Segregated Proms?

[Suspect Chin]

Some South Georgia High School is holding segregated proms for its black and white students. Is it such a big deal? If it works for the students and families, why does the media have to get involved to try to change things?

http://livesteez.com/news/read/Segregated-Proms-for-Black-and-White-Students-in-the-Deep-South/1938.html

[brettmojo]

Some South Georgia High School is holding segregated proms for its black and white students. Is it such a big deal? If it works for the students and families, why does the media have to get involved to try to change things?

http://livesteez.com/news/read/Segregated-Proms-for-Black-and-White-Students-in-the-Deep-South/1938.html
Because everyone else knows what's better for everyone else. Duh.

[MacVittie]

Just read the article... I think its creepier that they have a father-daughter dance at a high school prom.

[weekapaugjz]

Because everyone else knows what's better for everyone else. Duh.

winner!

[Shane Peterson]

Why not just call them the country from and the hip hop prom and allow students to go to either or both regardless of what color they are?

[britneypablo]

<font color="deeppink"> would it be bad for me to say YYEEEHHHAAWWWW !!!!:clap:

[Serpico1103]

Some South Georgia High School is holding segregated proms for its black and white students. Is it such a big deal? If it works for the students and families, why does the media have to get involved to try to change things?

http://livesteez.com/news/read/Segregated-Proms-for-Black-and-White-Students-in-the-Deep-South/1938.html

Why should the media publish the news? Is that your question?
It is not up to the students or the families. Racially segregation should never be tolerated, let alone promoted by a government institution, i.e. schools.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

“It’s how it’s always been,” he says. “It’s just a tradition.”

Way to move forward crakka ass bigots. Sometimes I am ashamed to share your pigment.

[furie]

i didn't think schools did proms anymore.
i know there are a lot of liability and insurance issues these days.


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[Suspect Chin]

Why should the media publish the news? Is that your question?
It is not up to the students or the families. Racially segregation should never be tolerated, let alone promoted by a government institution, i.e. schools.

The media doesn't just publish they news, they find situations they want changed and push for the change. If you read the article, the proms aren't school sponsored, they are organized by the students. My thought is that people should be able to remain segregated if they so choose without the media there to shed light on an event or segment of society they want normalized.

[MacVittie]

Why not just call them the country from and the hip hop prom and allow students to go to either or both regardless of what color they are?

Because the white dads can't tolerate the idea that their little daughter might share a dance with a young negro.

[weekapaugjz]

Because the white dads can't tolerate the idea that their little daughter might share a dance with a young negro.

or a "good night kiss".

[brettmojo]

The media doesn't just publish they news, they find situations they want changed and push for the change. If you read the article, the proms aren't school sponsored, they are organized by the students. My thought is that people should be able to remain segregated if they so choose without the media there to shed light on an event or segment of society they want normalized.
What are you crazy? That would suggest we live in a free society where we are allowed to live our lives without every little part of it being controlled by someone else.

[Suspect Chin]

“It’s how it’s always been,” he says. “It’s just a tradition.”

Way to move forward crakka ass bigots. Sometimes I am ashamed to share your pigment.

Who says anyone has to "move forward" in order to conform to your standards for society? Why can't there still be parts of the country that don't want to be like the east and west coasts?

[Gvac]

Because the white dads can't tolerate the idea that their little daughter might share a dance with a young negro.

or a "good night kiss".

Could you? :ohmy:

[Fez4PrezN2008]

Who says anyone has to "move forward" in order to conform to your standards for society? Why can't there still be parts of the country that don't want to be like the east and west coasts?
As long as you take Shirley Phelps Roper and her clan then fine, just be sure to close the door on this little utopia when ya'll gather.

[Suspect Chin]

As long as you take Shirley Phelps Roper and her clan then fine, just be sure to close the door on this little utopia when ya'll gather.

There is a big difference between SPR and her obvious hate for other races and two races that have mutually agreed to separate their proms.

[SatCam]

Why not just call them the country from and the hip hop prom and allow students to go to either or both regardless of what color they are?

haha that is a good idea

[MacVittie]

Could you? :ohmy:

Depends. No father would want to see their daughter with Earl Douglas.

[Suspect Chin]

As long as you take Shirley Phelps Roper and her clan then fine, just be sure to close the door on this little utopia when ya'll gather.

How about your utopia where all races intermingle in all situations and act like there are no differences between them?

