? Of course not. They've made a series of actions and decisions, and because of those actions and decisions they have two children who they will love dearly, but will also make their lives difficult in some respect. What's the point in lecturing them if you think they shouldn't have these kids now?

Are you telling me that Fez was off base on this one!?!?

[angrymissy]

Are you telling me that Fez was off base on this one!?!?

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q248/katiek68/carny-1.jpg

[hatonmyhead]

I don't get Fez making comments about Casey being in bed with Dave taking care of the kids. She just had a baby and is probably still in pain. Dave is there to help her out. Sure, he's complaining about it but that doesn't mean he doesn't want to do it. I'm sure Dave's a great father.

[drjoek]

I think Dave is great when he is having conversations with Ron & Fez about sports, music or popular culture. He often brings up valid points that channel the conversation in new directions.

The stunt boy/ idiot know it all/ active stupidity persona… is much less appealing to me.

I think the same holds true for Ron and thats why hes trying to get him away from it.
And Dave doesnt know shit about sports
:laugh:

[Furtherman]

Anyone who cries that much watching TV is a shoe in to be a good mother. Dave on the other hand...

I keed!

There was an old woman,
Who lived in a shoe;
She had so many children,
She didn't know what to do.
She gave them some broth,
Without any bread;
She whipped them all soundly,
And sent them to bed.


OH THE HORROR! SHE'S A TERRIBLE MOTHER!!!

[Sloppy2nds]

Adam was much much better.

[Turtle]

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q248/katiek68/carny-1.jpg

Do you know of a midway I can stroll down?

[mikeyboy]

Are you telling me that Fez was off base on this one!?!?

Yes

[Turtle]

Yes

It’s Booooard Gossip. What Admin of Ron Fez . Net claimed the Fez Whatley is way off base?

[hatonmyhead]

Fez was being a dick today. A talkative dick, though.

[Jeffdc5]

Fez took that way too hard its a stupid show. The gays only seem to care about what's good for them so he deserved to win because he's gay? And that shit with miss california how are you going to get mad at a beauty queen for giving an honest answer. Its not like she's gathering a linch mob to go round up and kill gays.

[mikeyboy]

It’s Booooard Gossip. What Admin of Ron Fez . Net claimed the Fez Whatley is way off base?

I figure that's where you were going with that.

[The Happening]

If you truly get this show, how can anyone not understand the amount of "work" that's going on? "It's still real to me dammit!" ..... On to Fez's/the usual people's angle that Lambert didn't win because he was different/an ass pirate: Just like their were SOME people who voted against Lambert because he is a pole smoker. Their were some people who DID vote for Lambert just because he played the ass trumpet(Like Fez did). Somehow both sides don't see that they are doing the exact same thing. In the end, most people probably just voted for the person whom them felt was the best singer.

[angrymissy]

Do you know of a midway I can stroll down?

http://www.pygment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/pier31.jpg

[hatonmyhead]

Fez took that way too hard its a stupid show. The gays only seem to care about what's good for them so he deserved to win because he's gay? And that shit with miss california how are you going to get mad at a beauty queen for giving an honest answer. Its not like she's gathering a linch mob to go round up and kill gays.

Fez is reminding me of Al Sharpton automatically playing the race card except it's the gay card. If what's his face was going lose American Idol because he was gay, he wouldn't have gotten the votes to get this far in the first place. I can't believe I'm talking about American Idol.

[drjoek]

Fez was being a dick today. A talkative dick, though.



I'm going out on a limb here BUT Ron has been intimating that he is waiting for Fez to go off on ESD. The whole Pepper get in here this is it bit the last couple weeks. They said Fezs life coach is there to help him work on his career work. Maybe going off on Dave and Casey is Fez trying to do this reclaim his show.
Just a theory and yes that's me speculating about the backstory.

[mikeyboy]

On another note, a lot of people are taking Fez's rant about Dave and Casey as 100% truth when it just as easily could have been Fez taking an opposing viewpoint for entertainment purposes. I don't have any first hand knowledge either way, but I thought Fez was going pretty over the top with some of the stuff he was saying.

[Death Metal Moe]

Fez only said what he said today because he cares about ESD and Casey and thought they took on way too much at this point in their life. I don't question Fez's motives at all, but it wasn't the right time to go over it.

As Ron said, he didn't disagree with anything Fez said but Ron knew now is not the time to voice it, just time to support Dave and Casey.

And really, we're talking about ONE afternoon on the 1st day back to their house with a brand new baby. It's a brand new situation and Casey was very tired from birthing a child. When she's stronger and both of them are there to help each other, I'm sure things will get better.

No one is going to say it's going to get "easy" but it will get more familiar and easier to deal with.

[Turtle]

http://www.pygment.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/pier31.jpg

Umm, that’s more of a long walk down a short…

[Death Metal Moe]

Oh, as for the other discussion in this thread.

Fuck American Idol. Fuck it until it's dead then fuck the dead carcass until there's not an inch of it you can lube up and fuck. It's a retarded show and how long do most of these kids REALLY have a career after the show is done? Not many.

Fuck it.

[Turtle]

Oh, as for the other discussion in this thread.

Fuck American Idol. Fuck it until it's dead then fuck the dead carcass until there's not an inch of it you can lube up and fuck. It's a retarded show and how long do most of these kids REALLY have a career after the show is done? Not many.

Fuck it.

:ohmy:

[Doogie]

How about everyone mind their own business and shut the fuck up?? I kind of like that defense. A lot of finger pointing on this site. And I am 100% positive that everyone on here does not live in the perfect household. And because your household is not 100% you feel you have the need, and feel the right to cast judgement on others when you dont even know the full truth.

So how about we all just back off Dave and Casey and let them raise their family. How about we get away from referncing the show for one day and not feeling the need to post every little mind-numbing nauseu that comes to your mind in an attempt to try and garner the attention of the hosts of the show. Or to try and bring some sort of wrath upon yourself and then take the whole "but I am just repeating what I heard on the show" defense. Enough. Just mind your own business and shut the fuck up already.

[Death Metal Moe]

:ohmy:

Sorry Turtle, no disrespect to your daughter. A young child is the demo I expect to like this kind of show. The fact that grown people watch this drivel is just sad.

[drjoek]

How about everyone mind their own business and shut the fuck up?? I kind of like that defense. A lot of finger pointing on this site. And I am 100% positive that everyone on here does not live in the perfect household. And because your household is not 100% you feel you have the need, and feel the right to cast judgement on others when you dont even know the full truth.

So how about we all just back off Dave and Casey and let them raise their family. How about we get away from referncing the show for one day and not feeling the need to post every little mind-numbing nauseu that comes to your mind in an attempt to try and garner the attention of the hosts of the show. Or to try and bring some sort of wrath upon yourself and then take the whole "but I am just repeating what I heard on the show" defense. Enough. Just mind your own business and shut the fuck up already.



I already said to shut down the site 2 pages ago.

[HBox]

I already said to shut down the site 2 pages ago.

While this site does allow for douchebags to shit all over a new family because of an on-air bit during a particularly difficult moment for them, there's much more to the site.

[Death Metal Moe]

How about everyone mind their own business and shut the fuck up?? I kind of like that defense. A lot of finger pointing on this site. And I am 100% positive that everyone on here does not live in the perfect household. And because your household is not 100% you feel you have the need, and feel the right to cast judgement on others when you dont even know the full truth.

So how about we all just back off Dave and Casey and let them raise their family. How about we get away from referncing the show for one day and not feeling the need to post every little mind-numbing nauseu that comes to your mind in an attempt to try and garner the attention of the hosts of the show. Or to try and bring some sort of wrath upon yourself and then take the whole "but I am just repeating what I heard on the show" defense. Enough. Just mind your own business and shut the fuck up already.

I agree with most of what you said, but to be honest, speculation and discussion is what this message board is about. So even though we shouldn't take things so seriously and speculate on people's intentions, we are going to talk about things discussed on the air. And this was on the air.

[Jeffdc5]

Fez what right birth control is the job of both people involved. Ronnie B said it the first child is still a baby can't even ealk yet now you add another baby in less than one year? It's not like the money is falling from the heavens especially the way radio is going these days. ESD better but the jamasons down on the weekends and get a grocery clerk job or something.

[Hottub]

Fez what right birth control is the job of both people involved. Ronnie B said it the first child is still a baby can't even ealk yet now you add another baby in less than one year? It's not like the money is falling from the heavens especially the way radio is going these days. ESD better but the jamasons down on the weekends and get a grocery clerk job or something.

It's a radio show! They entertain us. You can't base everything you feel is right or wrong with their lives by what you hear on the air.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

[Doogie]

I agree with most of what you said, but to be honest, speculation and discussion is what this message board is about. So even though we shouldn't take things so seriously and speculate on people's intentions, we are going to talk about things discussed on the air. And this was on the air.

Ahhhhh...but you missed the part I put in bold. Just because people act a certain way on air DOES NOT mean it transcribes to real life. 99% of the people dont know what Dave is like with his children and only speculate because of how he is on the air. And lets face it...he is a great on-air personality.

If we go by how people are on-air, on TV, etc does that mean Seth McFarlane should be allowed to have a family and children?? That guy comes up with some sick shit, hilarious...yes, but still twisted. And you can make numerous comparisons to other personalities on radio, TV, movies, and so forth. But just because they have a persona on-air does not mean it translates off air. And that is the part that pisses me off...people think that Dave is a terrible father with having zero evidence to back it up. They just know a persona on air.

I am safe in saying that Dave is a wonderful father and him and Casey will do a great job raising those children. That is the point I was trying to make.

If we believed everything we heard on Air then the Democrats are to blame for everything (Rush/Hannity rants), Howard invented everything, and Martians invaded New Jersey in 1938...

[mikeyboy]

does that mean Seth McFarlane should be allowed to have a family and children??

No.

[brettmojo]

If we go by how people are on-air, on TV, etc does that mean Seth McFarlane should be allowed to have a family and children??

No.
Seth McFarlane is an alien. He's advocating the internet site HULU to us in a fiendish attempt to turn our brains into Goooo Goooo matter for the means of ingestion.

This is how he's been presented through popular media so it must be pretty true to life.

[Doogie]

No.

::: psst::: it wasnt meant to be answered...

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Fez is reminding me of Al Sharpton automatically playing the race card except it's the gay card. If what's his face was going lose American Idol because he was gay, he wouldn't have gotten the votes to get this far in the first place. I can't believe I'm talking about American Idol.


