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Gvac
06-10-2009, 04:55 PM
Ron started the show with an interesting question today - do those who have been gifted with an amazing talent have an obligation to their fellow man to share it with the world, or is it up to the individual to decide whether they fulfill their potential or turn their back on it?

If their creativity relies on their discontent, should the artist do what he or she must to remain that way and not seek happiness?

britneypablo
06-10-2009, 05:01 PM
<font color="deeppink"> obligated to share it, or at least try

BlackSpider
06-10-2009, 05:03 PM
I've kept most of my talents to myself...

britneypablo
06-10-2009, 05:06 PM
I've kept most of my talents to myself...

<font color="deeppink"> i already told u to send the masturbation video to my email....:wallbash:

Drunky McBetidont
06-10-2009, 05:07 PM
if maslow is correct, this comes later in life. a strong desire to share wisdom and improve the world. leave this place better than you came into it. he called it self-actualization and thought it was the highest level of maturity. socrates and aristotle had similar views on philantropy and teaching/mentoring as well.

DarkHippie
06-10-2009, 05:07 PM
its a moot point since every person should be doing their best to help humanity

ToiletCrusher
06-10-2009, 05:07 PM
I think it solely depends on the nature of the talent.

If it is something that can better society in any way, then yes, share it.

However, should this talent make the person who bears it in any way resentful that they must share it with the world, then no. Keep it for yourself.

The question also begs a follow up of whether or not obligation to society is a selfless act.

Foster
06-10-2009, 05:08 PM
I tried to share my talents, but they weren't appreciated

dino_electropolis
06-10-2009, 05:10 PM
its a moot point since every person should be doing their best to help humanity

What are ya, some kinda hippie?

britneypablo
06-10-2009, 05:12 PM
I tried to share my talents, but they weren't appreciated

<font color="deeppink"> I APPRECIATE YOU! ....i mean what is ur talent anyways?

boosterp
06-10-2009, 05:28 PM
Because of my service to this country and contributing all I could to medical knowledge during my research career I feel it is time for a bit of selfishness. I am searchable in medical journals and now I want to keep me to a few of people as possible for the near future.

Tall_James
06-10-2009, 05:30 PM
Because of my service to this country and contributing all I could to medical knowledge during my research career I feel it is time for a bit of selfishness. I am searchable in medical journals and now I want to keep me to a few of people as possible for the near future.

That seems fair to me.

underdog
06-10-2009, 05:37 PM
No one has an obligation to anyone but themselves.

boosterp
06-10-2009, 05:41 PM
That seems fair to me.

Truly, thank you. 16 years was enough for me.

Gvac
06-10-2009, 05:41 PM
No one has an obligation to anyone but themselves.

Ayn Rand would agree.

I'm not so sure.

Aren't our concepts of government and society based around improving life for others, not just the self?

Don't you also find it a little strange that some people give so much importance to themselves and their fleeting lives?

underdog
06-10-2009, 05:45 PM
Ayn Rand would agree.

I'm not so sure.

Aren't our concepts of government and society based around improving life for others, not just the self?

But I do not believe that government and society are an obligation; I believe they are choices from moral men.

Don't you also find it a little strange that some people give so much importance to themselves and their fleeting lives?

Yes, but I usually don't associate with those people anymore.

boosterp
06-10-2009, 05:47 PM
Don't you also find it a little strange that some people give so much importance to themselves and their fleeting lives?

Is that directed towards me?

Gvac
06-10-2009, 05:48 PM
I think it solely depends on the nature of the talent.

If it is something that can better society in any way, then yes, share it.

And exactly what is the litmus test as to what "betters society" in some way?

I think a lot of people fail to realize how many lives they touch, even if they don't fully understand or appreciate it.

FezsAssistant
06-10-2009, 05:56 PM
What about the opposite? People with no talent or passion, but remain on the air and collect a paycheck?

CofyCrakCocaine
06-10-2009, 05:57 PM
Absolutely fucking not. Nobody is obliged in that way. That's no different from saying Fate exists. It doesn't.

BlackSpider
06-10-2009, 05:59 PM
and so it begins again...

CofyCrakCocaine
06-10-2009, 06:03 PM
and so it begins again...

A gangland rape of teenagers by questionables such as yourself from the comfort of the back of the ice cream truck?

