Adoption is a serious issue.

[lleeder]

Who ya got?

[Death Metal Moe]

Oh can't you just leave him alone? You know you're gonna get his pressure up.

[razorboy]

I'd adopt you and buy you a new keyboard.

[GreatAmericanZero]

seriously though, i work alone and when Fez announced his position of agreeing with the adoption group against the movie "orphan" i yelled, to only myself, a "WHAT?"...i couldn't believe it. i know he sided with Letterman about the Palin joke so i totally thought he was going into a rant about how ridiculous the adoption watchdog group was. Caught me off guard.

[brettmojo]

Isn't Orphan just The Good Son with a girl?

False outrage is gay.

[mikeyboy]

I'm not adopting any kids. I saw Damien fuck up his parents really bad.

[GreatAmericanZero]

Isn't Orphan just The Good Son with a girl?

False outrage is gay.

an interesting thing about "Orphan"...the lead woman in that, the mom..she was also in "The Departed"...she was in a movie with sam rockwell called "joshua" where she played the mom and it seems like the exact same movie. Its about a little boy who is a psycho child and kills people while pretending to be a sweet child to the parents face (but they know somethings up!). i don't know how many people seen "Joshua" cuz i saw it on cable, but i don't understand why an actor would do 2 movies where they play the parent of a demon child in a row...its weird to me

[Dell]

I'm thinking about adopting this 16 year-old Vietnamese girl I've had my eye on...


(I know it was a line in a movie but I couldn't remember which movie...)

[Enabler]

Isn't Orphan just The Good Son with a girl?

False outrage is gay.

Big Mac Culkin wasnt adopted in The Good Son. Neither was the hobbit. Elijah wood was just staying with his aunt and uncle becaue his mom died and his dad was on a job inetrview or some shit. But, The Good Son does prove that children, biological or adopted, are evil and must be thrown off cliffs.

[RENFIELD]

when push comes to shove...
adopted ?



like son of sam's 'dad' said...
first thing out of his mouth...

" HE'S ADOPTED !!! "

meaning = don't blame me

[ToiletCrusher]

Unless a radiation leak rendered me sterile, I wouldn't adopt.

Until then, spread that seed.

[Tallman388]

whatever happened to the PIMB option on polls?
I would like to vote Pee on Adoption movies.

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

Who want's broken kids anyway?

[Tall_James]

Dave Thomas was adopted and he created "Wendys".

Point for adoption.

[Friday]

Adopted kids can never be told "you were an accident" or "we never wanted you".

Point: Adoption

[razorboy]

Adopted kids can never be told "you were an accident" or "we never wanted you".

You underestimate me.

[~Katja~]

Ron asked at one point if one can love adopted kids as much as their own and I have to be honest, I have a kid and if I adopt another it would just not feel the same. I would still love it and obviously want it more than anything, cause the adoption process is not easy either... who would go through that if they did not absolutely want a child.

If I was unable to have children and go the adoption route I am sure these feelings are much stronger cause you don't know how it feels to become a parent through birth.

My mom was adopted and an only child, she was loved and knew no different!

[Friday]

Ron asked at one point if one can love adopted kids as much as their own and I have to be honest, I have a kid and if I adopt another it would just not feel the same.

if you actually went through this process, you would probably be surprised at how easy it is to love the adopted child just as much as the biological child.

but you haven't... so of course you have no frame of reference. which is totally fine...

as a child of adoption... i think i would rather adopt than have one of my own. because i know the challenges faced by infants born to third world countries, poverty stricken families and such.
chances are, i would have been dead well before i hit adolescence if i had not been so blessed.

[~Katja~]

if you actually went through this process, you would probably be surprised at how easy it is to love the adopted child just as much as the biological child.

but you haven't... so of course you have no frame of reference. which is totally fine...

as a child of adoption... i think i would rather adopt than have one of my own. because i know the challenges faced by infants born to third world countries, poverty stricken families and such.
chances are, i would have been dead well before i hit adolescence if i had not been so blessed.

No, but I have the reference of having had my own child and how I feel about him. I am just being honest. At the time I had him his older brother lived with us and was like my son (he sometimes even called me mom just cause that's what I had become for him) and I still to this day do not feel the same about him. I love him dearly and his well being is near to my heart, I have fought his dad hard to let me continue contact and help him get better with health issues he is dealing with but I still cannot feel the same closeness I have to my own son.
They are both laying upstairs in my bed right now cause we have a nice day out planned for tomorrow. I can absolutely tell that the love my son feels for his brother (and vice versa) is much stronger than my feelings, yet I care about him deeply!

Of course I am referencing my honest feelings here, other parents might feel different.

[GreatAmericanZero]

another comment about the people protesting the "Orphan" movie

"Orphan" is a movie about parents that adopt a girl and she turns out to be evil

how many movies have been made where someone is adopted and the parents that adopted them turn out to be evil? Gotta be hundreds of movies. So heres one where they turn it around...no big deal

how come the adoption group never gets mad about adoptive parents in movies being abusive creeps?

