ls it all over now, baby blue?

[Obadiah 1329]

Hoo Hoo's channels are now available on XM internet. Why are they giving this away for "free"?

1. Hoo Hoo has 2 channels. So there is almost always a channel available without commercials.

2. The Virus has 1 channel and an incredible # of commercials, each of which is exquisitely annoying.

3. When faced with the commercials on Virus, what you gonna do? Turn to Hoo Hoo?

4. Once the #s show that Hoo Hoo is getting more hits than Virus, bye bye Virus.

5. We are fucked.

6. Therefore, to preserve the O&A/R&F, I suggest you never click on Hoo Hoo -- if the Virus commercials are killing you, just turn the sound down and play solitaire or read or turn on the TV or try another channel.

I''m just saying.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I''m just saying.

And I'm just saying you're a fucking idiot.


Look at what Howard makes.


What do O&A and R&F make?

Of course they need to push Howard because they need to increase his listener base to boost ad rates.

[drjoek]

Since when is Howie Hampton free?

[epo]

Stop taking Bob Dylan in vain!

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[Tenbatsuzen]

Hoo Hoo's channels are now available on XM internet. Why are they giving this away for "free"?

1. Hoo Hoo has 2 channels. So there is almost always a channel available without commercials.



The second channel is basically replays of the first channel. And both have a heavy commercial load, on par with 202.


2. The Virus has 1 channel and an incredible # of commercials, each of which is exquisitely annoying.


Welcome to radio advertising! You're just learning this?


3. When faced with the commercials on Virus, what you gonna do? Turn to Hoo Hoo?


Intriguingly enough, XM has about 100 channels that don't offer Howard.


4. Once the #s show that Hoo Hoo is getting more hits than Virus, bye bye Virus.


Well, Virus has more listeners than Raw Dog and POTUS. I don't see those channels going anywhere.


5. We are fucked.


Since we're using pest venacular, I will too. ARE WE?


6. Therefore, to preserve the O&A/R&F, I suggest you never click on Hoo Hoo -- if the Virus commercials are killing you, just turn the sound down and play solitaire or read or turn on the TV or try another channel.


Please keep your stupidity to a minimum. Thanks!

[mikeyboy]

The second channel is basically replays of the first channel. And both have a heavy commercial load, on par with 202.



Welcome to radio advertising! You're just learning this?



Intriguingly enough, XM has about 100 channels that don't offer Howard.



Well, Virus has more listeners than Raw Dog and POTUS. I don't see those channels going anywhere.



Since we're using pest venacular, I will too. ARE WE?



Please keep your stupidity to a minimum. Thanks!

I know radio is a hot button topic for you, but could you at least attempt to respond without being an asshole?

[underdog]

Since when is Howie Hampton free?

I was wondering the same thing. It wasn't free this afternoon.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I know radio is a hot button topic for you, but could you at least attempt to respond without being an asshole?

Would you like your water to be less wet as well?

[underdog]

I know radio is a hot button topic for you, but could you at least attempt to respond without being an asshole?

No, he cannot.

[mikeyboy]

Would you like your water to be less wet as well?

I can always put up a dam.

[paulisded]

No, he cannot.

In this case, I agree with the response. I'm beyond tired of the conspiracy theories (Mel's out to get the BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBbbbboys!). Promoting Howard's channels are no different than promoting the dumb DMB channel, or anything else. And for those that believe the garbage that the Virus is never promoted, I have heard promos on other channels. Maddog even has a promo for satellite radio where O&A are singled out.

[drjoek]

No, he cannot.

Agreed

[Tenbatsuzen]

In this case, I agree with the response. I'm beyond tired of the conspiracy theories (Mel's out to get the BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBbbbboys!). Promoting Howard's channels are no different than promoting the dumb DMB channel, or anything else. And for those that believe the garbage that the Virus is never promoted, I have heard promos on other channels. Maddog even has a promo for satellite radio where O&A are singled out.

12 posts, numbers in screen name, here for less than a year. It's like a perfect storm of newbie scum.

