Has Anyone Grown Out Of Shock-Jock Radio?

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I've reached a point in my life (and I don't know if this has anything to do with the show by itself or just me) where O&A have ceased to stimulate my mind in any way. In fact, shows like O&A and their clone Howie (hoo...hoo...badabump) act as a mental dampener for me. I actually feel myself getting stupider the more I listen to them. I hate to say it, but I think I've grown up and out of that stage where something like O&A brings me any joyful exuberance.

Occasionally they make me laugh, such as the five seconds I had them on last week and heard them slamming E-Rock over the phone. But then it degenerates into something completely inane and I feel like a worse person for listening to it.

I have none of these symptoms with Ron and Fez show. I can only assume it's the shock-jock formula that is employed ad nauseum by O&A and their blatantly unintelligent observations regarding most things in life, versus the more cerebral, down-to-earth and introspective things said on Ron and Fez.

Perhaps I'm just a Baby Snoots, full of bad beverage and snobby opinions. Maybe Ron's movie snobbery has rubbed off on me and influenced how I enjoy my radio. Maybe I just grew out of it.

I wonder if anyone else has experienced this with any of their formerly favorite radio shows?

[Marc with a c]

long ago.

[MacVittie]

I was a big O&A fan when I first got satellite radio, but I have definitely grown out of being a daily listener. Jimmy's humor still strikes a chord with the 8th grade boy inside me, but the rants and racist jokes get kinda stale after a while. I still gotta love them for getting me hooked on 202 and finding the greatest radio show on the planet.

[Foster]

I was a big O&A fan when I first got satellite radio, but I have definitely grown out of being a daily listener. Jimmy's humor still strikes a chord with the 8th grade boy inside me, but the rants and racist jokes get kinda stale after a while. I still gotta love them for getting me hooked on 202 and finding the greatest radio show on the planet.

Jason Ellis?

[lleeder]

I go through up and down times where I get more or less into the show. Sometimes I won't listen then I'll catch a replay and be amazed how funny a particular segment was that I missed. I really dislike the way they do the replays on the weekend. Alot of times interviews will be highlighted and often times thats the weakest part of the show in my opinion. I like when both shows just discuss current event topics or things from their personal lives. I also don't care about stunts. If someone eats something or has something smeared on themI understand that they aren't going to like it and might eventually puke.

[FezsAssistant]

No, but I'm starting to 'grow out of' (how fucking pretentious is that?) a show where one of the hosts (who lives on Roosevelt Island) only participates in the show in order to complain about things in a very unfunny and uninteresting way. And when he does make a rare attempt at a joke, the other host doesn't get it and shuts him down and calls him stupid, then the callers do the same thing (while both hosts wonder why aloud), while the hosts obviously have little desire to do radio anymore (at least with each other), then this board complains about negativity and starts negative threads about another show that is actually kicking ass and having fun (in order to take attention away from the fact that the namesake of this site isn't hitting on all cylinders anymore).
How depressing.

[MacVittie]

No, but I'm starting to 'grow out of' (how fucking pretentious is that?) a show where one of the hosts (who lives on Roosevelt Island) only participates in the show in order to complain about things in a very unfunny and uninteresting way.

Says you!

[Foster]

No, but I'm starting to 'grow out of' (how fucking pretentious is that?) a show where one of the hosts (who lives on Roosevelt Island) only participates in the show in order to complain about things in a very unfunny and uninteresting way. And when he does make a rare attempt at a joke, the other host doesn't get it and shuts him down and calls him stupid, then the callers do the same thing (while both hosts wonder why aloud), while the hosts obviously have little desire to do radio anymore (at least with each other), then this board complains about negativity and starts negative threads about another show that is actually kicking ass and having fun (in order to take attention away from the fact that the namesake of this site isn't hitting on all cylinders anymore).
How depressing.

http://dansemacabre.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/flogging-dead-horse.jpg

[FezsAssistant]

I can only assume it's the shock-jock formula that is employed ad nauseum by O&A and their blatantly unintelligent observations regarding most things in life, versus the more cerebral, down-to-earth and introspective things said on Ron and Fez.


LOL
do you ever listen to either show?

[FezsAssistant]

Says you!

Says Ron, too.

[disneyspy]

radio isnt as shock-jockery as it usta be,miss it,it was fun

[MacVittie]

Says Ron, too.

when did Ron ever say that Fez wasn't funny?

[underdog]

No, but I'm starting to 'grow out of' (how fucking pretentious is that?) a show where one of the hosts (who lives on Roosevelt Island) only participates in the show in order to complain about things in a very unfunny and uninteresting way. And when he does make a rare attempt at a joke, the other host doesn't get it and shuts him down and calls him stupid, then the callers do the same thing (while both hosts wonder why aloud), while the hosts obviously have little desire to do radio anymore (at least with each other), then this board complains about negativity and starts negative threads about another show that is actually kicking ass and having fun (in order to take attention away from the fact that the namesake of this site isn't hitting on all cylinders anymore).
How depressing.

