Dave Matthews Band

[yojimbo7248]

I hate this band so much. Not only is it crappy music but there is something about Dave Matthews that I can't stand. I have read and seen interviews. I just heard his voice on a XM ad and I needed to get this off my chest.
Is there anything redeeming about this band? Am I missing something? I would join a flock of Parrotheads following Jimmy Buffett's Hard Rock Cafe tour rather than sitting through one Dave Matthews concert.

[JerseyRich]

But they're such good musicians maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

Fucking awful milquetoast music.

[~Katja~]

well don't turn on Jam On after June 1st then... they are taking over

[Aggie]

Leave Dave alone. I still like them. :flush:

I think it's more nostalgia for me because I got into them early in high school and my friends and I went to tons of his shows.

[grlNIN]

As soon as i saw this thread it made me think of seeing their song on some XM channel and thinking, "God, this has to be one of the most dated bands i've ever heard". I was going to start a thread about it & as soon as i saw this one it made me think of it again.

Yeah, they're terrible.

[Jujubees2]

Different strokes for different folks. I've been to a Dave concert (didn't care for it that much as the crowd was much younger than myself) and have some of his cds.

The cousin of a friend of mine gives swimming lessons and a few summers ago she was asked to go to this house in the Hamptons to give lessons to some kids. She shows up at the house and the people at the pool said to hold on, they would go get the owner. All of a sudden this guy walks out, extends his hand to my friend's cousin and says "Hi, my name is David. My friends call me Dave."

[Chip196]

I love Dave Matthews Band ... switching over to the new channel as soon as R&F are over.

[silks]

I never understood them. It also drives me fucking nuts when people refer to him / them as "Dave"

[Jujubees2]

I never understood them. It also drives me fucking nuts when people refer to him / them as "Dave"

Sorry.

[Aggie]

Sorry.

I think he meant me. DMB is worse than Dave though.

[JerseyRich]

BMD is better.

[oh_kee_pa]

much better band in the early 2000's... haven't gotten better but tried to progress...

the solo Dave album was awesome...
I will prob. check them out on there next tour just to see how the sound has changed since last year

[Aggie]

BMD is better.

I was going to make a Blind Man Drive joke but I still want you to be my friend.

[TheGameHHH]

I love Dave Matthews and his band. Y'all can kiss my butt you too cool for the room hipsters

[silks]

I think he meant me. DMB is worse than Dave though.

Maybe I was exaggerating a little, it doesn't drive me completely nuts, but it is up there with when people start using "we" and "our" when talking about their favorite sports team... i.e. "We really need to do something about our bullpen"

[paulisded]

I love Dave Matthews and his band. Y'all can kiss my butt you too cool for the room hipsters

Enough with the too cool for the room bullshit. Does it really matter if some people don't like what you like?

[~Katja~]

I love Dave Matthews and his band. Y'all can kiss my butt you too cool for the room hipsters


hmm, hipster ass... I'd kiss it

[TheGameHHH]

Enough with the too cool for the room bullshit. Does it really matter if some people don't like what you like?


Yes, it matters a lot

[paulisded]

Yes, it matters a lot

Why?

[KatPw]

I could never get into DMB, I associate them too much with preppy frat boys.

[silks]

I could never get into DMB, I associate them too much with preppy frat boys.

I think you need to go to a liberal arts school in Pennsylvania to truly appreciate them...

[TheGameHHH]

Why?


Because I carry massive amounts of hate in my heart for anybody that has a different opinion then I do. Especially when it comes to music and expressing opinions on an Internet message board

[paulisded]

Because I carry massive amounts of hate in my heart for anybody that has a different opinion then I do. Especially when it comes to music and expressing opinions on an Internet message board

Ok then.

[JerseyRich]

Enough with the too cool for the room bullshit. Does it really matter if some people don't like what you like?

The Replacements are terrible.

[TheGameHHH]

I think you need to go to a liberal arts school in Pennsylvania to truly appreciate them...



Funny, I did that and most people I knew there hated dave matthews

[KatPw]

I think you need to go to a liberal arts school in Pennsylvania to truly appreciate them...

Possibly.

[TheGameHHH]

hmm, hipster ass... I'd kiss it

My ass or the hipsters? Choose wisely

[yojimbo7248]

I could never get into DMB, I associate them too much with preppy frat boys.

I also picture preppy frat boys as the typical fan but, hey, I might be wrong.

I know I started this thread by saying how much I hate DMB but I am open to other opinions. I thought the Grateful Dead were shit until a fan played me some Europe '72 recordings and I changed my mind. Is there a good DMB bootleg that I should try? I prefer liking music to hating it and I am prepared to eat my words if there is some Dave Matthews Band music that doesn't make me want to vomit.