You mean this
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1949/gaycard030.jpg

I hear they're impossible to counter.:lol:

[vitaminB]

I haven't read any of the posts in this thread and this is my first post, two things which I understand will not lend any sort of credence to my opinion; however, Fezzy could not have been any more wrong on this. Two gay guys have finished second on American Idol. You're telling me there's some national conspiracy to keep gays from winning? How could that be when no one but gays and young girls even watch that show?

Sorry if every point I've made was made earlier.

[mikeyboy]

::: psst::: it wasnt meant to be answered...

I feel strongly that Seth McFarlane shouldn't be allowed to breed.

LISTEN TO MY OPINION!!!!!

[Death Metal Moe]

I feel strongly that Seth McFarlane shouldn't be allowed to breed.

LISTEN TO MY OPINION!!!!!

It's like you're SHOUTING at GVAC to answer you.:surrender:

[Hottub]

I feel strongly that Seth McFarlane shouldn't be allowed to breed.

LISTEN TO MY OPINION!!!!!

Oh. Look everybody. Here comes Mikey with his O-pinion.

[Gvac]

Fez is the best friend that Dave has. I say that because Fez had the courage to tell Dave the truth. He didn’t sugar coat it, he didn’t try and make Dave feel better about his situation, instead, Fez came out like a true friend and threw the ice cold water of reality in Dave’s face. Wake up and smell the baby diapers, look at the cost of formula, hear the chaos that is two kids under 12 months of age in your house. With help and support I hope that these two kids grow up to happy healthy adults and if they do, thank Fez because he is catalyst that will have caused significant change in that home.

Unfortunately I was unable to listen to the show today. I'm contemplating quitting my job because of this but that's beside the point.

What exactly did Fez say?

Can someone link me to an audio clip or at least provide a brief, concise summary of what he said?

[vitaminB]

Unfortunately I was unable to listen to the show today. I'm contemplating quitting my job because of this but that's beside the point.

What exactly did Fez say?

Can someone link me to an audio clip or at least provide a brief, concise summary of what he said?

His basic argument was that Adam Lambert never had a chance to win, that America would not vote for a gay winner. Later he praised Adam Lambert, who never admitted being gay, for living his life and not trying to hide anything cause he was spotted at at an outback with a dude.

[brettmojo]

His basic argument was that Adam Lambert never had a chance to win, that America would not vote for a gay winner. Later he praised Adam Lambert, who never admitted being gay, for living his life and not trying to hide anything cause he was spotted at at an outback with a dude.
http://dailysnoop.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/adam-lambert-gay-4.jpg

How can you tell they're at an Outback?

[hammersavage]

http://dailysnoop.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/adam-lambert-gay-4.jpg

How can you tell they're at an Outback?

The Bloomin' Onion of course

[disneyspy]

I have no excuse.

And I thought the mikeyboy defense was "I didn't see the adam's apple".

i thought the mikeyboy defense was " what happens in lost gayness,stays in lost gayness"

[fezfez]

Wow, this thread has something for everyone. Babies, piss drinking and American Idol.

Dave sounded completely frazzled when we talked to him today, like he was going out of his mind. My point was, ESD doesn't use birth control. So, someone in the family may want to put their foot down before there's a third McDonald child. And that's only going by the things Dave has said about his situation.

[Death Metal Moe]

Wow, this thread has something for everyone. Babies, piss drinking and American Idol.

Dave sounded completely frazzled when we talked to him today, like he was going out of his mind. My point was, ESD doesn't use birth control. So, someone in the family may want to put their foot down before there's a third McDonald child. And that's only going by the things Dave has said about his situation.

SCHOOL 'EM FEZ FEZ! Then smash that fuckin' Beanie Cup on their heads, take the belt and walk up that ramp a CHAMPION!

[Hottub]

Wow, this thread has something for everyone. Babies, piss drinking and American Idol.

Dave sounded completely frazzled when we talked to him today, like he was going out of his mind. My point was, ESD doesn't use birth control. So, someone in the family may want to put their foot down before there's a third McDonald child. And that's only going by the things Dave has said about his situation.

OK. You said your piece. That was you stepping up as a friend. Ultimately it is their decision.

[Melk]

Adam was probably voted off of American Idol because Simon overpraised him. Simon's favorite never wins (gay or not)

I have heard the references Fez made about Casey and Dave several times before on the air. But I'm sure it is a work. Because, Dave would never put drinking or Guitar Hero above his kids and wife. And I am sure Casey is an attentive parent who doesn't spend too many hours on PalTalk. These are jokes... they are just words said with no relationship to the reality of the situation.

Only fezfez's on-air problems are real....

[paulisded]

And I am sure Casey is an attentive parent who doesn't spend too many hours on PalTalk.

Fez didn't say anything about Casey being on paltalk...that was a dumb caller.

[#1FanofESD]

I’m buying into the idea that in my opinion Lambert was a better singer and performer.

I’m buying into the idea that one of my kids liked the “normal looking boy.”

I’m buying into the idea that you may struggle with reading comprehension.

Hey everybody...

This guys opinion is more important than anyone elses.

And his kid speaks for all the kids in this country on what they think is 'normal' looking.

And apparently my reading skills suck, but my reading between the lines skills are excellent.

:king:

[#1FanofESD]

SCHOOL 'EM FEZ FEZ! Then smash that fuckin' Beanie Cup on their heads, take the belt and walk up that ramp a CHAMPION!

Says captain of the 3rd rate schmizbo team, lol.

:king:

[Gvac]

OK. You said your piece.

Are you telling Fez he can't speak further on the subject and explain what he said on the air?

I just don't understand your post.

[Hottub]

Says captain of the 3rd rate schmizbo team, lol.

:king:

Actually, that's me. Moe is riding the pine.

[drjoek]

Actually, that's me. Moe is riding the pine.

Third rate Schmizzbo is losing the Creep Tournament I may be looking at a week with an awful avatar if Tub doesnt get out the vote!!

[Hottub]

Are you telling Fez he can't speak further on the subject and explain what he said on the air?

I just don't understand your post.

:wallbash:

[#1FanofESD]

Someone email me when Fez and Turtle take over the world and make this a better place to live.

They are the experts on moral standards this country has always needed.

One is telling people with a child about how to be a parent after crying on the radio for four years which has something to do with the parental guideance he received while growing up.

The other one thinks his opinion and his kids views are that of everyone who lives in this country that share something similar to them while he praises the guy who is telling people with a child about how to be a parent after crying on the radio for four years which has something to do with the parental guideance he received while growing up.

If these two ever kissed I bet something awesome would happen, lol.

[#1FanofESD]

Actually, that's me. Moe is riding the pine.

No dude. You're on the ship, but he's the captain for sure.

[Gvac]

:wallbash:

Seriously.

[Hottub]

Don't take quotes out of context. Listen to the show, then get back to me.
He said his piece On The Air. He was offering advice.
If he would like to take it further here, he is more than welcome to. Here on ronFEZ.net.

[Gvac]

Don't take quotes out of context. Listen to the show, then get back to me.
He said his piece On The Air. He was offering advice.
If he would like to take it further here, he is more than welcome to. Here on ronFEZ.net.

I'm not taking anything out of context.

You quoted Fez and said "You said your peace."

Just sounded very odd to me.

[ShowerBench]

Redheaded lunatics have been having and raising Irish twins since time immemorial. The kids are alright.

Aunts-in-law have been offering unsolicited advice and criticism forever, too (including in public on Thanksgiving), so I don't see much wrong with what Fez said, either.

You have to admit, screaming, "What has Casey done lately?" while she's still in the hospital after giving birth is pretty funny.

[Melk]

You have to admit, screaming, "What has Casey done lately?" while she's still in the hospital after giving birth is pretty funny.
Thank you! Someone finally gets the joke!

The idea of Dave having to deal with the two kids while Casey is "medicating herself away from the reality of the situation*" is pretty funny.

* - Recovering from giving birth.

Fez didn't say anything about Casey being on paltalk...that was a dumb caller.
But Ron and Fez did mention that she shirked her responsibility to get a job to supplement Dave's income by getting pregnant again. And Ron has accused Dave and Casey of treating Juliana like a doll.

Incidentally, when is a baby supposed to begin walking and talking?

[Turtle]

Someone email me when Fez and Turtle take over the world and make this a better place to live.

They are the experts on moral standards this country has always needed.

One is telling people with a child about how to be a parent after crying on the radio for four years which has something to do with the parental guideance he received while growing up.

The other one thinks his opinion and his kids views are that of everyone who lives in this country that share something similar to them while he praises the guy who is telling people with a child about how to be a parent after crying on the radio for four years which has something to do with the parental guideance he received while growing up.

If these two ever kissed I bet something awesome would happen, lol.

You are without a doubt the biggest idiot in the world.

[Death Metal Moe]

You are without a doubt the biggest idiot in the world.

You learn quick.

[~Katja~]

Incidentally, when is a baby supposed to begin walking and talking?

between 10 months and 18 months... some don't walk until 24 months

Speech develops differently for all children.

Julianna is more than right on cue with her development, don't you worry

[The Happening]

Are you telling Fez he can't speak further on the subject and explain what he said on the air?

I just don't understand your post. Come on man, that's not what he said. It was simply meant as an "ok, we recognize your point of view" statement. No big deal.

[The Happening]

I’m buying into the idea that in my opinion Lambert was a better singer and performer.

I’m buying into the idea that one of my kids liked the “normal looking boy.”
So that's a grand total of one person for whom you've based your "normal looking guy" voting conspiracy on. Awesome!My 10 year old nephew had some very intersting opinions on AIDS the other day. According to him, simply by eating carrots you become immune to the virus. No more condoms for me!

[TripleSkeet]

American Idol- My ten year old daughter watched this season of American Idol, so by extension I saw much more of this program than I wanted. My daughter wanted the “normal looking boy” to win because he is “kind of cute.” She called in a few times to cast her vote and most of her friends claimed to the same thing. In my opinion the kid who won, Kris Allen, did not have the most talent nor was he a better singer, he was simply more palatable to the voting block than Adam Lambert. So when Fez claimed today that Lambert didn’t win because of “how he looked and who he was, not because he was a better singer.” I must agree with him. So Fez was dead on.





The MacDonald Baby Pandemic- Fez is the best friend that Dave has. I say that because Fez had the courage to tell Dave the truth. He didn’t sugar coat it, he didn’t try and make Dave feel better about his situation, instead, Fez came out like a true friend and threw the ice cold water of reality in Dave’s face. Wake up and smell the baby diapers, look at the cost of formula, hear the chaos that is two kids under 12 months of age in your house. With help and support I hope that these two kids grow up to happy healthy adults and if they do, thank Fez because he is catalyst that will have caused significant change in that home.

