Black men for the Rebel Flag

[Cyber Trucker]

I called the show today about the Rebel flag issue Fez was talking about. As a black man I'm proud of that flag ant it's history. Fez stop fighting the black mans fight and fight coming to grips with the secret you have. Here a short read about some more brothers for the flag to. P.S. I'm a nascar, nrha, and overall car fan and drag racer. See you slow tricks at Norwalk Raceway for Fun Ford Weekend

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Source: The Sun Herald, June 22, 2000
For an hour, the Confederate battle flag flew over the former site of the Eight Flags Display on U.S. 90.

Dressed in Confederate gray, a black man named Anthony Hervey marched with the banner clutched in his hands. His brother, Harry, accompanied him, wearing jeans and a Robert E. Lee T-shirt.

Hervey's devotion to the flag began when he discovered that a great-great-uncle, James Hervey, was a black American who fought for the Confederacy during the American Civil War. James Hervey served in the Army of Mississippi and was killed at the battle of Shiloh.

Further research helped Hervey discover records of at least 100,000 black Confederates who fought in the war.

"I am marching for freedom," Hervey said. "The battle flag stands for freedom and states' rights. The U.S. flag is the flag of slavery. It flew over 100 years of slavery, and Native Americans were annihilated under that flag."

For his march, Hervey chose the site where a Confederate flag once stood, one of eight representing entities that have governed the Coast. Harrison County removed the flags because of protests over the Confederate flag, a racist symbol to many, flying on the public beach.

Hervey's crusade also has taken him to Jackson. In the Jackson City Council chambers June 13, Hervey showed up wearing his battle grays, wrapped in the flag. A scuffle erupted between a Jackson man, who said he supported Hervey, and a city councilman who exchanged words, according to published reports. Hervey was not involved in the shoving match.

Hervey sees a correlation between the past and today's controversies over the flag.

"We currently live under a psychological form of reconstruction," he said. "Whites are made to feel guilty for sins of their ancestors, and blacks are made to feel downtrodden. This keeps all of us from communicating. The political correctness of today is killing the pride of the people."

Hervey is the founder of the Black Confederate Soldier Foundation, an Oxford-based, not-for-profit organization. Its stated mission is to foster new thought on the Civil War. Claims that the Confederate flag is a racist symbol are, to the group, part of a nonissue. Black Confederates, the group says, have been misrepresented in historical texts.

Hervey wants to build a memorial that will include the names of the black Confederates who fought and died in the War Between the States.

As the Hervey brothers continued their march, shouts of support and anger could be heard from passing motorists. A group of young black men hanging from car windows shouted at the pair. Hervey instructed his brother to look forward "like a true soldier."

"Don't even look at them," Hervey said, citing the young men's behavior as an example of black psychology today.

"They will yell a lot and want you to confront them, but they will not do anything," Hervey said.

"I found it appalling what happened in South Carolina, and I'm afraid this is going to happen in Mississippi." Hervey said. "We seek only to correct the errors in history - to right the wrongs done to the memories of these brave soldiers.

Source: The Sun Herald, June 22, 2000

[Gvac]

Rock on, my brothers!

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[ToiletCrusher]

yes.

[IamFogHat]

I used to have a black friend who wore t-shirts with the confederate flag on it and it always confused us. Then again he was mixed race and called himself a 'halfrican' so who knows.

[Gvac]

To be serious for a moment, for every Native American tribe that balks at sports teams being named after them you can find another one that enjoys it and views it as a tribute.

For every scientist who claims that global warming is a result of man and our machines, you can find one who believes that to be poppycock.

Apparently there are black Americans who don't view the Confederate flag as a symbol of slavery and hatred as well.

It's the old "two sides to every story" and it rings true in almost every case, but usually the news media runs with the one that will stir up the most passion, or in the case of the NASCAR/Confederate Flag controversy, the side that's backed by a huge organization, such as the NAACP.

[HBox]

To be serious for a moment, for every Native American tribe that balks at sports teams being named after them you can find another one that enjoys it and views it as a tribute.

For every scientist who claims that global warming is a result of man and our machines, you can find one who believes that to be poppycock.

Apparently there are black Americans who don't view the Confederate flag as a symbol of slavery and hatred as well.

It's the old "two sides to every story" and it rings true in almost every case, but usually the news media runs with the one that will stir up the most passion, or in the case of the NASCAR/Confederate Flag controversy, the side that's backed by a huge organization, such as the NAACP.

Just because there are two sides to an argument doesn't make them equally right.

[Gvac]

Just because there are two sides to an argument doesn't make them equally right.

And who is the final arbiter of which side is "right?"

You?

[ToiletCrusher]

And who is the final arbiter of which side is "right?"

You?

me.

[HBox]

And who is the final arbiter of which side is "right?"

You?

There is no final arbiter. But just because somebody has an argument doesn't mean they are right. There have been some evil people in history who can make a hell of an argument. Doesn't make them right.