Go away.

[Serpico1103]

I have moved away from the O&A humor and more towards R&F. I think even o&A have evolved, but they still pander a little more to lower humor.
R&F have a nice blend.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Sorry. Guess I'm pretentious. Kind of unavoidable, it seems. Though I don't think there's any pretentiousness in my saying I've grown past them. People do grow, y'know. I just grow in a different way from those who still like the O&A show.

Me, I've never liked misogyny, but I like it even less the older I get. Ditto for racism. Quadruple for generalized statements and general talking-out-of-the-butt discussions. I'm Prendergrast Pretentious.

[Evolved]

I have none of these symptoms with Ron and Fez show. I can only assume it's the shock-jock formula that is employed ad nauseum by O&A and their blatantly unintelligent observations regarding most things in life, versus the more cerebral, down-to-earth and introspective things said on Ron and Fez.


Are you sure you have the right show? Fez is :king: of "blatantly unintelligent observations regarding most things in life".

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Are you sure you have the right show? Fez is :king: of "blatantly unintelligent observations regarding most things in life".

He gets called out for it however. His observations aren't treated like fact. Plus he's just a marshmallow. His statements don't really bother me so much. I'm biased since I also love the guy in a non-CW way.

[MacVittie]

He gets called out for it however. His observations aren't treated like fact. Plus he's just a marshmallow. His statements don't really bother me so much. I'm biased since I also love the guy in a non-CW way.

I still think its all a character. There's no way he believes everything he actually says.

[Gvac]

I'm with you all the way, brother. Saying things for the sake of shocking others isn't my cup of tea and hasn't been for quite some time. It's a mindless approach to comedy.

It's why Norton aggravates me sometimes. He's been blessed with a marvelously quick comedic wit but all too often relies on the easy route of saying something outrageous rather than thought provoking.

When XM recently had Stern for free for a week I tuned in because Howard was a part of my mornings for 15 years and I was feeling nostalgic. I can't tell you how disappointed I was to find I hadn't missed a thing. The show was exactly the same.

It was like tuning in to a soap opera after 5 years and still being able to follow the plot line.

[EliSnow]

When I liked O&A back in 2000-2001, it was always for the humor side as opposed to the shockjock/cringe side. I liked when Anthony would do Bill Clinton moving to Westchester and hiding under a kid's swimming pool like on America's Most Wanted. The other stuff was okay, but the humorous side is what drew me.

And then when I discovered R&F, I realized that type of radio is what I preferred. And I listened to O&A much less and R&F more.

Now, I don't think I listen to O&A for more than an hour a month.

[blakenWYO]

anthony, all jokes aside is ignorant!! he is always laughing at his own jokes too... dude it wasnt that funny.. the best thing about the show is nortans charecters, they make the whole show worth listening to; just incase ted, or uncle paul shows up....:wink:

[blakenWYO]

Are you sure you have the right show? Fez is :king: of "blatantly unintelligent observations regarding most things in life".

WELL PLAYED GOOD SIR:thumbup:

[drjoek]

I gave up on O & A years ago. One of the tipping points is the whole "retard joke" My nephew has Downs Syndrome and I really never found it funny to make a joke about. In addition alot of the cringy shit is really lazy comedy. Rather than try to be creative with something to just go back to Mike Brady had AIDS AGAIN.
Since they added the Sirius channels I havent listened to O& A at all. I d rather listen to Grateful Dead radio.

[Kublakhan61]

And then when I discovered R&F, I realized that type of radio is what I preferred. And I listened to O&A much less and R&F more.

Now, I don't think I listen to O&A for more than an hour a month.

This is my story as well. Only I discovered O&A in 2006 and left them in 2007 when they were suspended and Audible (bless them) began offering R&F shows in O&A's absence.
As soon as I heard R&F I was done with O&A.

[TripleSkeet]

I dont think I outgrew O & A, I still listen and most of the show makes me laugh. If one particular day Im not enjoying it, I turn on music or sportstalk. I dont really consider most of what they do "shock jockery" anymore anyway. Radio as whole pretty much doesnt allow it.

They cant do anything phsyical with the audience, no challeneges, nothing pornographic...so what makes it shocking? That they curse? Its satellite, on regular radio they couldnt even say words that werent curses.

I do enjoy R & F better but I dont think it has anything to do with maturity as much as I find Ronny B. to be the funniest person Ive ever heard on the radio....ever. I think Dave is phenominal too. But if Ron left the show Id probably stop listening immediately...not sure I can say that about anyone else.