Let's face it, there are differences between the races, and for the most part, members of each race feel more comfortable in the company of their particular race. What is so bigoted about that? It does not make you a racist because you prefer the company of your own race.

[underdog]

At least they let the black students call their dance a "prom" as well.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

How about your utopia where all races intermingle in all situations and act like there are no differences between them?

Let's face it, there are differences between the races, and for the most part, members of each race feel more comfortable in the company of their particular race. What is so bigoted about that? It does not make you a racist because you prefer the company of your own race.
You asked, I answered. We both have different opinions. No need to go all Gvac :laugh:

[SatCam]

How about your utopia where all races intermingle in all situations and act like there are no differences between them?

Let's face it, there are differences between the races, and for the most part, members of each race feel more comfortable in the company of their particular race. What is so bigoted about that? It does not make you a racist because you prefer the company of your own race.

Well you are right and wrong. There are physical differences between races but they are no different than someone with brown hair vs. someone with blonde hair. Other differences are cultural, which really exist because of segregation. There are differences between races, but my dad is irish and my mom is italian and that never stopped them from banging.


The real losers here are the kids. They are being brought up in a shitty enviroment and I would not be at all surprised if the kids themselves support the separate proms only because the white parents brought their kids up to hate the black kids and vice versa.

[Suspect Chin]

You asked, I answered. We both have different opinions. No need to go all Gvac :laugh:

You mean we can agree to disagree? Call CNN.

[SatCam]

At least they let the black students call their dance a "prom" as well.

I hear the white kids are going to have Prom King and Queen and the black kids are going to have Prom Pimp and Ho

[MacVittie]

How about your utopia where all races intermingle in all situations and act like there are no differences between them?

Let's face it, there are differences between the races, and for the most part, members of each race feel more comfortable in the company of their particular race. What is so bigoted about that? It does not make you a racist because you prefer the company of your own race.

Sure, but it seems like here that the students want a mixed prom. They prefer the company of their friends, who may belong to either of the two races in question.

[Suspect Chin]

Well you are right and wrong. There are physical differences between races but they are no different than someone with brown hair vs. someone with blonde hair. Other differences are cultural, which really exist because of segregation. There are differences between races, but my dad is irish and my mom is italian and that never stopped them from banging.


How can you say that the only cultural differences are because of segregation? Look back at the segregated years, nearly everything about the two races is identical: fashions, dialects, family structures, etc. It was not until after segregation ended that the two races diverged culturally. Now, 30 years later, the races could not be any further separated culturally.

[Drunky McBetidont]

How can you say that the only cultural differences are because of segregation? Look back at the segregated years, nearly everything about the two races is identical: fashions, dialects, family structures, etc. It was not until after segregation ended that the two races diverged culturally. Now, 30 years later, the races could not be any further separated culturally.

so... white or black? which is better?

[weekapaugjz]

http://www.tonyrogers.com/humor/ghettoprom/ghetto_prom5.jpg

[SatCam]

How can you say that the only cultural differences are because of segregation? Look back at the segregated years, nearly everything about the two races is identical: fashions, dialects, family structures, etc. It was not until after segregation ended that the two races diverged culturally. Now, 30 years later, the races could not be any further separated culturally.

I may not be right, but your argument really doesnt prove anything. Once blacks were no longer oppressed could you blame them for wanted to disassociate themselves with their oppressors?

[Suspect Chin]

so... white or black? which is better?

Better at what?

[Drunky McBetidont]

http://www.tonyrogers.com/humor/ghettoprom/ghetto_prom5.jpg

the happy trail goes both ways!:thumbup:

[O&A Sycophant #155]

How about your utopia where all races intermingle in all situations and act like there are no differences between them?

Let's face it, there are differences between the races, and for the most part, members of each race feel more comfortable in the company of their particular race. What is so bigoted about that? It does not make you a racist because you prefer the company of your own race.

stop stealing my bit

[KatPw]

How about your utopia where all races intermingle in all situations and act like there are no differences between them?

Let's face it, there are differences between the races, and for the most part, members of each race feel more comfortable in the company of their particular race. What is so bigoted about that? It does not make you a racist because you prefer the company of your own race.

The article seems to suggest that the kids want to be together, it's the parents that have an issue.

And on the topic of being more comfortable with members of your own race; I think a lot of people confuse race and culture. These kids all go to the same school together therefore they share the same culture. If they all have this shared experience why can't they all share the prom experience?

[Suspect Chin]

I may not be right, but your argument really doesnt prove anything. Once blacks were no longer oppressed could you blame them for wanted to disassociate themselves with their oppressors?