Ok,
A) Fez was wrong. And you just proved it. Fez's whole opinion on American Idol was people didnt vote for that douchebag because he was GAY. He even implied that parents were forcing their kids to vote against him because he was a faggot. Now you yourself just said your kid voted what SHE wanted, not you, and it was because he was a weirdo (something Ive heard from other people that watch that horseshit, Ive never even seen the guy) not because he was gay. So Fez was wrong.

Personally, Im over the whole whining about gay rights act Fez has. But I cant complain because Ron turns it into pure gold. I nearly shit myself when he said that kid had an album coming out called Screamy McCockBreath Rides Again.

B) Dude, its really in bad taste to say someone you dont really know cant provide for his/her kids. Youre going by a radio persona....and even if youre not, its still in bad taste. Raising two young kids is tough, but not impossible. My two are just about the same as Daves and its some of the hardest shit Ive ever had to do. But as a parent it doesnt even seem like a sacrifice. And the last thing you want to hear is some nobody telling you you arent responsible enough to raise children. I remember a time when it was actually in style to mind your own fucking business.

[Recyclerz]

If we believed everything we heard on Air then the Democrats are to blame for everything (Rush/Hannity rants), Howard invented everything, and Martians invaded New Jersey in 1938...

You've been to Jersey, dude. You know that bit is true.

Some additional unsolicited advice for Fezfez: Your secret belongs to you and it is yours to share or withhold as you see fit. But in my humble opinion, if you are determined to perceive that every time that someone doesn't get what they want or deserve based on their (real or assumed) sexual orientation is a legitimate excuse to separate yourself from the herd and not integrate the various parts of your persona into a whole you are just going to drive yourself crazy. (Or, if that ship has sailed, crazier. :wink: )

Brother, you should realize that you are living through a civil rights revolution. Six states have marriage equality as the law within their borders. New York, your adopted home, is less than a handful of votes in the state Senate from doing the same. Others are close. As long as you go easy on the Partycake ice cream you will live to see it as the law of the whole country. And on the personal level, you will have the support of most (& maybe all)of your real family and the complete support of your work family and your virtual family of listeners (well, maybe not Leeder) for whatever your secret may be. That is a lot of acceptance, my friend, more than most people on this planet ever get. So I suggest you stop finding things to make yourself miserable, get out of your own way and just be the Fez that we all love.

I'll get off the soapbox now.

[JDE]

Finally hearing all this Fez stuff now on the repeat, attacking Dave and making fun of him, totally okay, taking shots at Casey, whether they are comedic, or you really are someone who despises all women, not cool.

I wonder, when you have your breakdowns on the air, and all the people who listen to your show, some who know you, most who don't, but almost all these listeners care how you are feeling, and just want you to be okay. I think you know all of this, and I would hope it makes you feel good that so many people care about you.


So for you to make jokes about Casey staying in bed, it really shows something ugly inside of you, maybe you told Dave beforehand hey, I am going to really give it to you, and even Casey, if so, okay, if not, you have more issues than whether some guy won a popularity contest on a bad tv show.

I think each of us listeners know you do have these issues anyway, but personally, I would hope you can take your shit out on someone, other than a woman who just had a kid 3 days ago, when there are so many other people you could get some venom out on.


Now I hear Ronnie saying, you were tough, and you saying what you said was an absolute shoot, well, then Fez, you need to look in the mirror, and maybe next time you want to do a shoot, do it to yourself, and help yourself, rather than anyone else.


Still a fan, but I have to say, you lost some sympathy from one fan the next time you implode on the air.


See Ron gets it, yes keep it to yourself, better yet talk to Dave off the air, be a real friend, not oh lets do a shoot, and not only make fun of a frazzled Dave, but taking shots at his wife.


Wow the more I listen to this, the more Fez is sounding like such a douche.


Okay that is my take as I am still listening to the repeat, I am sure many people will not agree with what I said, but oh well.



Fez, I wish you the happiness you do not think you deserve one day, love yourself, and accept yourself, and you will find it much easier to do that with others.


Best of luck to Dave, Casey, and yes to you too Fez.



Jason

[sleepyearl]

would rather hear confused crying fez, rather than bullish soapbox fez. I used to enjoy Fez, and her catty moments, but lately its just cu*ty moments. The world isnt fair, some people get fucked, thats it. Fez has lost all my support by becoming a true fucker.



I hope Fez gives more advice on family....expert that he is.

[TeamBennington]

Sorry to all of the fez apologists here, but he was being an absolute douchebag today. How the fuck can fez judge anybody? He's been a quivering mess for the last 2 years, how does he have the balls to criticize anyone's personal life?

It's amazing that a guy who has had the unending support of everyone around him, throughout panic attacks, crying fits, sexuality issues, and borderline insanity, could then turn around and tell a co-workers wife that she's being a bad parent. It's ridiculous.

Interesting how the host who is a father went out of his way to be supportive, and the host who isn't went out of his way to say that dave and casey are irresponsible. Fez, if you really cared about Dave, maybe you should have voiced these opinions, off the air, about 7 months ago....not on the air, two days after Stan the Man was born.

[EddieMoscone]

You guys are all fucking nuts. I know we all feel like we know Ron, Fez, Dave and Tanley personally because we listen to them on a daily basis, but it reality most of us here don't know shit about their real world life.

[Slumbag]

Thank you! Someone finally gets the joke!

The idea of Dave having to deal with the two kids while Casey is "medicating herself away from the reality of the situation*" is pretty funny.

* - Recovering from giving birth.

The only thing funnier than that is when Dave scolds Julianna when he's on the phone with Ron and Fez.

For some reason, hearing Dave go "You talk like that to Ron and Fez", to a one year old is the most hysterical thing ever.

[TjM]

Oh, as for the other discussion in this thread.

Fuck American Idol. Fuck it until it's dead then fuck the dead carcass until there's not an inch of it you can lube up and fuck. It's a retarded show and how long do most of these kids REALLY have a career after the show is done? Not many.

Fuck it.

:clap::clap:

Moe for Mod!!

[TjM]

between 10 months and 18 months... some don't walk until 24 months

Speech develops differently for all children.

Julianna is more than right on cue with her development, don't you worry

That happens. My wife took longer to talk when she was a child and turned out fine.

[~Katja~]

That happens. My wife took longer to talk when she was a child and turned out fine.

yeah it really irks me when people who have no kids and don't know anything about child development make comments like this and believe them too... just based on a joke that Ronnie made on air... they are the people that probably believe that Dave's kids were flinging liquids at each other yesterday... just cause they heard it on the radio ... ugh

if you have no experience and don't know what is true... at least google it before you make yourself look like a clueless asshole and comment on someone's kids

[Turtle]

B) Dude, its really in bad taste to say someone you dont really know cant provide for his/her kids. Youre going by a radio persona....and even if youre not, its still in bad taste. Raising two young kids is tough, but not impossible. My two are just about the same as Daves and its some of the hardest shit Ive ever had to do. But as a parent it doesnt even seem like a sacrifice. And the last thing you want to hear is some nobody telling you you arent responsible enough to raise children. I remember a time when it was actually in style to mind your own fucking business.

Please show me the post where I claimed that they are bad parents and that they can’t provide for those two kids. Or that they don't love & care about the kids.

I know that raising kids is tough, I have three, and (10, 7 & 3) it is often extremely difficult.

My point on this has been that Fez was being a good friend; he was taking a realistic look at the current situation and the need for things to change.

[ADF]

Wow, this thread has something for everyone. Babies, piss drinking and American Idol.

Dave sounded completely frazzled when we talked to him today, like he was going out of his mind. My point was, ESD doesn't use birth control. So, someone in the family may want to put their foot down before there's a third McDonald child. And that's only going by the things Dave has said about his situation.

If I had two kids in a short span of time and wasn't making a lot of money, I would put strong consideration into getting the 'ole snippy snip.

I also know that Casey and Dave are great people and their kids are extremely lucky to have two parents who are funny, bright, and who will do anything for them.

[~Katja~]

My point on this has been that Fez was being a good friend; he was taking a realistic look at the current situation and the need for things to change.

there is a difference in being a good friend and being an honest friend.

A good friend most likely will support them morally and help out whenever s/he sees help is needed...
This does not mean that Fez can't do both and probably does... your comments were based on what you heard on air... and that was not being a good friend. (even if it was just for the sake of radio)

[drjoek]

That happens. My wife took longer to talk when she was a child and turned out fine.



When did we start worrying about women NOT talking too much?

:tongue:

[jessicaduh]

this thread makes my head hurt.

[Hottub]

this thread makes my head hurt.

It gave Missy the trots.

[jessicaduh]

It gave Missy the trots.

i think i like missy.

[Caseyelan]

Regardless of anything said....

I wouldn't trade this lil guy for the world.

http://web1.twitpic.com/img/9590719-d322467f7f01847960d6df69890bf802.4a16f70c-scaled.jpg

I will keep my opinions on this to myself as much as I am completely sad and depressed over some of the things I heard.

[Furtherman]

Lil' East Side!!!

Awesome.

[Caseyelan]

For some reason my post got screwed up.

here's the pic that is oddly now missing....

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6969/staneastside.jpg

[jessicaduh]

he's beautiful.

[hammersavage]

7 lbs 3 oz., 19 inches of twisted Irish steel












I quoted my own facebook comment, so what?

[Contra]

For some reason my post got screwed up.

here's the pic that is oddly now missing....

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6969/staneastside.jpg

Awwww this picture makes it all ok.

[HBox]

For some reason my post got screwed up.

here's the pic that is oddly now missing....

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6969/staneastside.jpg

Not even a week old and lil Stanley already looks tired of this argument.

[Mikemantis]

today fezzie was whining today about bullshit the only thing he was right about was about dave, even then it really depends on on you look at that. The whole american idol, it was from votes. If you don't believe that then the who american idol is a sham. Who give a fuck that he didn't win. If he has the TALENT. Then he will succeed. He already has enough publicity from the show. So it is not like he is a no name and can't go anywhere. Today was annoying with Fez complaining.

Now Dave obviously put himself in that situation. eventually he will look back and enojoy those days.

[#1FanofESD]

You learn quick.

Says the captain of the 3rd rate schmizbo ship.

:king:

[Death Metal Moe]

Says the captain of the 3rd rate schmizbo ship.

:king:

Write it again, it might be funny that time.

[mikeyboy]

Says the captain of the 3rd rate schmizbo ship.

:king:

You know, you bring this on yourself. You post combatively in every thread you post in. Seriously, try being a normal person and don't try to be a dick every time you post.

[Death Metal Moe]

You know, you bring this on yourself. You post combatively in every thread you post in. Seriously, try being a normal person and don't try to be a dick every time you post.

