Was it a missile?

[furie]

Liberty County Sheriff’s officials are expected to meet with the FAA on Tuesday to discuss what a Continental Express pilot reported as a “missile or rocket” flying near his airplane. (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6453529.html)

as if we don't have enough to worry about with aircraft these days.
something like this has always been a top concern

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[ChrisTheCop]

Interesting. Could there be a connection to what happened to the Air France flight out of Brazil?

[Furtherman]

Interesting. Could there be a connection to what happened to the Air France flight out of Brazil?

That's a bit of a stretch.

[weekapaugjz]

i think it was skynet shooting a missle back in time as a test. watch out for the nuke that will be coming our way now.

[ChrisTheCop]

That's a bit of a stretch.

why? they have NO explanation (yet) as to why that plane went down.
It's GOT to be on the list... stretch?? It's certainly been thought of before.

[Furtherman]

why? they have NO explanation (yet) as to why that plane went down.
It's GOT to be on the list... stretch?? It's certainly been thought of before.

The plane flew into a thunderstorm and was experiencing heavy turbulence and electrical failure. That will most likely be the reason it went down.

[furie]

That's a bit of a stretch.

I agree, there's no way a missile from Texas could make it to Brazil

[ChrisTheCop]

I agree, there's no way a missile from Texas could make it to Brazil

lol.

[PilotJeff]

why? they have NO explanation (yet) as to why that plane went down.
It's GOT to be on the list... stretch?? It's certainly been thought of before.

It flew through a mid-Atlantic thunderstorm. Bad shit happens during that, such as catastrophic structural failure. It was an Airbus afterall... :blink:

Either way, this ain't good. I'm pretty sure a toy rocket wouldn't reach 13,000 feet. Of course, he could be having a 'Nam flashback....

[ChrisTheCop]

The plane flew into a thunderstorm and was experiencing heavy turbulence and electrical failure. That will most likely be the explanation they give the masses as to why it went down.

fixed.

[ChrisTheCop]

It flew through a mid-Atlantic thunderstorm. Bad shit happens during that, such as catastrophic structural failure. It was an Airbus afterall... :blink:



I hadnt heard about the weather, and because youre a pilot, I'll accept your explanation.

Get on board people! No need to fear. Airplanes are no longer targets of terror.

[Aggie]

NASA is in Houston, maybe they messed up.

[Fezticle98]

The exact same story happened in Houston about 6 months ago....what became of that? Oh yeah, everyone forgot about it and didn't care...

[ChrisTheCop]

The exact same story happened in Houston about 6 months ago....what became of that? Oh yeah, everyone forgot about it and didn't care...

http://www.yourprops.com/norm-495ba9a97f856-Men+in+Black+(1997).jpeg

[PilotJeff]

Get on board people! No need to fear. Airplanes are no longer targets of terror.

I wish people would get on board, my company has over 300 pilots on the unemployment line at the moment. But, no one has any money to fly anyway so it'll be awhile.

And airplanes are still "targets of terror," but in my personal opinion I'd say that they won't be used in the same manner they were on 9-11. Between better awareness of crews and even passengers these days, I think it wouldn't be a hijacking they try.

American actually has (or had) two or three planes flying around with a trial run of missile detecting lasers.

[CountryBob]

Since it was reported that a signal was sent stating electrical and pressure failures, could it be possible that they experienced loss of pressure and axfixiated- ala Paine Stewart?

[badmonkey]

http://www.yourprops.com/norm-495ba9a97f856-Men+in+Black+(1997).jpeg

Have you ever flashything'ed me Chris?!?! Be honest.

[Freitag]

Since it was reported that a signal was sent stating electrical and pressure failures, could it be possible that they experienced loss of pressure and axfixiated- ala Paine Stewart?

No. Paine Stewart's plane crashed because it ran out of fuel. It was set on autopilot.

You're not on autopilot when you're in bad storms and weather.

Also, you have to understand, the plane was IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. It's a trillion to one shot that any terrorist group could track that plane, on a boat, with a missle. Don't forget - they'd be in the same storm too.

