Do you hate the police?

[TheMojoPin]

Maybe we can unbunch ChrisTheCop's gigantic panties.

[lleeder]

no just sting

[west milly Tom]

Just the ones who arrested me.

[brettmojo]

No.

Even though it's not a popular opinion.

[underdog]

No.

Even though it's not a popular opinion.

It is?

[lleeder]

It is?

he's from oakland

[IMSlacker]

What happened to the poll?

[JPMNICK]

i do not hate police at all, and I do not understand how people can. I grew up in suburbs, then was at school in newark for 5 years. I have never been unfairly harrased or anything. i was drunk in public, and I got in trouble for it, but i have also been let go a bunch of times for little things like tints or whatever. i think it is a rough job and like anyone they make mistakes and some people push the system. same for lawyers, doctors, athletes, and computer nerds.

[TheMojoPin]

What happened to the poll?

No idea. It accepted the 4 votes for the 2nd option but wasn't updating the number. Hopefully it's fixed now.

[HBox]

I am devastated there is no fart-based poll option.

[lleeder]

What happened to the poll?

a cop beat an innocent man with it and it broke

[brettmojo]

Should have made it anonymous.

Would have made it more accurate.

[TheMojoPin]

Should have made it anonymous.

Would have made it more accurate.

There's zero reason anyone here shouldn't be honest with this.

[lleeder]

one time my friend got pulled over for dwi and busted. 4 of us were all drunk in the car. one of the officers on the scene kept saying to me " hey you seem sober you could drive out of here if you want" yea right thanks alot

[Contra]

I think it depends where you live. I think someone mentioned Newark and getting let go for tints. If they where talking about Newark NJ, in bloomfield which is a town over, I've seen cops peel layers for tint off of window and use light gauges in order to hand out tickets. Myself, I don't hate the police, I'm just very cautious of them.

[RhinoinMN]

I have had too many instances where the cops were dicks to me and I know some people that are cops and they tell me the shitty things they do to perps just for laughs.

I'm wary, but act accordingly. What are gonna do? Its their world.

[foodcourtdruide]

This poll will be completely ignored and next time there is a police related issue ChrisTheCop will tell us all how much we hate the police.

[ChrisTheCop]

Yeah. This ain't helping relieve my scrotal troubles.

Why is it when ever I point something out I'm either being subversive (damn I forget the pseudo psychological term that's always used),
or i'm being too sensitve ?

It's just a fact. And I enjoy sticking up for my brothers and sisters in law enforcement.
Just wish I didn't have to, here, so often.

[red_red_red]

the cops in my town are ok, i'm even friendly with one of them. he does traffic duty @ the high school in the mornings and afternoons, he just likes to chat me up while i'm on the ramp waiting.


but fuck the po po up north, they are crass and full of themselves...i mighta gotten a few underage drinking fines, what bullshit.

[TheMojoPin]

Why is it when ever I point something out I'm either being subversive (damn I forget the pseudo psychological term that's always used),
or i'm being too sensitve ?

Passive aggressive. Persecution complex.

That'll be $350, please.

It's just a fact. And I enjoy sticking up for my brothers and sisters in law enforcement.
Just wish I didn't have to, here, so often.

You don't "have" to. There are some people who don't like the police, but most of us here clearly judge each situation that comes up on a case by case basis. Sometimes the opinions of the police are generally positive. Sometimes they are negative. Such is life. Either way, they're always talked/argued/debated out and you have people on all sides of each situation. Your "facts" about everyone here hating cops or wanting to hate the cops or whatever is today aren't facts at all.

[west milly Tom]

the cops in my town are ok, i'm even friendly with one of them. he does traffic duty @ the high school in the mornings and afternoons, he just likes to chat me up while i'm on the ramp waiting.


but fuck the po po up north, they are crass and full of themselves...i mighta gotten a few underage drinking fines, what bullshit.




A few? I'd love to get a hold of your sheet.

[red_red_red]

A few? I'd love to get a hold of your sheet.
pot kettle and all that happy horseshit

[west milly Tom]

pot kettle and all that happy horseshit



:lol:

[ChrisTheCop]

Passive aggressive! Yes! Thanks.
Whenever I make a valid argument in any discussion,
I look forward to that gem being thrown out again.

