Sacrificing your job

[Foster]

Somewhat hypothetical situation.

At the company you work for you are a top performer, and are appreciated by management.
Though nothing is perfect, if you had to describe the perfect job for yourself this comes pretty damn close.
Salary is more than fair,especially because you're single with no dependents; just typical mortgage and car loan stuff.

Now, due to the economic situation currently going on, things are kind of slow and the rumors of layoffs are starting to go around.

When you look around your office you see a few people who under perform, and don't seem to care one way or another if the company is doing well or not. One person in particular has been talked to a few times about conducting personal business during office hours and never makes their deadlines.
However, this person is married to a woman with health issues and has two children, and due to his wife's illness has major financial problems.

Since you're single and no one really depends on you financially, do you sacrifice your job so the other guy can keep his?

[zildjian361]

hell no ,that's his problem. :bye:

[Contra]

Every man for himself!

[disneyspy]

the other guy brought it on himself,hell no

[led37zep]

Why would I lay down for someone who obviously doesn't care enough about his family to get his shit together and keep his job?

No dice.

[Farmer Dave]

No, just because you leave doesn't mean he isn't going to get the boot as well. His problems are his problems in this situation.

[TripleSkeet]

No but dont be surprised if that guy keeps his job while the top performer gets laid off. Family situations are definitely a factor in layoffs in most bosses minds, although many of them will never admit it.

[MacVittie]

Fuck that deadbeat. If he's doing everything he can to keep is job and might become an unfortunate victim of the economic times, then MAYBE he warrants a little sympathy. But if he's screwing around at work and not making deadlines, he deserves to get shitcanned.

[Misteriosa]

Fuck that deadbeat. If he's doing everything he can to keep is job and might become an unfortunate victim of the economic times, then MAYBE he warrants a little sympathy. But if he's screwing around at work and not making deadlines, he deserves to get shitcanned.

^ this. but i would have used more delicate wording :o

if he's not doing what he should at work already, this person martyring himself will not be appreciated. he'll continue to carry on in his irresponsible way, and the sacrifice will be in vain.

so again, i must concur: Fuck that deadbeat.

[Ryan Kulik]

Is this person named East Side Dave?

[Sinestro]

Fuck the slackers.

[brettmojo]

Somewhat hypothetical situation.

At the company you work for you are a top performer, and are appreciated by management.
Though nothing is perfect, if you had to describe the perfect job for yourself this comes pretty damn close.
Salary is more than fair,especially because you're single with no dependents; just typical mortgage and car loan stuff.

Now, due to the economic situation currently going on, things are kind of slow and the rumors of layoffs are starting to go around.

When you look around your office you see a few people who under perform, and don't seem to care one way or another if the company is doing well or not. One person in particular has been talked to a few times about conducting personal business during office hours and never makes their deadlines.
However, this person is married to a woman with health issues and has two children, and due to his wife's illness has major financial problems.

Since you're single and no one really depends on you financially, do you sacrifice your job so the other guy can keep his?
No.

[DJEvelEd]

You can bust your ass and you'll still get shitcanned. Unless you like your work I wouldn't bust ass for anyone. You only have to LOOK like your busting your ass. Try carrying around a clipboard and looking angry while briskly walking to your bathroom break.

I saved someone's job when I retired. They just consolidated buildings so there would have been double the people in my dept. One union guy got bumped and the other manager is sitting in my old desk. I'm beloved there almost as much as here :tongue:

[earthbrown]

Is this person named East Side Dave?

nice line, but dave is a performer in my book. IF we could just get Sirius/XM to get a Jamison machine in studio we would be set.


K

[ecobag2]

Somewhat hypothetical situation.

At the company you work for you are a top performer, and are appreciated by management.


Lost me on the latter.


Since you're single and no one really depends on you financially, do you sacrifice your job so the other guy can keep his?

Here's how a lot of the real world works...

Fuck all. Have not heart. Die. Save yourself. Then wonder why.

[ScottFromGA]

ahhh fuck these posts.


I say yes, lay down and help the fella out. Reap what you sow, right? :blink:

[~Katja~]

the guy has been talked to about his performance several times? Even you leaving would not save his job in the long run.
I don't agree with the "fuck him mentally around here, but I think in this case your being too nice of a guy won't help either of you.
If you think he may be losing his job due to performance and especially if his performance is lacking due to his families health and financial troubles, maybe have a talk with him on the side if you can help him reach his goals and become a better employee. I am assuming that you know him pretty well given the fact that you even (hypothetically) contemplate leaving your job for his benefit.

[Dirtbag]

I wouldn't care if he wasn't an unproductive slob. I'm supposed to live on the street or leech off the government because he chose to have kids? Fuck that.

[epo]

If I get a severance package and my pension benefits are re-cooped I lay on the sword. I'm more marketable than the slacker and am confident that I'll land on my feet.

[Devo37]

i wouldn't sacrifice my own job, but when i did get laid off from a job back in 2002, i felt worse for another guy that got laid off (3 kids, and a stay-at-home wife) than i did for myself (single, no kids).

[A.J.]

Since you're single and no one really depends on you financially, do you sacrifice your job so the other guy can keep his?

Being single, A LOT of people depend on you financially. Remember that when you do your taxes and have no dependents to write off.

[Gvac]

I was really expecting another "Needs of the many" response from A.J.

[cougarjake13]

Somewhat hypothetical situation.

At the company you work for you are a top performer, and are appreciated by management.
Though nothing is perfect, if you had to describe the perfect job for yourself this comes pretty damn close.
Salary is more than fair,especially because you're single with no dependents; just typical mortgage and car loan stuff.

Now, due to the economic situation currently going on, things are kind of slow and the rumors of layoffs are starting to go around.

When you look around your office you see a few people who under perform, and don't seem to care one way or another if the company is doing well or not. One person in particular has been talked to a few times about conducting personal business during office hours and never makes their deadlines.
However, this person is married to a woman with health issues and has two children, and due to his wife's illness has major financial problems.

Since you're single and no one really depends on you financially, do you sacrifice your job so the other guy can keep his?



hell no

fuck that guy

[A.J.]

I was really expecting another "Needs of the many" response from A.J.

That's communist talk -- unless your ship needs warp speed in three minutes or we're all dead.

[Bob Impact]

For your question: No.
You can bust your ass and you'll still get shitcanned. Unless you like your work I wouldn't bust ass for anyone. You only have to LOOK like your busting your ass. Try carrying around a clipboard and looking angry while briskly walking to your bathroom break.

In my career I've already fired 3 guys who do that, it's WAY more obvious than you think.

[douchebagsean]

I'd go...even if that guy continues to putz around and fucks himself out of the job at least i know i tried...plus the next job might be more gooder anyways

[boosterp]

Why would I lay down for someone who obviously doesn't care enough about his family to get his shit together and keep his job?

No dice.

No, just because you leave doesn't mean he isn't going to get the boot as well. His problems are his problems in this situation.

This and this. Best advice.

[Death Metal Moe]

No, just because you leave doesn't mean he isn't going to get the boot as well. His problems are his problems in this situation.

This was my immediate thought. While the idea is noble and I'm sure the guy you're sacrificing for would appreciate it, the next time layoffs come up he's going to be one of the top people considered. There's no way to guarantee that the loss of one person will stabilize payroll for the company.

In short, no, I wouldn't do it.

[~Katja~]

no, foster can't leave Canon, I need my inside buddy.