They are so fucking programmed to believe that Howard is the enemy, and it's not fucking 2000 anymore. They work for the same company AND THERE IS NO FUCKING BENEFIT TO SIRIUS TO DUMP O&A AND R&F. They KNOW they have a strong listener base for both shows.

Is it dumb that Howard, a morning show, is being promoted when O&A are on live? YES. But that's more of a stupid management move that Opie is already aware of (as tweeted) than some sort of "Mel Karmazin is going to fire O&A."

If Mel wanted O&A gone, HE WOULDN'T HAVE RE-SIGNED THEM TO A FUCKING CONTRACT.

[boosterp]

I have to agree with everything Matty posted, he makes a reasonable argument

[mikeyboy]

12 posts, numbers in screen name, here for less than a year. It's like a perfect storm of newbie scum.

They are so fucking programmed to believe that Howard is the enemy, and it's not fucking 2000 anymore. They work for the same company AND THERE IS NO FUCKING BENEFIT TO SIRIUS TO DUMP O&A AND R&F. They KNOW they have a strong listener base for both shows.

Is it dumb that Howard, a morning show, is being promoted when O&A are on live? YES. But that's more of a stupid management move that Opie is already aware of (as tweeted) than some sort of "Mel Karmazin is going to fire O&A."

If Mel wanted O&A gone, HE WOULDN'T HAVE RE-SIGNED THEM TO A FUCKING CONTRACT.


Stop being a douche

[drjoek]

12 posts, numbers in screen name, here for less than a year. It's like a perfect storm of newbie scum.

They are so fucking programmed to believe that Howard is the enemy, and it's not fucking 2000 anymore. They work for the same company AND THERE IS NO FUCKING BENEFIT TO SIRIUS TO DUMP O&A AND R&F. They KNOW they have a strong listener base for both shows.

Is it dumb that Howard, a morning show, is being promoted when O&A are on live? YES. But that's more of a stupid management move that Opie is already aware of (as tweeted) than some sort of "Mel Karmazin is going to fire O&A."

If Mel wanted O&A gone, HE WOULDN'T HAVE RE-SIGNED THEM TO A FUCKING CONTRACT.



Yep
Still an asshole

[underdog]

Stop being a douche

Would you like your water to be less wet as well?

[mikeyboy]

yes

[CofyCrakCocaine]

12 posts, numbers in screen name, here for less than a year. It's like a perfect storm of newbie scum.

They are so fucking programmed to believe that Howard is the enemy, and it's not fucking 2000 anymore. They work for the same company AND THERE IS NO FUCKING BENEFIT TO SIRIUS TO DUMP O&A AND R&F. They KNOW they have a strong listener base for both shows.

Is it dumb that Howard, a morning show, is being promoted when O&A are on live? YES. But that's more of a stupid management move that Opie is already aware of (as tweeted) than some sort of "Mel Karmazin is going to fire O&A."

If Mel wanted O&A gone, HE WOULDN'T HAVE RE-SIGNED THEM TO A FUCKING CONTRACT.

It's not your fault, Matt Damon.

[boosterp]

Stop being a douche

Really though, minus the perceived personal attack Matty does make valid points.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Obidiah's last attempt at a thread:

http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2233812#post2233812

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Really though, minus the perceived personal attack Matty does make valid points.

Most people here lob valid point stun grenades. His valid points are full-frag incendiaries.

[monkfish]

If Mel wanted O&A gone, HE WOULDN'T HAVE RE-SIGNED THEM TO A FUCKING CONTRACT.

Their contracts were up for renewal not too long after the merger completed. Mel testified in front of Congress that the merger would offer customers more choice and would not result in a substantial reduction in offerings. Offing one of the cornerstone shows less than three months after the merger closed could come back to bite Mel in the ass.

[drjoek]

Obidiah's last attempt at a thread:

http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2233812#post2233812



Yep
Still an asshole

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Yep
Still an asshole

Yep
Still an oral rapist

[Tenbatsuzen]

Their contracts were up for renewal not too long after the merger completed. Mel testified in front of Congress that the merger would offer customers more choice and would not result in a substantial reduction in offerings. Offing one of the cornerstone shows less than three months after the merger closed could come back to bite Mel in the ass.

