A new Mt. Rushmore (of presidents)

[ToiletCrusher]

After Teddy Roosevelt, has there been any four presidents that you would put up on a new monument?

Also, why?

[Dudeman]

before anyone tries it, I'm going to say NOT Reagan.

[Snoogans]

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[ToiletCrusher]

I never wanted to laugh at something and stab the person who posted it more than now.

[A.J.]

Ike.

[Snoogans]

I never wanted to laugh at something and stab the person who posted it more than now.

You can't deny your love for Pedro Cerano

[EliSnow]

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:clap:

[ToiletCrusher]

You can't deny your love for Pedro Cerano

And, that's the reason! Well played!

[TheMojoPin]

FDR, I guess. LBJ would be close for his domestic policies, but his foreign policy disasters are too much to ignore.

I really can't think of any that would have to be up there.

[spankyfrank]

I don't think we have honestly had 1 president since who could compare with those four, most of them just try to keep the ball rollin'.

[Snoogans]

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This is OUR Independance Day!

[Doogie]

FDR, I guess. LBJ would be close for his domestic policies, but his foreign policy disasters are too much to ignore.

I really can't think of any that would have to be up there.

I would pick Millard Fillmore before I pick LBJ...LBJ is the absolute last name on my list. Even after Carter.

My pick...Woodrow Wilson.

[MacVittie]

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[HBox]

FDR. And if Obama ends being at least an average President you'd have to put him up there for being the first black President.

[Snoogans]

sorry TC, you are SO done

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TWO FOR THE PRICE OF ONE

[HBox]

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[Doogie]

FDR. And if Obama ends being at least an average President you'd have to put him up there for being the first black President.

We are six months in and you already want to put him on Mt. Rushmore?? I understand your point about being first black president, but what has he accomplished yet. What makes him on the same level as those already on Mt. Rushmore?? I think you are wayyyyyyy too pre-mature on saying this one.

[EliSnow]

I'm Andrew Shepard, and I AM the President of the United States of America.

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[Snoogans]

We are six months in and you already want to put him on Mt. Rushmore?? I understand your point about being first black president, but what has he accomplished yet. What makes him on the same level as those already on Mt. Rushmore?? I think you are wayyyyyyy too pre-mature on saying this one.

you are gettin off topic from the actor presidents bit

[Doogie]

you are gettin off topic from the actor presidents bit

If that was the bit, I missed it. I was out doing some errands...

Here is my choice since we are on that topic:

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[EliSnow]

you are gettin off topic from the actor presidents bit

God, I hate people who can't stay on topic.

[HBox]

We are six months in and you already want to put him on Mt. Rushmore?? I understand your point about being first black president, but what has he accomplished yet. What makes him on the same level as those already on Mt. Rushmore?? I think you are wayyyyyyy too pre-mature on saying this one.

I understand you have this idea that you think no one is looking at Obama critically and instead are worshiping him irrationally. However, I would ask you to read what I posted again.

And if Obama ends being at least an average President you'd have to put him up there for being the first black President.

[Gvac]

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[PhishHead]

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[Snoogans]

I understand you have this idea that you think no one is looking at Obama critically and instead are worshiping him irrationally. However, I would ask you to read what I posted again.

Ill seriously fuckin kill you if you get off topic again
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[HBox]

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[EliSnow]

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[ToiletCrusher]

you are gettin off topic from the actor presidents bit

Son of a bitch.

How was your recent round of golf?

[HBox]

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Is this on topic? Because it's a real President, but not really.

[Snoogans]

Son of a bitch.

How was your recent round of golf?

dont fuck with me, son
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[ToiletCrusher]

How's your back?

[Snoogans]

Fo Shizzle, and all by Bibble
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[Misteriosa]

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get off my plane!

[Snoogans]

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[mikeyboy]

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[Snoogans]

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[TheMojoPin]

I would pick Millard Fillmore before I pick LBJ...LBJ is the absolute last name on my list. Even after Carter.

I'd be curious to see your reasoning as to why he'd be dead last. The only other president to pull of such important, sweeping and lasting domestic reform was FDR. I really can't see how even the most partisan of evaluators would place LBJ at the bottom, or even near the bottom, of a list of best to worst presidents. Yeah, Vietnam is a HUGE mark against him (and why I wouldn't put him up on the mountain), but that's ultimately a problem that is laid across four presidents.

My pick...Woodrow Wilson.

He was an impressive politician, but a horrible human being. Did he really do anything in office so above and beyond the call of duty that outweighs him being arguably the most actively sexist and racist president we've ever had? The man willfully and explicitly segregated the federal government and military less than a hundred years ago.

[Snoogans]

I'd be curious to see your reasoning as to why he'd be dead last. The only other president to pull of such important, sweeping and lasting domestic reform was FDR. I really can't see how even the most partisan of evaluators would place LBJ at the bottom, or even near the bottom, of a list of best to worst presidents. Yeah, Vietnam is a HUGE mark against him (and why I wouldn't put him up on the mountain), but that's ultimately a problem that is laid across four presidents.



He was an impressive politician, but a horrible human being. Did he really do anything in office so above and beyond the call of duty that outweighs him being arguably the most actively sexist and racist president we've ever had? The man willfully and explicitly segregated the federal government and military less than a hundred years ago.

i hate you

[hammersavage]

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[EliSnow]

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[TheMojoPin]

I don't think we have honestly had 1 president since who could compare with those four, most of them just try to keep the ball rollin'.

Why does Teddy deserve to be up there in the first place?

[Snoogans]

I thought I told ya that we won't stop, I thought I told ya that we won't stop
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[Snoogans]

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You mean I get to choose?