No I can't blame them at all. That is why I argue against forced integration, it is unnatural.

[weekapaugjz]

or?

http://youknowyoudeadazzwrong.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/ghetto_prom.jpg

[Drunky McBetidont]

Better at what?

you know what i am talking about?:wink:

[Suspect Chin]

stop stealing my bit

You have a bit? Don't tell Fez.

[Gvac]

I need something cleared up. When I posted a thread a few weeks ago saying that I think people should stop further dividing themselves by saying they're "African-American" or "Irish-American" or "Asian-American" and simply call themselves Americans, most posters jumped all over me and said they wanted everyone to be proud of their heritage.

Wouldn't that mean keeping your heritage "pure", that is not being Irish-Italian-French-German-Puerto Rican-Chinese-African-American?

I think it's fairly obvious that in the not too distant future there will be very few, if any, "pure" heritages of any kind. All of the races and nationalities will continue to mix and maybe one day we'll all be the same color and have similar physical features.

That's just logical.

I don't understand how anyone can be on both sides of the argument, though. That is, how can you want inter-mingling of the races but still want everyone to have such fierce pride in their ancestors' nationality?

[weekapaugjz]

i'm sure the girl on the right supports the segregation at prom.

http://www.earthakitsch.com/images/3.jpg

[SatCam]

They should have a big penis/big booty prom and a small penis/flat ass prom




nvm, that's what this article was talking about

[Suspect Chin]

i'm sure the girl on the right supports the segregation at prom.

http://www.earthakitsch.com/images/3.jpg

Something tells me the girl on the right's mom is the pride of the neighborhood sewing circle.

[SatCam]

I need something cleared up. When I posted a thread a few weeks ago saying that I think people should stop further dividing themselves by saying they're "African-American" or "Irish-American" or "Asian-American" and simply call themselves Americans, most posters jumped all over me and said they wanted everyone to be proud of their heritage.

Wouldn't that mean keeping your heritage "pure", that is not being Irish-Italian-French-German-Puerto Rican-Chinese-African-American?

I think it's fairly obvious that in the not too distant future there will be very few, if any, "pure" heritages of any kind. All of the races and nationalities will continue to mix and maybe one day we'll all be the same color and have similar physical features.

That's just logical.

I don't understand how anyone can be on both sides of the argument, though. That is, how can you want inter-mingling of the races but still want everyone to have such fierce pride in their ancestors' nationality?

Because it's possible to be proud of your ancestry and also tolerate others. They are not mutually exclusive.

[KatPw]

How can you say that the only cultural differences are because of segregation? Look back at the segregated years, nearly everything about the two races is identical: fashions, dialects, family structures, etc. It was not until after segregation ended that the two races diverged culturally. Now, 30 years later, the races could not be any further separated culturally.

Citation needed? I guess both races invented the blues equally and at the same time? Negro spirituals, guess that had nothing to do with the culture they were living through at the time? Rock N' Roll? Zoot suits?

[Gvac]

Because it's possible to be proud of your ancestry and also tolerate others. They are not mutually exclusive.

You're not answering the question.

How can you be proud of your heritage if there are 87 different ones?

[Suspect Chin]

Citation needed? I guess both races invented the blues equally and at the same time? Negro spirituals, guess that had nothing to do with the culture they were living through at the time? Rock N' Roll? Zoot suits?

I'm sure you can pick out a million specific examples, but I'm speaking generally about the two cultures.

[underdog]

I need something cleared up. When I posted a thread a few weeks ago saying that I think people should stop further dividing themselves by saying they're "African-American" or "Irish-American" or "Asian-American" and simply call themselves Americans, most posters jumped all over me and said they wanted everyone to be proud of their heritage.

Wouldn't that mean keeping your heritage "pure", that is not being Irish-Italian-French-German-Puerto Rican-Chinese-African-American?

I think it's fairly obvious that in the not too distant future there will be very few, if any, "pure" heritages of any kind. All of the races and nationalities will continue to mix and maybe one day we'll all be the same color and have similar physical features.

That's just logical.

I don't understand how anyone can be on both sides of the argument, though. That is, how can you want inter-mingling of the races but still want everyone to have such fierce pride in their ancestors' nationality?

I think people being proud from where they are from, even though they had no decision or choice in the matter, are dumb. And I even made a thread about it and everyone jumped on me for that.