Uh... they merged all the channels that were redundant and cut a ton of jobs. Are you trying to tell me that signing two talents that command million+ salaries to a contract that mel doesn't plan on having them on-air the entire time was just smoke and mirrors?

Mel's cut choices, raised the rates, and trying for sneaky fees. I think if he wanted O&A gone, that wouldn't have been a problem for him.

And Mojo, go fuck yourself. Posting a link to someone's past thread to show that their aren't exactly sincere in being pro O&A and R&F isn't insulting other members.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Most people here lob valid point stun grenades. His valid points are full-frag incendiaries.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ENK9LDwYuX0/SHUMR0_SFuI/AAAAAAAAAYo/Yw-hRmUDZoY/s400/John%2BSpartan.jpg

[paulisded]

I know I'm missing some past history, but I don't see how Matty's being a douche here.

[monkfish]

Uh... they merged all the channels that were redundant and cut a ton of jobs. Are you trying to tell me that signing two talents that command million+ salaries to a contract that mel doesn't plan on having them on-air the entire time was just smoke and mirrors?


When he testified in front of the Judiciary Committee he did state that there would be some sort consolidation of complementary channels on the two sides to take advantage of the synergies (both in terms of talent and support staff.)

[Tenbatsuzen]

When he testified in front of the Judiciary Committee he did state that there would be some sort consolidation of complementary channels on the two sides to take advantage of the synergies (both in terms of talent and support staff.)

Yeah, and to a senator who is not a "pest", Howard 100 and Virus are essentially complementary channels.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I know I'm missing some past history, but I don't see how Matty's being a douche here.

Just pure silence!


Let's be nicey-nice to the guy who's posting misinformation and get other people who may not understand what is going all whipped up into a froth!

But let's all attack the guy who comes to the forefront with logic, facts, and knowledge who acts dismissively to the guy who is trying to start shit.

As always, I'm the asshole.

[drjoek]

Just pure silence!


Let's be nicey-nice to the guy who's posting misinformation and get other people who may not understand what is going all whipped up into a froth!

But let's all attack the guy who comes to the forefront with logic, facts, and knowledge who acts dismissively to the guy who is trying to start shit.

As always, I'm the asshole.



Yep
Still an...


Ah
nevermind

[Slumbag]

In this case, I agree with the response. I'm beyond tired of the conspiracy theories (Mel's out to get the BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBbbbboys!).
You're 100% right.
That is without question my least favorite thing on 202 boards. Everyone thinks they are a radio insider.

[mikeyboy]

Just pure silence!


Let's be nicey-nice to the guy who's posting misinformation and get other people who may not understand what is going all whipped up into a froth!

But let's all attack the guy who comes to the forefront with logic, facts, and knowledge who acts dismissively to the guy who is trying to start shit.

As always, I'm the asshole.

Yes, you are.

And I'm just saying you're a fucking idiot.


Please keep your stupidity to a minimum. Thanks!

Of course any person with the tiniest of filters could refute this guy's points without being a dick about it. Matty can't, or rather he chooses not to for a while when he thinks he's on thin ice and will throw one in every so often.

[TheMojoPin]

I know I'm missing some past history, but I don't see how Matty's being a douche here.

Ah, alright, so since this guy posted a cockamamie radio theory that Matty disagrees with, that's license for him to personally attack the guy out of nowhere.

[Hottub]

Ah, alright, so since this guy posted a cockamamie radio theory that Matty disagrees with, that's license for him to personally attack the guy out of nowhere.

Matty 101.

Duh.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yes, you are.





Of course any person with the tiniest of filters could refute this guy's points without being a dick about it. Matty can't, or rather he chooses not to for a while when he thinks he's on thin ice and will throw one in every so often.

The guy was being a shit-stirring poster to start, how did you expect me to react?

Do you see me flying off the handle if someone had a well-thought out post?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Ah, alright, so since this guy posted a cockamamie radio theory that Matty disagrees with, that's license for him to personally attack the guy out of nowhere.

