Sarah Palin to resign as Governor of Alaska

[HBox]

It's a big banner on MSNBC.com right now with no story yet. I'll post one when I find it.

[Snoogans]

It's a big banner on MSNBC.com right now with no story yet. I'll post one when I find it.

maybe she was bangin hookers like spitzer

[Foster]

a friend of mine just went to Alaska on Thursday,

I hope there aren't any riots

[HBox]

Here's a tiny story on MSNBC.com. Not much there and no one else is reporting this yet. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31726640/ns/politics-more_politics/)

[PerryWinkle]

a friend of mine just went to Alaska on Thursday,

I hope there aren't any riots

why would you go to alaska in july, its so cold and all that snow has to really suck

[underdog]

The only thing I find anywhere else is that she won't run for her 2nd term.

[KnoxHarrington]

What I'm seeing about this says that she's not actually resigning, she's just not going to run for another term as Alaska's governor.

Seeing the Republican party splinter itself into two groups, one that wants her to be nominated, and the other that would like to not suffer the worst assbeating in Electoral College history, is going to be sooooo fun.

[Foster]

why would you go to alaska in july, its so cold and all that snow has to really suck

I think you have your seasons mixed up

[TooLowBrow]

why would you go to alaska in july,

i dont know, alaska!


:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[HBox]

It's on CNN now so it looks true. (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/)

I cannot wait to see why.

[KnoxHarrington]

It's on CNN now so it looks true. (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/)

I cannot wait to see why.

Yeah, I have a feeling something is about to hit the fan. I know she wants to run for President, but why would you resign?

[The Jays]

Wow, resigning at the end of the month.

Just wow.

[silks]

Trying to upstage MJ

[The Jays]

It's gotta be something.

I personally don't think she should step down... she got voted by the people into office. Unless she's been boning dudes in Argentina, or stealing money from Alaska, she should serve the people of Alaska.

[nate1000]

Yeah, I have a feeling something is about to hit the fan. I know she wants to run for President, but why would you resign?

Playboy?

[~Katja~]

hehe
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/sarah-palin-resigns-as-al_b_225515.html

[Fallon]

Maybe her modeling career has taken off?

http://i41.tinypic.com/rtou8k.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/29yglle.jpg

[epo]

"Met her goals?" ... Jesus can people in my business be disingenuous.

This chick will have a house in Iowa in 3 months. I pray she gets the nomination in 2012, because as a democratic political hack...I like winning.

[Dudeman]

I haven't figured out the connection but i think it has ssomething to do with this.
http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/fp_3162999_letterman_protest_nyc_061609.jpg

[Fallon]

Maybe Arod really knocked her daughter up.

[A.J.]

Did she mention "God told me to"?

[~Katja~]

she is too short, and with her age spots she can't even be a hand model anymore either...

Maybe her modeling career has taken off?

http://i41.tinypic.com/rtou8k.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/29yglle.jpg

[NickyL0885]

hehe
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/sarah-palin-resigns-as-al_b_225515.html

This part was interesting:

"Rumors of an "iceberg scandal" have been circulating."

[underdog]

Maybe her modeling career has taken off?

http://i41.tinypic.com/rtou8k.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/29yglle.jpg

She has an enormous head.

[HBox]

This part was interesting:

"Rumors of an "iceberg scandal" have been circulating."

She sunk the Titanic!

[NickyL0885]

She has an enormous head.

Id still bang her.

[nate1000]

You betcha

[NickyL0885]

Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC says Palin told her supporters that she is done with national politics. One can only hope...

[KnoxHarrington]

My prediction: "The Sarah Palin Show", Fox News, 7PM Weeknights.

[HBox]

Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC says Palin told her supporters that she is done with national politics. One can only hope...

"The liberal media unfairly savaged me!" excuses are sure to follow. Tell that to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Palin is quitting because she is an unqualified amateur with no interest in learning enough to be a realistic national candidate and has no political talent other than masterfully manipulating a shrinking extremist Christian base. As entertaining as it would be to have her around I'm more gratified that, if this is true, she will have no power over anyone's life after July 25th. Good riddance.

[ChrisTheCop]

So..so far, non story?

Just an excuse to bash her some more...okee doke.

[Heather 8]

Stepping down before a term is over is hardly a "non-story."

But please continue taking it personally.

[HBox]

So..so far, non story?

Just an excuse to bash her some more...okee doke.

A cop was tased at the press conference so no one cares.

[ChrisTheCop]

uhh...personally? My name's not Palin...or Sarah. How can it be personal?

Just sayin people leave their jobs early all the time.
She's apparently decided not to run for a 2nd term,
and has decided to leave her post early.

We all love a scandal, but so far...nuttin.

[ChrisTheCop]

A cop was tased at the press conference so no one cares.

now who's goin personal. Going back to that shit is always proof that you have nothing.

[TheMojoPin]

Just sayin people leave their jobs early all the time.

Yeah, that's the same as being someone who just ran as one of the most divisve VP candidates in our nation's history.

[The Jays]

uhh...personally? My name's not Palin...or Sarah. How can it be personal?

Just sayin people leave their jobs early all the time.
She's apparently decided not to run for a 2nd term,
and has decided to leave her post early.

We all love a scandal, but so far...nuttin.

If a person is elected by the people, they are supposed to finish their terms, unless something prevents them from serving the state. You can't quit being governor because you don't like being governor anymore, that is an insult to the people who elect you.

[HBox]

now who's goin personal. Going back to that shit is always proof that you have nothing.

Just pointing out your previous self-delusion that is currently on display. People don't stop being Governors on a whim. That you compare being a Governor to any other job is laughable. A person doesn't go through all the work to become a Governor, then run to be Vice President with hopes to someday become President, then start laying the groundwork to run for President, and finally quit politics out of nowhere. I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone could actually buy that. And yes, it's national news when a Governor resigns, more so when the Governor is a well-known national figure. This should all be self-evident but apparently not.

And just an excuse to bash her? She resigned. Nobody made her. Not even the evil liberal media.

[A.J.]

Maybe she just wants to "spend more time with the family": like our great athletes always say!

[The Jays]

Mary Matlin is currently spinning this as being an awesome political decision, because now she's free to raise awareness for issues like Mitt Romney. I guess elected officials are not good at doing that.

[TheMojoPin]

Maybe she just wants to "spend more time with the family": like our great athletes always say!

Maybe it's a secret suspension for gambling or steroids!

[ChrisTheCop]

Yeah, that's the same as being someone who just ran as one of the most divisve VP candidates in our nation's history.

I'm not saying cnn shouldnt report it, just not sure why we're all frothing at the mouths.

If a person is elected by the people, they are supposed to finish their terms, unless something prevents them from serving the state. You can't quit being governor because you don't like being governor anymore, that is an insult to the people who elect you.

There will still be a governor..just not her. But ok... If youre an Alaskan and you really wanted her to keep on keepin on, I guess youd have the right to be disappointed in her... but I'm not an Alaskan..so I dont take it too...personally.

[paulisded]

Maybe she just wants to "spend more time with the family": like our great athletes always say!

I hope she finds the real killer.

[The Jays]

Oh god, Matlin just finished talking... she must give awesome blowjobs or have a pussy tighter than a 2 year old, because I just can't see how Jame Carville can be married to such a moron.

[SatCam]

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2009-05-21-bristolpeople.jpg


I would quit too if my daughter was still whoring it up

[ChrisTheCop]

[color=navy][size=2]Just pointing out your previous self-delusion that is currently on display.



How does bringing up past threads about cops tasering people even remotely point out how wrong I am about this topic? It was a cheap shot meant to shut me up, which had nothing to do with the topic at hand, and failed miserably.

[HBox]

How does bringing up past threads about cops tasering people even remotely point out how wrong I am about this topic? It was a cheap shot meant to shut me up, which had nothing to do with the topic at hand, and failed miserably.

Your implication that no one cares about when cops are tased or worse is just as wrong as the implication that this doesn't matter or that we are all chomping at the mouth for any opportunity to bash Palin. She keeps on putting herself in the news. No one else. If she went back and was just working as Governor no one would care about her.

