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sr71blackbird
05-29-2009, 03:56 PM
I guess we do not know the full details of what happened here, but on the face of it, I would assume these police are being overly aggressive. I know they face all kinds of shit on a daily basis, but it is a freaking ambulance.
I dont see why they needed to grab the EMT by the neck like this either. I can understand why the EMT would be upset.
This happened in Oklahoma.
Is this over reacting on anyones part as far as you can tell from this one sided video?

Again, I know nothing of what condition this guys mother is in or the true nature of the emergency, but I always assume that an ambulance has the authority to speed if needed.

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OGC
05-29-2009, 04:10 PM
I only caught part of the story on the news but I was under the impression that they pulled over the ambulance because it didn't yield the right of way to a police car (or cars) responding to a call.

The police are saying that the ambulance driver assaulted them when he got out of his vehicle.

I'm sure we'll be hearing more about this one.

The Jays
05-29-2009, 04:17 PM
I'd say the police are so fucking wrong about this. First, if I was the EMT, I wouldn't even pull the fuck over. I'd settle it when they got to the hospital. Second, right of way or not, if there's a fucking ambulance with its lights on, that always has the right of fucking way, because you do not know if the person in the back is in trouble, but you need to assume they need to be at the hospital ASAP. Third, the cops should have not grab that guy's fingers, and started choking him out. They shouldn't even had arrested him right there and then, as they're arresting him, who the fuck is going to take the ambulance to the hospital?

These cops are so in the wrong, it's not even funny. Hello lawsuit, goodbye badge.

styckx
05-29-2009, 04:46 PM
The traffic stop, meh, could go either way. We have no idea how close he put anyone into danger.

Secondly, there is a huge portion of that clip where the camera is pointed down and just at the ambulance, then all of a sudden after 10 seconds of seeing nothing we suddenly see another officer isaying the EMT is under arrested now.

Who knows what happened in that gap of time where the camera wasn't pointed at anyone.

You think an officer just wants to arrest a driver(an EMT for that matter) for failing to yield? Doubtful. He's more than likely guilty of simple assault of an officer or something.

edit: Story. As I said..

Highway Patrol troopers and a paramedic nearly come to blows while a patient waits to be taken to the hospital. The encounter was caught on a cellphone camera by Kenyada Davis, the son of the patient in the ambulance.

The incident started when the ambulance failed to yield to state troopers en route to a call. Davis says the ambulance driver was trying to avoid hitting a car that slowed down and wasn't aware that troopers were nearby until it was too late.

After the troopers finished their official business, they pulled the ambulance over. A struggle ensued as they tried to arrest the driver.

According to the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, the paramedics assaulted the trooper just before the fight broke out.

The Okfuskee County District Attorney's Office is reviewing footage and could file criminal charges against the paramedic by the end of the week.

ChrisTheCop
05-29-2009, 04:54 PM
Finally a story I can comment on.

But I can't view the video til I get home.

Stay tuned...

DarkHippie
05-29-2009, 05:27 PM
Don't understand why troopers have right of way over an ambulance. wouldn't they be equal? And isn't pulling the ambulance over endangering the life of the sick guy in the back?

sr71blackbird
05-29-2009, 05:40 PM
Well, apparently, like I suspected there is more to the story than meets the eye. I am not anti cop by the way. I just did not see that the cops aggresion was justified by the videos persoective. If my mom was in the ambulance, I don't think I would be thinking of filming anything, I think I would be concentrating on getting the ambulance moving.

DarkHippie
05-29-2009, 05:55 PM
Well, apparently, like I suspected there is more to the story than meets the eye. I am not anti cop by the way. I just did not see that the cops aggresion was justified by the videos persoective. If my mom was in the ambulance, I don't think I would be thinking of filming anything, I think I would be concentrating on getting the ambulance moving.

i dont understand why he didnt bust the emt after the ambulance got to the hospital instead.

IamFogHat
05-29-2009, 06:00 PM
"Where are you from?"
"Oklahoma."
"Ohhhhhhhh."

Sarge
05-29-2009, 06:08 PM
Obviously I wasn't there and am going completely off of the video so I don't know what the ambulance did to get pulled over. First, it appeared one troopers of the explained what was going on to another member of the ambulance crew before the confrontation. Second, the crew member who ended up in the confrontation was told twice that he was under arrest before the incident happened. When the trooper attempted to cuff him, he spun and resisted arrest. He wasn't beaten, he wasn't slammed to the ground, the troopers controlled him by putting him up against the rig. I don't know about the choke hold, they might be allowed to use something like that. After all of this, they again appear to explain what was going on, and let the crew member back in the rig and continue the transport to the hospital where I can only guess he was later arrested. I give the guy with the camera alot of credit, he has the right to video the incident, and he stayed out of the way and didn't get involved even though his mom was in the back of the rig.

lleeder
05-29-2009, 06:21 PM
That video took forever to get interesting. I bailed after 15 seconds.

Serpico1103
05-29-2009, 06:24 PM
i dont understand why he didnt bust the emt after the ambulance got to the hospital instead.

The EMT should have safely proceeded to the hospital if that was necessary. However, if the EMT was so concerned with his passenger he wouldn't have resisted arrest. I don't understand where people get the idea that you can resist. Whether the underlying offense is legitimate or not, resisting is still a crime. "Yes, sir," the cop to death.

cougarjake13
05-29-2009, 06:59 PM
if he didnt yield to the cops who were alledgelly responding to a call how the hell did they have time to pull the ambulance over ??

ChrisTheCop
05-29-2009, 10:32 PM
if he didnt yield to the cops who were allegedly responding to a call how the hell did they have time to pull the ambulance over ??

It says in the story the cops pulled the ambulance over after they handled their official business. Dunno how long there was between the initial incident and the stop.

General rule, for me personally and others I've worked with, is you cut emts some slack because if you get hurt, theyre the ones who are coming to help. However, I can remember several instances of firefighters being arrested at active scenes.

This video really shows nothing, other than the cops wanted to arrest the ambulance driver; okayyy...and? In NYC, choke holds are illegal (Livoti Rule), but I'm certain theyre still ok across the country. And yes, the emt resisted the arrest... I'd say the cops showed restraint, maybe because it was an emt or maybe because they knew they were on video... but I guarantee any other suspect that week who did what he did got a crack in the skull. Although it says that the DA may press charges against the emt, I'll guess the police chief will call the fire chief and settle this with a good old fashioned arm wrestle.

The funniest part of the video is when the videographer 'threatens' "I'm gonna get your car number!" then walks all the way around the car only to find there is no car number...so he says, "got your tags!" One for fail blog.