[Death Metal Moe]

No, but I'm starting to 'grow out of' (how fucking pretentious is that?) a show where one of the hosts (who lives on Roosevelt Island) only participates in the show in order to complain about things in a very unfunny and uninteresting way. And when he does make a rare attempt at a joke, the other host doesn't get it and shuts him down and calls him stupid, then the callers do the same thing (while both hosts wonder why aloud), while the hosts obviously have little desire to do radio anymore (at least with each other), then this board complains about negativity and starts negative threads about another show that is actually kicking ass and having fun (in order to take attention away from the fact that the namesake of this site isn't hitting on all cylinders anymore).
How depressing.

Get fucked troll. You have no idea what the relationship between the hosts is and you're certainly no one to judge comedy.

If the show is so bad, stop listening and stop posting about it.

[Death Metal Moe]

As for "Outgrowing Shock Radio," I don't categorize O&A as "Shock Jock" radio. It's an insulting term that really limits what they do to gimmicks and shtick.

What you're saying is "You don't like O&A anymore." That's fine, outline why you don't but there's little need for this snotty Anti O&A sentiment that pops up on the board from time to time.

Both shows are friends and get along well, why hate? Just listen to Ron and Fez.

[led37zep]

If Art Bell came back as a Shock Jock I'd be all over it.

[KingGeno]

Used to be a big O&A fan. Now it is kinda tired.

Ron & Fez Radio is my kinda radio.

[STC-Dub]

Go away.

I second that sentiment.

[STC-Dub]

O&A doesn't seem too shock jocky too me. On occasion they go that route but I have no problems with the show.

[zildjian361]

After listening for over 20 year's some time i know iv'e heard it before. But the jocks on tradio just kiss the callers ass and dig every song they call in for. just for once i'd like to hear a NY djay say , no your song suck's i ain't playin it. but that will never happen.that's why i still listen. plus i'm paid up till Dec 09.sirius and XM

[spoon]

FA made some interesting points in my mind. Why flame him bc you disagree!? How about you counter his post versus just telling him to listen and shutup bc you say so.

[Hottub]

FA made some interesting points in my mind. Why flame him bc you disagree!? How about you counter his post versus just telling him to listen and shutup bc you say so.

Spoon for Mod.

[spoon]

Spoon for Mod.

Antimod

watch ur back

[Hottub]

Antimod

watch ur back

Fag

[Gvac]

Fag

PERSONAL ATTACK!

[spoon]

PERSONAL ATTACK!

yep, ban him now! If only i had my antimod powers!? :furious:

[Gvac]

yep, ban him now! If only i had my antimod powers!? :furious:

I'll handle this. I'm an Administrator now.

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[zildjian361]

PERSONAL ATTACK!

G they made you a Admin, congradulations, :clap: now i can say what i really wan't to say:wink:

[mikeyboy]

FA made some interesting points in my mind. Why flame him bc you disagree!? How about you counter his post versus just telling him to listen and shutup bc you say so.

But here's the thing, these points that you think are great don't really have much to do with the subject of this thread. It's just a roundabout way for him to shit on the show again. He takes it as a personal affront if anyone doesn't like O&A, and makes it role to point out why it's hypocritical to like R&F but not O&A, when it's just bullshit because it comes down to taste. He also paints every group he doesn't like (this board, liberals) with such shitty broad strokes (e.g. everyone on this board hates O&A; if someone says a reason on this board as to what they don't like about O&A and an entirely different person brings up something they like about R&F that contradicts the other person, then the whole board is hypocrites according to him; all liberals believe the government was behind 9/11, so they are hypocrites for not assuming any type of attack during Obama's presidency is the responsibility of the government), that it defies logic. In fact, his sole role on the board seems to be to defend O&A, attack R&F and get apoplectic about liberals. Not even sure why he even posts here. I've brought it up before but he hasn't answered. In fact he rarely seems to respond when people call him out on some of his points. I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to post his arguments, but it would be nice if he were a little more honest in his assessments and not blinded by his apparent hatred for the groups he doesn't like.

[Hottub]

I'll handle this. I'm an Administrator now.

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Oh shit.

[Sue_Bender]

I'll handle this. I'm an Administrator now.

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Wow!

When (and to a greater extent...WHY) did this happen?! :tongue:

[styckx]

As for "Outgrowing Shock Radio," I don't categorize O&A as "Shock Jock" radio. It's an insulting term that really limits what they do to gimmicks and shtick.

What you're saying is "You don't like O&A anymore." That's fine, outline why you don't but there's little need for this snotty Anti O&A sentiment that pops up on the board from time to time.

Both shows are friends and get along well, why hate? Just listen to Ron and Fez.

What? They made a CAREEER out of doing over the top shit and being shocking. What else is there to call them? OUTRAGEOUS RADIO DUO? TWO WACKY AND CRAZY GUYZZZ?