And for one of your examples we will find out definitely who is right or wrong about global warming in time. But the people who don't believe it's happening are a very small minority. Very very small.

[Gvac]

There is no final arbiter. But just because somebody has an argument doesn't mean they are right. There have been some evil people in history who can make a hell of an argument. Doesn't make them right.

And for one of your examples we will find out definitely who is right or wrong about global warming in time. But the people who don't believe it's happening are a very small minority. Very very small.

I didn't say people believe it's not happening. I said those who believe global warming is caused by man.

Don't be so reactionary.

And "right" and "wrong" aren't always completely black and white.

Unless you're reactionary.

[Contra]

Now I've seen everything

[Cyber Trucker]

To be serious for a moment, for every Native American tribe that balks at sports teams being named after them you can find another one that enjoys it and views it as a tribute.

For every scientist who claims that global warming is a result of man and our machines, you can find one who believes that to be poppycock.

Apparently there are black Americans who don't view the Confederate flag as a symbol of slavery and hatred as well.

It's the old "two sides to every story" and it rings true in almost every case, but usually the news media runs with the one that will stir up the most passion, or in the case of the NASCAR/Confederate Flag controversy, the side that's backed by a huge organization, such as the NAACP.


Fuck the NAACP & Al Sharpton they was good back when there was a lot to fight for now that there's not as much to fight for they have to prove there exsenstance.:nono:

[Cyber Trucker]

I used to have a black friend who wore t-shirts with the confederate flag on it and it always confused us. Then again he was mixed race and called himself a 'halfrican' so who knows.

We call them Niggonkys :smoke:

[biozombie]

We call them Niggonkys :smoke:

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:bye:

[Cyber Trucker]

sorry

[biozombie]

sorry

I'm just messin' with ya, sweetiepie.

[Cyber Trucker]

ok

[The Ogre]

We call them Niggonkys :smoke:

Well shit, how could anyone not take you seriously now? There's no way I'd think you're a self hating brother who goes along with racist lines of thinking because you're involved in a profession filled with ignorant motherfuckers. Is it a self defense mechanism or are you just ashamed of what you are?

[Cyber Trucker]

Well shit, how could anyone not take you seriously now? There's no way I'd think you're a self hating brother who goes along with racist lines of thinking because you're involved in a profession filled with ignorant motherfuckers. Is it a self defense mechanism or are you just ashamed of what you are?

Hey ass that's a joke. I'm not one of these P.C. motherfuckers, if you like to make a off color joke go for i, and no I'm not self hating.:furious:

[Cyber Trucker]

Rock on, my brothers!

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I'm down with you. I want to find a Honky Tonk and rock out.:drunk:

[The Ogre]

Hey ass that's a joke. I'm not one of these P.C. motherfuckers, if you like to make a off color joke go for i, and no I'm not self hating.:furious:

I don't give a fuck what you think is a joke. "Not being PC" seems to be the clarion call for anybody to make any kind of asshole comment with pride. Off color jokes are only jokes if there's humor involved cousin. Combining nigger and honky to describe somebody of mixed race? Explain the funny part to me.

[Cyber Trucker]

I don't give a fuck what you think is a joke. "Not being PC" seems to be the clarion call for anybody to make any kind of asshole comment with pride. Off color jokes are only jokes if there's humor involved cousin. Combining nigger and honky to describe somebody of mixed race? Explain the funny part to me.

Nigger+Honky=Funny You sound like a person that looks around before they tell a off color joke, and if I offended you get over it.

[The Ogre]

Nigger+Honky=Funny You sound like a person that looks around before they tell a off color joke, and if I offended you get over it.

Fuck what I sound like. You sound like the kind of coward who takes up the battle for the flag of slavery and tells racial jokes so you can fit in with the hillbillies at the truck stop instead of standing up as a black man.

I don't worry about shit when it comes to off color jokes. But there's a lot of people I met who didn't know my mother's black who really fucking regret being ignorant around me and expecting me to laugh along with them instead of the reaction they got.

But fuck any kind of common sense right? Go right on back to waving the stars and bars.

[Cyber Trucker]

Fuck what I sound like. You sound like the kind of coward who takes up the battle for the flag of slavery and tells racial jokes so you can fit in with the hillbillies at the truck stop instead of standing up as a black man.

I don't worry about shit when it comes to off color jokes. But there's a lot of people I met who didn't know my mother's black who really fucking regret being ignorant around me and expecting me to laugh along with them instead of the reaction they got.

But fuck any kind of common sense right? Go right on back to waving the stars and bars.

Oh I get it you found it offensive because you are half black and half white...........so we can make fun of black people or white or gay ect but when we hit something your way you get mad fuck you. You sound like Al Sharpton now. Hey do you think it's funny when Ronnie makes the "other side of the track" joke? Pull the stick out of your ass.