[epo]

I'm not saying cnn shouldnt report it, just not sure why we're all frothing at the mouths.


Personally, I'm not frothing at the mouth...I'm just really surprised, especially since she's really attempted to position herself as a viable option for the republican party in 2012. In context, the move doesn't make any sense.

Now in terms of interest....add to that background to her tactics/tone in the 2008 election and you can see why it would be a juicy story if this turns out to be a scandal.

[ChrisTheCop]

Personally, I'm not frothing at the mouth...I'm just really surprised, especially since she's really attempted to position herself as a viable option for the republican party in 2012. In context, the move doesn't make any sense.

Now in terms of interest....add to that background to her tactics/tone in the 2008 election and you can see why it would be a juicy story if this turns out to be a scandal.

You're making too much sense for this thread, sir.

[EliSnow]

Saying this is a non-story is ridiculous. People don't step down as governor all the time and when they do, it usually because they got a higher office or there was a spectacular fuck up.

[The Jays]

They try to spin it that, by resigning, she has the chance to work on her foreign affairs experience and issues that she can run on for the 2012 presidency. It's entirely retarded.

[TheMojoPin]

You're making too much sense for this thread, sir.

Who is "frothing at the mouth" here?

It's a big story and people are commenting, mostly humorously. If this "frothing at the mouth" then almost every thread here is rabid.

[The Jays]

Saying this is a non-story is ridiculous. People don't step down as governor all the time and when they do, it usually because they got a higher office or there was a spectacular fuck up.

Yeah, seriously. It's not like turning in your apron as a fry cook.

[STC-Dub]

Being Governor actually requires that she spends time in Alaska and out of the national press...

[ChrisTheCop]

Saying this is a non-story is ridiculous. People don't step down as governor all the time and when they do, it usually because they got a higher office or there was a spectacular fuck up.

I'll back track a little. I didnt mean that the resignation itself was a non-story.
Just that there has yet to be any scandalous reason for it.

Some people here seemed to imply that that would be the case,
but so far..THAT story hasnt panned out.

[ChrisTheCop]

Yeah, seriously. It's not like turning in your apron as a fry cook.

Although there were many people during the election who said being Governor of Alaska is no big deal... weird it suddenly is.

[paulisded]

Who is "frothing at the mouth" here?

It's a big story and people are commenting, mostly humorously. If this "frothing at the mouth" then almost every thread here is rabid.

It's because Palin's people have positioned her from the very beginning as being off-limits to humor or criticism. Any time anybody makes a comment about her (and I'm not just talking about Letterman), her supporters go nuts. So even though this seems to be a questionable move we're supposed to just smile and pat her on the back.

[HBox]

Although there were many people during the election who said being Governor of Alaska is no big deal... weird it suddenly is.

:wallbash:

[TheMojoPin]

Although there were many people during the election who said being Governor of Alaska is no big deal... weird it suddenly is.

RON PAUL DON'T COTTON TO NO DAME WHAT WEARS THE PANTS.

[ChrisTheCop]

:wallbash:

I feel your pain.

[EliSnow]

Although there were many people during the election who said being Governor of Alaska is no big deal... weird it suddenly is.

No one said it wasn't a big deal. The criticism was that it don't give her enough experience to be president.

[The Jays]

Although there were many people during the election who said being Governor of Alaska is no big deal... weird it suddenly is.

Compared to being the governor of New York or California, it is less of a big deal, but, she is the executive of a United States state, not to mention that she RAN AS A VICE PRESIDENT CANDIDATE, so, it is a big deal. I am not one of those people who said isn't wasn't a big deal, so do not lump me in with these "people" you speak of.

[cougarjake13]

just out of the blue like that huh ??

[KnoxHarrington]

just out of the blue like that huh ??

And this is after she's pretty much been acting like a Presidential candidate all along. Shit, I got the feeling from her rallies as McCain's running mate that she had decided to cut him loose and start her own Presidential campaign right then and there.

So, suddenly, she quits her job and apparently says she's quitting politics? How are we not supposed to think something very wrong is going on here?

[Gvac]

I hear she got knocked up by the hockey playing kid who knocked up her daughter.

[DarkHippie]

I think that there is a scandal brewing and she is trying to preempt it by blaming the media for forcing her to resign. by doing that, it will take some of the bite out of any scandal

[brettmojo]

My prediction: "The Sarah Palin Show", Fox News, 7PM Weeknights.
Log it.

I think there is something hanging over her, something she thinks will surface if not now eventually... I don't know, but there's no way she'd throw away her chance to run for president in 2012 if she had any other choice. The only other thing I could imagine is the Republican party got together and asked her to resign hoping in 4 years no one will remember her and she won't be this black stain on the party like she is now.

[The Jays]

I think this will only magnify the scandal. Everyone is going to see through this bullshit. We see through it already. I mean, seriously, she's quitting in order to better serve Alaska? That's like quitting your job as a waiter in the middle of a shift because you're going to be able to get people's food faster by not working.

[sink]

I think this will only magnify the scandal. Everyone is going to see through this bullshit. We see through it already. I mean, seriously, she's quitting in order to better serve Alaska? That's like quitting your job as a waiter in the middle of a shift because you're going to be able to get people's food faster by not working.

I agree, IF there is some scandal, this quiting job will by no means soften the impact.

Who knows, but I don't get the timing of it causing the entire thing to smell fishy.

[The Jays]

And her whole speech, about the start of Alaska, and Fourth of July, and energy independence and jobs, and oh yeah, since I'm not running for re-election, I'm resigning; none of this can be considered calculated political strategy.

[SatCam]

She's trying to outdo our founding fathers. Those fireworks tomorrow night? Theyre for Sarah.


We love you Sarah!

[epo]

I'm hearing *rumors* that there may be a criminal probe on her. That may explain things.

[Gvac]

Jesus told her to step down.

He's got more important things for her to do.

[sailor]

Did she mention "God told me to"?

Jesus told her to step down.

He's got more important things for her to do.

read the entire thread. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=68561)

[The Jays]

Oh sniz-zap!

Gvac, you should step down. You'll serve us better if you were not a member of the board.

[Gvac]

read the entire thread. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=68561)

Go fuck yourself.

[sailor]

Go fuck yourself.

pretty sure mojo beat you to that line as well.

[Gvac]

pretty sure mojo beat you to that line as well.

I can't wait until he bans you.

[epo]

Go fuck yourself.

AJ totally served you...

http://media.southparkstudios.com/media/images/805/805_image_06.jpg

You got F'ed in the A!

[foodcourtdruide]

While I like when republicans lose, Palin represented a fringe part of the party that would have never been able to grow into mainstream America. She's too divisive, too angry, wasn't willing to have an actual conversation. In the long run her disappearing is a good thing... For republicans.

[KnoxHarrington]

The thing is, if this were a movement to get ready for a Presidential run in 2012, I can't see why she'd resign. Hell, for that matter, I don't see why she wouldn't run for re-election even if she is running in 2012. It would look far better for her to still be Governor than to have stepped away.

I'm with Epo here: I think some real shit is about to hit the fan on the Troopergate stuff, perhaps, or something else.

[ChrisTheCop]

Yeah, seriously. It's not like turning in your apron as a fry cook.

That's like quitting your job as a waiter in the middle of a shift because you're going to be able to get people's food faster by not working.

Well, without the waiter in the way, the fry cook can get the food to the people directly,
which, after some practice, could be faster for the customers.

[paulisded]

If she really wants to run for President, wouldn't the smart move be to stay on as Governor and prove to the critics that she's a true "maverick" by improving the conditions of her state?

[Drunky McBetidont]

she wants to home school trig. that is gonna be a full time job, with the drool and all.


fuck her and her stupid family.

[The Jays]

She's the worst beauty contestant governor ever.