Mikeyboy, a banning and SEVERAL other people telling this guy he's wrong and not welcome hasn't changed him.

It's over, he's chosen how he wants to be treated on this message board and I am more than happy to oblige.

[biozombie]

Fezzie's ranting got Fred From Brooklyn to call into the show today...

[Death Metal Moe]

Fezzie's ranting got Fred From Brooklyn to call into the show today...

Yea, it did have it's cons.

[Melk]

How personally did Fez take the Notre Dame/Sheepie and lettuce wrap incidents that he went for the throat on the second pregnancy aftermath?

Then there was that time that Fez ripped on Casey because sh eats like a rat.... wait that was another vagina-American that Fez ripped into... I know the secret! Fez hates women.

Was this a receipt from when Dave made fun of Milk being too gay even though he made the argument in December of 07 that Will Smith was wrong not to play gayer in 6 Degrees of Seperation?

[HBox]

How personally did Fez take the Notre Dame/Sheepie and lettuce wrap incidents that he went for the throat on the second pregnancy aftermath?

Then there was that time that Fez ripped on Casey because sh eats like a rat.... wait that was another vagina-American that Fez ripped into... I know the secret! Fez hates women.

Was this a receipt from when Dave made fun of Milk being too gay even though he made the argument in December of 07 that Will Smith was wrong not to play gayer in 6 Degrees of Seperation?

It wasn't Casey who Fez said ate like a rat, it was Dave's ex.

[Jughead]

I will say this it phucking sucks I can not stream the show anymore.....I miss it so much....

[brettmojo]

It wasn't Casey who Fez said ate like a rat, it was Dave's ex.
Still a vag...

[striker]

I didn't see the point of it. I know it's a running joke that Dave & Casey will have a kid every year, in all honesty, I would be incredibly surprised if they had another child any time soon. I think they are very aware of what they've gotten themselves into with 2 children, and what they haven't been aware of, they will be aware of very soon. To paint them as two reckless kids who will be having kids willy nilly is pretty far from the truth. So fine. That's covered. i don't think they need a lecture on that because they already know.

So now they have two kids, and maybe they didn't plan it that way? People are going to lecture them on that? What's the point? Should they be convinced to put one or both up for adoption because some people do not approve? Of course not. They've made a series of actions and decisions, and because of those actions and decisions they have two children who they will love dearly, but will also make their lives difficult in some respect. What's the point in lecturing them if you think they shouldn't have these kids now?



I'll chime in, since I'm rarely on here, but part of the issue is this. It's about responsibility, by their own admission, their respective parents are regularly having to pitch in to help them pay the bills. More than once we've heard of Casey's Dad paying their car insurance, or Beenie/Paddy paying for something. As I brought up on yesterday's show, bit or not, Dave has yet to show good judgement. He prefers drinking to anything else, he bitched about one kid in the house when Juliana first came home, now he's bitching about a second one.

Personally, I'll be more shocked if there aren't Irish triplets, quadruplets, or quints in the near future for them. It was suggested by many that Dave should get a vasectomy, yet instead of listening to his wife he listened to his mother. Casey could have gotten her tubes tied, did she? From the sound of it she did not, so I fully expect to hear of another pregnancy before years end.

[paulisded]

As I brought up on yesterday's show, bit or not, Dave has yet to show good judgement. He prefers drinking to anything else, he bitched about one kid in the house when Juliana first came home, now he's bitching about a second one.


Ugh.

Wackbag has officially spoken.

[Caseyelan]

I'll chime in, since I'm rarely on here, but part of the issue is this. It's about responsibility, by their own admission, their respective parents are regularly having to pitch in to help them pay the bills. More than once we've heard of Casey's Dad paying their car insurance, or Beenie/Paddy paying for something. As I brought up on yesterday's show, bit or not, Dave has yet to show good judgement. He prefers drinking to anything else, he bitched about one kid in the house when Juliana first came home, now he's bitching about a second one.

Personally, I'll be more shocked if there aren't Irish triplets, quadruplets, or quints in the near future for them. It was suggested by many that Dave should get a vasectomy, yet instead of listening to his wife he listened to his mother. Casey could have gotten her tubes tied, did she? From the sound of it she did not, so I fully expect to hear of another pregnancy before years end.


I'm glad I have car insurance with maniacs like you on the roads.

[Turtle]

So that's a grand total of one person for whom you've based your "normal looking guy" voting conspiracy on. Awesome!My 10 year old nephew had some very intersting opinions on AIDS the other day. According to him, simply by eating carrots you become immune to the virus. No more condoms for me!

Look Mr. Misunderstood My Post,, I didn’t say anything about a conspiracy theory. If you took the time read my post I said that it was my experience with the 10 year old girl demo (my daughter & her friends) went for the “normal looking boy”…I also said that I thought the less talented singer won. No fucking conspiracy, just my experience. BTW I hope your nephew’s idea on carrots was correct. Be sure to eat a bunch they're good for your eyes.

[styckx]

I'll chime in, since I'm rarely on here, but part of the issue is this. It's about responsibility, by their own admission, their respective parents are regularly having to pitch in to help them pay the bills. More than once we've heard of Casey's Dad paying their car insurance, or Beenie/Paddy paying for something. As I brought up on yesterday's show, bit or not, Dave has yet to show good judgement. He prefers drinking to anything else, he bitched about one kid in the house when Juliana first came home, now he's bitching about a second one.

Personally, I'll be more shocked if there aren't Irish triplets, quadruplets, or quints in the near future for them. It was suggested by many that Dave should get a vasectomy, yet instead of listening to his wife he listened to his mother. Casey could have gotten her tubes tied, did she? From the sound of it she did not, so I fully expect to hear of another pregnancy before years end.

Shocking you jumped in!!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lSRcr1adRKs/SZnt2L-i-0I/AAAAAAAAVN4/LccdU3IiFFM/s320/flies_on_shit.JPG

[mikeyboy]

I'll chime in, since I'm rarely on here, but part of the issue is this. It's about responsibility, by their own admission, their respective parents are regularly having to pitch in to help them pay the bills. More than once we've heard of Casey's Dad paying their car insurance, or Beenie/Paddy paying for something. As I brought up on yesterday's show, bit or not, Dave has yet to show good judgement. He prefers drinking to anything else, he bitched about one kid in the house when Juliana first came home, now he's bitching about a second one.

Personally, I'll be more shocked if there aren't Irish triplets, quadruplets, or quints in the near future for them. It was suggested by many that Dave should get a vasectomy, yet instead of listening to his wife he listened to his mother. Casey could have gotten her tubes tied, did she? From the sound of it she did not, so I fully expect to hear of another pregnancy before years end.

You don't even know what you're talking about. You're basing your judgment at least partially on what someone represented on the air. Go back and listen to the shows. Dave was going to get the vasectomy, but lots of people, including his wife and people on the show, told him to wait until after Stanley was born -- to wait and make sure everything was okay with him. This Beanie vs. Casey thing was completely made up by some caller. That doesn't stop you from making it a major part of your point.

As for your other points, once again, for the people not paying attention...


YOU DON'T KNOW REAL LIFE BASED ON WHAT YOU HEAR ON THE AIR. IT'S A RADIO SHOW FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT.

...of course it doesn't stop people from judging.

[mikeyboy]

Look shithead, I didn’t say anything about a conspiracy theory. If you took the time read my post I said that it was my experience with the 10 year old girl demo (my daughter & her friends) went for the “normal looking boy”…I also said that I thought the less talented singer won. No fucking conspiracy, just my experience. BTW I hope your nephew’s idea on carrots was correct. Be sure to eat a bunch.

Don't start with the name calling. The guy was critical of your opinion. He didn't personally attack you.

[Turtle]

Don't start with the name calling. The guy was critical of your opinion. He didn't personally attack you.

understood & fixed.

[~Katja~]

I'll chime in, since I'm rarely on here, but part of the issue is this. It's about responsibility, by their own admission, their respective parents are regularly having to pitch in to help them pay the bills. More than once we've heard of Casey's Dad paying their car insurance, or Beenie/Paddy paying for something. As I brought up on yesterday's show, bit or not, Dave has yet to show good judgement. He prefers drinking to anything else, he bitched about one kid in the house when Juliana first came home, now he's bitching about a second one.

Personally, I'll be more shocked if there aren't Irish triplets, quadruplets, or quints in the near future for them. It was suggested by many that Dave should get a vasectomy, yet instead of listening to his wife he listened to his mother. Casey could have gotten her tubes tied, did she? From the sound of it she did not, so I fully expect to hear of another pregnancy before years end.

well color me IRRESPONSIBLE for I have taken money from my mom when offered... for I have let her pay a bill here and there...while I was on maternity leave...
for I have taken her gifts for my kid... cause she wanted to help out even when not needed.

You are a dummy to think it makes anyone an irresponsible parent.

Let me ask you this; do you have children? Have you gone through the last days of a what seems to be never ending pregnancy, sleepless nights and aches... and the emotions of welcoming a new child and realizing it is here to stay... (even when planned it is the most overwhelming feeling) All these emotions subside quickly for happiness... and pride!
And EVERY parent comments on what a pain in the ass their child is at one point or another, I know I have, yet I would not have it any other way!


If you have not experienced any of it then you have not even the slightest right to compare or complain!



and btw, how DARE you say it is a wrong decision for a woman to not get her tubes tied... it is the most personal thing to decide and you have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to judge!

[ToiletCrusher]

even when he's wrong, he's right.

[Brad in Bama]

Normally I would agree with you on this, but here is my question. Who is the responsible grown up in the relationship? Surely it’s not ESD. The sooner Casey is back on her feet the better for the family.

Well having someone who can't even manage their own mental health is hardly someone I'd take any shit from. Fez always want's a shoulder to cry on, but feels superior to everyone around him. I agree with the shrink that called in the other day. He's letting his 5 year old self run his life.

I thought it was poor taste.

[biozombie]

I'll chime in, since I'm rarely on here....

Thanks for chiming in, Crashy McCrasherson.

[Brad in Bama]

well color me IRRESPONSIBLE for I have taken money from my mom when offered... for I have let her pay a bill here and there...while I was on maternity leave...
for I have taken her gifts for my kid... cause she wanted to help out even when not needed.

You are a dummy to think it makes anyone an irresponsible parent.

Let me ask you this; do you have children? Have you gone through the last days of a what seems to be never ending pregnancy, sleepless nights and aches... and the emotions of welcoming a new child and realizing it is here to stay... (even when planned it is the most overwhelming feeling) All these emotions subside quickly for happiness... and pride!
And EVERY parent comments on what a pain in the ass their child is at one point or another, I know I have, yet I would not have it any other way!