The only reason you're saying they is because they told you the term shock jock is hacky. You're just towing the company line. They are shock jocks, plain and simple. All 3 of them still make fun of aids patients, cancer patients, Christopher Reeve, dead babies, shit, piss, fuck, cunt, pussy, retards, you name it. You don't call that trying to be shocking?

I stopped listening to this show pretty much all together, `Honest Radio' turned "Bitch, Moan, Spin, and make excuses radio." Then came the GO FUCK YOURSELF IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT, TURN OFF YOUR RADIO AND STOP LISTENING phase! Then more bitching, more bitching, random calls to E-Lo so he could shake his magic 8-Ball and spit out lines like "Most listeners on XM" "Most profitable channel on XM" after Howard killed them in ratings.

The only time that show is anywhere near interesting anymore is when a comedian is in doing the heavy lifting. Otherwise it's Danny browses the internet for 5hrs radio.

[mikeyboy]

Oh shit.

http://journeyhomeburke.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/350729-mrburns.gif

[Hottub]

It's toe the line.

[Gvac]

It's toe the line.

Ha!

[Sue_Bender]

It's toe the line.

I suppose you're going to claim it's "Toe Truck" as well.


This is all too ridiculous, Tub. :happy:

[styckx]

As for "Outgrowing Shock Radio," I don't categorize O&A as "Shock Jock" radio. It's an insulting term that really limits what they do to gimmicks and shtick.

What you're saying is "You don't like O&A anymore." That's fine, outline why you don't but there's little need for this snotty Anti O&A sentiment that pops up on the board from time to time.

Both shows are friends and get along well, why hate? Just listen to Ron and Fez.

It's toe the line.

http://www.petestaxidermy.com/images/MtLionBear10900.jpg

:tongue:

[Foster]

But here's the thing, these points that you think are great don't really have much to do with the subject of this thread. It's just a roundabout way for him to shit on the show again. He takes it as a personal affront if anyone doesn't like O&A, and makes it role to point out why it's hypocritical to like R&F but not O&A, when it's just bullshit because it comes down to taste. He also paints every group he doesn't like (this board, liberals) with such shitty broad strokes (e.g. everyone on this board hates O&A; if someone says a reason on this board as to what they don't like about O&A and an entirely different person brings up something they like about R&F that contradicts the other person, then the whole board is hypocrites according to him; all liberals believe the government was behind 9/11, so they are hypocrites for not assuming any type of attack during Obama's presidency is the responsibility of the government), that it defies logic. In fact, his sole role on the board seems to be to defend O&A, attack R&F and get apoplectic about liberals. Not even sure why he even posts here. I've brought it up before but he hasn't answered. In fact he rarely seems to respond when people call him out on some of his points. I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to post his arguments, but it would be nice if he were a little more honest in his assessments and not blinded by his apparent hatred for the groups he doesn't like.

what does "apoplectic" mean?

[Gvac]

what does "apoplectic" mean?

Apoplexy is a stroke.

Apoplectic means stroking out with anger or rage.

[mikeyboy]

what does "apoplectic" mean?


ap·o·plec·tic [ àppə pléktik ]


adjective
Definition:

1. furious: overcome with anger

2. exhibiting symptoms of stroke: having the symptoms of a stroke ( archaic )

[spoon]

I'll handle this. I'm an Administrator now.

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NICE

:lol:

[Death Metal Moe]

What? They made a CAREEER out of doing over the top shit and being shocking. What else is there to call them? OUTRAGEOUS RADIO DUO? TWO WACKY AND CRAZY GUYZZZ?

The only reason you're saying they is because they told you the term shock jock is hacky. You're just towing the company line. They are shock jocks, plain and simple. All 3 of them still make fun of aids patients, cancer patients, Christopher Reeve, dead babies, shit, piss, fuck, cunt, pussy, retards, you name it. You don't call that trying to be shocking?

I stopped listening to this show pretty much all together, `Honest Radio' turned "Bitch, Moan, Spin, and make excuses radio." Then came the GO FUCK YOURSELF IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT, TURN OFF YOUR RADIO AND STOP LISTENING phase! Then more bitching, more bitching, random calls to E-Lo so he could shake his magic 8-Ball and spit out lines like "Most listeners on XM" "Most profitable channel on XM" after Howard killed them in ratings.

The only time that show is anywhere near interesting anymore is when a comedian is in doing the heavy lifting. Otherwise it's Danny browses the internet for 5hrs radio.

Well, your opinion is yours, have fun with it. I don't use the term "Shock Jock" not because O&A told me anything, I don't use it because ANY show that offends someone at some point can be lumped in. That includes Ron and Fez, so I don't like the term because you could easily try to marginalize any show with it, it's a cheap shot and an old, tired term.

O&A have tiring breaks and then will do a very funny break, I tune in then tune out. But to label them and dismiss them isn't very fair. If you don't like them you don't have to listen to them.