[spoon]

Just pointing out your previous self-delusion that is currently on display. People don't stop being Governors on a whim. That you compare being a Governor to any other job is laughable. A person doesn't go through all the work to become a Governor, then run to be Vice President with hopes to someday become President, then start laying the groundwork to run for President, and finally quit politics out of nowhere. I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone could actually buy that. And yes, it's national news when a Governor resigns, more so when the Governor is a well-known national figure. This should all be self-evident but apparently not.

And just an excuse to bash her? She resigned. Nobody made her. Not even the evil liberal media.

I fear this a calculated move to set up a run in 2012, using this as an attempt to keep the media at bay more, along with plenty of time to set the stage. I'm sure if it is, it'll be a laugher and we'll all enjoy the Tina Fey eps on SNL to come (the only reason to watch).

I found out about this listening to political right wing hack Mark Simone on WABC during my drive home from the Yankee game. He literally stated that she's such a clever, smart woman that we can rest easy knowing she's making a smart move to help lead the repubs to victory in 2012. While she may be hoping about this plan of action, calling her clever, let alone smart is fantastic! They took caller after caller who swear she's the savior and it's AWFUL how the media pushed her out. All the investigations are bs and she's the cleanest NON-POLITICS candidate we ever had. HA!!!! Get this cunt and her trampy daughters OUT of the news please. And which is it Palin, is the point guard watching the net, or the ball when they qb is switching to an audible to pass! Just shut up stupid.

[Sinestro]

Great! Now the Alaskan unemployment rate went up a percentage. Way to stick it to Obama.

[spoon]

I'll back track a little. I didnt mean that the resignation itself was a non-story.
Just that there has yet to be any scandalous reason for it.

Some people here seemed to imply that that would be the case,
but so far..THAT story hasnt panned out.

Yet she's under MULTIPLE investigations Chris. Palin herself eluded to them as part of the reason she's leaving in order to relieve some of the strain they have put on her administration to get things done and other effects.

[spoon]

Log it.

I think there is something hanging over her, something she thinks will surface if not now eventually... I don't know, but there's no way she'd throw away her chance to run for president in 2012 if she had any other choice. The only other thing I could imagine is the Republican party got together and asked her to resign hoping in 4 years no one will remember her and she won't be this black stain on the party like she is now.

This could very well be the answer. And let's all remember Oliver North and Mark Fhurman work for Fox News, so even if convicted she'll probably get a show regardless.

[spoon]

I agree, IF there is some scandal, this quiting job will by no means soften the impact.

Who knows, but I don't get the timing of it causing the entire thing to smell fishy.

It's the Palins, why think at all!?

[ChrisTheCop]

Yet she's under MULTIPLE investigations Chris. Palin herself eluded to them as part of the reason she's leaving in order to relieve some of the strain they have put on her administration to get things done and other effects.

So the big scandal will be something we already know?

BO-ring.

I want it to be something new like she accidentally aborted an entire litter of gerbils by playing heavy metal music backwards in the nude while in church.

[Drunky McBetidont]

maybe she has asshole cancer? god rest her soul.

[spoon]

She's got the big C tony?!

[brettmojo]

maybe she has asshole cancer? god rest her soul.
What an attention seeking copy cat she'd be.

She probably just got herself prescribed some demerol too.

[epo]

If she really wants to run for President, wouldn't the smart move be to stay on as Governor and prove to the critics that she's a true "maverick" by improving the conditions of her state?

Yes it would be. It would also be smart to get out of office before the shitstorm hits.

[spoon]

Yes it would be. It would also be smart to get out of office before the shitstorm hits.

Do you dip your fucksticks in tartar sauce epo?!

[epo]

Do you dip your fucksticks in tartar sauce epo?!

Wouldn't you like to know....sweetcheeks?

[spoon]

Wouldn't you like to know....sweetcheeks?

Epo, I live near civilization out here and it's hot (finally).... sweatcheeks is more appropriate.

[epo]

Epo, I live near civilization out here and it's hot (finally).... sweatcheeks is more appropriate.

You got it, Puddinhead!

[spoon]

You got it, Puddinhead!

Nice, you better be making some for me!

[ChrisTheCop]

You two get a room.
This thread is for Palin bashing* only.
No sexy talk.



*oops, I mean the discussion of the palin resignation, POSSIBLE subsequent scandal reports, and its effect on the 2012 presidential race and the world at large.

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah, because people were claiming this is only some kind of serious political analysis.

[ChrisTheCop]

Yeah, because people were claiming this is only some kind of serious political analysis.

Forgive me for trying to stop the hot man on man action.

[foodcourtdruide]

We just think there's a scandle because it makes no sense if there isn't. If Obama just quit tomorrow wouldn't everyone be like, "um wtf?"?

[EliSnow]

We just think there's a scandle because it makes no sense if there isn't. If Obama just quit tomorrow wouldn't everyone be like, "um wtf?"?

Jezo would say he did it to become President of the world.

[NewYorkDragons80]

What I'm seeing about this says that she's not actually resigning, she's just not going to run for another term as Alaska's governor.

I wonder if she thought that was the same thing?

[NewYorkDragons80]

While I like when republicans lose, Palin represented a fringe part of the party that would have never been able to grow into mainstream America. She's too divisive, too angry, wasn't willing to have an actual conversation. In the long run her disappearing is a good thing... For republicans.

Does that mean it's bad for you?

[foodcourtdruide]

Jezo would say he did it to become President of the world.

Haha! I hadn't taken into account the jezo factor.
He'd say this was the beginning of a nationwide aggressive plot to overthroe the American Government by Muslims... His next post would be in the Wii forum about Mario Kart.

[foodcourtdruide]

Does that mean it's bad for you?

I think its a good thing for me. she is an absolutely terrible person to represent this country. Her being out of power makes this a better place.

[epo]

Haha! I hadn't taken into account the jezo factor.
He'd say this was the beginning of a nationwide aggressive plot to overthroe the American Government by Muslims... His next post would be in the Wii forum about Mario Kart.

He heard that at the gym.

[NewYorkDragons80]

She sunk the Titanic!

The truth behind the Titanic's sinking is *far* more nefarious (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI)

[paulisded]

You two get a room.
This thread is for Palin bashing* only.
No sexy talk.



*oops, I mean the discussion of the palin resignation, POSSIBLE subsequent scandal reports, and its effect on the 2012 presidential race and the world at large.

Really, it's been nothing but bashing?

It's a situation that raises many questions, and we've been discussing it. Yes, some people have made some jokes, but I don't get how she is the one politician who is hands-off.

[spoon]

Haha! I hadn't taken into account the jezo factor.
He'd say this was the beginning of a nationwide aggressive plot to overthroe the American Government by Muslims... His next post would be in the Wii forum about Mario Kart.

HEY! You watch it with the Mario Kart rips! :nono:

[Gvac]

HEY! You watch it with the Mario Kart rips! :nono:

You're right.

My 8 year old nephew loves it. :wacko:

[spoon]

You're right.

My 8 year old nephew loves it. :wacko:

As he should. Now someone should help grandpa gvac understand how the magic stick controls the cartoons on the lookie box.

[ChrisTheCop]

Really, it's been nothing but bashing?

It's a situation that raises many questions, and we've been discussing it. Yes, some people have made some jokes, but I don't get how she is the one politician who is hands-off.

I never said she was hands off.
I'm just pointing out that people like bashing Palin.
We can also make fun of her kids...we just cant take pics of Obama's...sigh.

[foodcourtdruide]

You're right.

My 8 year old nephew loves it. :wacko:

This reminds me of the people that keep telling me Up is a great movie. I sat through WallE, which was cute but very boring. I am officially going to stop attempting to enjoy things meant for children.

For now on I'm only going to drink, smoke and vote.

[foodcourtdruide]

I never said she was hands off.
I'm just pointing out that people like bashing Palin.
We can also make fun of her kids...we just cant take pics of Obama's...sigh.

The only one people are "allowed" to make fun of is the one with a kid, who has made herself a public figure.

[ChrisTheCop]

The only one people are "allowed" to make fun of is the one with a kid, who has made herself a public figure.

So we're calling HER the retard?