If you have not experienced any of it then you have not even the slightest right to compare or complain!



and btw, how DARE you say it is a wrong decision for a woman to not get her tubes tied... it is the most personal thing to decide and you have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to judge!

Right on!

Also, how many times have we heard the Anthony Cumia story of just trying to make it in the buisness and he kind of scratched to get by. Dave's got chops, and I really do think he belongs on the radio. So who's to say that things don't take off for him?

What's wrong with Dave and Casey just living the way they want? Who does it hurt? It sounds like they McDonalds have a pretty good support group in place, and it doesn't always have to be about money. I think they're lucky to have a supportive family.

[PD]

even when he's wrong, he's right.

who?
I sure as hell hope you mean Fez and not stryker.

Stryker just wants to continue has anti dave rants.

As for Fez, very simply- it's Dave & Casey's business and no one else's.
and if Fez thought he could help, doing it on the air wasn't the way to go.

[OKH]

Holy shit, they're fucking characters on a radio show. Fucking washwomen, seriously.

[The Happening]

Look Mr. Misunderstood My Post,, I didn’t say anything about a conspiracy theory. If you took the time read my post I said that it was my experience with the 10 year old girl demo (my daughter & her friends) went for the “normal looking boy”…I also said that I thought the less talented singer won. No fucking conspiracy, just my experience. BTW I hope your nephew’s idea on carrots was correct. Be sure to eat a bunch they're good for your eyes.
Your original post was in agreement with what Fez(the heel character) said on the radio. "Normal looking boy" could mean alot of different things. Just like other little girls(more then the 5 or so whom you based you agreement with Fez on) voted for the "different looking boy". To be so presumptuous and speak for the millions of people who voted, based on a few little girls, is silly. I bet the majority of people simply voted for the guy who in their opinion was the better singer/entertainer. So please, don't hide behind the "you didn't understand what I was saying" BS. It's an obvious tell to cluelessness.

PS: I stopped putting shit on my head years ago.

[#1FanofESD]

Let's think about some things.

1. Stop this bullshit that Fagpunzel gives two shits about ESD being in over his head with two kids. The only reason anything even came up is because ESD has to take a few days off from the show to handle his business at home.

Why is he even being asked to call into the show?

Because Fagpunzel can't round up any guest to fill time on a now four hour show. Because Fagpunzel would sit there on most days while ESD did much of the 'on air talent' portion of the show while Fagpunzel got ready to read some live plugs. Because the show isn't as entertaining when ESD isn't there and it's just Ron and Fagpunzel (Duid you hear the Monday show?)

Seems Fagpunzel was asked to step up to the plate for a week and he got his panties all frazzled in having to do so.

Must be nice to cash those huge checks while someone else earns that money for you.

2. Fagpunzel likes to spit advice out to others about things he has never experienced or things that he openly admits being biased towards or uneducated on.

'Don't have any more kids because you seem stressed out right now'.

Everyone under the sun who has kids has gone thru the same emotions that Dave and Casey are going thru right now. Fagpunzel would not know that now or ever.

The best part is that Fagpunzel is the last person any sane person should take 'family matters' advice from considering where he comes from. His mother treated him so well and did such a great job that he his whole life is a lie. Fagpunzel heads down to Florida a few times a year and throws around a few bucks so the family won't ask questions about his sexuality.

Brilliant! That's the guy who should be handing out advice to people in the midst of raising a family in 2009.

3. Fagunzel thinks a cat and a baby/babies are the same thing.

Having kids isn't the equivalent to picking up a fucking stray cat and buying some kitty liter.
He was barely hanging on with that situation. You see Fagpunzel thinks it's ok to take the cat back to the shelter. The only reason he didn't bring the cat back was because he was talked into keeping the damn thing by Ron.

He also left the cat at the kennel for a few extra days and didn't think twice about doing so because he will just throw down some extra loot. Fagpunzel won't say it on air but he wouldn't mind seeing Casey and ESD do away with one or maybe both of the kids because they are stressing them out. Just like he contemplated doing when his cat stressed him out.

Fagpunzel equates child rearing to owning a fucking pet. Pathetic!

4. Fagpunzel wants to rag on Miss Casey to get up out of bed within a week of having a kid to get right back in the mommy game.

Funny, I seem to remember Fagpunzel just having the flu a few times last week and staying him in his nice apartment instead of being responsible and getting his ass to his 3 hour cush job where he sits in a chair and pushes a few buttons.

And Fagpunzel didn't just take off one day. He took off as many days as he could until the bosses startedcalling him and inquiring why the fuck he was sitting at home. Then Fagpunzel got off his ass and showed up to work.

Guess what? Who stepped to the plate in his absence during that time? Who came into work everyday and offered to make sure that Fagpunzel's 'on air talent' portion of the show was handled while he took advantage of a doctor's note.

ESD. The same man who is now being shit on by Fagpunzel.

Did ESD start blabbing out that Fagpunzel should handle his personal life better so he wasn't always getting sick and missing time at work?

Nope. He just did what any GOOD MAN would do and stepped up the plate for a friend who needed him and didn't judge him for being a weak pussy who was shirking his responsibility.

5. Fagpunzel doesn't have any real friends.

Why? Because Fagpunzel is a self centered fuck who doesn't deserve any friends.

Anyone who thinks they are his friend gets shit on. Opie is the lastest victim.

After working for all this time as a 'team' do you even think for one second Opie thought that he would ever have to hear shit from the bosses about Fagpunzel turning on them? All the bullshit aside, Opie had to be in fucking shock about that and I am sure Ron had to save Fagpunzel's ass from a 'on-air beatdown' on that one. Fagpunzel cries on a weekly basis just from waking up every day. Can you imagine how hard Opie could make his life?
But Opie dropped it because he respects Ron.

6. Fagpunzel predicition.

He will be crying at some point in time that everyone hates him for this. Ron will say he deserves it. ESD will forgive him. So will Casey in some manner.

Then Fagpunzel will march back to his tower after these events with a wry smirk on his face knowing all he has to do is shed a few years to get back in the good graces of his peers. And as he looks down from his tower once he arrives back there he will not have changed one bit.

Inside Fagpunzel it's black. It's dark. And it's dead.

And that's just the way Fagpunzel likes it.

:king:

[yojimbo7248]

Then Fagpunzel will march back to his tower after these events with a wry smirk on his face knowing all he has to do is shed a few years to get back in the good graces of his peers.

you most likely mean shed a few 'tears' rather than 'years' but I like that typo since he does shed many, many years when he talks about his age. I know it is a bit but he does seem to really not want to mention his real age like some over-the-hill Broadway diva.

Just wanted to point that out. I like Fez and am not jumping on the dogpile. You make some good points but, man, you really hate the guy, don't you?

[led37zep]

Let's think about some things.

1. Stop this bullshit that Fagpunzel gives two shits about ESD being in over his head with two kids. The only reason anything even came up is because ESD has to take a few days off from the show to handle his business at home.

Why is he even being asked to call into the show?

Because Fagpunzel can't round up any guest to fill time on a now four hour show. Because Fagpunzel would sit there on most days while ESD did much of the 'on air talent' portion of the show while Fagpunzel got ready to read some live plugs. Because the show isn't as entertaining when ESD isn't there and it's just Ron and Fagpunzel (Duid you hear the Monday show?)

Seems Fagpunzel was asked to step up to the plate for a week and he got his panties all frazzled in having to do so.

Must be nice to cash those huge checks while someone else earns that money for you.

2. Fagpunzel likes to spit advice out to others about things he has never experienced or things that he openly admits being biased towards or uneducated on.

'Don't have any more kids because you seem stressed out right now'.

Everyone under the sun who has kids has gone thru the same emotions that Dave and Casey are going thru right now. Fagpunzel would not know that now or ever.

The best part is that Fagpunzel is the last person any sane person should take 'family matters' advice from considering where he comes from. His mother treated him so well and did such a great job that he his whole life is a lie. Fagpunzel heads down to Florida a few times a year and throws around a few bucks so the family won't ask questions about his sexuality.

Brilliant! That's the guy who should be handing out advice to people in the midst of raising a family in 2009.

3. Fagunzel thinks a cat and a baby/babies are the same thing.

Having kids isn't the equivalent to picking up a fucking stray cat and buying some kitty liter.
He was barely hanging on with that situation. You see Fagpunzel thinks it's ok to take the cat back to the shelter. The only reason he didn't bring the cat back was because he was talked into keeping the damn thing by Ron.

He also left the cat at the kennel for a few extra days and didn't think twice about doing so because he will just throw down some extra loot. Fagpunzel won't say it on air but he wouldn't mind seeing Casey and ESD do away with one or maybe both of the kids because they are stressing them out. Just like he contemplated doing when his cat stressed him out.

Fagpunzel equates child rearing to owning a fucking pet. Pathetic!

4. Fagpunzel wants to rag on Miss Casey to get up out of bed within a week of having a kid to get right back in the mommy game.

Funny, I seem to remember Fagpunzel just having the flu a few times last week and staying him in his nice apartment instead of being responsible and getting his ass to his 3 hour cush job where he sits in a chair and pushes a few buttons.

And Fagpunzel didn't just take off one day. He took off as many days as he could until the bosses startedcalling him and inquiring why the fuck he was sitting at home. Then Fagpunzel got off his ass and showed up to work.

Guess what? Who stepped to the plate in his absence during that time? Who came into work everyday and offered to make sure that Fagpunzel's 'on air talent' portion of the show was handled while he took advantage of a doctor's note.

ESD. The same man who is now being shit on by Fagpunzel.

Did ESD start blabbing out that Fagpunzel should handle his personal life better so he wasn't always getting sick and missing time at work?

Nope. He just did what any GOOD MAN would do and stepped up the plate for a friend who needed him and didn't judge him for being a weak pussy who was shirking his responsibility.

5. Fagpunzel doesn't have any real friends.

Why? Because Fagpunzel is a self centered fuck who doesn't deserve any friends.

Anyone who thinks they are his friend gets shit on. Opie is the lastest victim.

After working for all this time as a 'team' do you even think for one second Opie thought that he would ever have to hear shit from the bosses about Fagpunzel turning on them? All the bullshit aside, Opie had to be in fucking shock about that and I am sure Ron had to save Fagpunzel's ass from a 'on-air beatdown' on that one. Fagpunzel cries on a weekly basis just from waking up every day. Can you imagine how hard Opie could make his life?
But Opie dropped it because he respects Ron.

6. Fagpunzel predicition.

He will be crying at some point in time that everyone hates him for this. Ron will say he deserves it. ESD will forgive him. So will Casey in some manner.