[Misteriosa]

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[TheMojoPin]

I thought I told ya that we won't stop, I thought I told ya that we won't stop
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His VP was MUCH more impressive.

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[Misteriosa]

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[PhishHead]

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[brettmojo]

Why does Teddy deserve to be up there in the first place?
I hear he had a big stick.

[Snoogans]

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA\


Movin to the country, bitch

[ToiletCrusher]

I've never had more love for Mojo than I do right now.

[Snoogans]

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He was president of something, anyway

[DiabloSammich]

Unless a president single handedly brings about world peace, cures cancer, and keeps the price of gas at a buck a gallon, he will never be considered to placed on a new Mt. Rushmore. Nowadays we have the unfortunate luxury of knowing every single move a president makes, and then end up overanalyzing every move that president makes. And even if a president's decision is unpopular with a small minority, that minority has unprecendented power to tear that person down.






Oh, and so Snoogans doesn't yell at me....






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[ToiletCrusher]

Unless a president single handedly brings about world peace, cures cancer, and keeps the price of gas at a buck a gallon, he will never be considered to placed on a new Mt. Rushmore. Nowadays we have the unfortunate luxury of knowing every single move a president makes, and then end up overanalyzing every move that president makes. And even if a president's decision is unpopular with a small minority, that minority has unprecendented power to tear that person down.






Oh, and so Snoogans doesn't yell at me....






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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

[DiabloSammich]

Go ahead, throw away your vote!!

[tanless1]

now, reagan wasnt bad; but no . no more monuments.
a couple years back, wasnt some city trying to rename davey crockett blvd - to some other more current icon ?
this trbld me. out w/ the old ,in w/the new philosophy. its not like there wasnt another street in that town they could rename that wasnt allready honoring a past hero. what was really sought was to forget. or to erease . do we really need a MLK st. dr. blvd. in every city ? granted , he is important, but more important than the forefathers ?
if i see a mountain carving to honor gore clinton obama i think ill vomit.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

Dewey's shocking upset over Truman secured his spot on Mt Rushmore.

[tileslinger]

Why does Teddy deserve to be up there in the first place?

I always kind of wondered this myself (T.R. was cool but come on) so I looked it up according to
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2040/why-is-teddy-roosevelt-commemorated-on-mt-rushmore
The sculptor in charge of creating Mt. Rushmore John Gutzon Borglum activly campained for T.R. And T.R. was a patron of his. The more things change the more they stay the same.

[MagillaGorillaz]

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[tileslinger]

I think they should erase Teddy Roosevelt's face an turn it into FDR. He got us out of the Great Depression, Beat the Germans and Japan in the War and got the bomb before anyone else. Sure he didn't do it all himself but he hung in there and lead us until the end. His social programs are accepted as normal now.

There should be a minimum of 50 years before you make this determination to see how your policy's actually effect the country. Life was great for me while Bill Clinton was in office and I agreed with most of his policy's. Some day my kid or grand kids will be able to really make a determination if he should be carved into stone.

[MHasegawa]

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He's Canadian, that disqualifies him.

[TheMojoPin]

I always kind of wondered this myself (T.R. was cool but come on) so I looked it up according to
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2040/why-is-teddy-roosevelt-commemorated-on-mt-rushmore
The sculptor in charge of creating Mt. Rushmore John Gutzon Borglum activly campained for T.R. And T.R. was a patron of his. The more things change the more they stay the same.

Oh yeah, I knew that to begin with. I had just noticed a few people talking like everyone up there is a no-doubter to be up there and I was curious to see why any of those people thought Teddy was such a no-brainer.

[Snoogans]

it was fun while it lasted

[IamFogHat]

As shit as LBJ was, historically he will be remembered for Civil Rights, so I painfully think he deserves it. Until those documents proved he killed Kennedy of course.

[TheMojoPin]

As shit as LBJ was, historically he will be remembered for Civil Rights, so I painfully think he deserves it. Until those documents proved he killed Kennedy of course.

How was LBJ "shit" besides escalating the ongoing US policy towards Vietnam?

[SinA]

he's not president yet, but it's in his destiny

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[Hottub]

How was LBJ "shit" besides escalating the ongoing US policy towards Vietnam?

He threw us head-first into an "action" that nobody was prepared for or supported.
He was a stubborn, crochety old drunk with the civility of a Neanderthal.
He made his decisions thinking everyone was behind him, yet they laughed at his every move.


Wait. are we talking about Johnson or Gvac?


Carry on.

[Kevin]

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[Snoogans]

nice

[TheMojoPin]

He threw us head-first into an "action" that nobody was prepared for or supported.
He was a stubborn, crochety old drunk with the civility of a Neanderthal.
He made his decisions thinking everyone was behind him, yet they laughed at his every move.


Wait. are we talking about Johnson or Gvac?


Carry on.

I'll assume that was just an attempt at a crappy Gvac joke and not an actual representation of your historical knowledge.

[A.J.]

For nuking Moscow.

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[A.J.]

He threw us head-first into an "action" that nobody was prepared for or supported.
He was a stubborn, crochety old drunk with the civility of a Neanderthal.
He made his decisions thinking everyone was behind him, yet they laughed at his every move.


Wait. are we talking about Johnson or Gvac?


Carry on.

Actually, I thought you were talking about Dubya.

No more Presidents from Texas please.

[Snoogans]

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PLISKIN!

[RapistWit]

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[fezfez]

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He's not just the President...

[lleeder]

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[A.J.]

FDR. And if Obama ends being at least an average President you'd have to put him up there for being the first black President.

This was our first black President.

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[aceofspades7]

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He's not just the President...

HAHAHA - awesome!:clap:

[TheMojoPin]

You won't just like the way you vote...

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