[NewYorkDragons80]

I think its a good thing for me. she is an absolutely terrible person to represent this country. Her being out of power makes this a better place.

It seemed like you were saying that a Republican shift to the middle is good for them, but bad for you. Thank you for clarifying that the further alienation of the far right is a good thing.

[NewYorkDragons80]

You're right.

My 8 year old nephew loves it. :wacko:

Don't you mean great nephew? Unless you're the oldest of 12...

[foodcourtdruide]

So we're calling HER the retard?

I'm sorry, I'm not calling anyone a retard. I don't know what you mean by "we". I meant media figures like John Stewart,etc. are only really allowed to get laughs out of the 18 year old.

[ChrisTheCop]

I'm sorry, I'm not calling anyone a retard. I don't know what you mean by "we". I meant media figures like John Stewart,etc. are only really allowed to get laughs out of the 18 year old.

Oh. I thought WE were following the thread.

[TheMojoPin]

The truth behind the Titanic's sinking is *far* more nefarious (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI)

That's always cracked me up. Kicks the shit out of Loose Change and its ilk.

"The metal has barely melted!"

[foodcourtdruide]

It seemed like you were saying that a Republican shift to the middle is good for them, but bad for you. Thank you for clarifying that the further alienation of the far right is a good thing.

No, I don't think more center-leaning republicans is a bad thing. I don't like extremists on either side. Palin showed enough signs of being more fringe than middle of the road, so I say good riddance.

[foodcourtdruide]

Oh. I thought WE were following the thread.

I'm confused. Are you talking about the thread or the media? When you made reference to not being allowed to take pictures of the kids I thought you were talking about things on a larger scale than this thread.

[NewYorkDragons80]

No, I don't think more center-leaning republicans is a bad thing. I don't like extremists on either side. Palin showed enough signs of being more fringe than middle of the road, so I say good riddance.

And I agree. The more ostracized the Palins of the world are, the better off every American is.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm confused. Are you talking about the thread or the media? When you made reference to not being allowed to take pictures of the kids I thought you were talking about things on a larger scale than this thread.

I'm assuming he thinks Palin and her family take an unfair amount amount of scorn, criticism and mocking as opposed to, say, the Obamas.

[NewYorkDragons80]

That's always cracked me up. Kicks the shit out of Loose Change and its ilk.

"The metal has barely melted!"

Sadly, as I searched for it, I found there were 100% serious videos that claimed the Jesuits sunk the Titanic to kill those opposed to the Federal Reserve

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm assuming he thinks Palin and her family take an unfair amount amount of scorn, criticism and mocking as opposed to, say, the Obamas.

I honestly can't think of one instance where any of the kids, other than the one with a baby, got any shit.

[TooLowBrow]

I honestly can't think of one instance where any of the kids, other than the one with a baby, got any shit.

the little one tried to fuck a-rod

[TheMojoPin]

Sadly, as I searched for it, I found there were 100% serious videos that claimed the Jesuits sunk the Titanic to kill those opposed to the Federal Reserve

Wow, there are actual Titanic conspiracy theories?

Wacky.

[ChrisTheCop]

I honestly can't think of one instance where any of the kids, other than the one with a baby, got any shit.

I was indeed talking about both,
but you can definitely find it in this thread.

[sr71blackbird]

I find her to be very attractive. Honestly, she is hot.

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/ww/news/2009/07/03/resign.jpg

[foodcourtdruide]

the little one tried to fuck a-rod

That was an instance where it MAY have been about one of them, and Letterman had to apologize!

[ChrisTheCop]

Wow, there are actual Titanic conspiracy theories?

Wacky.

I heard Jack sabotaged the ship so that it would hit the iceberg, sink, and then he wouldnt have to marry Rose, whom he believed to be pregnant. Thats the real reason the cop put him in cuffs. Think about it, maaaan.

[foodcourtdruide]

I was indeed talking about both,
but you can definitely find it in this thread.

it just kinda makes me sad. That kid has nothing to do with any of this.

[silks]

Has she made any trips to Argentina lately?

[sailor]

I'm assuming he thinks Palin and her family take an unfair amount amount of scorn, criticism and mocking as opposed to, say, the Obamas.

without a doubt.

[Ogre]

And I agree. The more ostracized the Palins of the world are, the better off every American is.

First thing I think Sarah Palin was a poor choice for the Republican VP slot. I hope she does not run in 2012.

That said. Why should any American citizen be "ostracized" sequestered, excluded from the public forum of the democratic process for thier beliefs? Why are they not entitled to their opinions? Why would America be better off if one more opposing view is silenced?

[foodcourtdruide]

without a doubt.

Actually, there is a lot of room to doubt that statement. Who has been more criticized? Michelle Obama or the first dude? Other than Bristol, who has put herself into public light, which of her kids have been criticized?

[sailor]

Actually, there is a lot of room to doubt that statement. Who has been more criticized? Michelle Obama or the first dude? Other than Bristol, who has put herself into public light, which of her kids have been criticized?

i wouldn't say bristol put herself out there, she's just a dumb kid that got knocked up. and i don't even know the names of any of the obama kids. never even heard them.

[NewYorkDragons80]

That said. Why should any American citizen be "ostracized" sequestered, excluded from the public forum of the democratic process for thier beliefs? Why are they not entitled to their opinions? Why would America be better off if one more opposing view is silenced?

The democratic process is precisely what is ostracizing her. The view isn't silenced, but correctly marginalized

[mikeyboy]

i wouldn't say bristol put herself out there, she's just a dumb kid that got knocked up. and i don't even know the names of any of the obama kids. never even heard them.

Brazilian Julie and Pixie. I thought we covered this.

[foodcourtdruide]

i wouldn't say bristol put herself out there, she's just a dumb kid that got knocked up. and i don't even know the names of any of the obama kids. never even heard them.

Bristol willfully became the voice of abstinence.I only remember Palins other kids names because they are so odd.



Edit: sorry, I should clarify. THE NAMES are odd, to me at least. Maybe my name would be odd to them. I don't know, I've never been to Alaska :)

[sailor]

Bristol willfully became the voice of abstinence.I only remember Palins other kids names because they are so odd.

she did that all long after her pregnancy became headline news.

[SonOfSmeagol]

Maybe she’ll start a Fox News prime time show now. Then, every evening, I can lock the door, turn down the lights, lay out a beach towel, and …and …and …aaahhh… I gotta go.

[foodcourtdruide]

she did that all long after her pregnancy became headline news.

Her pregnancy was NEWS, but not criticized.

[spoon]

i wouldn't say bristol put herself out there, she's just a dumb kid that got knocked up. and i don't even know the names of any of the obama kids. never even heard them.

You're kidding right?! Not only was she used as a pawn in the election and paraded on stage often with kid and "future husband" by her side, she's also been all over the talk show circuit and the feature of multiple magazine around her pregnancy. Sorry, not only did her mother, family and the republican party put it out there, she did as well.

[ChrisTheCop]

Her pregnancy was NEWS, but not criticized.

snide comments about family values etc are criticism, I'd say.

[foodcourtdruide]

You're kidding right?! Not only was she used as a pawn in the election and paraded on stage often with kid and "future husband" by her side, she's also been all over the talk show circuit and the feature of multiple magazine around her pregnancy. Sorry, not only did her mother, family and the republican party put it out there, she did as well.

Right, and besides, if there was any critism it was positive. I think the media initially cast the teenage pregnancy thing in a positive light.

[Ritalin]

You're kidding right?! Not only was she used as a pawn in the election and paraded on stage often with kid and "future husband" by her side, she's also been all over the talk show circuit and the feature of multiple magazine around her pregnancy. Sorry, not only did her mother, family and the republican party put it out there, she did as well.

And the sheer audacity of parading the knocked up teen around while preaching the Jesus talk - abstinence and all - makes that whole family a joke, the reverse Kennedys.

[spoon]

And the sheer audacity of parading the knocked up teen around while preaching the Jesus talk - abstinence and all - makes that whole family a joke, the reverse Kennedys.

