NYPD Officer Killed...

[Freitag]

...by another NYPD officer.

http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/longisland/ny-nycop3012820171may29,0,895793.story

It's a very sad story. I wonder what kind of details will come out in the coming days. Hopefully, this isn't a situation like the BART officer in San Francisco.

RIP Officer Edwards.

[Crispy123]

Thats sucks hard from every angle.

[topless_mike]

bummer yo.

[Aggie]

Tragic.

[joeybags]

why do they have to go straight to the racism angle? can't it just be a tragic accident?

[Furtherman]

why do they have to go straight to the racism angle? can't it just be a tragic accident?

Agreed. Newsday scumbags.

[Freitag]

why do they have to go straight to the racism angle? can't it just be a tragic accident?

Yeah, I noticed that too. They didn't even bother to explain in-depth what happened before pulling that out.

[badorties]

why do they have to go straight to the racism angle? can't it just be a tragic accident?

it should just stay at the tragic level -- but a white cop fatally shooting a young black male in east harlem will probably become a very big deal

[Freitag]

it should just stay at the tragic level -- but a white cop fatally shooting a young black male in east harlem will probably become a very big deal

I don't know all the particulars, but it's not racism when you see someone running at full speed with a gun drawn in a high-crime area who is not easily identifiable as a police officer.

[Furtherman]

This happened on The Wire.

[badorties]

I don't know all the particulars, but it's not racism when you see someone running at full speed with a gun drawn in a high-crime area who is not easily identifiable as a police officer.

for the press and community leaders, the facts might not matter as much as the sexier, social implications


This happened on The Wire.

poor prez, i wonder if he ever enjoyed chinese food again after that night

[Freitag]

for the press and community leaders, the facts might not matter as much as the sexier, social implications



Press, yes. "Community leaders" won't get involved because it was cop vs. cop. If it was cop vs. civilian, then they would be there, but I think this is strictly a police, and a not a "community" matter.

If the facts are as legit as they seem in the story - gun out, no badge... there's nothing people can say really that the cop did "wrong" except for being overzealous.

HOWEVER...

if stories change or the facts don't add up, then I could see big issues arising.

[topless_mike]

Press, yes. "Community leaders" won't get involved because it was cop vs. cop. If it was cop vs. civilian, then they would be there, but I think this is strictly a police, and a not a "community" matter.

If the facts are as legit as they seem in the story - gun out, no badge... there's nothing people can say really that the cop did "wrong" except for being overzealous.

HOWEVER...

if stories change or the facts don't add up, then I could see big issues arising.

i have to agree with you.
odd that with gun out, no badge... at least id yourself... badge number, precinct, something.

then again... somebody's got their gun out means they will use it if they need to. cant say that i'd be rational in that situation, either.

CTC, your thoughts?

[Contra]

He won't comment until this reaches two pages.

[Freitag]

Is it standard police procedure to chase after a robbery suspect with your gun out if the suspect hasn't shown a weapon? I mean, it sounds like it's something you'd see in a movie, but not in real life - surely there are rules and regulations for chasing after a suspect, especially a non-violent one.


Then again, since the officer was off duty and in plain clothes, perhaps he didn't have anywhere to put is gun (no holster)

This article has some more information:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/05/29/2009-05-29_police_review_tapes_.html

And I was wrong, Sharpton is involved, but it looks like he's just offering soundbites, no protests or marches or anything.

[The Jays]

why do they have to go straight to the racism angle? can't it just be a tragic accident?

Yeah, seriously, why does it have to be like this? Newsday and the Staten Island Advance, they both always go straight to the racist shit, like accidents never happen, or there just has to be a reason for bad shit to happen. If a black man was impaled by a thresher, they'd find someway to pin it on a white man.

[SatCam]

Is it standard police procedure to chase after a robbery suspect with your gun out if the suspect hasn't shown a weapon? I mean, it sounds like it's something you'd see in a movie, but not in real life - surely there are rules and regulations for chasing after a suspect, especially a non-violent one..

Probably not, but the dude broke into the cop's car. I'd be pissed

[TheMojoPin]

If this thread were about that one cop shooting the other cop it would be 748 pages long.

[Serpico1103]

Probably a tragic accident. Police are not trained enough to deal with these situations, no police force is. Only Rangers and Seals probably train enough to overcome the adrenaline rush of that situation.
However, this is a perfect example of why pro-gun people have no concept of urban life. This would happen everyday is citizens were armed. They would feel empowered to act, but lack training or ability to deal with these situations. A gun to protect your house is fine, a gun to protect yourself on the street is nothing but bravado.

Sharpton will do the job that corporate media has given him; to stir up race issues. But, no one with any sense will buy it.