[weekapaugjz]

i currently work for a police department so my view of police has changed pretty substantially over the past year and a half. they bust their ass to attempt to do the right thing. sometimes they get things wrong, they are only human. of course you are gonna have some assholes in there, but tell me one profession where there aren't some assholes. i fully support the police.

[TheMojoPin]

Passive aggressive! Yes! Thanks.
Whenever I make a valid argument in any discussion,
I look forward to that gem being thrown out again.

Chris, in all seriousness, what is valid about continually acting like any disagreement with you is due to someone not liking you or what you do for a job or having something personal against the person or issue being discussed? That's what I'm replying to. When someone counters something you've said you act like nothing was said that deserves to be discussed and instead make like someone just has a grudge against you or the issue at hand. I'm not saying everything I or anyone else says is legit, but it seems like you take every disagreement with your position personally.

[ChrisTheCop]

Nicely put Week.

[Contra]

i currently work for a police department so my view of police has changed pretty substantially over the past year and a half. they bust their ass to attempt to do the right thing. sometimes they get things wrong, they are only human. of course you are gonna have some assholes in there, but tell me one profession where there aren't some assholes. i fully support the police.

My cousin is a East orange NJ cop, my dad's best friend is a fairfield NJ cop, so I have respect for cops (plus Chris who I consider a friend). However I have been on the receiving end of some backward hillbilly justice out here in PA, but then even stupid tint shit my friends have gone through NJ as I mentioned earlier.

[TheMojoPin]

My cousin is a East orange NJ cop, my dad's best friend is a fairfield NJ cop, so I have respect for cops (plus Chris who I consider a friend). However I have been on the receiving end of some backward hillbilly justice out here in PA, but then even stupid tint shit my friends have gone through NJ as I mentioned earlier.

Like I've said before, my dad was a police officer. I've grown up around them and don't have any kind of hatred for them. In terms of their job, yes, I think I am automatically somewhat skeptical of their actions, just as I am of anyone who has a job or position where they have significantly more power at their disposal than most of the people they deal with. That doesn't mean I dislike them or always assume the worst about them: I just think it's important to not just assume that anyone in such a position is automatically in the right and that anything or even most of what they do or say is the right thing or that they are infallable or should be given the benefit of the doubt in that regard. We need to hold them to higher standards precisely because of the job they do.

[Marc with a c]

everytime i see a cop i smack them in the face.

[STC-Dub]

I have no problems with the police.

[Contra]

Like I've said before, my dad was a police officer. I've grown up around them and don't have any kind of hatred for them. In terms of their job, yes, I think I am automatically somewhat skeptical of their actions, just as I am of anyone who has a job or position where they have significantly more power at their disposal than most of the people they deal with. That doesn't mean I dislike them or always assume the worst about them: I just think it's important to not just assume that anyone in such a position is automatically in the right and that anything or even most of what they do or say is the right thing or that they are infallable or should be given the benefit of the doubt in that regard. We need to hold them to higher standards precisely because of the job they do.

This, you put it so nicely Mojo, how can I love you and hate you all at the same time? Very confusing!

[TheMojoPin]

This, you put it so nicely Mojo, how can I love you and hate you all at the same time? Very confusing!

I am a walking contradiction.

The police are just human beings: they're capable of doing all the good in the world and all the bad, just like the rest of us.

[ChrisTheCop]

If you or anyone has ever felt slighted by my replies or lack thereof, I apologize.
I simply get tired of restating my opinion over n over again in the same thread.
There are many people on ronfez.net who prefer commenting on an anti cop story than on a pro cop story.
Some may say that's because anti cop stories are generally more interesting and that is my point.
Some people act as if all cops are bad, yes it's been said, But if that's true why is it so interesting when
bad cops are revealed? Wouldn't it be more unusual when a good cop is uncovered?

I AM more sensitive to peoples feelings toward the police, go figure, because I am one of them.
Would you be telling a woman to not take misogyny so seriously? Or a black man to
ease up on people using black stereotypes? Granted, they are quite different categories,
but my problem most of the time is the ease many people here have with using such
anti cop stereotypes.