She's a saint bc she didn't abort that soul, just like mom with her trig homework....baby.

[foodcourtdruide]

snide comments about family values etc are criticism, I'd say.

the MSM made these comments?

[ChrisTheCop]

the MSM made these comments?

I dont recall. But it was a huge issue, brought to us by the media.

[epo]

snide comments about family values etc are criticism, I'd say.

They would be unjustified criticisms if the family didn't play the typical right-wing christian card, which tells us that kids who fuck are sinners. In fact, now Bristol is trying to become such a spokesperson despite her obviously not prescribing to the principle.

[foodcourtdruide]

I dont recall. But it was a huge issue, brought to us by the media.

I don't recall so much either. However, it was my impression that Bristol being pregnant was overall a plus for Palin in the media.

[KnoxHarrington]

Some rumblings of what is really going on here starting.

This is very early, of course, and I can't say I fully trust these sources 100%, but there are some reports that Palin could be facing federal indictments on embezzlement charges. The irony is that the charges date back from her time as mayor of Wasilia. These charges have kind of been an open secret in Alaska, with a little play during the election, but they might be about to blow up. Basically, it appears that when the Wasilia Sports Complex, which Palin and her supporters used as her Big Achievement as mayor of Wasilia, she helped herself to some of the construction material for her own house.

Okay, I've now been able to get independent information from multiple sources that all of this precedes what are said to be possible federal indictments against Palin, concerning an embezzlement scandal related to the building of Palin's house and the Wasilla Sports Complex built during her tenure as Mayor. Both structures, it is said, feature the "same windows, same wood, same products." Federal investigators have been looking into this for some time, and indictments could be imminent, according to the Alaska sources.

The BRAD BLOG has not been able to receive confirm from any federal sources on this. Our information comes from local Alaskans who follow Palin, and who have been keeping an eye on this for some time, while keeping it quiet at the request of federal investigators.

Take this as you will, but this resignation is so sudden and so out of the blue that it's hard for me to believe that something isn't behind it.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280

It appears this thread has been sidetracked into discussion of her kids, but we need to keep this in mind about Palin: she is a scumbag politician who has a long history of abusing her power in various ways. And she does this whole "little ol' Sarah from Wasilia" routine, but if she didn't, you'd think of her the same way you think of other scumbags like Rod Blagojevich and William Jefferson.

I don't give a fuck if one of her kids is a cute lil waterhead. She's a sleazeball, and the fact that someone out there seriously thinks she is worth serious consideration to be President, or Vice-President, or a Governor, or even a Mayor, is fucking sad.

[spoon]

Some rumblings of what is really going on here starting.

This is very early, of course, and I can't say I fully trust these sources 100%, but there are some reports that Palin could be facing federal indictments on embezzlement charges. The irony is that the charges date back from her time as mayor of Wasilia. These charges have kind of been an open secret in Alaska, with a little play during the election, but they might be about to blow up. Basically, it appears that when the Wasilia Sports Complex, which Palin and her supporters used as her Big Achievement as mayor of Wasilia, she helped herself to some of the construction material for her own house.



Take this as you will, but this resignation is so sudden and so out of the blue that it's hard for me to believe that something isn't behind it.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280

It appears this thread has been sidetracked into discussion of her kids, but we need to keep this in mind about Palin: she is a scumbag politician who has a long history of abusing her power in various ways. And she does this whole "little ol' Sarah from Wasilia" routine, but if she didn't, you'd think of her the same way you think of other scumbags like Rod Blagojevich and William Jefferson.

I don't give a fuck if one of her kids is a cute lil waterhead. She's a sleazeball, and the fact that someone out there seriously thinks she is worth serious consideration to be President, or Vice-President, or a Governor, or even a Mayor, is fucking sad.

I've heard this among other investigations into her dealings with oil and more.

[foodcourtdruide]

Some rumblings of what is really going on here starting.

This is very early, of course, and I can't say I fully trust these sources 100%, but there are some reports that Palin could be facing federal indictments on embezzlement charges. The irony is that the charges date back from her time as mayor of Wasilia. These charges have kind of been an open secret in Alaska, with a little play during the election, but they might be about to blow up. Basically, it appears that when the Wasilia Sports Complex, which Palin and her supporters used as her Big Achievement as mayor of Wasilia, she helped herself to some of the construction material for her own house.



Take this as you will, but this resignation is so sudden and so out of the blue that it's hard for me to believe that something isn't behind it.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280

It appears this thread has been sidetracked into discussion of her kids, but we need to keep this in mind about Palin: she is a scumbag politician who has a long history of abusing her power in various ways. And she does this whole "little ol' Sarah from Wasilia" routine, but if she didn't, you'd think of her the same way you think of other scumbags like Rod Blagojevich and William Jefferson.

I don't give a fuck if one of her kids is a cute lil waterhead. She's a sleazeball, and the fact that someone out there seriously thinks she is worth serious consideration to be President, or Vice-President, or a Governor, or even a Mayor, is fucking sad.

Can we not attack the kid like that? The rest of your post is really interesting though.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Basically, it appears that when the Wasilia Sports Complex, which Palin and her supporters used as her Big Achievement as mayor of Wasilia, she helped herself to some of the construction material for her own house.

I'm hesitant to believe it. Only because it's so obvious. It just reeks of faked pregnancy.

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm hesitant to believe it. Only because it's so obvious. It just reeks of faked pregnancy.

But the faked pregnancy stories appeared out of a vacuum.

[NewYorkDragons80]

But the faked pregnancy stories appeared out of a vacuum.

Mojo, your rebuttal?

[Serpico1103]

I just can't believe the Republican party would pick her as VP. A mother of five young children; one pregnant and underage, one special needs baby.

I almost feel bad for her, because she probably believed the Party knew what they were doing. Unfortunately, now she is taking all the heat for the Party's bad decision.

More evidence that running for president is insane. Should have kept her good gig as Alaskan gov., under the radar.

Oh well, this should be fun. Takes some heat off the SC governor.

[foodcourtdruide]

Mojo, your rebuttal?

Lol sorry, I think I got confused. By "faked pregnancy" I thought you meant the stupid stories that trig was really bristols baby. And I thought you meant these accusations sounded like bs, like those. My point was those came from no where. These have some origin.

[HBox]

I just can't believe that John McCain would pick her as VP. A mother of five young children; one pregnant and underage, one special needs baby.

I almost feel bad for her, because she probably believed the Party knew what they were doing. Unfortunately, now she is taking all the heat for the Party's bad decision.

More evidence that running for president is insane. Should have kept her good gig as Alaskan gov., under the radar.

Oh well, this should be fun. Takes some heat off the SC governor.

I can see the Republican Party picking her. But if you told me a year ago that John McCain would pick someone like her to be VP and I wouldn't believe it.

[KnoxHarrington]

Time has a pretty good analysis of the questions this raises, including this very interesting point:

If her goal is to position herself for higher office, the stagecraft and timing of her announcement left Republicans scratching their heads. The Friday before Independence Day, when media attention is at its lowest, would be a more appropriate moment for a scandal-plagued politician to slink from the national stage. Palin made the announcement with no fanfare, no teleprompters, no prepared remarks. Waterfowl in the background at times challenged her for the microphone. "To step down on a Friday before a three-day holiday, people are going to scrutinize it: why is she doing it, question her judgment," said Ed Rollins, who ran former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee's presidential campaign last year. "It leaves her with less than three years as governor on her resume — not a very strong argument to run for president. The way she did it — the fact she did it — damages her, damages her immensely. People aren't happy about a governor quitting, unless you're Governor [Mark] Sanford [currently under fire for his extramarital affair in Argentina]. Her doing this adds to the Sarah Palin mystique, but not in a good way."

If you haven't seen the video of the resignation announcement, by the way, it's a treat.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1908669,00.html

[TheMojoPin]

Lol sorry, I think I got confused. By "faked pregnancy" I thought you meant the stupid stories that trig was really bristols baby. And I thought you meant these accusations sounded like bs, like those. My point was those came from no where. These have some origin.