[TripleSkeet]

Fuck what I sound like. You sound like the kind of coward who takes up the battle for the flag of slavery and tells racial jokes so you can fit in with the hillbillies at the truck stop instead of standing up as a black man.

I don't worry about shit when it comes to off color jokes. But there's a lot of people I met who didn't know my mother's black who really fucking regret being ignorant around me and expecting me to laugh along with them instead of the reaction they got.

But fuck any kind of common sense right? Go right on back to waving the stars and bars.

I think youre a fucking idiot.

Let me ask you, what part of Niggonky pissed you off? The Nigg or the Onky?

I thought it was a joke basically taking a made up word to describe 2 races and making up a new word that described those two races in a racist term. Jokes are so much funnier when you have to explain them.

Lighten up Francis.

[Cyber Trucker]

I think youre a fucking idiot.

Let me ask you, what part of Niggonky pissed you off? The Nigg or the Onky?

I thought it was a joke basically taking a made up word to describe 2 races and making up a new word that described those two races in a racist term. Jokes are so much funnier when you have to explain them.

Lighten up Francis.

Thank you . I like to see some people thinks I'm funny.:tongue:

[TripleSkeet]

Thank you . I like to see some people thinks I'm funny.:tongue:

Lets not get carried away. I never said it was a good joke. ;)

[Cyber Trucker]

Lets not get carried away. I never said it was a good joke. ;)
Hey I tryed:innocent:

[TheMojoPin]

Everyone take a step back.

Ditch the personal attacks.

[The Happening]

White people are always good for making something out of nothing. The Rebel Flag is NOT a race thing for most people from the south. It's the equivalent of an "I love New York" T-shirt to them. But hey, we will still read about white people in both the north and west coast who are "outraged" by it. Gotta love phony outrage! Whenever racial commotion is made by a minority over something they view as racist, it's usually started by some white person who pointed it out because they were "outraged" by it first.

[Sinestro]

Everyone forgets that there was slavery in the North also while the Civil War was happening. And that the Emancipation Proclamation initially freed the Slaves in the South. It wasn't after that it applied to the North as well as slavery was abolished as a whole. But that's how revisionists see history- that it was a fight for slavery instead of different demographics such as Argiculture vs. Industrialism, Northern Elitism vs. Southern Hospitality, Voice in Government based on population (hence the 7:1 ration in the south to equal the vast population in the North).

[TheMojoPin]

Everyone forgets that there was slavery in the North also while the Civil War was happening. And that the Emancipation Proclamation initially freed the Slaves in the South. It wasn't after that it applied to the North as well as slavery was abolished as a whole. But that's how revisionists see history- that it was a fight for slavery instead of different demographics such as Argiculture vs. Industrialism, Northern Elitism vs. Southern Hospitality, Voice in Government based on population (hence the 7:1 ration in the south to equal the vast population in the North).

I think this post just caused a hundred history teachers to drop dead.

[IamFogHat]

Thank you . I like to see some people thinks I'm funny.:tongue:

I don't think you're black anymore, and I'm just a dumb guy on the internet, but this post throws me into retalitarian mode with the awful, unnatural grammar. Just puting it out there, I might be wrong but just saying.

[Sinestro]

I think this post just caused a hundred history teachers to drop dead.

It's on the internet so it must be true.

[TheMojoPin]

It's on the internet so it must be true.

Dammit, nobody can beat that.

[HBox]

Everyone who has looked into it knows that the Civil War was fought over maritime fishing regulations.

[biozombie]

Everything I need to know about the Civil War is in that shitty Guns 'n Roses song.

"What's so civil about war anyway?"

[HBox]

Everything I need to know about the Civil War is in that shitty Guns 'n Roses song.

"What's so civil about war anyway?"

And what is it good for? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! GOOD GAWD!

[Cyber Trucker]

I don't think you're black anymore, and I'm just a dumb guy on the internet, but this post throws me into retalitarian mode with the awful, unnatural grammar. Just puting it out there, I might be wrong but just saying.

MY Bad:help:

[The Happening]

The Civil War was about one thing: Fat Chicks!

[The Ogre]

I think youre a fucking idiot.

Let me ask you, what part of Niggonky pissed you off? The Nigg or the Onky?

I thought it was a joke basically taking a made up word to describe 2 races and making up a new word that described those two races in a racist term. Jokes are so much funnier when you have to explain them.

Lighten up Francis.

Coming from a piece of garbage who used racial slurs over something as trivial as a fucking sports team, your judgement doesn't mean shit to me. And of course your ignorant ass would think that something as base as combining two slurs into one is the height of comedy. If I'm a fucking idiot, you are the world champion dunce of the year. And my point stands. It's probably out of cowardice that the other guy would even make jokes like that. I'm sure you suffer from the same type of cowardice that makes him want to fit in with the trash at the truck stop. In your case it puffs you up into an online racist when you know full fucking well that you would never say the shit you did on the internet if you were standing on Broad St in Trenton.

[TheMojoPin]

Enough.