[sr71blackbird]

I have no problems with the police. Every time I had a negative encounter, it was my own fault. I cannot imagine what they have to put up with. They probably have to go from one call where they are breaking up a domestic disturbance between skells and the next minute they are responding to a killed child, to a rape to a beating to a robbery, etc etc. Everything they encounter is bad in one way or another. How they keep their cool and don't shoot everyone is a miracle. I even helped a cop once, I was getting gas and saw a cop pushing a car or a woman whose car had broken down in an intersection, and it was pouring rain and he was pushing it by himself to keep her safe. I ran over and helped him push the car out of traffic and he appreciated it.

[ChrisTheCop]

And as long as we're not automatically assuming they're in the right. Can we also
not automatically assume they're in the wrong?

[Dude!]

i am generally a little afraid
of the police
even though i am a good boy

i don't feel intimidated
by local police, usually

but the State Police....
and I say this with the utmost respect...
them i don't like

[ChrisTheCop]

And Marc really does smack me in the face everytime he sees me.

I'm still trying to get his lipstick off from the last encounter.

[ecobag2]

no just sting

thread over.

Police tend to run hot and cold with me.

Handcuffs on - not a big fan.

Off, hey ... no problem.

[Contra]

And as long as we're not automatically assuming they're in the right. Can we also
not automatically assume they're in the wrong?

Done and done!

[drjoek]

M. C. Ren, will you please give your testimony to the jury about this fucked up incident.

[TheMojoPin]

There are many people on ronfez.net who prefer commenting on an anti cop story than on a pro cop story.
Some may say that's because anti cop stories are generally more interesting and that is my point.
Some people act as if all cops are bad, yes it's been said, But if that's true why is it so interesting when
bad cops are revealed? Wouldn't it be more unusual when a good cop is uncovered?

No, because most people here don't assume all cops are "bad." "Negative" stories tend to be the most sensational and thusly tend to be the ones that get people talking. That's not just the case when it comes to the police.

[DiabloSammich]

M. C. Ren, will you please give your testimony to the jury about this fucked up incident.



The jury has found you guilty of being a redneck, white bread, chicken shit motherfucker.

[furie]

i support the police as an entity. most of my family are or were cops, mostly nypd and i have several friends that are cops. that being said, i have noticed over the years that there can be a certain degree of douchbagery coming from cops towards people who weren't cops. both professionally and off duty

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[TheMojoPin]

The jury has found you guilty of being a redneck, white bread, chicken shit motherfucker.

MC Gusto, Stab Master Arson and Dead Mike, you have been sentenced by the MAN to serve a LIFE SENTENCE on CELL BLOCK 4.

[Crispy123]

The Police are great!

[Contra]

MC Gusto, Stab Master Arson and Dead Mike, you have been sentenced by the MAN to serve a LIFE SENTENCE on CELL BLOCK 4.

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[TripleSkeet]

When I was younger I would get harrassed by the cops alot, but I found that like most cases, for every jerk off there were about 20 good ones. Besides their main bitch was hanging on street corners, but theyd never arrest us. The worst theyd do is throw us in a car or paddywagon and drive us a few miles away and make us walk home. We got along with the cops even when they were breaking our balls.

There was one time though when a different cop then the ones that usually bothered us showed up. He told my younger cousins and some friend to go hang in a schoolyard around the corner. As soon as they walked in 3 black kids popped out, pulled a gun and robbed them. When us older kids showed up back on the corner and found out it got ugly. The cop came back and told us to leave and got verbally beat down. I mean there were N bombs being dropped on this guy. We all were fully expecting to go to jail that night. Instead he just drove off. Only real problem Ive ever had with them.

I mean its one thing to break balls, a totally different situation to put a kid in danger over hanging on a corner in front of his house.

[razorboy]

Fuck that shit, cause I ain't the one, for a punk mutherfucker with a badge and a gun, to be beaten on, and thrown in jail. We could go toe to toe in the middle of a cell.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

i do not hate police at all, and I do not understand how people can. I grew up in suburbs, then was at school in newark for 5 years. I have never been unfairly harrased or anything. i was drunk in public, and I got in trouble for it, but i have also been let go a bunch of times for little things like tints or whatever. i think it is a rough job and like anyone they make mistakes and some people push the system. same for lawyers, doctors, athletes, and computer nerds.