BlackSpider
06-10-2009, 06:04 PM
A gangland rape of teenagers by questionables such as yourself from the comfort of the back of the ice cream truck?

My post was directed at the one above yours...

CofyCrakCocaine
06-10-2009, 06:07 PM
My post was directed at the one above yours...

My post was directed at your modquote, in a 'don't-care' kinda way. :dry:

But with love.

RCbandit
06-10-2009, 06:09 PM
I have to agree with some of the other posts on this one. It would mainly depend on the type of talent we are speaking of. Didnt this come up after shortly after talking about John Lennon being put on the yoko leash? I love The Beatles, and wish they had continued long enough for me to enter this earth, but I dont think a musician is obligated to make music in a specific way, or to make it at all if they are talented. I would say this for any artist or film maker as well.
As far as other talents, I believe there are some people that should strongly consider sharing with the world. For example, a brilliant mind that can cure some awful illness and save lifes.

biozombie
06-10-2009, 06:14 PM
I once said "hey Humanity, how's it going? can I get you a coke?", Humanity refused & called me "low class". You're on your own now, Humanity.

Also, I don't really see how John Lennon fits into this. The dude took a 5 year vacation to hang out with his kid & was getting back to work when he got shot.

hammersavage
06-10-2009, 06:17 PM
I've kept most of my talents to myself...

Most?

Foster
06-10-2009, 06:39 PM
<font color="deeppink"> I APPRECIATE YOU! ....i mean what is ur talent anyways?

and I appreciate you, but in reality I have no talents, hidden or otherwise :down:

Gvac
06-10-2009, 06:40 PM
Would everyone agree that rating the importance and merits of art is completely subjective?

Perhaps what we see as "great" art is what we identify with at the time. Maybe when we're not satisfied or content in our lives we feel strongly about works that reflect that.

Foster
06-10-2009, 06:47 PM
Would everyone agree that rating the importance and merits of art is completely subjective?

Perhaps what we see as "great" art is what we identify with at the time. Maybe when we're not satisfied or content in our lives we feel strongly about works that reflect that.

art is definitely subjective, and our state of mind certainly has an impact on how we view it.

Kris10
06-10-2009, 07:01 PM
I talentless, how do I share that with society?

underdog
06-10-2009, 07:02 PM
I talentless, how do I share that with society?

With your vagina.

IMSlacker
06-10-2009, 07:09 PM
What about the opposite? People with no talent or passion, but remain on the air and collect a paycheck?

Or people who hate a particular radio show and message board dedicated to it, but continue to post their nonsense about that radio show on that message board.

Marc with a c
06-10-2009, 07:21 PM
sharing my talents has taken me to wilkes barre, pa to a bunch of talentless ingrates.

Foster
06-10-2009, 07:24 PM
sharing my talents has taken me to wilkes barre, pa to a bunch of talentless ingrates.

so they should be grateful for being talentless?

Marc with a c
06-10-2009, 07:26 PM
so they should be grateful for being talentless?

what else do they have going for them?

Serpico1103
06-10-2009, 07:28 PM
Ron started the show with an interesting question today - do those who have been gifted with an amazing talent have an obligation to their fellow man to share it with the world, or is it up to the individual to decide whether they fulfill their potential or turn their back on it?

If their creativity relies on their discontent, should the artist do what he or she must to remain that way and not seek happiness?

Not sure how this is even a debatable question. Forcing people to share their art doesn't sound in line with the respect for freedom that Ron usually shows.
Perhaps encouraging it, with grants, protecting expression, incentivizing art over "commercial art."

BinaryTaoist
06-10-2009, 07:32 PM
I think there is an appropriate time and place for both; which, if done well, will mesh seamlessly with the world around you.

biggirl
06-10-2009, 07:50 PM
It depends on the talent for sure. If you are fantastic in bed..I really don't think you should be sharing that with the world, physically, anyway.

Kris10
06-10-2009, 07:52 PM
With your vagina.

well my vagina is a talent but i don't want to share it with just anyone

codenhead
06-10-2009, 08:37 PM
You know...a couple years back I was reading my old Calvin and Hobbes comic collection...and I just felt a rage against the author Bill Watterson...I mean wtf...he had a huge following and he just left everyone behind. He owes us some new shit.

tanless1
06-10-2009, 09:17 PM
exercise your gift, not exploit to point of self-destruction.