Then Fagpunzel will march back to his tower after these events with a wry smirk on his face knowing all he has to do is shed a few years to get back in the good graces of his peers. And as he looks down from his tower once he arrives back there he will not have changed one bit.

Inside Fagpunzel it's black. It's dark. And it's dead.

And that's just the way Fagpunzel likes it.

:king:

Why would you write so much?

[Sue_Bender]

That is quite the manifesto! :thumbup:

You handled all talking points delicately and completely. :thumbup:

You have obviously been taking notes. :thumbup:

Oh, and this is a radio show meant to entertain the ears. Please, settle the fuck down. They have to fill four hours. O & A are finding this difficult (as they praise all the new "production") and take as many breaks as they're allowed.

The argument is there. I agree with a lot of what you stated. However, you seem overly eager to nail Fez. Why do you listen? Did you enjoy the show before ESD? Are you a relatively new "listener/asshole"?

I have many of the same frustrations, but why post this vitriol? Who are hoping to reign in? Is there a riot coming? Doubtful.

Dave and Casey know where this is coming from. They're adults.

You should look up to them. :wink:

[yojimbo7248]

That is quite the manifesto! :thumbup:

You handled all talking points delicately and completely. :thumbup:

You have obviously been taking notes. :thumbup:

Oh, and this is a radio show meant to entertain the ears. Please, settle the fuck down. They have to fill four hours. O & A are finding this difficult (as they praise all the new "production") and take as many breaks as they're allowed.

The argument is there. I agree with a lot of what you stated. However, you seem overly eager to nail Fez. Why do you listen? Did you enjoy the show before ESD? Are you a relatively new "listener/asshole"?

I have many of the same frustrations, but why post this vitriol? Who are hoping to reign in? Is there a riot coming? Doubtful.

Dave and Casey know where this is coming from. They're adults.

You should look up to them. :wink:

this is why I love Sue Bender. this is perfect. :clap:

[Enabler]

who is fagpunzel?

[sailor]

:king:

now it all makes sense.

[Heather 8]

tl;dr

[WillC]

Hey,how ya doin.
This is my first post here.Been listenin for a while and really enjoy the show for a lot of reasons.I think this is what and should be what radio is all about.No one comes to radio to hear music anymore,we all know that.This show makes me homesick,reminds me of where I came from.I am stuck down here in "Huckleberry Hell" as I call it. Anyways just wanted to say,Ron ,Fez and all of you, keep talkin bout everything you do,keep letting us in on who you are.Youse guys have a good thing goin.We are all different and deal with life as it touches us in different ways.Fez is alright,is that right ! ,he took a pet back to the shelter? I'll try and forgive him for that when I really want to slap him in the head for that.
Not cool,but not everyone can handle pets as not everyone should have kids. Okay I'll be around...
later down an worry free...

[TjM]

Why the fuck is this guy allowed to continue to troll

[IMSlacker]

I didn't read that. But I scanned it and didn't see any "lols", so it couldn't be very funny.

[DHoppe08]

wow dude... get a life man no radio show should be this important to ones personal situation. You dont know anything, so STFU, I never post here but your just one crazy individual.:help:





Let's think about some things.

1. Stop this bullshit that Fagpunzel gives two shits about ESD being in over his head with two kids. The only reason anything even came up is because ESD has to take a few days off from the show to handle his business at home.

Why is he even being asked to call into the show?

Because Fagpunzel can't round up any guest to fill time on a now four hour show. Because Fagpunzel would sit there on most days while ESD did much of the 'on air talent' portion of the show while Fagpunzel got ready to read some live plugs. Because the show isn't as entertaining when ESD isn't there and it's just Ron and Fagpunzel (Duid you hear the Monday show?)

Seems Fagpunzel was asked to step up to the plate for a week and he got his panties all frazzled in having to do so.

Must be nice to cash those huge checks while someone else earns that money for you.

2. Fagpunzel likes to spit advice out to others about things he has never experienced or things that he openly admits being biased towards or uneducated on.

'Don't have any more kids because you seem stressed out right now'.

Everyone under the sun who has kids has gone thru the same emotions that Dave and Casey are going thru right now. Fagpunzel would not know that now or ever.

The best part is that Fagpunzel is the last person any sane person should take 'family matters' advice from considering where he comes from. His mother treated him so well and did such a great job that he his whole life is a lie. Fagpunzel heads down to Florida a few times a year and throws around a few bucks so the family won't ask questions about his sexuality.

Brilliant! That's the guy who should be handing out advice to people in the midst of raising a family in 2009.

3. Fagunzel thinks a cat and a baby/babies are the same thing.

Having kids isn't the equivalent to picking up a fucking stray cat and buying some kitty liter.
He was barely hanging on with that situation. You see Fagpunzel thinks it's ok to take the cat back to the shelter. The only reason he didn't bring the cat back was because he was talked into keeping the damn thing by Ron.

He also left the cat at the kennel for a few extra days and didn't think twice about doing so because he will just throw down some extra loot. Fagpunzel won't say it on air but he wouldn't mind seeing Casey and ESD do away with one or maybe both of the kids because they are stressing them out. Just like he contemplated doing when his cat stressed him out.

Fagpunzel equates child rearing to owning a fucking pet. Pathetic!

4. Fagpunzel wants to rag on Miss Casey to get up out of bed within a week of having a kid to get right back in the mommy game.

Funny, I seem to remember Fagpunzel just having the flu a few times last week and staying him in his nice apartment instead of being responsible and getting his ass to his 3 hour cush job where he sits in a chair and pushes a few buttons.

And Fagpunzel didn't just take off one day. He took off as many days as he could until the bosses startedcalling him and inquiring why the fuck he was sitting at home. Then Fagpunzel got off his ass and showed up to work.

Guess what? Who stepped to the plate in his absence during that time? Who came into work everyday and offered to make sure that Fagpunzel's 'on air talent' portion of the show was handled while he took advantage of a doctor's note.

ESD. The same man who is now being shit on by Fagpunzel.

Did ESD start blabbing out that Fagpunzel should handle his personal life better so he wasn't always getting sick and missing time at work?

Nope. He just did what any GOOD MAN would do and stepped up the plate for a friend who needed him and didn't judge him for being a weak pussy who was shirking his responsibility.

5. Fagpunzel doesn't have any real friends.

Why? Because Fagpunzel is a self centered fuck who doesn't deserve any friends.

Anyone who thinks they are his friend gets shit on. Opie is the lastest victim.

After working for all this time as a 'team' do you even think for one second Opie thought that he would ever have to hear shit from the bosses about Fagpunzel turning on them? All the bullshit aside, Opie had to be in fucking shock about that and I am sure Ron had to save Fagpunzel's ass from a 'on-air beatdown' on that one. Fagpunzel cries on a weekly basis just from waking up every day. Can you imagine how hard Opie could make his life?
But Opie dropped it because he respects Ron.

6. Fagpunzel predicition.

He will be crying at some point in time that everyone hates him for this. Ron will say he deserves it. ESD will forgive him. So will Casey in some manner.

Then Fagpunzel will march back to his tower after these events with a wry smirk on his face knowing all he has to do is shed a few years to get back in the good graces of his peers. And as he looks down from his tower once he arrives back there he will not have changed one bit.

Inside Fagpunzel it's black. It's dark. And it's dead.

And that's just the way Fagpunzel likes it.

:king:

[~Katja~]

Let's think about some things.

1. Stop this bullshit that Fagpunzel gives two shits about ESD being in over his head with two kids. The only reason anything even came up is because ESD has to take a few days off from the show to handle his business at home.

Why is he even being asked to call into the show?

Because Fagpunzel can't round up any guest to fill time on a now four hour show. Because Fagpunzel would sit there on most days while ESD did much of the 'on air talent' portion of the show while Fagpunzel got ready to read some live plugs. Because the show isn't as entertaining when ESD isn't there and it's just Ron and Fagpunzel (Duid you hear the Monday show?)

Seems Fagpunzel was asked to step up to the plate for a week and he got his panties all frazzled in having to do so.

Must be nice to cash those huge checks while someone else earns that money for you.

2. Fagpunzel likes to spit advice out to others about things he has never experienced or things that he openly admits being biased towards or uneducated on.

'Don't have any more kids because you seem stressed out right now'.

Everyone under the sun who has kids has gone thru the same emotions that Dave and Casey are going thru right now. Fagpunzel would not know that now or ever.

The best part is that Fagpunzel is the last person any sane person should take 'family matters' advice from considering where he comes from. His mother treated him so well and did such a great job that he his whole life is a lie. Fagpunzel heads down to Florida a few times a year and throws around a few bucks so the family won't ask questions about his sexuality.

Brilliant! That's the guy who should be handing out advice to people in the midst of raising a family in 2009.

3. Fagunzel thinks a cat and a baby/babies are the same thing.

Having kids isn't the equivalent to picking up a fucking stray cat and buying some kitty liter.
He was barely hanging on with that situation. You see Fagpunzel thinks it's ok to take the cat back to the shelter. The only reason he didn't bring the cat back was because he was talked into keeping the damn thing by Ron.

He also left the cat at the kennel for a few extra days and didn't think twice about doing so because he will just throw down some extra loot. Fagpunzel won't say it on air but he wouldn't mind seeing Casey and ESD do away with one or maybe both of the kids because they are stressing them out. Just like he contemplated doing when his cat stressed him out.

Fagpunzel equates child rearing to owning a fucking pet. Pathetic!

4. Fagpunzel wants to rag on Miss Casey to get up out of bed within a week of having a kid to get right back in the mommy game.

Funny, I seem to remember Fagpunzel just having the flu a few times last week and staying him in his nice apartment instead of being responsible and getting his ass to his 3 hour cush job where he sits in a chair and pushes a few buttons.

And Fagpunzel didn't just take off one day. He took off as many days as he could until the bosses startedcalling him and inquiring why the fuck he was sitting at home. Then Fagpunzel got off his ass and showed up to work.

Guess what? Who stepped to the plate in his absence during that time? Who came into work everyday and offered to make sure that Fagpunzel's 'on air talent' portion of the show was handled while he took advantage of a doctor's note.

ESD. The same man who is now being shit on by Fagpunzel.

Did ESD start blabbing out that Fagpunzel should handle his personal life better so he wasn't always getting sick and missing time at work?

Nope. He just did what any GOOD MAN would do and stepped up the plate for a friend who needed him and didn't judge him for being a weak pussy who was shirking his responsibility.

5. Fagpunzel doesn't have any real friends.

Why? Because Fagpunzel is a self centered fuck who doesn't deserve any friends.

Anyone who thinks they are his friend gets shit on. Opie is the lastest victim.