Besides calling him stupid, how did I attack him? Considering how many people fell for the gag that Gvac was an admin, how do you think shit like this would be taken as truth by people who are scared enough as is with all the changes at Sirius and XM?

[mikeyboy]

The guy was being a shit-stirring poster to start, how did you expect me to react?

Do you see me flying off the handle if someone had a well-thought out post?

Let someone else handle it because you clearly can't.

[mikeyboy]

Besides calling him stupid, how did I attack him? Considering how many people fell for the gag that Gvac was an admin, how do you think shit like this would be taken as truth by people who are scared enough as is with all the changes at Sirius and XM?

It was the very first thing you posted. Besides that's more than enough. There's no way you can justify this behavior so give it up.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Let someone else handle it because you clearly can't.

Oh, stop acting like I jumped into the thread, called everyone a cunt, and ran out screaming expletives. You're creating more of a problem right now than the initial issue.

Was I dick? Yes. But the guy was an idiot who clearly does not know what he's talking about and I'm getting sick of people who don't know what they are talking about turning into some sort of XM202 Truther.

This isn't "Radio Matty". This isn't "Insider Matty". This is "Logical Matty".

[mikeyboy]

Oh, stop acting like I jumped into the thread, called everyone a cunt, and ran out screaming expletives. You're creating more of a problem right now than the initial issue.

Was I dick? Yes. But the guy was an idiot who clearly does not know what he's talking about and I'm getting sick of people who don't know what they are talking about turning into some sort of XM202 Truther.

This isn't "Radio Matty". This isn't "Insider Matty". This is "Logical Matty".

You really don't get it. You were being a dick. You've been warned about this many times. Just give it up.

[drjoek]

Oh, stop acting like I jumped into the thread, called everyone a cunt, and ran out screaming expletives. You're creating more of a problem right now than the initial issue.

Was I dick? Yes. But the guy was an idiot who clearly does not know what he's talking about and I'm getting sick of people who don't know what they are talking about turning into some sort of XM202 Truther.

This isn't "Radio Matty". This isn't "Insider Matty". This is "Logical Matty".


This is "Asshole Matty"

[TooLowBrow]

all of you cunts oughta stop posting on this shitty board that follows a no talent, hack radio show


fuck, shit, asshole, baba booyey!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Let someone else handle it because you clearly can't.

Their contracts were up for renewal not too long after the merger completed. Mel testified in front of Congress that the merger would offer customers more choice and would not result in a substantial reduction in offerings. Offing one of the cornerstone shows less than three months after the merger closed could come back to bite Mel in the ass.

Uh... they merged all the channels that were redundant and cut a ton of jobs. Are you trying to tell me that signing two talents that command million+ salaries to a contract that mel doesn't plan on having them on-air the entire time was just smoke and mirrors?

Mel's cut choices, raised the rates, and trying for sneaky fees. I think if he wanted O&A gone, that wouldn't have been a problem for him.



When he testified in front of the Judiciary Committee he did state that there would be some sort consolidation of complementary channels on the two sides to take advantage of the synergies (both in terms of talent and support staff.)

Yeah, and to a senator who is not a "pest", Howard 100 and Virus are essentially complementary channels.



Of course any person with the tiniest of filters could refute this guy's points without being a dick about it. Matty can't, or rather he chooses not to for a while when he thinks he's on thin ice and will throw one in every so often.

I'll wait for your apology, Mikey.

[mikeyboy]

I'll wait for your apology, Mikey.

Look at my last quote. I made it clear that acting like a dick is clearly your own choice. I guess the real point is that you have really shitty judgment on which choice to make

[Tenbatsuzen]

Look at my last quote. I made it clear that acting like a dick is clearly your own choice. I guess the real point is that you have really shitty judgment on which choice to make

I only act like a dick when warranted. This was such a case.


...what were we talking about again?

[mikeyboy]

I only act like a dick when warranted. This was such a case.


...what were we talking about again?

No it wasn't. You didn't agree with the guy, so you deemed that he should get the Matty treatment, and it's plain retarded.

[Serpico1103]

I know radio is a hot button topic for you, but could you at least attempt to respond without being an asshole?

Give him the benefit of the doubt.
He attempted, and failed.