[Freitag]

why? they have NO explanation (yet) as to why that plane went down.
It's GOT to be on the list... stretch?? It's certainly been thought of before.

Depends.

if you're going with a bomb theory, then yes, maybe. But not likely.

However

if you're going with someone brought it down with a missle... very, very, very, very EXTREMELY low odds.

Boat, in bad weather, tracking a plane, near the equator, in the middle of absolutely nowhere.

[topless_mike]

Depends.

if you're going with a bomb theory, then yes, maybe. But not likely.

However

if you're going with someone brought it down with a missle... very, very, very, very EXTREMELY low odds.

Boat, in bad weather, tracking a plane, near the equator, in the middle of absolutely nowhere.

i agree. no way a missle brought it down. it was too far offshore for a missle to lock onto it. besides, that would have popped up on their radar and given them enough time for a WTF ?

guess nobody here saw "Cast Away"
catastrophic loss off cabin pressure and propulsion = 600 mph lawn dart.

[topless_mike]

cruising at 35k feet? if there were storms, why didnt they climb higher?, or was 35k its ceiling? might be, by looking at the data on wiki.

[Jujubees2]

cruising at 35k feet? if there were storms, why didnt they climb higher?, or was 35k its ceiling? might be, by looking at the data on wiki.

I thought I saw that these storms at the equator can rise to as high as 50,000 feet

[PilotJeff]

cruising at 35k feet? if there were storms, why didnt they climb higher?, or was 35k its ceiling? might be, by looking at the data on wiki.

Depends on a number of factors. Severe thunderstorms, as someone said, can reach as high (if not higher) than 50,000ft. Also, planes on that long of a flight carry a ton of fuel especially if they expect weather enroute. The additional heavy load of fuel and international cargo can limit an aircraft's climb capability as well.

[PilotJeff]

No. Paine Stewart's plane crashed because it ran out of fuel. It was set on autopilot.

But, his plane did lose pressure in flight and everyone slowly slipped into unconsciousness. If you want to get into semantics, then yes, his plane crashed because it ran out of fuel. Why did it run out of fuel? Because it lost somehow lost pressurization and everyone was dead long before it crashed.

Of course, if you believe the internets, it was a government conspiracy. Why the government would want to kill Paine Stewart, I have no idea...

[SatCam]

maybe it was a pocket rocket? (http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80911)

[brettmojo]

But, his plane did lose pressure in flight and everyone slowly slipped into unconsciousness. If you want to get into semantics, then yes, his plane crashed because it ran out of fuel. Why did it run out of fuel? Because it lost somehow lost pressurization and everyone was dead long before it crashed.

Of course, if you believe the internets, it was a government conspiracy. Why the government would want to kill Paine Stewart, I have no idea...
Didn't that chick from Queen Of The Damn die the same way?

[Crispy123]

Didn't that chick from Queen Of The Damn die the same way?

No. The Airplane was over weight for takeoff and not balanced.

[spoon]

Depends on a number of factors. Severe thunderstorms, as someone said, can reach as high (if not higher) than 50,000ft. Also, planes on that long of a flight carry a ton of fuel especially if they expect weather enroute. The additional heavy load of fuel and international cargo can limit an aircraft's climb capability as well.

Yah, I read this particular storm had thunderheads reaching as high as 65,000 based on reports. Still, these planes are built to withstand plenty of lightning strikes and harsh weather if they get caught in a system (very rare). Most of the time, and correct me if I'm wrong on this Jeff bc I'm no pilot, planes are routed either over the systems (not an option here) or around them and this latter tactic can add a TON of time to a flight. For a flight like this one, it may have made the flight too long for the reroute.

Overall, everything I read supports a series of issues combined to cause this Atlantic Ocean Airbus crash. It's a shame and a complete nightmare to say the least.

[brettmojo]

No. The Airplane was over weight for takeoff and not balanced.
Ah.

Must have been her bodyguards.

[Crispy123]

Ah.

Must have been her bodyguards.

Yes, I think they were like 300 lbs apiece and you generally allow 200 lbs per person, plus they had a shit ton of luggage.