Italian? check
White? check
Suburbia? check

I can see why you, like I, do not have cause to hate the popo's.

[A.J.]

Police? No.

PO-leeece? Yes.

[CountryBob]

I love the police - if it wasnt for them, I'd drive drunk every night and probably kill somebody.

[ToiletCrusher]

I'm ok with them.

[IMSlacker]

Only The Dicks hate the police.

[TripleSkeet]

Italian? check
White? check
Suburbia? check

I can see why you, like I, do not have cause to hate the popo's.

Cops dont bother Italians??? Thats news to me.

And you cant be Italian and white. Its one or the other.

[furie]

Cops dont bother Italians??? Thats news to me.

And you cant be Italian and white. Its one or the other.

i'm glad someone finally said it

[TripleSkeet]

i'm glad someone finally said it

Problem is you can call someone Italian and black either. (Unless they are sicilian) :tongue:

[Aggie]

I definitely don't hate cops. I wouldn't hesitate to call them or ask them for help if I was in need. Overall I respect them and think they do a wonderful job (and what a hard job it is)!

However, I do hate the racist ones. You can't sugar coat and say there aren't bad apples but that in no way should ruin it for the rest of the honest, brave and self sacrificing police officers.

Any sweeping generalizations of a group is ignorant and ridiculous.

[ChrisTheCop]

I definitely don't hate cops. I wouldn't hesitate to call them or ask them for help if I was in need. Overall I respect them and think they do a wonderful job (and what a hard job it is)!

However, I do hate the racist ones. You can't sugar coat and say there aren't bad apples but that in no way should ruin it for the rest of the honest, brave and self sacrificing police officers.

Any sweeping generalizations of a group is ignorant and ridiculous.

Thank you Aggie, we love you too!

I think we can all agree that racists are bad.

[TheMojoPin]

And cops.

WHACKITY-SHMACKITY-DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Zorro]

Like I've said before, my dad was a police officer. I've grown up around them and don't have any kind of hatred for them. In terms of their job, yes, I think I am automatically somewhat skeptical of their actions, just as I am of anyone who has a job or position where they have significantly more power at their disposal than most of the people they deal with. That doesn't mean I dislike them or always assume the worst about them: I just think it's important to not just assume that anyone in such a position is automatically in the right and that anything or even most of what they do or say is the right thing or that they are infallable or should be given the benefit of the doubt in that regard. We need to hold them to higher standards precisely because of the job they do.

You mean like the President?

[TheMojoPin]

You mean like the President?

Of course. Why wouldn't that apply to the President? It applies to anyone who has been given responsibilities and authority and the powers that come with them.

[keithy_19]

I kind of think the second and third option are similar. I don't know which to chose.

[TheMojoPin]

I kind of think the second and third option are similar. I don't know which to chose.

The 2nd option says you're not cirtical of them more often than you are. The 3rd says you're usually wary of them more often than not.

[sailor]

The 2nd option says you're not cirtical of them more often than you are. The 3rd says you're usually wary of them more often than not.

it was clear.

[TheMojoPin]

Am I coming in clear?

I said, "AM I COMING IN CLEAR?"

[Ogre]

I love the police - if it wasnt for them, I'd drive drunk every night and probably kill somebody.

QFT

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Problem is you can call someone Italian and black either. (Unless they are sicilian) :tongue:

Yeah, I suppose there were some holes in my logic.

[dickydean]

i do not hate police at all, and I do not understand how people can. I grew up in suburbs, then was at school in newark for 5 years. I have never been unfairly harassed or anything. i was drunk in public, and I got in trouble for it, but i have also been let go a bunch of times for little things like tints or whatever. i think it is a rough job and like anyone they make mistakes and some people push the system. same for lawyers, doctors, athletes, and computer nerds.

WOW you pretty much said exactly what I was going to post. I'm glad I looked before I spoke.

[keithy_19]

If I could change my answer, I'd go with the second choice. I mistakenly picked the third.

[Cyber Trucker]

I love the they are always holding at the partys plus the have the best stuff.:thumbup:

[KnoxHarrington]

Here's the thing: overall, yes, I appreciate the police and the job they do keeping order.