After working for all this time as a 'team' do you even think for one second Opie thought that he would ever have to hear shit from the bosses about Fagpunzel turning on them? All the bullshit aside, Opie had to be in fucking shock about that and I am sure Ron had to save Fagpunzel's ass from a 'on-air beatdown' on that one. Fagpunzel cries on a weekly basis just from waking up every day. Can you imagine how hard Opie could make his life?
But Opie dropped it because he respects Ron.

6. Fagpunzel predicition.

He will be crying at some point in time that everyone hates him for this. Ron will say he deserves it. ESD will forgive him. So will Casey in some manner.

Then Fagpunzel will march back to his tower after these events with a wry smirk on his face knowing all he has to do is shed a few years to get back in the good graces of his peers. And as he looks down from his tower once he arrives back there he will not have changed one bit.

Inside Fagpunzel it's black. It's dark. And it's dead.

And that's just the way Fagpunzel likes it.

:king:


stopped reading at the first "Fagpunzel"

I mean seriously, get lost if you can't play fair... your personal insults just keep getting worse.

[GreatAmericanZero]

this thread truly has some of the weirdest/creepiest/most bizarre posts i have ever read

and i think i made it 3 words into #1esd's post

[underdog]

since I'm rarely on here

Thank god.

It is fun to know that your weird sexual obsession with ESD still exists, though.

[FezsAssistant]

Holy shit, they're fucking characters on a radio show. Fucking washwomen, seriously.

That's wierd. The people on this site are always saying how 'real' R&F are and O&A are fake pieces of shit. As soon as a R&F person acts like an asshole, suddenly it's a 'character' and they shouldn't be held responsible.

[Gvac]

That's wierd. The people on this site are always saying how 'real' R&F are and O&A are fake pieces of shit. As soon as a R&F person acts like an asshole, suddenly it's a 'character' and they shouldn't be held responsible.

Yeah!

Fuck everybody!

[GreatAmericanZero]

That's wierd. The people on this site are always saying how 'real' R&F are and O&A are fake pieces of shit. As soon as a R&F person acts like an asshole, suddenly it's a 'character' and they shouldn't be held responsible.

well..it is a ron&fez site with O&A just being a subforum of a subforum. there is logic

"jeez, how come people on the football messageboard always say what a great sport football is but then say baseball is a bad sport...Hypocrites!"

[BlackSpider]

That's wierd. The people on this site are always saying how 'real' R&F are and O&A are fake pieces of shit. As soon as a R&F person acts like an asshole, suddenly it's a 'character' and they shouldn't be held responsible.

Aren't you Fez's assistant...?

[zildjian361]

well I disagree. Just cause a pregnancy was not planned in the first place and seems to be in too close time frame to the first I cannot say that it is a mistake for the two of them to have and raise children.
Just cause Dave says things on the air that seem rather crazy like that the kids are out of control and are throwing liquids at each other (think about it... REALLY????) does not mean that the situation is out of control or hopeless.
Millions of families have started on less wealth and even less fortunate circumstances and they have grown in to happy and healthy families with wonderful children.
Casey and Dave have family, friends and a lot of moral support from fans even, not to forget what an incredible child Julianna has grown into just one year... she is funny, adorable and has an amazing charm about her... it does not come from nowhere... it's great parenting and lots of love and creativity surrounding her.
These children are happy and lucky!

Do the first days of new parenthood seem exhausting and crazy and overwhelming? Sure, but no less to a wealthy family with nannies and nurses to spare by their side...
it's life... and it's the part of parenthood that is quickly forgotten when they reach their little milestones each and all the sleepless nights and overwhelming moments get taken over by incredible pride... the pride over our children and what they accomplish and that they accomplish it because of us...

Casey deserves the rest she is hopefully taking...(and no Fez, she is not being lazy, every woman handles childbirth different and most of all heals differently) Dave can manage for a few hours here and there... after all it's what Casey does every day and will be doing every day for the future... it can only make Dave appreciate more how hard a job it is to be a mom and take care of children.

I wish both of them the best. Being a parent is a great thing and it gives much meaning to your life... it's never a bad or wrong decision.

You said a mouthful Girl:laugh:

[K.C.]

Yeah!

Fuck everybody!

Right on!!!!!

Let's tear this place apart!!!!!!!!!

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[FezsAssistant]

well..it is a ron&fez site with O&A just being a subforum of a subforum. there is logic

"jeez, how come people on the football messageboard always say what a great sport football is but then say baseball is a bad sport...Hypocrites!"

the shows are highly related. O&A is more than a subforum on this site. they are public enemy #1. I think people should apply the same strict standards to R&F as they do to O&A, or else it makes the people on this site look highly hypocritical and devalues all of their opinions.

that's like saying "it's ok for Obama to violate our constitutional rights, but not George W. Bush - hey, it's an Obama fan site so let's throw logic and honesty out the window!"

It's very ignorant to do such things.

[mikeyboy]

the shows are highly related. O&A is more than a subforum on this site. they are public enemy #1. I think people should apply the same strict standards to R&F as they do to O&A, or else it makes the people on this site look highly hypocritical and devalues all of their opinions.

that's like saying "it's ok for Obama to violate our constitutional rights, but not George W. Bush - hey, it's an Obama fan site so let's throw logic and honesty out the window!"

It's very ignorant to do such things.

Why are you here? All you seem to do is complain about R&F, have a hissy fit whenever anyone says anything remotely negative about O&A, and rant about liberals. It's kind of a weird place to spend your time if that's your agenda.

[drjoek]

I bet he's really proud of that Fagpunzel gimmick.

[GreatAmericanZero]

the shows are highly related. O&A is more than a subforum on this site. they are public enemy #1. I think people should apply the same strict standards to R&F as they do to O&A, or else it makes the people on this site look highly hypocritical and devalues all of their opinions.

that's like saying "it's ok for Obama to violate our constitutional rights, but not George W. Bush - hey, it's an Obama fan site so let's throw logic and honesty out the window!"

It's very ignorant to do such things.

but if you go to an obama fan site, they would be defending what Obama is doing and shitting on what George W is doing. That is logical. And if someone is surprised by the notion that they are doing that than perhaps they are reading the wrong messageboard, no?

[Gvac]

Aren't you Fez's assistant...?

I don't think he really is.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

Let's think about some things.

...


funny post! I think you have some insights - if not into fez, than into fez's character at least - but what's with the name calling? i hope you don't burn out from your animosity, because you do have some thoroughly thought-out posts.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

Hey,how ya doin.
This is my first post here.Been listenin for a while and really enjoy the show for a lot of reasons.I think this is what and should be what radio is all about.No one comes to radio to hear music anymore,we all know that.This show makes me homesick,reminds me of where I came from.I am stuck down here in "Huckleberry Hell" as I call it. Anyways just wanted to say,Ron ,Fez and all of you, keep talkin bout everything you do,keep letting us in on who you are.Youse guys have a good thing goin.We are all different and deal with life as it touches us in different ways.Fez is alright,is that right ! ,he took a pet back to the shelter? I'll try and forgive him for that when I really want to slap him in the head for that.
Not cool,but not everyone can handle pets as not everyone should have kids. Okay I'll be around...
later down an worry free...

welcome. wait, do i read you correctly that fez sent skippy away? "wtf"!

[Sue_Bender]

i think i made it 3 words into #1esd's post

There were some big words in that bad boy.

I can imagine the strain.

[GreatAmericanZero]

There were some big words in that bad boy.

I can imagine the strain.

i seriously would like to see a poll to see if any reader of this site made it through the whole thing

if a mod could add it to this thread i think it would be awesome

[Sue_Bender]

i seriously would like to see a poll to see if any reader of this site made it through the whole thing

if a mod could add it to this thread i think it would be awesome

I read the entire thing...but seriously regret it.

That post should be "Stickied" in the Creep Forum.

[brettmojo]

I'll chime in, since I'm rarely on here, but part of the issue is this. It's about responsibility,
Which you know nothing about.

But hey, keep on truckin'... http://struff.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/action-smiley-069.gif

[OleBullNuts]

striker is a douche, fo sho. and i'm lumping fez into the douche category as well.

[Gvac]

Right on!!!!!

Let's tear this place apart!!!!!!!!!

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I like the cut of your jib, K.C.!

Or is it K.C!?

So confusing.

[WampusCrandle]

Moe for Mod!!

oh god, no - please no.

For some reason my post got screwed up.

here's the pic that is oddly now missing....

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6969/staneastside.jpg

just an adorable kid! you and dave must be on cloud nine!

Says the captain of the 3rd rate schmizbo ship.

:king:

Write it again, it might be funny that time.

i kinda thought it was funny the first time.


Boy, there is too much tension on this board. It's amazing to leave this site for a while and then come back. I was nice and relaxed in the mountains and I come to read this garbage of nastiness, but riddled with possible truths.

At any rate, I pose this question: Are people allowed to talk about Fez with attacks now that he posts here? Should he or shouldn't he be treated like every other poster?

[jessicaduh]

At any rate, I pose this question: Are people allowed to talk about Fez with attacks now that he posts here? Should he or shouldn't he be treated like every other poster?

of course he shouldn't be - HE MIGHT MENTION ME ON THE AIR! OMFG! i have to kiss his ass so bad!

[underdog]

of course he shouldn't be - HE MIGHT MENTION ME ON THE AIR! OMFG! i have to kiss his ass so bad!

You forgot to sign out, spoon/gvac.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

i just wanted to add another of my 2 cents, since this was brought up again today with dave's return, that the idea that fez is upset with casey because of posting about proflowers here is, to me, totally absurd.

fez really sounded serious about this today. it was a lame idea - we all have lame ideas from time to time - to share an internet thread with a sponsor. as i understand it, he didn't actually share it, he just wanted to - right? and casey posted her experience with it and now, weeks later, fez still carries venom over her 'spoiling' his bright idea? sorry, it was a dud idea, but even beyond that, why in heck should casey worry about posting about a flower site on the internet? guess what, i have made post after post here (in my limited attendance) hammering on the lame "sponsors" of r&f - and i consider that my freedom not only because this is an internet message board but also because i've been a paying xm subscriber for a long time. maybe f should think more about laughs 8 to 12 and less about his perceived personal commitments to the sponsors.

[styckx]

That first hour proves once again why radio show hosts and message boards should have absolutely zero interaction with each other. History has proven it leads to nothing but stupidity.

[The Ogre]

From the sound of that last post, Fred from Brooklyn must have made an appearance today.

[TripleSkeet]

i seriously would like to see a poll to see if any reader of this site made it through the whole thing

if a mod could add it to this thread i think it would be awesome

Hahahaha I didnt make it past the first Fagpunzel either.

[TripleSkeet]

From the sound of that last post, Fred from Brooklyn must have made an appearance today.