The other part that bothers me is it almost seems fashionable to shit on O&A over here. Look down your nose at O&A's poop jokes but laugh at racial humor on Ron and Fez? Why? Is one better than the other? I agree Ron does it in a much funnier fashion but both shows touch on touchy topics that could be considered "shocking" just talking about them.

Neither show is morally or intellectually above the other, Ron and Fez is just our favorite show.

[styckx]

Today is a wonderful day, I'm going to go frolic through a daisy field and play in other threads now while twisting my pigtails. *tee*hee*

[Death Metal Moe]

But here's the thing, these points that you think are great don't really have much to do with the subject of this thread. It's just a roundabout way for him to shit on the show again. He takes it as a personal affront if anyone doesn't like O&A, and makes it role to point out why it's hypocritical to like R&F but not O&A, when it's just bullshit because it comes down to taste. He also paints every group he doesn't like (this board, liberals) with such shitty broad strokes (e.g. everyone on this board hates O&A; if someone says a reason on this board as to what they don't like about O&A and an entirely different person brings up something they like about R&F that contradicts the other person, then the whole board is hypocrites according to him; all liberals believe the government was behind 9/11, so they are hypocrites for not assuming any type of attack during Obama's presidency is the responsibility of the government), that it defies logic. In fact, his sole role on the board seems to be to defend O&A, attack R&F and get apoplectic about liberals. Not even sure why he even posts here. I've brought it up before but he hasn't answered. In fact he rarely seems to respond when people call him out on some of his points. I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to post his arguments, but it would be nice if he were a little more honest in his assessments and not blinded by his apparent hatred for the groups he doesn't like.

Exactly. He used this thread to attack Fez, again. It's all he really does. That's a troll, and he will be marginalized as such.

[Space Edge]

Well, your opinion is yours, have fun with it. I don't use the term "Shock Jock" not because O&A told me anything, I don't use it because ANY show that offends someone at some point can be lumped in. That includes Ron and Fez, so I don't like the term because you could easily try to marginalize any show with it, it's a cheap shot and an old, tired term.

O&A have tiring breaks and then will do a very funny break, I tune in then tune out. But to label them and dismiss them isn't very fair. If you don't like them you don't have to listen to them.

The other part that bothers me is it almost seems fashionable to shit on O&A over here. Look down your nose at O&A's poop jokes but laugh at racial humor on Ron and Fez? Why? Is one better than the other? I agree Ron does it in a much funnier fashion but both shows touch on touchy topics that could be considered "shocking" just talking about them.

Neither show is morally or intellectually above the other, Ron and Fez is just our favorite show.

I agree with you some posters here (not all) will shit on everything that O&A do, but if Ron and Fez did the same thing it would be the greatest thing ever. Most of the negative stuff said about O&A over here seems to be about Anthony and the people who say shit seem like a scorned lover, and if your going to categorize talk radio I would throw Ron and Fez in as "Shock Jocks"

[MustyHatchetwound]

Well, your opinion is yours, have fun with it. I don't use the term "Shock Jock" not because O&A told me anything, I don't use it because ANY show that offends someone at some point can be lumped in. That includes Ron and Fez, so I don't like the term because you could easily try to marginalize any show with it, it's a cheap shot and an old, tired term.

O&A have tiring breaks and then will do a very funny break, I tune in then tune out. But to label them and dismiss them isn't very fair. If you don't like them you don't have to listen to them.

The other part that bothers me is it almost seems fashionable to shit on O&A over here. Look down your nose at O&A's poop jokes but laugh at racial humor on Ron and Fez? Why? Is one better than the other? I agree Ron does it in a much funnier fashion but both shows touch on touchy topics that could be considered "shocking" just talking about them.

Neither show is morally or intellectually above the other, Ron and Fez is just our favorite show.

Ditto on above...

With the state of the world and life in general I like to giggle like a little girl while I am driving and listening to the most stupid things ever put on a radio...i.e. how much cum to fill this room ect, I laughed, I cried, I skidded slightly in my shorts. Then there is the genius Ron Bennington....two differant shows, lots of differant topics....and I still giggle like a school girl while diving.

Its entertainment, nothing more, nothing less

[JackieJokeMan]

I'm pretentious.

Yep.

If the show is so bad, stop listening and stop posting about it.

If his posts are so bad, stop responding to them.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

As for "Outgrowing Shock Radio," I don't categorize O&A as "Shock Jock" radio. It's an insulting term that really limits what they do to gimmicks and shtick.

What you're saying is "You don't like O&A anymore." That's fine, outline why you don't but there's little need for this snotty Anti O&A sentiment that pops up on the board from time to time.

Both shows are friends and get along well, why hate? Just listen to Ron and Fez.

If I were reading my own initial post just a couple years ago I would have also presumed that I'm being a snotty hater who thinks his palette for culture has evolved above the confines of whatever limited sensations stimulate enjoyment whilst listening to the Opie and Anthony Show, i.e. has his head wayyy up his ass.