[Chigworthy]

When I hear "The Dave" or whatever, I marvel at the carney-esque way that lite jazz was marketed and sold to the fratland on such a scale. Go shit over a bridge, Dave.

[TheGameHHH]

I also picture preppy frat boys as the typical fan but, hey, I might be wrong.

I know I started this thread by saying how much I hate DMB but I am open to other opinions. I thought the Grateful Dead were shit until a fan played me some Europe '72 recordings and I admitted I changed my mind. Is there a good DMB bootleg that I should try. I prefer liking music to hating it and I am prepared to eat my words if there is some Dave Matthews Band music that doesn't make me want to vomit.

If you're serious about this I could probably find a show or two I think you'd dig. I'll try and find them and PM you tonight

[Chip196]

I also picture preppy frat boys as the typical fan but, hey, I might be wrong.

I know I started this thread by saying how much I hate DMB but I am open to other opinions. I thought the Grateful Dead were shit until a fan played me some Europe '72 recordings and I admitted I changed my mind. Is there a good DMB bootleg that I should try. I prefer liking music to hating it and I am prepared to eat my words if there is some Dave Matthews Band music that doesn't make me want to vomit.

you're not wrong about the typical fans ... I've seen 22 shows and will NEVER sit on the lawn because most (not all) fans on the lawn are young kids there to get fucked up first, see a show second. I did it once to save money and now if I can't get good seats (where you're still pressing your luck), I won't go.

If you're really interested, PM me and I will defintiely send you out some live stuff to check out.

[~Katja~]

My ass or the hipsters? Choose wisely
you have seen my recent posts... any ass really :down:




and to be somewhat on topic, I don't hate DMB... I do still like some of their songs, just would not buy albums or schlepp myself to concerts

[yojimbo7248]

If you're serious about this I could probably find a show or two I think you'd dig. I'll try and find them and PM you tonight

thanks, I appreciate it. yeah, seriously, I'd love to eat my words. I really do like early '70's Grateful Dead now. I discovered that phase of their career through someone calling bullshit when I said they suck.

I am on demonoid and could download something if you just point me in the right direction.

[TheMojoPin]

I liked them when I was in high school and they first came out, and then I outgrew them by the time I went off to college. I can't really say I actively "hate" the band: I just don't listen to them anymore and have no desire to do so. They're not really hard to avoid at this point, so it works out for everyone.

[paulisded]

you're not wrong about the typical fans ... I've seen 22 shows and will NEVER sit on the lawn because most (not all) fans on the lawn are young kids there to get fucked up first, see a show second. I did it once to save money and now if I can't get good seats (where you're still pressing your luck), I won't go.

If you're really interested, PM me and I will defintiely send you out some live stuff to check out.

One of my best friends saw Ozzfest and a DMB show at the same venue within the same week. She initially was a bigger DMB fan than an Ozzy fan, but the assholes at the Matthews show completely turned her off the band forever.

[Chip196]

One of my best friends saw Ozzfest and a DMB show at the same venue within the same week. She initially was a bigger DMB fan than an Ozzy fan, but the assholes at the Matthews show completely turned her off the band forever.

Part of me thinks it's a shame it's like that and wishes that they weren't there, but there wouldn't be a summer tour every year without them. They're Dave's bread and butter unfortunately.

[mikeyboy]

The Replacements are terrible.

Hurtful

[paulisded]

The Replacements are terrible.

You've just made me cry.

[~Katja~]

You've just made me cry.

I think he is too cool for the room...






oh wait a second...

[paulisded]

you have seen my recent posts... any ass really :down:



I'd like any band that would put me in that position!

I think he is too cool for the room...






oh wait a second...

Hahahahaha

[CruelCircus]

But they're such good musicians maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

I know, seriously! What a terrible reason to like a band- musicianship!

I don't really get Dave Matthews Band hate. I like them, and have seen them a bunch of times, most recently the first half of their Jazz Fest set in New Orleans. They frustrate me at times, though, b/c while it's nice that they have a different set list every night, sometimes it can lead to a stinker of a show if Dave's in a particularly down or reflective mood. The new sax player was absolutely terrific (coming from someone who played for 14 years), I've always liked the violin player, they had some local NO horns sit in, and Dave and Tim Reynolds work well together. With all the complaints today about electronic, over-produced music, and "bands" who don't play their own music, I would think a group of guys who play really well, change up their sets, improvise, and put on a good show would be welcome.