I dont know if he did or not, but I know Styckx HATES whenever the hosts spend any time acknowledging the boards. LOL I personally love it. I miss board gossip alot actually.

[styckx]

From the sound of that last post, Fred from Brooklyn must have made an appearance today.

More like FezFromBocaRaton

[WellDiggersAss]

Fez has been acting like a cunt.

[Crispy123]

Fez has been acting like a cunt.

Thats right. I've never met a cunt thats lied to me. It may have hidden a few things but never lied. And thats why fez is like a cunt because he's 100% right about everything.

Oh and we would love to have Fez in Boca Raton.

[GreatAmericanZero]

i loved how Dave tried to keep the conversation funny. When Fez was talking about birth control and Dave said "i do love to jizz!" and he said something about his wife's beautiful contracting pussy...i love that Dave can put his own ego aside and focus on trying to make the segment entertaining to the listeners.

you guys can judge me about what kind of fan i am, but i just like the show so much better when Dave is on the air contributing. Even during the gay marriage conversation the best part was dave and chris stanley clapping when Ron would say "i am now against gay marriage"

[Crispy123]

you guys can judge me about what kind of fan i am, but i just like the show so much better when Dave is on the air contributing. Even during the gay marriage conversation the best part was dave and chris stanley clapping when Ron would say "i am now against gay marriage"


You sir are the worst kind of fan, no wait thats ADF. You sir are the second worst kind of fan!

[K.C.]

The war is over if you want.

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[K.C.]

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[yojimbo7248]

i loved how Dave tried to keep the conversation funny. When Fez was talking about birth control and Dave said "i do love to jizz!" and he said something about his wife's beautiful contracting pussy...i love that Dave can put his own ego aside and focus on trying to make the segment entertaining to the listeners.


I was thinking the same thing. Dave was always trying to keep it entertaining. Fez's accusations and especially his negativity toward Casey would have been hard to rise above but ESD consistently turned it into a joke and never got upset (at least for the hour or so that I was listening). I thought Dave was impressive today.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

I was thinking the same thing. Dave was always trying to keep it entertaining. Fez's accusations and especially his negativity toward Casey would have been hard to rise above but ESD consistently turned it into a joke and never got upset (at least for the hour or so that I was listening). I thought Dave was impressive today.

agreed. fez's line about "i'm mad at you because you misinterpreted me" - a classic narcissistic attack - would have infuriated me if i was in esd's shoes. but it sounds like ron is trying to hammer some sense into fez. esd really did rise above fez's provocations in a mature way. unfortunately, "no good deed goes unpunished." -- alternate theory: it's all a big bit to tantalize the listeners.

[yojimbo7248]

agreed. fez's line about "i'm mad at you because you misinterpreted me" - a classic narcissistic attack - would have infuriated me if i was in esd's shoes. but it sounds like ron is trying to hammer some sense into fez. esd really did rise above fez's provocations in a mature way. unfortunately, "no good deed goes unpunished." -- alternate theory: it's all a big bit to tantalize the listeners.


I completely agree. the whole thing could very well be a bit. Dave was a little too calm, cool, collected, with a good sense of humor. Fez was a little too shrill, petty, judgmental. They very likely were acting or at least exaggerating.

[K.C.]

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[Enabler]

i loved how Dave tried to keep the conversation funny. When Fez was talking about birth control and Dave said "i do love to jizz!" and he said something about his wife's beautiful contracting pussy...i love that Dave can put his own ego aside and focus on trying to make the segment entertaining to the listeners.



Dont forget daves line about having 2 balls...and how fez was going back and forth kicking each of them. :lol:

i can relate to fez though. being a single guy it gets harder and harder to stay close with your married friends. especially a guy like dave who has really made some major positive changes in his life and seemingly "has it all." its not jealousy. its just fear/hatred of change. which fez has admitted to. dave is still a redheaded retard and all, but hes also sorta hit the jackpot in his personal and professional life. i dont think fez hates casey at all, but its easier to sorta "blame the new guy" than deal with the fact that his buddy dave is all growd ups...or at least getting there fast. and the fact that dave and fez do a daily talk show together makes it inevitable that the issue will come up sooner or later.

[JRC]

Fez is rarely right about anything. I have been listening for a long time, and that guy really is a cancer to the show. He always turns the conversation to his stupid problems that go in circles, and rarely has anything funny to say. The only thing good about him is that he is easy to make fun of. He just rides the coattails of Ron Bennington, who is probably the funniest person on the planet.

Before I get lambasted by all the faithfuls (aka coddlers) who will say, 'why do you listen if you only like 1/2 of the show', I will just say that Ron's talent greatly overrides Fez's non-talent. I also enjoy when ESD and Chris Stanley get in the convo's. So technically, that's only a 1/4 of the show that I don't like. Except when Crazed is there, but I think everyone can agree that he's a douche.

[Crispy123]

Fez is rarely right about anything. I have been listening for a long time, and that guy really is a cancer to the show. He always turns the conversation to his stupid problems that go in circles, and rarely has anything funny to say. The only thing good about him is that he is easy to make fun of. He just rides the coattails of Ron Bennington, who is probably the funniest person on the planet.

Before I get lambasted by all the faithfuls (aka coddlers) who will say, 'why do you listen if you only like 1/2 of the show', I will just say that Ron's talent greatly overrides Fez's non-talent. I also enjoy when ESD and Chris Stanley get in the convo's. So technically, that's only a 1/4 of the show that I don't like. Except when Crazed is there, but I think everyone can agree that he's a douche.

It's pretty easy to spot a douche thats for sure.

[JRC]

It's pretty easy to spot a douche thats for sure.

is it?

[ShowerBench]

Duck and cover, here comes another JRC Lie Bomb! JRC, what do you think of Fez?

Fez is rarely right about anything. I have been listening for a long time, and that guy really is a cancer to the show. He always turns the conversation to his stupid problems that go in circles, and rarely has anything funny to say.

[JRC]

Duck and cover, here comes another JRC Lie Bomb! JRC, what do you think of Fez?

I'll just put it this way. If Fez takes a day off the show, and Ronnie B holds down the fort, we'd all continue to listen and all would be well in the universe. What if Ron took a day off? U think Fez would be able to hold down an entertaining show by himself?

[underdog]

I'll just put it this way. If Fez takes a day off the show, and Ronnie B holds down the fort, we'd all continue to listen and all would be well in the universe. What if Ron took a day off? U think Fez would be able to hold down an entertaining show by himself?

Yes, but in a completely different way.

[JRC]

Yes, but in a completely different way.

fair enough.

personally, i think i'd make it about 15 minutes in and have to switch over to pandora. who knows, maybe he'd surprise me.

[GreatAmericanZero]

its weird the negative spin that messageboard posters (and fez, i guess) are using on this new baby. Everything from Dave & Casey seem to be that they love the baby and are overjoyed

all the other stuff is just weird to discuss. "Two babies are so much hard work"...but what if they just had twins to start with? No one would be shitting on them. Now they have 2 kids, its not a bad thing...people raise twins all the time, i believe they are up to the challenge

even the financial stuff is weird to discuss because there can be a family that is making money and planning everything out carefully and then a few layoffs in a bad economy and they are in an even worse situation than Dave & Casey. They love and cherish their kids and they have a Wii, those kids are set for atleast the next 6 years

i'm happy for them. I think they are going to raise some great people because they have great parents. And even if they do have a third one i'd still think its awesome

[Penelope]

I'm just taking this whole thing as one of Fez's catty moments.
Except this catty moment is really long.

[MelonSmuggler]

I am not going to argue over whether or not Fez is correct in his assessment of Dave's situation. I find it funny that everyone bitches about Fez not contributing to the show, and then the minute he voices his opinion, everybody jumps on him.

I don't think you can have it both ways...you either want Fez involved (even when he is spouting whacky theories), or you don't. Hell, everything out of Dave's mouth is nonsensical babbling bullshit and we just love him for it.

Besides, Dave has created this persona of airing all of his family business on the air (although I tend to believe that 90 percent of it is a work)....So if it is out there in the public, anyone has the right to comment and give their opinion.

[foodcourtdruide]

I am not going to argue over whether or not Fez is correct in his assessment of Dave's situation. I find it funny that everyone bitches about Fez not contributing to the show, and then the minute he voices his opinion, everybody jumps on him.

I don't think you can have it both ways...you either want Fez involved (even when he is spouting whacky theories), or you don't. Hell, everything out of Dave's mouth is nonsensical babbling bullshit and we just love him for it.

Besides, Dave has created this persona of airing all of his family business on the air (although I tend to believe that 90 percent of it is a work)....So if it is out there in the public, anyone has the right to comment and give their opinion.

I kinda agree. Everyone screams its none of our business, but than why does Dave air it all out?

He really should keep some things personal. I was cringing today when he bought up the Medical issue Casey has. I really wish I didn't know about it.

[CHUCKWAGONCOOK]

I am not going to argue over whether or not Fez is correct in his assessment of Dave's situation. I find it funny that everyone bitches about Fez not contributing to the show, and then the minute he voices his opinion, everybody jumps on him.

I don't think you can have it both ways...you either want Fez involved (even when he is spouting whacky theories), or you don't. Hell, everything out of Dave's mouth is nonsensical babbling bullshit and we just love him for it.

Besides, Dave has created this persona of airing all of his family business on the air (although I tend to believe that 90 percent of it is a work)....So if it is out there in the public, anyone has the right to comment and give their opinion.Yeah......What he said!

[Slumbag]

I am not going to argue over whether or not Fez is correct in his assessment of Dave's situation. I find it funny that everyone bitches about Fez not contributing to the show, and then the minute he voices his opinion, everybody jumps on him.

I don't think you can have it both ways...you either want Fez involved (even when he is spouting whacky theories), or you don't. Hell, everything out of Dave's mouth is nonsensical babbling bullshit and we just love him for it.


Exactly.

Someone needs to be on one side of an argument, and someone needs to be on the other side.

That's how conversation works. It doesn't matter if Fez believes this or not. He needs to take one side so it's not just a group of people agreeing.

[3Setsof10]

I think the big issue that people have a problem with here is that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

Fez lives in a gigantic glass house

Tend to your own shit before you try and "help" others

[Melk]

He really should keep some things personal. I was cringing today when he bought up the Medical issue Casey has. I really wish I didn't know about it.
When you watch a TV drama and the same thing happens, the fans speculate on what it means to the big picture of the continuing story. Dave used to "keep it classy" now he talks about every detail of his life. If he is bothered he has a truth bomb in his back pocket he can drop at any time.

If anyone feels I have crossed the line in my posts, feel free to tell me.