I think he mentioned me because back when her first name showed up as a VP possibility I was talking to a friend of mine who had worked for a couple years in the Alaskan state government and had resigned and moved away only a few months before Palin got caught up in the election brouhaha. He told me the running gossip/joke/whatever in the offices up there was precisely that Trig was actually Bristol's kid and that Palin took the bullet, as it were. He never really believed it but he worked with some people who thought it could be true. He also was stunned she was picked as the VP just due to the massive corruption he encountered up there (in Alaskan state politics in general, not just specific to Palin), which was the reason he ultimately quit and sought employment elsewhere. He figured it was impossible for her to be clean amidst all of that.

[MacVittie]

I think she would do well with a talk show or something. She could be the new Dr. Laura.

[KnoxHarrington]

I think she would do well with a talk show or something. She could be the new Dr. Laura.

Yeah, but listen to today's announcement, which was, apparently, not prepared in advance. She can barely string together a sentence.

[The Jays]

In terms on her son being Bristol's, I think it's Sarah's... she's over 40 and had a child that had down's, that's more likely to happen to a woman over 40 than a teenager with riper eggs.

In terms of the unconfirmed charges, well, it's certainly the type of executive experience the Republican party is looking for in a 2012 candidate... have the government fund a project and then steal the building materials from it to build your own house! That's the American Dream right there, baby!

[The Jays]

Holy shit, I just re-listened to her resignation speech. According to her, it would be apathetic to just go with the flow and remain as governor, therefore, in order for her to lead, she wishes to quit.

[keithy_19]

Brazilian Julie and Pixie. I thought we covered this.

It's Simba and Nala.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I think he mentioned me because back when her first name showed up as a VP possibility I was talking to a friend of mine who had worked for a couple years in the Alaskan state government and had resigned and moved away only a few months before Palin got caught up in the election brouhaha. He told me the running gossip/joke/whatever in the offices up there was precisely that Trig was actually Bristol's kid and that Palin took the bullet, as it were. He never really believed it but he worked with some people who thought it could be true. He also was stunned she was picked as the VP just due to the massive corruption he encountered up there (in Alaskan state politics in general, not just specific to Palin), which was the reason he ultimately quit and sought employment elsewhere. He figured it was impossible for her to be clean amidst all of that.

Not to drag you into it, but the point I was making was that the pregnancy rumor was making the rounds months before she was on the ticket

[shittles]

Liberal media treatment of Palin and family has been criminal. Just because they were Christian and rural, they were never treated fairly.

[The Jays]

Give me a break about the "liberal media." The chick was retarded. She was an awful pick for vice president, this just proves it because she can't even finish a term of office. She most likely was involved in embezzlement when she was mayor, she doesn't turn over the state to her Lt. Governor while she's out campaigning, she preaches one thing while her family does another, and instead of running her state she's off on The Today Show complaining about Letterman. Who gives a shit if she's Christian and rural, what was more important was that she was inept and an attention whore.

[DJEvelEd]

Palin has some smart people around her. They knew she would not get re-elected so they pull her out safely and plan & poll for 2012. Had she LOST the governorship, her presidential run would be damaged. Savvy cunt. But can she out-cunt Hillary? Now THATS a cunt!

[instrument]

Yeah chris, your tone sounded like you took it personal chief, no one on earth looking at the situation rattionally would call a governor who was just the vp candidate resigning a non-story.

If she were vp would she still be stepping down?

Goodtimes.

[EliSnow]

Palin has some smart people around her.

She does? All I have seen her do is make mistakes that smart people would have advised her against.

And as for not being re-elected, that may be a good reason not to run for another term but that doesn't explain quitting in the middle of her current term.

[instrument]

might be a story (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/03/palin-hockey-arena-scandal/)

[Recyclerz]

I am hoping that there is a scandal wherein somebody is about to release a sex tape showing the soon to be ex-Governor getting tag-teamed by (select any two: Mark Sanford, Newt Gingrich, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Fez Whatley, Kim Jung Il, Bill Kristol or Bernie Madoff), if only to knock the post mortem coverage of Iron Mike Jackson out of the news.

It is certainly conceivable that the Palins may have gotten caught with their fingers in the public cookie jar up in grizzly country given the level of corruption that settled in up there when oil prices were high. (Although I shouldn't be throwing stones at the political culture of any other state given the shenanigans in Albany these days.) There may be a more benign explanantion though. I believe that Ms. Palin is shrewd (if not smart) and she may be judging that being a governor in a time of declining revenues doesn't improve one's popularity what with all the hard decisions and actual work & all, so now would be the time to cash in on her popularity with the yahoos: ie. get paid with a Fox show, a book deal & plenty of $75K speeches to the faithful. Her name would remain out there and if the economy hasn't improved by 2012 and if the adults in the Republican Party haven't reestablished control she could swoop in for a run at the big chair next time.

I guess now would be a good time to put the past behind us and reach out to the board member who not only brought Ms. Palin to our attention but I believe convinced John McCain to put her on the ticket. I don't want to mention names but I, for one, forgive you NYDrago_s. :wink:

[Serpico1103]

Liberal media treatment of Palin and family has been criminal. Just because they were Christian and rural, they were never treated fairly.

STUPID STATEMENT. Please name how many senators or presidents that are not Christian. WOW. They overcame the "liberal" media assault.

When you say "rural" do you mean unaware of anything outside of dogsled races and moose stew?

She was in over her head.

The media shouldn't treat everyone the same. If you are a horrible candidate you should be shown as such. Unbiased reporting does not mean that everyone is treated equally.

[foodcourtdruide]

I am hoping that there is a scandal wherein somebody is about to release a sex tape showing the soon to be ex-Governor getting tag-teamed by (select any two: Mark Sanford, Newt Gingrich, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Fez Whatley, Kim Jung Il, Bill Kristol or Bernie Madoff), if only to knock the post mortem coverage of Iron Mike Jackson out of the news.

It is certainly conceivable that the Palins may have gotten caught with their fingers in the public cookie jar up in grizzly country given the level of corruption that settled in up there when oil prices were high. (Although I shouldn't be throwing stones at the political culture of any other state given the shenanigans in Albany these days.) There may be a more benign explanantion though. I believe that Ms. Palin is shrewd (if not smart) and she may be judging that being a governor in a time of declining revenues doesn't improve one's popularity what with all the hard decisions and actual work & all, so now would be the time to cash in on her popularity with the yahoos: ie. get paid with a Fox show, a book deal & plenty of $75K speeches to the faithful. Her name would remain out there and if the economy hasn't improved by 2012 and if the adults in the Republican Party haven't reestablished control she could swoop in for a run at the big chair next time.

I guess now would be a good time to put the past behind us and reach out to the board member who not only brought Ms. Palin to our attention but I believe convinced John McCain to put her on the ticket. I don't want to mention names but I, for one, forgive you NYDrago_s. :wink:

I don't see how her quitting like this mid-term could possibly be seen as a good thing.

[TheMojoPin]

Man, some of you REALLY don't get shittles.

[A.J.]

And the sheer audacity of parading the knocked up teen around while preaching the Jesus talk - abstinence and all - makes that whole family a joke, the reverse Kennedys.

So Trig Palin is the bizarro Rosemary Kennedy?

[Serpico1103]

might be a story (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/03/palin-hockey-arena-scandal/)

I had read about that months ago. I guess the investigation is going slowly. Even if she technically did nothing wrong, she should have been aware of the appearance of impropriety. Don't hire contractors doing state work! Why risk it, even if it is a non-story it is still ammo for the unfair and mean liberal media.

[SatCam]

So Trig Palin is the bizarro Rosemary Kennedy?

I just did a search for "Rosemary Kennedy" and I noticed me and you are the only ones making Rosemary Kennedy jokes on this board

[A.J.]

I just did a search for "Rosemary Kennedy" and I noticed me and you are the only ones making Rosemary Kennedy jokes on this board

Well at least I'll know somebody else in Hell.

