Did I lose this bet on a technicality?

[fezident]

Here's (another!) simple betting situation at my day job that went horribly awry.

Okay:
I have a coworker (Paul) and I think he's 39 years old.
A fellow coworker (Jay) thinks Paul is 40.

I'm sure that I'm right. Jay is sure that he's right.

We made a bet:
"Paul is 39 years old. Not 40." We made it interesting, settled on amount, and shook hands.

DONE.
How can we prove it? Well... there's a chance that, when asked, Paul will lie about his age. Valid point. So I said to Jay "when we see Paul, we'll ask him to show us his driver's license. And his license will prove that he's 39 years old."

Jay accepts this proposal.

We go to Paul's office and ask to see his license. He says "I don't have a license, but I have my birth certificate. Here... take a look at it."

His birth certificate states that he's 39 years old.


Jay feels that he shouldn't have to to pay because Paulie didn't produce a "license". And that "the bet was that his license would state Paul's age."

I say; the physical document is not important. The bet was about his AGE, and the license was just a common, simple, "legal", way of proving that. A birth certificate is, without question, a perfectly legal & acceptable way of proving one's age. Granted... it's less common. Not many people carry it around, so I didn't think to say the word "birth certificate".
Jay maintains that he shouldn't have to pay out. (even though Paulie is not 40.)



Thoughts.

[Jujubees2]

You win.

[IMSlacker]

He's 39 years old and doesn't have a driver's license?

[ANC]

You win, but who the hell walks around with their birth certificate?




Someone who is worried about the INS that's who.

[BeerBandit]

The bet was on age, not on the type of proof.

Jay is a welcher.

[walking joint]

i would teach Paul how to drive before he turns 40.

[ANC]

He's 39 years old and doesn't have a driver's license?

Well if he lives in NYC, I can understand someone not having a license. If it's not practical to have a car in the city, why have a license.

[mikeyboy]

You win. Your co-worker is a weasal.

[BeerBandit]

He's 39 years old and doesn't have a driver's license?
My boss is in his mid 40s and doesn't have one. He lives in Queens. And buses it to Jersey.

[IMSlacker]

Well if he lives in NYC, I can understand someone not having a license. If it's not practical to have a car in the city, why have a license.

I'd think it would be good to have one just in case you ever wanted to travel.

[ANC]

I'd think it would be good to have one just in case you ever wanted to travel.

I agree totally, but I do know a few people who grew up in the city who never got a license.

[fezident]

$500

I'm so glad tomorrow is pay-day.


PS:
He had a license for most of his life. Had some kinda trouble with some unpaid tix. Lives and works in NYC, never bothered to clear it up. Yada yada yoda.

[ANC]

$500

I'm so glad tomorrow is pay-day.

:clap: If he doesn't pay up, cut off a finger.

[fezident]

:clap: If he doesn't pay up, cut off a finger.

I like where you're goin' with this but..... no go.
I'm using some of that money to buy new pickups for my Fender Pbass, and I'm giving Jay 40 bucks to install 'em.

I couldn't be happier.

[ANC]

I like where you're goin' with this but..... no go.
I'm using some of that money to buy new pickups for my Fender Pbass, and I'm giving Jay 40 bucks to install 'em.

I couldn't be happier.

Sweet!:thumbup:

[BeerBandit]

Do we get an Alliance fee? I mean we DID agree with you.

[topless_mike]

Well if he lives in NYC, I can understand someone not having a license. If it's not practical to have a car in the city, why have a license.

no license? ok... but at least a non-license photo id.

this guy is a schlep. seriously.

[topless_mike]

ps... what kind of baller are you that you bet $500 on a coworker's age?


1-800-Gambler

[IMSlacker]

ps... what kind of baller are you that you bet $500 on a coworker's age?


1-800-Gambler

Is that the number for a good bookie?

[ANC]

no license? ok... but at least a non-license photo id.

this guy is a schlep. seriously.

Ahhh yes I forgot about that, you are correct... I vote schelp x2

[Ritalin]

That Jay is an asshole.

You want I should help him find his wallet?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

you win and you're friend needs a frontal lobotomy

Birth Certificate trumps all

[EliSnow]

Assuming the facts you provided about how the bet was reached are accurate, you win.

And even common sense wise, who would ever make a bet that someone's license would say they are 40 years old?

[fezident]

ps... what kind of baller are you that you bet $500 on a coworker's age?


1-800-Gambler

So.... perhaps I shouldn't tell you about the time I bet 500 bucks on "whether or not the keyboard player from Danger Danger did or did not have a weird growth on his upper lip back in 1989"?

That was a sweet payday too.
One day... I'll lose. Today was not that day.

I seriously don't think I have a problem though. For real real.

[JPMNICK]

tell your friend not to make bets if he is going to be a dick and not pay up on bullshit like this.

You know who does those annoying things, addicts. You would say something like you drank 11 beers last night and they will say no and argue and then it comes out they drank 12 and they would say "well you said 11" I fucking hate stupid fake lawyer shit.

[Boogie in Va]

I'm giving Jay 40 bucks to install 'em.


Why not just give him 39?

[ANC]

Why not just give him 39?

:lol:

[topless_mike]

fezident,
if i may make a comment...

you really explained the situation well, including identifiying these cats by name.
made it easier to follow along.

job well done sir.

so, jay really only owes you 460, right ?

[fezident]

Why not just give him 39?

ZZZZzzing! :lol:


PS:
Thanx T-mike

[WampusCrandle]

You win and tell him to pay up or else .....

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/063P73bdGeewg/610x.jpg

[Gvac]

Jay sucks a big bag of dicks, and you can tell him I said so.

He's a welcher and a pussy.

If he doesn't pay up cut his brake lines.

Dirty fucker.

[cougarjake13]

bet was for age not proof


even if he doesnt drive you can get a non driving drivers license as a photo id

[fezident]

Paid in full with five crisp 100's.

[silks]

Paid in full with five crisp 100's.

Good thing, any longer and the hired goons would have had to have been called in.

[fezident]

Good thing, any longer and the hired goons would have had to have been called in.

HIRED?
I dunno about that. Gvac and Ritalin seemed kinda eager to do it for free. :wink:

[KingModem]

I thought Paulisded?