But if you support the police without question, you are a moron, and a horrible citizen.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Here's the thing: overall, yes, I appreciate the police and the job they do keeping order.

But if you support the police without question, you are a moron, and a horrible citizen.

Actually, you'd be a terrific citizen. You'd just be a moron.

[Contra]

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[red_red_red]

http://www.tshirtmessenger.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/tatouage-embarrassant.bmp
:laugh: i love the dick look on the cops face...and bravo sierra, "da" not "the"

[CurseoftheBambi]

I appreciate what they do though I can be critical of them at times.
is what i chose because I do love what the cops do and what they represent...but because they're human and aren't the "badge" they deserve to be looked at critically at times. They don't deserve to be above judgement, they're human not gods. They do deserve some respect but like anyone in authority they do need to have the someone watching what they do because they can be corrupt just like anyone else...but with more consequences abuse of power, authority can be devastating to those wronged.

[ChrisTheCop]

is what i chose because I do love what the cops do and what they represent...but because they're human and aren't the "badge" they deserve to be looked at critically at times. They don't deserve to be above judgement, they're human not gods. They do deserve some respect but like anyone in authority they do need to have the someone watching what they do because they can be corrupt just like anyone else...but with more consequences abuse of power, authority can be devastating to those wronged.

Very level headed and well thought out post*.
Please remember this before rushing to post another "gotcha" thread.

FYI, I selected the same choice.

*Believe me, no one thinks of us as gods.

[disneyspy]

never forget the days after 9/11

[razorboy]

never forget the days after 9/11

I won't. I got busted for possession.

[CurseoftheBambi]

Please remember this before rushing to post another "gotcha" thread.

I dont post gotcha threads.:tongue::thumbdown:

[newport king]

so i'm driving home tonight after a 13 hr tour. i'm getting on the turnpike and see a trooper behind me...i enter the tpk, and as i'm done with my cigarette, reactionary thing to do is flick it out the window.

this mother fucker proceeds to pull me over, for littering. ARE YOU SERIOUS???

oh on top of that my registration lapsed as of 7/31 and now my fucking truck is impounded. good times.

guess which one i voted.

[sailor]

guess which one i voted.

it's not a secret ballot.

[Doogie]

it's not a secret ballot.

Pee in my butt??

[extracheese]

throwing a lit cigarette out the window is very dangerous. Its well known that the spark can ignite the oil under the car behind you, causing a fire/death.

Besides that smoking is a distgusting habit.
Unregistered vehicles are a menace to the road.

That cop should win employee of the month.

[ChrisTheCop]

I think people forget that cops arent the ones who make the laws.

[newport king]

throwing a lit cigarette out the window is very dangerous. Its well known that the spark can ignite the oil under the car behind you, causing a fire/death.

Besides that smoking is a distgusting habit.
Unregistered vehicles are a menace to the road.

That cop should win employee of the month.

fuck you do-gooder.

i knew when i posted the story it was going to be met with a ridiculous response like that.

to be pulled over in the first place for "littering" is absurd.
anyone i've relayed this story to their first reaction is "are you serious?" maybe its just the people i roll with.

the registration ended on the 31st...my bad. yeah really menacing.

and i hear what you're saying chris, and in my opinion he wasn't a BAD cop. I've dealt with much worse. As far as laws go, it was exciting to sit in the back seat as he gave me a ride 3 exits away ,which i realize he didn't have to do, doing anywhere between 90 and 110 mph. (i felt like McLovin) AND cutting across 4 solid white lines which i KNOW is illegal.

But yeah a cigarette butt is going to make someone car burst into flames.

[PapaBear]

I've never heard of a cig causing a car to burst into flames. That's just ridiculous. But it can cause bad fires in the right conditions. I didn't read your story. If you were in the city, then it's not a big deal aside from minor littering. But if it was on a highway with a grass median, then it's bad.

[newport king]

it was the new jersey turnpike....i wouldnt be causing a wildfire.

[PapaBear]

it was the new jersey turnpike....i wouldnt be causing a wildfire.
But did anyone run calling Wiiiiiildfire?