[Recyclerz]

I don't see how her quitting like this mid-term could possibly be seen as a good thing.

Well, it is good for Alaska, it is probably good for the country because it makes her much less likely of getting within spitting distance of the White House, I suspect it will be good for her personal financial portfolio (the trust fund nutjobs on both sides of the political fence love to throw $ at their heroes once they can legally do so - see: Guiliani & Bill Clinton) and it is good for the punditocracy if she remains in the public eye making dopey/insane comments.

[Syd]

I don't see how her quitting like this mid-term could possibly be seen as a good thing.

It isn't; she was forced out. The Alaskan governmen is second in power only to the Delaware government in the country. Some scandal was about to happen and she was told to step down so that a friend of whoever knew something could run for governor practically unopposed.

Her dropping out early leaves her with really no way of getting into the news in a meaningful way. She only sells ad time when she says something crazy so the media is going to largely ignore her till she talks about reading all the newspaper, ever or something equally as ridiculous.

[Landblast]

the Washington Post is reporting she doesn't even know the fundamentals of government.
link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/04/AR2009070401452.html?hpid=topnews)

[Ritalin]

Liberal media treatment of Palin and family has been criminal. Just because they were Christian and rural, they were never treated fairly.

Really? Mike Huckabee is Christian and rural, and the MSM treats him fairly. That's because he's not a nitwit lightweight hypocrite dipshit. He's a legitimate presidential candidate.

Sarah Palin is a mom model from the Kohl's sunday insert.

[epo]

Just thinking about this for the last day, I couldn't figure it out. Why the fuck would she leave office...it doesn't make any conventional sense.

But that's my problem with this situation...conventional wisdom. Governor Palin is an attractive political package, but seems to be by most accounts a nitwit. (Ask the McCain people who loathe her.)

So I'm starting to think unless there are legal issues, she actually thinks this is the next step to the big dance. It was my first instinct, to which I told myself..."There is no fucking way".

Of course this doesn't make conventional sense, because she doesn't have any.

[PapaBear]

Liberal media treatment of Palin and family has been criminal. Just because they were Christian and rural, they were never treated fairly.

Really? Mike Huckabee is Christian and rural, and the MSM treats him fairly. That's because he's not a nitwit lightweight hypocrite dipshit. He's a legitimate presidential candidate.

Sarah Palin is a mom model from the Kohl's sunday insert.
I find it's useless to debate with people who still use the "liberal media" "Christian and rural" argument. You'll never get them to change their tune.

[TooLowBrow]

my take on it is that she knows shes gonna die soon

[PapaBear]

Whatever happens, I hope we get to keep seeing Bristol's rack.

[SatCam]

I wouldnt mind seeing more of Willow

[PapaBear]

I wouldnt mind seeing more of Willow
Back off my bitch!

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/men/alex-rodriguez/pictures/alex-rodriguez-picture-3.jpg

[Ogre]

The democratic process is precisely what is ostracizing her. The view isn't silenced, but correctly marginalized

Well I am glad she was marginalized. I don't agree that the democratic process did it. I think that the media overall including Fox, pushed her to the edge of the cliff, then she jumped. For exactly why remains to be seen. She always did seem just a bit out of her league.

I can see idiots from my house.

[Syd]

I find it's useless to debate with people who still use the "liberal media" "Christian and rural" argument. You'll never get them to change their tune.

liberal international corporation run media

like the liberal international corporation exxon or conagra

[spoon]

Liberal media treatment of Palin and family has been criminal. Just because they were Christian and rural, they were never treated fairly.

Oh shittles! :wub:

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[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

North Korean nukes = less scary than that dope Palin wanting to be president.


Either way, we're fucked.

[epo]

FBI counters rumors, says Palin isn't under investigation (http://www.adn.com/palin/story/854318.html)

"We are not investigating her," FBI spokesman Eric Gonzalez said on Sunday. "Normally we don't confirm or deny those kind of allegations out there, but by not doing so it just casts her in a very bad light. There is just no truth to those rumors out there in the blogosphere."

Good. Now I want the crazy lady to think she should be president.

[foodcourtdruide]

FBI counters rumors, says Palin isn't under investigation (http://www.adn.com/palin/story/854318.html)



Good. Now I want the crazy lady to think she should be president.

Honestly, its not an anti-palin thing that I think there's some major scandle she's running from. Its just the only way this makes sense to me.

[epo]

Honestly, its not an anti-palin thing that I think there's some major scandle she's running from. Its just the only way this makes sense to me.

That was my initial problem too. Conventional wisdom seems to avoid that nitwit.

[IamFogHat]

I'm glad we were around to see this, historically, I think she will be part of one of the all time top ten worst political decisions of all time. I mean it was amazing, the short sightedness, the arrogance, the buffoonery, it will be amazing in the history books.

[keithy_19]

I'm glad we were around to see this, historically, I think she will be part of one of the all time top ten worst political decisions of all time. I mean it was amazing, the short sightedness, the arrogance, the buffoonery, it will be amazing in the history books.

She did the same thing when she was mayor of Wasilla. She left mid term to focus on being governor. She got that.

I got a feeling the results won't be the same though.

[Furtherman]

Not only do quitters fight, they fish!

[epo]

She did the same thing when she was mayor of Wasilla. She left mid term to focus on being governor. She got that.

I got a feeling the results won't be the same though.

She also quit 4 universities...but did she get that degree? You Betcha!

[EliSnow]

I was listening to her interview on the Today show this morning. First, she did it in fisherman gear. Second, she tried to explain that she's doing it for the people. She has all of the investigations, ethical violations charges, etc. (which she says are frivolous and that she's beat them all so far) and they are getting in the way of her running of the government, which has been very successful so far. So she's going to leave so that that stuff won't be inthe way.

She sounded so fake and bullshitty. If your actions so far have been so successful, and charges, etc. against your and your administration are frivolous, you should stay in office for the people who elected you.

[angrymissy]

She did the same thing when she was mayor of Wasilla. She left mid term to focus on being governor. She got that.

I got a feeling the results won't be the same though.

No she didn't. She served out her entire 2 terms as Mayor there, had a failed run for Lt Governor, then worked in the private sector, then became Governor.

[foodcourtdruide]

I was listening to her interview on the Today show this morning. First, she did it in fisherman gear. Second, she tried to explain that she's doing it for the people. She has all of the investigations, ethical violations charges, etc. (which she says are frivolous and that she's beat them all so far) and they are getting in the way of her running of the government, which has been very successful so far. So she's going to leave so that that stuff won't be inthe way.

She sounded so fake and bullshitty. If your actions so far have been so successful, and charges, etc. against your and your administration are frivolous, you should stay in office for the people who elected you.

I don't understand her logic. Even if she's out of office couldn't she still be investigated? Also, people in government get investigated all the time. She's under great scrutiny, and her answer is to quit her Governorship? That is so insane.

Again, good riddance. This country is better without her in office. And the conservatives that initially went crazy defending her should really be a little more critical and not just digest who FoxNews tells you them cheer.

[EliSnow]

I don't understand her logic. Even if she's out of office couldn't she still be investigated?

Yes, she can, but if she's out of office, such investigations won't then get in the way of the person governing the State.

[foodcourtdruide]

Yes, she can, but if she's out of office, such investigations won't then get in the way of the person governing the State.

I thought she was concerned with cost? This makes even less sense to me. If she is planning to run for President wouldn't she also have the same problems?

[EliSnow]

I thought she was concerned with cost? This makes even less sense to me. If she is planning to run for President wouldn't she also have the same problems?

She has not yet said that she will run for President, but yes, she would probably have the same problems then.

Now what she could argue is that she will use this time to resolve these issues and show how baseless they are, and once they are gone, she will be free and able to run for President.

The problem with that argument is the message that she can be sidetracked and/or made to quit if things get too tough for her.

[angrymissy]

I thought she was concerned with cost? This makes even less sense to me. If she is planning to run for President wouldn't she also have the same problems?