It's one thing if you're just not into that style of music. I'm not into death metal (sorry, Moe), opera, or gangsta rap, but I can't say I have an actual hatred for anyone who performs in those genres. It seems extreme to hate them, so the only reason I can come up with for it is because they're so popular, which is what leads to the "too cool for the room" comments. Sorry, paulisded, there is plenty of validity for that argument on this board.

Lastly, as a music fan, I think it's a pretty weak argument to judge a band's musical talent or validity based on who goes to the shows.

[frye hole]

"Dave Matthews Not That Into Himself Anymore"

link to story (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39670)

[yojimbo7248]

I know, seriously! What a terrible reason to like a band- musicianship!

I don't really get Dave Matthews Band hate. I like them, and have seen them a bunch of times, most recently the first half of their Jazz Fest set in New Orleans. They frustrate me at times, though, b/c while it's nice that they have a different set list every night, sometimes it can lead to a stinker of a show if Dave's in a particularly down or reflective mood. The new sax player was absolutely terrific (coming from someone who played for 14 years), I've always liked the violin player, they had some local NO horns sit in, and Dave and Tim Reynolds work well together. With all the complaints today about electronic, over-produced music, and "bands" who don't play their own music, I would think a group of guys who play really well, change up their sets, improvise, and put on a good show would be welcome.

It's one thing if you're just not into that style of music. I'm not into death metal (sorry, Moe), opera, or gangsta rap, but I can't say I have an actual hatred for anyone who performs in those genres. It seems extreme to hate them, so the only reason I can come up with for it is because they're so popular, which is what leads to the "too cool for the room" comments. Sorry, paulisded, there is plenty of validity for that argument on this board.

Lastly, as a music fan, I think it's a pretty weak argument to judge a band's musical talent or validity based on who goes to the shows.

I started this thread because I am curious about what you all think about band hatred. there are tons of bands I don't like but DMB really annoys me for some reason. to be honest, I don't know their music that well and am open to hearing recommended stuff. maybe it's just that I really can't stand East Coast idiot frat boys and I just picture DMB as their choice of music. Now I'm sure I will get the accusations of being too cool for the room because I avoid preppy frat boys.

[CruelCircus]

Ok, check out the album "Crash." It's 12 years old, but it's still my favorite. I haven't heard the new album yet, so I can't recommend anything off of it.

For individual tunes, I recommend:
"Too Much" and "Tripping Billies"
"Crush"
"Grey Street" and "Bartender"
"Ants Marching"
"#34" for change of pace


Others will recommend different tunes, I'm sure. I'm by no means an uber-fan.

[paulisded]

I know, seriously! What a terrible reason to like a band- musicianship!...Lastly, as a music fan, I think it's a pretty weak argument to judge a band's musical talent or validity based on who goes to the shows.

Sure, we've been tooling on their fans, but that really has nothing to do with the fact that I don't enjoy the band. Yes, they're great musicians, but quite often the best players make the most boring music. Take the 70's prog rock scene, or the 80's guitar shredders. I'd rather hear Keith Richard's relatively simple, riff-oriented playing than a 20 minute solo by anybody.

I tried to like DMB when they first appeared in the early 90's, as I had a lot of friends who enjoyed them, and I sold lots of their music at my record store. But I just could never get into them. But who cares? I may rant and rave about what I like or don't like, but it really doesn't matter if others agree with me. Different people have different tastes, and life would be really boring if we all liked the same thing.

[TheMojoPin]

Less is more.

Tighten that shit up, hippies.

[TobyWong]

I like how Dave Matthews dances. It's kind of cute and funny.

[hedges]

I crashed a DMB concert eleven years ago. It was sold out and only my two friends had tickets, and I think I was broke. When the band started I climbed a fence and dropped in. Then I ran across the lawn just in case security saw me, and I took off my shirt, and blended in. Thing is I don't remember any of the show cause I got too wasted. Brilliant, eh?

[FezsAssistant]

They are sooooo overrated.
I'm also tired of chubby chicks saying "listen to his poetry maaaaaaaaaan!"
Anyone could write those bullshit lyrics. Anyone.

[FezsAssistant]

Just b/c the drummer was ok, doesn't mean they're a band of virtuosi.

[silks]

If you think Dave Matthew's demographic is tough to deal with, you should go to an OAR concert.

Don't ask.

[ToiletCrusher]

If you think Dave Matthew's demographic is tough to deal with, you should go to an OAR concert.

Don't ask.

Done that, both at OU and OSU parties and after they became popular. Same fan base.

[SatCam]

sure the guy talks with a weird accent and some of his fans are douchebags and he does long solos during live shows.........


the music is still good tho. i listen strictly to his albums

[paulisded]

sure the guy talks with a weird accent and some of his fans are douchebags and he does long solos during live shows.........


the music is still good tho. i listen strictly to his albums

Great, enjoy yourself.