I guess perspective goes a long way to defining how someone reacts to something. Now that I'm at this point in my "relationship" with O&A show as a listener, I'm just curious if I'm the only one who had this happen to him who is willing to say so on here.

I don't hate the show or think it sucks or that it should go away. I definitely don't think people who listen to it are the lowest common denominator. I have friends who enjoy the show very much and I'd never consider myself above them. I've just grown out of it. Another way of saying grown out is 'moved on', perhaps that won't rankle anyone's misplaced prejudices about what pretension really is.

I would traditionally say I'm sad or some other form of emotion to display the void in my heart that's been left by the absence of love for O&A as of late, but I honestly don't feel anything. This thread was nothing more than a curiosity. I find it interesting that it has excited a serious anti-FA sentiment however. That's kind of fun. :devil2:

[CofyCrakCocaine]

But here's the thing, these points that you think are great don't really have much to do with the subject of this thread. It's just a roundabout way for him to shit on the show again. He takes it as a personal affront if anyone doesn't like O&A, and makes it role to point out why it's hypocritical to like R&F but not O&A, when it's just bullshit because it comes down to taste. He also paints every group he doesn't like (this board, liberals) with such shitty broad strokes (e.g. everyone on this board hates O&A; if someone says a reason on this board as to what they don't like about O&A and an entirely different person brings up something they like about R&F that contradicts the other person, then the whole board is hypocrites according to him; all liberals believe the government was behind 9/11, so they are hypocrites for not assuming any type of attack during Obama's presidency is the responsibility of the government), that it defies logic. In fact, his sole role on the board seems to be to defend O&A, attack R&F and get apoplectic about liberals. Not even sure why he even posts here. I've brought it up before but he hasn't answered. In fact he rarely seems to respond when people call him out on some of his points. I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to post his arguments, but it would be nice if he were a little more honest in his assessments and not blinded by his apparent hatred for the groups he doesn't like.

You must win all your cases if your dissertations are anything like this. :wub:

[Fez4PrezN2008]

I just switch it to NPR for a little while when I feel my brain turning to mush from the shock-jockery. Then after a while I feel average again.

(PS - I am also not FezsAssistant, please don't confuse)

[blakenWYO]

I can only assume it's the shock-jock formula that is employed ad nauseum by O&A and their blatantly unintelligent observations regarding most things in life, versus the more cerebral, down-to-earth and introspective things said on Ron and Fez.


what a douche!

[TooLowBrow]

I can only assume it's the shock-jock formula that is employed ad nauseum by O&A and their blatantly unintelligent observations regarding most things in life, versus the more cerebral, down-to-earth and introspective things said on Ron and Fez.


what a douche!

im so glad that, soon, your state will be filled with redundancy deer

[conman823]

Really though, WTF is "shocking" on radio anymore? It certainly isn't what I've been hearing these last 10 years.

Last thing i can remember is Sex for Sam, when I was listening live all I thought was "Wow, they will be so fired for this.".

Since then.....NOTHING. Nothing they SAY can make me shocked. Actions maybe, but they really don't want to get fired for it anymore.

Cringe Radio/Comedy is how I categorize both shows now. Even Stern.

Again What the fuck is "shocking"?

[Brad in Bama]

I get tired of the same jokes. Norton says the word "Asshole" 100's of times a day, and it's always some sort of gay joke that only Anthony and Jim laugh at. It was funny at first, but it got old. And Danny's ass licking of Anthony and slarmy attitude in general is enough to make me tune out. It's always a descriptive telling of a dick or somthing gross to invoke shocking thoughts, but they're always the same.

I agree with the post above, "Lazy Comedy".

I like R&F because they invoke thought while being funny, without going to the well with the same stuff and beat it to the ground. I see them as trying/caring more than most shows.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

Really though, WTF is "shocking" on radio anymore? It certainly isn't what I've been hearing these last 10 years.

Last thing i can remember is Sex for Sam, when I was listening live all I thought was "Wow, they will be so fired for this.".

Since then.....NOTHING. Nothing they SAY can make me shocked. Actions maybe, but they really don't want to get fired for it anymore.

Cringe Radio/Comedy is how I categorize both shows now. Even Stern.

Again What the fuck is "shocking"?
Well when O&A was playing around with the electric mouse trap, that was pretty shocking (* pat from moonachie voice *) maaah maaah maah.

[Brillionaire]

Insult humor only gets you so far, maybe half a step.. backwards. Wasn't George Carlin's unrelenting social commentary what made him the keystone for the contemporaries that followed (I hear the same sentiments in Ron's commentary). Carlin gave us the ability to laugh at ourselves while making us realize that maybe we don't do everything the way we should. Isn't that what true comedy is about? Laughing at ourselves?