The ethics charge that has cost the State the most to investigate is the one she filed against herself. I shit you not.
http://juneauempire.com/stories/070109/sta_457304159.shtml

However, the timing, scope and other factors of the single largest expense appear to fit the case Palin filed against herself that cost $187,797 to investigate. That's almost two-thirds of the total $296,042 of all Personnel Board investigations in the last two years.

[foodcourtdruide]

She has not yet said that she will run for President, but yes, she would probably have the same problems then.

Now what she could argue is that she will use this time to resolve these issues and show how baseless they are, and once they are gone, she will be free and able to run for President.

The problem with that argument is the message that she can be sidetracked and/or made to quit if things get too tough for her.

True, I'm assuming she will run.

I think the "I took time off and settled things" is incredibly weak. If she does use it and runs for President she'll be in full campaigning mode in about 2 years. No new allegations can come up in the next 2 years?

I don't know Eli, I agree with what you're saying. That is how this will be framed by her (and possibly the media, if they want to make the election more competitive), but it is just such bullshit.

[EliSnow]

A comment from her lawyer:

The governor needed a break after being "on duty now for two and a half years solid," he said.

Well, solid except for that almost a half a year when she was running for Vice President.

And wow, two and half years of solid work.

I guess we need to start reducing our government terms of office going forward.

[Furtherman]

She did the same thing when she was mayor of Wasilla. She left mid term to focus on being governor. She got that.

Who told you this? John Ziegler?


I defense I hear of her resigning still gives me the warm fuzzy feeling that the hard-core conservatives are still delusional and that common sense will prevail any election they enter.

[EliSnow]

The part I really can't stand in her whole rationale is that her resigning is some sort of maverick political move that should be admired:

"I'm not going to take the comfortable path. I'm going to take the right path for the state," she said of her resignation, which she characterized as a matter of progressing in an unconventional way.

"That caught people off guard. ... It's out of the box and unconventional. That's what we are as Alaskans and certainly how I am as a public servant."


Hey, she doesn't follow rules. Her term was for 4 years, but it's up to her to decide who long she stays in office.

[Furtherman]

Hey! I'm out of the box and unconventional too!

So I'll be leaving at 1 today!

[brettmojo]

She has not yet said that she will run for President, but yes, she would probably have the same problems then.

Now what she could argue is that she will use this time to resolve these issues and show how baseless they are, and once they are gone, she will be free and able to run for President.

The problem with that argument is the message that she can be sidetracked and/or made to quit if things get too tough for her.
Well duh, she's a woman. 3-5 days out of every month are too tough for them to even act like regular human beings.

[underdog]

Well duh, she's a woman. 3-5 days out of every month are too tough for them to even act like regular human beings.

ZING!

[keithy_19]

Who told you this? John Ziegler?


I defense I hear of her resigning still gives me the warm fuzzy feeling that the hard-core conservatives are still delusional and that common sense will prevail any election they enter.

I'm not defending her. I was just stating something. Personally, I don't want her to be president.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm not defending her. I was just stating something.

Which was completely incorrect.

[keithy_19]

Which was completely incorrect.

Prove it was wrong.






I fact checked and I was indeed mistaken. I apologize. But my statement still wasn't defending her. In fact, I stated my opinion that she wouldn't become president.

[angrymissy]

Prove it was wrong.

I fact checked and I was indeed mistaken. I apologize. But my statement still wasn't defending her. In fact, I stated my opinion that she wouldn't become president.

Where did you hear she resigned from her Mayoral post as well... I'm curious.

[Furtherman]

Prove it was wrong.






I fact checked and I was indeed mistaken. I apologize. But my statement still wasn't defending her. In fact, I stated my opinion that she wouldn't become president.

You don't have to apologize. I'm sure if you researched the facts on your own instead of listening to some right-wing pundit, you would not have made the mistake.

[keithy_19]

Where did you hear she resigned from her Mayoral post as well... I'm curious.

I heard it on the radio. I honestly forget what I was exactly listening too as it was a few days ago. But I'm certain it was during a conservative show.

I was lazy and didn't check up on it. That's my fault.

[EliSnow]

Where did you hear she resigned from her Mayoral post as well... I'm curious.

Yesterday, I read it from a liberal blogger on CNN.com.

Here: (http://http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/06/begala.palin.republican.party/index.html)

The speculation is that, rather than returning to being a private citizen, Palin aspires to the presidency. Good luck. She quit her job as city councilwoman to run for mayor of Wasilla. She quit her job as mayor of Wasilla to run for lieutenant governor. She quit her job as the head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission to run for governor. And now she's quitting her job as governor to ... be a private citizen? Right.

[angrymissy]

She did leave after her second term as Mayor to work in the Private Sector, but not mid-term.

[TooLowBrow]

Written Testimony Submitted to the New York State Senate Aging Committee

blah blah blah (http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/note.php?note_id=130383728434&ref=nf)

Thank you for calling attention to this important matter. I look forward to working with you again to ensure that we keep the dignity of our senior citizens foremost in any health care discussion.

Sincerely,

Governor Sarah Palin

is she still governor?

[badmonkey]

is she still governor?

They keep the title.

[Jujubees2]

is she still governor?

It might be one of those titles that stays with you like president.

[epo]

They keep the title.

It might be one of those titles that stays with you like president.

Correct on both accounts.

In cell #3, Governor Rod Blagovich.

[Furtherman]

By the way, the kid who had the baby with Bristol, I think, just gave an interview about how wacky and conniving Palin is, and I believe every word of it.

[mikeyboy]

By the way, the kid who had the baby with Bristol, I think, just gave an interview about how wacky and conniving Palin is, and I believe every word of it.

link?

[HBox]

link?

There are excerpts here. The full story is in this month's Vanity Fair. (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2009/09/levi-johnston.html)

[angrymissy]

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2009/09/levi-johnston.html

Gotta buy Vanity Fair to get the whole interview.

[Furtherman]

link?

link?

grumblegrumble

Levi Johnston: "Me and Mrs. Palin" (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2009/09/levi-johnston.html)

[epo]

By the way, the kid who had the baby with Bristol, I think, just gave an interview about how wacky and conniving Palin is, and I believe every word of it.

I've read the stuff online and honestly...what a hideous group of people, him included. They seriously shouldn't be on CNN, they should be on Jerry Springer.

[SatCam]

is she still governor?

just like mikeyboy is still admin

[A.J.]

Levi Johnston: "Me and Mrs. Palin" (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2009/09/levi-johnston.html)

Spoken like a high school dropout.

[CurseoftheBambi]

Spoken like a high school dropout.
now now dont bring Ant into this!:nono:

[keithy_19]

I was sitting in a class today and we were talking about the Wife of Bath Prologue. The topic got onto sexuality and present day culture. Then some kid said that we almost had a bimbo as vice president.

I don't know he strung the thoughts together, but it seemed out of place. It also seemed like an easy shot considering it was a college classroom with a pretty liberal professor.

[SatCam]

I was sitting in a class today and we were talking about the Wife of Bath Prologue. The topic got onto sexuality and present day culture. Then some kid said that we almost had a bimbo as vice president.

I don't know he strung the thoughts together, but it seemed out of place. It also seemed like an easy shot considering it was a college classroom with a pretty liberal professor.

jeeeze after being in a classroom like that I would have to blow off some steam at the gym

[keithy_19]

I was sitting in a class today and we were talking about the Wife of Bath Prologue. The topic got onto sexuality and present day culture. Then some kid said that we almost had a bimbo as vice president.

I don't know he strung the thoughts together, but it seemed out of place. It also seemed like an easy shot considering it was a college classroom with a pretty liberal professor.

jeeeze after being in a classroom like that I would have to blow off some steam at the gym

I enjoy liberal classrooms. I enjoy free thought and asking questions and challenging preconceived notions.

It just seemed that his statement was out of the blue and used to get laughs he knew he would get given the atmosphere.

[Furtherman]

Yea, that's what most college kids think about professors - that they're either liberal or conservative.

Do a keg stand before you grow up, will ya? Jeeeze!