[KatPw]

I'm sure you can pick out a million specific examples, but I'm speaking generally about the two cultures.

You just said that everything about the races was the same before segragation. If I can find a million examples that are different than that would mean they are not the same. What are you trying to say?

[Ryan Kulik]

I need something cleared up. When I posted a thread a few weeks ago saying that I think people should stop further dividing themselves by saying they're "African-American" or "Irish-American" or "Asian-American" and simply call themselves Americans, most posters jumped all over me and said they wanted everyone to be proud of their heritage.

Wouldn't that mean keeping your heritage "pure", that is not being Irish-Italian-French-German-Puerto Rican-Chinese-African-American?

I think it's fairly obvious that in the not too distant future there will be very few, if any, "pure" heritages of any kind. All of the races and nationalities will continue to mix and maybe one day we'll all be the same color and have similar physical features.

That's just logical.

I don't understand how anyone can be on both sides of the argument, though. That is, how can you want inter-mingling of the races but still want everyone to have such fierce pride in their ancestors' nationality?

I think that Ron mentioned something like this on the show a while back, that there were a lot of Italian kids and Irish kids than there are now. When I was in college you still saw a lot of kids playing that angle... can't tell you how many "Italia" shirts I would see out at the bars on a given night. I think for young kids today its really different. Its not a big deal for an Italian person to date non-Italian. I think its will be hundred a years before we see the emergence of a large mixed-race population, be we are definately trending that way. I think there will always be black people and white people as long as we have people, but those numbers will dwindle.

[Suspect Chin]

You just said that everything about the races was the same before segragation. If I can find a million examples that are different than that would mean they are not the same. What are you trying to say?

I'm saying that the fashions, the way people spoke, the idea of building and maintaining a family, were more universal back then when people were forced into segregation than they are now when people are free to interact with whomever they want.

[KatPw]

I'm saying that the fashions, the way people spoke, the idea of building and maintaining a family, were more universal back then when people were forced into segregation than they are now when people are free to interact with whomever they want.

Do you really think it was like that? It sounds like what you are talking about is the made up Leave it to Beaver American-branded life that media and marketing has cultivated throughout the years. People did have their own different ways of speaking back then, that is something that goes along with culture not race. How about when dirty no good Irish (sarcasm there) were told to not even waste a business owner's time by applying for a job because no one would want one working for them. Was that a good type of segregation?

[Serpico1103]

Because it's possible to be proud of your ancestry and also tolerate others. They are not mutually exclusive.

I think it is sad to be "proud" of your ancestry. Usually means you haven't done anything and are looking to associate with something you identify as successful.

[brettmojo]

I think it is sad to be "proud" of your ancestry. Usually means you haven't done anything and are looking to associate with something you identify as successful.
Holy shit.

It's not like we're Hiltons.

[Suspect Chin]

Do you really think it was like that? It sounds like what you are talking about is the made up Leave it to Beaver American-branded life that media and marketing has cultivated throughout the years. People did have their own different ways of speaking back then, that is something that goes along with culture not race. How about when dirty no good Irish (sarcasm there) were told to not even waste a business owner's time by applying for a job because no one would want one working for them. Was that a good type of segregation?

There is no 'good type' of forced segregation. The prom thing is a self-imposed type of segregation that seems to work for both groups and should not have to change if those two groups don't want it changed just because some media outlet stumbled upon it.

Furthermore, I was talking about the black/white separate-but-equal segregation of the first half of the 20th century, not hate towards immigrant groups like the Irish.

[KatPw]

There is no 'good type' of forced segregation. The prom thing is a self-imposed type of segregation that seems to work for both groups and should not have to change if those two groups don't want it changed just because some media outlet stumbled upon it.

Furthermore, I was talking about the black/white separate-but-equal segregation of the first half of the 20th century, not hate towards immigrant groups like the Irish.

According to the article it is not self-imposed it is parent-imposed. The kids don't want the segregation.
And it doesn't matter who you are being prejudice against, it is still prejudice.

[Suspect Chin]

According to the article it is not self-imposed it is parent-imposed. The kids don't want the segregation.
And it doesn't matter who you are being prejudice against, it is still prejudice.

The principal said that the school tried to have integrated proms in the past but the students could not come to terms and the students decided that segregated proms was the way to go.

I'm not talking about whether prejudice is good or bad, I'm talking about segregation and its effect on the cultural divergence between black and white people.

Go back an re-read my previous posts before you respond.

[Kris10]

who cares.. it's not my prom