He thinks the poster's idiocy is an affirmative defense for his assholeness. But, don't chase him away. Who else would enlighten us with their radio insider knowledge?

[Space Edge]

I bet you he signed up for the Best of Sirius package or he noticed that the channels were there a few weeks ago when they were doing the free Best of Sirius run.

In this case, I agree with the response. I'm beyond tired of the conspiracy theories (Mel's out to get the BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBbbbboys!). Promoting Howard's channels are no different than promoting the dumb DMB channel, or anything else. And for those that believe the garbage that the Virus is never promoted, I have heard promos on other channels. Maddog even has a promo for satellite radio where O&A are singled out.

I've heard Robin do live reads for the Best of XM package a few times during her news. I love how the blind spin things

[Space Edge]

Oh, stop acting like I jumped into the thread, called everyone a cunt, and ran out screaming expletives. You're creating more of a problem right now than the initial issue.

Was I dick? Yes. But the guy was an idiot who clearly does not know what he's talking about and I'm getting sick of people who don't know what they are talking about turning into some sort of XM202 Truther.

This isn't "Radio Matty". This isn't "Insider Matty". This is "Logical Matty".

Give him the benefit of the doubt.
He attempted, and failed.

He thinks the poster's idiocy is an affirmative defense for his assholeness. But, don't chase him away. Who else would enlighten us with their radio insider knowledge?

Ok I'll bite, what did you do in radio ? You seem to mention it every chance you can And what makes you think that your the only one that works/has worked in the broadcast field here ?

[Serpico1103]

Ok I'll bite, what did you do in radio ? You seem to mention it every chance you can And what makes you think that your the only one that works/has worked in the broadcast field here ?

Asking me?
My experience in the broadcast field is as a listener. Never inferred anything more.

[STC-Dub]

Brilliant idea. Advertisers love it when you deliberately decrease the number of listeners to a channel they advertise on. Plus those channels aren't free and most people are not sitting by their radios changing channels every time there is a commercial.

[Sue_Bender]

I think we've all learned something here.

Please, someone....

tell me what. :unsure:

[Space Edge]

Asking me?
My experience in the broadcast field is as a listener. Never inferred anything more.

Not you , I was referring to tenbats post I think i hit the multi quote button on accident, sorry bout that.

[TjM]

Hoo Hoo's channels are now available on XM internet. Why are they giving this away for "free"?

1. Hoo Hoo has 2 channels. So there is almost always a channel available without commercials.

2. The Virus has 1 channel and an incredible # of commercials, each of which is exquisitely annoying.

3. When faced with the commercials on Virus, what you gonna do? Turn to Hoo Hoo?

4. Once the #s show that Hoo Hoo is getting more hits than Virus, bye bye Virus.

5. We are fucked.

6. Therefore, to preserve the O&A/R&F, I suggest you never click on Hoo Hoo -- if the Virus commercials are killing you, just turn the sound down and play solitaire or read or turn on the TV or try another channel.

I''m just saying.

What if I listen to both channels and like all three shows :help:

[Obadiah 1329]

FWIW, I did not sign up for the Best of Sirius package but am still getting the Howard channels on XM internet.

It's hilarious that people get so worked up about my occasional snarky comments about radio shows.

I especially liked the AHAH! big-reveal about my prior post.

[Space Edge]

FWIW, I did not sign up for the Best of Sirius package but am still getting the Howard channels on XM internet.

It's hilarious that people get so worked up about my occasional snarky comments about radio shows.

I especially liked the AHAH! big-reveal about my prior post.

Well your getting them for free consider yourself lucky.

[styckx]

This thread was a fun read and beat down. And god damn I cringe every time I hear someone still using the term "hoo hoo" like it's one of the most derogatory things you can call him and he's reading the thread himself and in a fit of rage seeing someone call him that.

[3Setsof10]

I liked the "we're fucked" part

How, exactly, would that be? As Matty pointed out they were recently re-signed

I hate that inclusiveness shit, like "we" would fall apart if a radio show went off the air.

[Goatweed]

I was hoping that cute little Ban Hamster would show up - he's so cuddly!