[Annie Waits]

someday i'd like to adopt a dog, or maybe a cat.....babies are just so time consuming

[Ritalin]

if you actually went through this process, you would probably be surprised at how easy it is to love the adopted child just as much as the biological child.

but you haven't... so of course you have no frame of reference. which is totally fine...

as a child of adoption... i think i would rather adopt than have one of my own. because i know the challenges faced by infants born to third world countries, poverty stricken families and such.
chances are, i would have been dead well before i hit adolescence if i had not been so blessed.

No, but I have the reference of having had my own child and how I feel about him. I am just being honest. At the time I had him his older brother lived with us and was like my son (he sometimes even called me mom just cause that's what I had become for him) and I still to this day do not feel the same about him. I love him dearly and his well being is near to my heart, I have fought his dad hard to let me continue contact and help him get better with health issues he is dealing with but I still cannot feel the same closeness I have to my own son.
They are both laying upstairs in my bed right now cause we have a nice day out planned for tomorrow. I can absolutely tell that the love my son feels for his brother (and vice versa) is much stronger than my feelings, yet I care about him deeply!

Of course I am referencing my honest feelings here, other parents might feel different.

If I can toss my two cents in here: my wife was adopted and last year we had our first child and also adopted our 9 year old nephew, and I'll tell you what I've seen and experienced. I think that the mistake people who don't have experience with adoption make is to idealize the parent/child relationship and expect that every relationship with every child should be exactly the same.

For example, Katja says she doesn't feel as close to her son's brother as she does to Lucas. Of course you don't, because you don't share the same experiences and circumstances. Perhaps if you did you would feel closer, but it still wouldn't be the same. Every relationship is different.

And not dependent on shared genetics. I have a step brother who is much closer to me than my "blood" brother. There are plenty of instances where a parent will favor one child over another, based on shared interest and personality.

The mystery surrounding adoptive relationships cuts both ways. It took me a while to really understand that my wife had no interest in finding her birth mother. Well, finding is the wrong word because my wife has her name and could find her anytime she wanted. She doesn't feel any connection to her. Conversely, she will sometimes get frustrated with the relationship she has with her mother and blame it on the adoption, and I have to remind her that EVERYBODY has occasional issues with their parents and it doesn't have anything to do with adoption.

To answer a question: do I feel the same way towards my 10 year old boy as I do towards my 8 month old boy? No. But why would I?

[Furtherman]

I'd adopt a transformer and program it to steal children, then sell the children on the black market and then have it make me martinis on my yacht.

It's a dream.

[biggirl]

I'd adopt a transformer and program it to steal children, then sell the children on the black market and then have it make me martinis on my yacht.

It's a dream.

Please don't come near my son...he loves transformers and would probably get in the car with you....he'd probably make a lot of money in the black market for you too....he's smart and funny, and handsome....

[biggirl]

I've always wanted to adopt...

[Serpico1103]

another comment about the people protesting the "Orphan" movie
"Orphan" is a movie about parents that adopt a girl and she turns out to be evil
how many movies have been made where someone is adopted and the parents that adopted them turn out to be evil? Gotta be hundreds of movies. So heres one where they turn it around...no big deal
how come the adoption group never gets mad about adoptive parents in movies being abusive creeps?

I think the group is being silly. BUT. I think they should protest what they want. However, the media should do real journalism and present the whole story. How many movies have come out in the past with similar plots? Is there any connection between those movies and adoption rates?
Unfortunately, the media loves headlines, minus the story. Then, people like Fez read the headline, agree with it, and take up the cause.

Even if Fez is right, that the movie will negatively effect adoption. What would he do? Ban the movie? Than what effect will that have? Now compare and see which is worse. I think most people would say (even if the movie makes adoption harder) that censorship would be worse.

[Meataball23]

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[Serpico1103]

Shockandjockshockandjockshockandjockshockandjocksh ockandjock

Sorry, I can't read that. Post it again.

[~Katja~]

If I can toss my two cents in here: my wife was adopted and last year we had our first child and also adopted our 9 year old nephew, and I'll tell you what I've seen and experienced. I think that the mistake people who don't have experience with adoption make is to idealize the parent/child relationship and expect that every relationship with every child should be exactly the same.

For example, Katja says she doesn't feel as close to her son's brother as she does to Lucas. Of course you don't, because you don't share the same experiences and circumstances. Perhaps if you did you would feel closer, but it still wouldn't be the same. Every relationship is different.

And not dependent on shared genetics. I have a step brother who is much closer to me than my "blood" brother. There are plenty of instances where a parent will favor one child over another, based on shared interest and personality.

The mystery surrounding adoptive relationships cuts both ways. It took me a while to really understand that my wife had no interest in finding her birth mother. Well, finding is the wrong word because my wife has her name and could find her anytime she wanted. She doesn't feel any connection to her. Conversely, she will sometimes get frustrated with the relationship she has with her mother and blame it on the adoption, and I have to remind her that EVERYBODY has occasional issues with their parents and it doesn't have anything to do with adoption.

To answer a question: do I feel the same way towards my 10 year old boy as I do towards my 8 month old boy? No. But why would I?

My mom is the same way about her birth mother. She has no clue who her father is but knows she has older and younger siblings and was the only one given away for adoption. She stood in front her mother's house many years ago and never went in. My dad did not understand and I still don't, but she is content not knowing who they are.