I latched onto something Ron said last Friday while talking about botany and whether or not gardening makes you "gay". He had said something to the effect that botanists want to make every generation stronger than the strain before it. Why does this not apply to humans? Why are we so worried about the future evolution of global warming and our planet when we obviously don't give a shit about our own evolution? If this crazy world of ours is just one big party and dawn is on the horizon, by all means, lets do it right. Lets all get some X and some Everclear and have a rave on the beach and make an orgy pile that would make Mt. Everest jealous

I am in this for the long haul though. Think about what makes you so special, the good and the bad. Take those lessons and apply them to your kids. Why should they have to make the same mistakes that we had to? Why do we bother to record and process historical events if we have no intention of learning from them. Don't get me wrong, making a mistake is the only way to learn sometimes, but some mistakes don't need to be replicated to be learned. Learn your mistakes and pass them on, make every generation stronger.

With that said: Do whatever makes you happy and who cares about any nay sayers, they aren't looking out for your best interests anyway. If "shock jocks" give you pure pleasure and help you get through the day, more power to you. But, I like to spend my time improving upon my situation and my kids' situations and my kids' kids' situations. Darwinism isn't anything new...

[hanso]

I play O&A every morning from the past days show while I work.
I like mindless humor to get me through the work day.

This morning it turned out I had R&F file not O&A (I catch R&F replays late nights). Well it did not matter to me as I like both shows just the same.

R&F and O&A are like salt to pepper they complete each other.

As with any show if you only play that one you will grow weary of it. And change can be good.

If folks fall in line with the likes of fox news then the term shock jock just rolls off there backs.
I was playing Howard back when he was on fm. On the day that did him in. (talk of anal sex). To me this was nothing out of the norm. And was later at odds as to why that was the end of fm.

Cringy mindless humor or talk of things many adults enjoy on any given day should not be seen as shocking. I only hope one day this is how main stream media views it.

[conman823]

Well when O&A was playing around with the electric mouse trap, that was pretty shocking (* pat from moonachie voice *) maaah maaah maah.

:happy: Give yerself a bell!!

[silks]

No, I love hearing about cocks and AIDS for a few straight hours.

[yojimbo7248]

I'll handle this. I'm an Administrator now.

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Holy shit, Gvac an Administrator? Is wackbag still taking applications?

[yojimbo7248]

Yesterday's interview with Brian Greene is the kind of radio that sets R&F apart. Ron asked excellent, interesting questions and really connected with the guy. I wish there could be more segments like this and less pro-wrestling chuckwagon fight-type stuff.

I briefly tuned in to O&A and they were taking to a Navy SEAL about how tough their training is. I'm very interesting in special forces training and I'd love hear from some SAS guy or Delta or another SEAL but O&A were talking like 16 year old boys. "Dude, I would be out of there in, like, three minutes...""wow, these guys are bad-ass"

I know, I know - don't listen. I don't. very, very rarely do I tune in to the O&A show and the only reason is I really like Louie CK and will listen if he is on, especially if he is ripping PaulO a new asshole.

Ron just talks to the people he interviews like an intelligent adult. I also like what Dave brings to the show. I think those two provide a nice mix between thoughtful and idiotic.

[TjM]

I hear ya. I like allot of the things they do but I just fail to find the humor in a guy raping a chicken

[TjM]

I gave up on O & A years ago. One of the tipping points is the whole "retard joke" My nephew has Downs Syndrome and I really never found it funny to make a joke about. In addition alot of the cringy shit is really lazy comedy. Rather than try to be creative with something to just go back to Mike Brady had AIDS AGAIN.
Since they added the Sirius channels I havent listened to O& A at all. I d rather listen to Grateful Dead radio.

Yeah. Even before my mom had and died of breast cancer I never found cancer funny. I'm weird that way

[TripleSkeet]

This thread kind of makes me laugh. I love how so many people think the Ron & Fez show is based on intellectual conversation.

I think Ronny B. is one of the funniest and most brilliant minds in radio, but the show itself isnt intellectual radio. They make just as many crude jokes as O & A do. Ron just has a dryer sense of humor about him.

I dont know, sometimes it just feel like alot of the Ron & Fez fans show this snobby "better then thou" attitude over the O & A listeners. And Im one of the ones that actually like Ron & Fez better.

[conman823]

This thread kind of makes me laugh. I love how so many people think the Ron & Fez show is based on intellectual conversation.

I think Ronny B. is one of the funniest and most brilliant minds in radio, but the show itself isnt intellectual radio. They make just as many crude jokes as O & A do. Ron just has a dryer sense of humor about him.

I dont know, sometimes it just feel like alot of the Ron & Fez fans show this snobby "better then thou" attitude over the O & A listeners. And Im one of the ones that actually like Ron & Fez better.