[ChrisTheCop]

it was the new jersey turnpike....i wouldnt be causing a wildfire.

You made a Sicilian Indian cry.

[TripleSkeet]

I didnt think cigarettes were littering because they are biodrgradeable. Kinda like throwing out a pizza crust. Not supposed to be littering if it returns to the earth.

[ChrisTheCop]

I didnt think cigarettes were littering because they are biodrgradeable. Kinda like throwing out a pizza crust. Not supposed to be littering if it returns to the earth.

And that, Newport King, is exactly what you should say to the judge when you fight the ticket. PLEASE call youtube so they can come down and film it.

[PapaBear]

The filters aren't biodegradable. BTW... I smoke. I never throw my butts out of the window. But I do throw the sticks from Tootsie Pops out of my window sometimes. And I will spit gum out of the window, but only in an area where I don't think anyone will ever step in the gum.

[TooLowBrow]

The filters aren't biodegradable. BTW... I smoke. I never throw my butts out of the window.

walking down the street i am disheartened by the amount of 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, even 5 year old cigarette butts

im just glad youre saving those butts. if they arent biodegradable then never throw them out.


its often been said that thousands of years after humanity cigarette butts will be the only thing that will show that we were ever here

[PapaBear]

walking down the street i am disheartened by the amount of 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, even 5 year old cigarette butts

im just glad youre saving those butts. if they arent biodegradable then never throw them out.


its often been said that thousands of years after humanity cigarette butts will be the only thing that will show that we were ever here
They hold DNA, too (I've seen it on CSI). Someday, robot dinosaurs will extract that DNA. They will create an amusement park with cloned human. AND WE WILL KILL THEM ALL!!!!

[TooLowBrow]

They hold DNA, too (I've seen it on CSI). Someday, robot dinosaurs will extract that DNA. They will create an amusement park with cloned human. AND WE WILL KILL THEM ALL!!!!

so we SHOULD toss our butts out the window?

they dont even put ashtrays in cars anymore, what else are you supposed to do?

[PapaBear]

so we SHOULD toss our butts out the window?

they dont even put ashtrays in cars anymore, what else are you supposed to do?
It's evolution, baby. Ashtrays disappear. Go look in the smoking section of your local big box retailer. They now have ash trays designed to fit in cup holders.

[TooLowBrow]

It's evolution, baby. Ashtrays disappear. Go look in the smoking section of your local big box retailer. They now have ash trays designed to fit in cup holders.

its disgusting to hoard your waste

[high fly]

Po-lice is a mixed bag, just like any other profession.
It's great when they do what we hire them to do, but that blue wall of silence that goes up when they do wrong generates distrust among the citizenry.

There have been a number of times when I was proud of their performance and plenty of others when they abused their authority.

One of my fave bad cop stories was from back in the late '80s in Fredericksburg, Virginia.
There was a series of unsolved burglaries, including a few toy stores that got hit shortly before Christmas.
When they brought the tracking dog, it kept going straight to the sergeant, who would grin and pat the dog on the head, saying "nice doggie."
Eventually it was discovered pretty much every cop on the night shift was a member of the burglary ring and they were working the scenes of their own crimes...

[cougarjake13]

never had any problems with them

[high fly]

Oh I have other stories as well.
One time I was having a really rotten day, just one bad thing after the other and was leaving National airport after dropping someone off. I decided to come back through Alexandria and made a wrong turn.
So I came to an intersection where there was no one in sight and made an illegal u-turn.
Alexandria cop came from nowhere and nailed me.
Fine, I was guilty, there's no use arguing and I was just going to send in the fine.

But the sumbitch ran my license and it wasn't on the Alexandria computer.
He said I didn't have a license and I pointed out he was holding it, so there must be something wrong with the computer. Either that or I had a forged license. I asked him if he was going to arrest me for forgery and he said no.
So I couldn't move the car and it was late by then - about 11:30 pm. All I could do was call someone to drive me and my car and the only person to call was someone I hadn't talked to in a couple years.
They got there in about 30 minutes, but by then the tow truck the cop called was taking my car while the cop chuckled with the tow truck driver.
The cop kept my license.