I don't enjoy their music so I won't.

[Ritalin]

I love Dave Matthews and his band. Y'all can kiss my butt you too cool for the room hipsters

The Yankees and Dave Matthews? Why not throw in the Cowboys, Notre Dame, slap on a pair of Crocs and call it a day.

Watch a Friends rerun or something. Wear chinos with pleats and drive a used Lexus.

Ah, I'm just busting chops.

[hydee]

I hate this band so much. Not only is it crappy music but there is something about Dave Matthews that I can't stand. I have read and seen interviews. I just heard his voice on a XM ad and I needed to get this off my chest.
Is there anything redeeming about this band? Am I missing something? I would join a flock of Parrotheads following Jimmy Buffett's Hard Rock Cafe tour rather than sitting through one Dave Matthews concert.

The thing you don't like about Dave Matthews is that he is as dumb as a tree stump. I loved him, and I mean loved him for a very long time, then I saw him on and episode of Politically Incorrect and he stuttered and stumbled and couldn't really get a coherent thought out of his face, and to make the whole thing worse was the subject was Farm Aid and other causes that he supports.

[TheGameHHH]

The Yankees and Dave Matthews? Why not throw in the Cowboys, Notre Dame, slap on a pair of Crocs and call it a day.

Watch a Friends rerun or something. Wear chinos with pleats and drive a used Lexus.

Ah, I'm just busting chops.

hey, i love Notre Dame......the rest sounds lame

[Sleeves]

I hate this band so much. Not only is it crappy music but there is something about Dave Matthews that I can't stand. I have read and seen interviews. I just heard his voice on a XM ad and I needed to get this off my chest.
Is there anything redeeming about this band? Am I missing something? I would join a flock of Parrotheads following Jimmy Buffett's Hard Rock Cafe tour rather than sitting through one Dave Matthews concert.

I think he writes great melodies... but maybe his voice bugs ya out? The sweet, mouth-jiggly way he sings? Kind of breathy, high, precious and tweety. It's also a bit of a muppet monster voice. Maybe it doesn't sound sincere to ya?

some of the pop songs with big horn parts drive me batty...

I think I'd slide Dave in with Huey Lewis...good drivin music and then all the sudden you whip it out the window... :) and then later kind of wish you still had it

do i need to clarify what's being whipped out the window or should I just make room for jokes

[~Katja~]

I think he writes great melodies... but maybe his voice bugs ya out? The sweet, mouth-jiggly way he sings? Kind of breathy, high, precious and tweety. It's also a bit of a muppet monster voice. Maybe it doesn't sound sincere to ya?

some of the pop songs with big horn parts drive me batty...

I think I'd slide Dave in with Huey Lewis...good drivin music and then all the sudden you whip it out the window... :) and then later kind of wish you still had it

do i need to clarify what's being whipped out the window or should I just make room for jokes

sounds like right out of Sam's mouth

[Gvac]

I hate this band so much. Not only is it crappy music but there is something about Dave Matthews that I can't stand. I have read and seen interviews. I just heard his voice on a XM ad and I needed to get this off my chest.
Is there anything redeeming about this band? Am I missing something? I would join a flock of Parrotheads following Jimmy Buffett's Hard Rock Cafe tour rather than sitting through one Dave Matthews concert.

I LOVE YOU MORE THAN EVER FOR POSTING THIS!!!

It's awful music and you're dead on when you compare his fans to modern day Parrotheads.

They're convinced they're somehow "In" on something the rest of us aren't getting, when in reality they're listening to shit.

[silks]

I heard one of their new songs on the radio driving home from work today.

It sucked.

[Gvac]

And someone should tell Dave that Paul Simon, Jim Croce, and James Taylor all did the I'm-a-sensitive-man-with-an-acoustic-guitar bit 35 years ago.

[Enabler]

Disc 2 of this album is all I can stomach. Its actually pretty fucking good. I could just never get into DMB. Their music has always seemed so pussy to me. I thinks its their lack of a true rockin lead guitarist.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii182/elevencc/LiveAtLutherCollege.jpg?t=1243561473

[TheGameHHH]

And someone should tell Dave that Paul Simon, Jim Croce, and James Taylor all did the I'm-a-sensitive-man-with-an-acoustic-guitar bit 35 years ago.

so every musician has to come up with a completely original schtick in order to make music? im not sure what youre saying here

[Gvac]

so every musician has to come up with a completely original schtick in order to make music? im not sure what youre saying here

I'm saying his entire act has been done to death already.

And done better.