HAHAHA!! I feel the same way. Its almost like if you like Ron and Fez you drink fine wine, if you like O&A its Beer.

Please Ronnie B is no better then the guys on O&A. Lets not forget he let Jimmy on the air to blast Al Roker, which was awful "Shock Jockery". There are plenty of examples to go around.

Oh and for everyone who says its all AIDS and Dick jokes on O&A, well they actively promote that.

Ron goes on the air constantly and tell us that everything is "Shit" and we all live like "Animals" because we don't live like Ron.

[TjM]

This thread kind of makes me laugh. I love how so many people think the Ron & Fez show is based on intellectual conversation.

I think Ronny B. is one of the funniest and most brilliant minds in radio, but the show itself isnt intellectual radio. They make just as many crude jokes as O & A do. Ron just has a dryer sense of humor about him.

I dont know, sometimes it just feel like alot of the Ron & Fez fans show this snobby "better then thou" attitude over the O & A listeners. And Im one of the ones that actually like Ron & Fez better.

I should clarilfy.


I love O&A but even in the days when Stern would have Wendy or Gary I would tune out. I've never found picking on the weak/aids/cancer jokes/ the word nigger funny

Most other things they do I find funny. I don't want this to come off like I'm on a high horse. I'm certainly not

[Gvac]

I think there's a lot of truth to what you say, and I think it's because Ron and Fez have always played second fiddle to O & A, from WNEW to XM to Sirius.

It's borne out of frustration.

I guess it's like being a New York Mets/Jets fan and seeing the Yankees and Giants dominate the sports pages.

[spoon]

This thread kind of makes me laugh. I love how so many people think the Ron & Fez show is based on intellectual conversation.

I think Ronny B. is one of the funniest and most brilliant minds in radio, but the show itself isnt intellectual radio. They make just as many crude jokes as O & A do. Ron just has a dryer sense of humor about him.

I dont know, sometimes it just feel like alot of the Ron & Fez fans show this snobby "better then thou" attitude over the O & A listeners. And Im one of the ones that actually like Ron & Fez better.

HAHAHA!! I feel the same way. Its almost like if you like Ron and Fez you drink fine wine, if you like O&A its Beer.

Please Ronnie B is no better then the guys on O&A. Lets not forget he let Jimmy on the air to blast Al Roker, which was awful "Shock Jockery". There are plenty of examples to go around.

Oh and for everyone who says its all AIDS and Dick jokes on O&A, well they actively promote that.

Ron goes on the air constantly and tell us that everything is "Shit" and we all live like "Animals" because we don't live like Ron.

I drink beer and wine.

[JackieJokeMan]

My nephew has Downs Syndrome.

Well look at the bright side. At least you won't have to shell out for a wedding present.

LOL

[TripleSkeet]

I think there's a lot of truth to what you say, and I think it's because Ron and Fez have always played second fiddle to O & A, from WNEW to XM to Sirius.

It's borne out of frustration.

I guess it's like being a New York Mets/Jets fan and seeing the Yankees and Giants dominate the sports pages.

I know what you mean, but In this case, I actually like that. I know its selfish but I like knowing I get to enjoy something so great that others miss out on, even though I do promote the show to friend (Only a handful have tried it and are now faithful listeners)

And I think not having the spotlight on them keeps them accesible and makes the show feel more like a tightknit group of people.

I personally love when they mention the boards and when theyd talk on Paltalk. The aftershow meetings were the greatest things ever. I know some people dont like it but hey thats their opinion. Personally I think its alot cooler to be able to give an opinion to someone whos work I enjoy and have them actually recognize it rather then just have them be some untouchable celebrity.

[ToiletCrusher]

If I wanted your opinions I'd give them to you then gag you so I couldn't hear them!

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[STC-Dub]

Crap, we can't hang up on you.

[weav]

Ron and Fez is the perfect mix of crude jokes and good content. O&A is still pretty good, but I turn off all the 'cringe-worthy' stuff like throwing poker chips or Steve from Yellowstone calls.

Howard's schtick is so old and played out...I loved in in 1995 when it was finally syndicated to Portland, but it got real old, real quick...besides, Billy West was the best part of the show, once he and jackie were gone it was like 'whats the point'?

I find Ellis barely listenable...mostly garbage

[Dan 'Hampton]

Ron and Fez is the perfect mix of crude jokes and good content. O&A is still pretty good, but I turn off all the 'cringe-worthy' stuff like throwing poker chips or Steve from Yellowstone calls.

Howard's schtick is so old and played out...I loved in in 1995 when it was finally syndicated to Portland, but it got real old, real quick...besides, Billy West was the best part of the show, once he and jackie were gone it was like 'whats the point'?

I find Ellis barely listenable...mostly garbage

When was the last time that happend? 2 years ago?

[weav]

Just an example my man. Overall I still like their show, I just spend most of my listening time on RnF.