I live 50 miles away.
So I had to crash at my friend's house, catch a bus back home and then get a ride back up there to pay the $160 fee from the towing lot 8 hours later; plus have another friend along to drive my car back home where I couldn't drive or do anything because by then it was Saturday.
So Monday I had to bum another ride out to DMV to get a duplicate license and also a printout of my record from the main computer in Richmond, which showed I was licensed to drive and had an 11-year clean record.

In court, the cop said I had no license and I basically called him a liar, produced the printout and asked for my license back. he just mumbled and the judge saw through his bullshit.
The judge threw it out as I was about to ask them to pay me for the towing lot fee and some damages for the hell I was put through.
I got one hell of a runaround trying to get my money back.
I got sent from the clerk of the court to the county treasurer to the po-lice station where I loudly talked about the dirty cop (by name) who stole my license and perjured himself.
That got me in front of a high-ranking fuzz in a back office where I could not be heard. I told him the whole story and they stroked me a check for my $160....

[ChrisTheCop]

Po-lice is a mixed bag, just like any other profession.
It's great when they do what we hire them to do, but that blue wall of silence that goes up when they do wrong generates distrust among the citizenry.

There have been a number of times when I was proud of their performance and plenty of others when they abused their authority.


and then he goes on to tell only bad stories about the po-lice, or fuzz as he calls them.

ridonkulous.

Akin to "I support the troops, but..."

Do people really think we dont see through this patronizing bullshit?

[high fly]

Great defense there, flatfoot..............

[ChrisTheCop]

Great defense there, flatfoot..............

What am I supposed to be defending? I dont know any of the people in your ridiculous tales.

[Doogie]

What am I supposed to be defending? I dont know any of the people in your ridiculous tales.

Exactly...he had one bad encounter with one fucked up cop (happens a lot more nowadays when you lower the standards) and he is mad at all of them. That high ranking guy did the right thing. Ok, I understand your being pissed, but that guy did the right thing by you. Dont go judging all by the mistakes of one though.

[Chigworthy]

I love the police, especially the one I'm married to.

[TheMojoPin]

Exactly...he had one bad encounter with one fucked up cop (happens a lot more nowadays when you lower the standards) and he is mad at all of them.

If he is then why did he vote "I appreciate what they do though I can be critical of them at times?"

[Chigworthy]

If he is then why did he vote "I appreciate what they do though I can be critical of them at times?"

To fool rubes.

[Sue_Bender]

Some good. Some bad.


I keep my distance until I get busted for drunk driving





again.

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[ChrisTheCop]

If he is then why did he vote "I appreciate what they do though I can be critical of them at times?"

Because what people want to believe isnt always what they actually believe.

His own words speak louder than his vote.

[TheMojoPin]

Because what people want to believe isnt always what they actually believe.

His own words speak louder than his vote.

Or he's just doing exactly what the option says: "being critical of them at times."

[ChrisTheCop]

Or he's just doing exactly what the option says: "being critical of them at times."

You may want to read again, and feel the tone of his posts,
the language he chooses.

I'm definitely not reading into THIS one, Mojo.

He's entitled to his opinions, of course, but let's be aware of what they are before we defend them.

[TheMojoPin]

He's not obligated to counter his "bad cop" stories with "good cop" stories. For most people it's the bad ones that are going to stick out because they are typically such aberrations. His tone is that he was and is pissed over those events. Makes sense given what he described. That doesn't mean that he hates the police: it means that he hated those situations and probably isn't too fond of those police officers, which is a pretty natural response to such a thing.

[ChrisTheCop]

I never said he had to or even should tell good stories.
I said he was entitled to his opinion
and simply asked those reading his opinion to understand what
it is. Pretty simple stuff.

[TheMojoPin]

I never said he had to or even should tell good stories.
I said he was entitled to his opinion
and simply asked those reading his opinion to understand what
it is. Pretty simple stuff.

There's been nary a personal story told here that reflected negatively on a police officer (or officers) that you didn't reply to without essentially accusing the person telling it of actually hating or disliking the police in general. There's really no reason to assume that high fly's stories reflect some larger hatred or negative opinion of all police since they're specific stories about specifc officers that he didn't like.

[lleeder]

its amazing how that line fits every thread perfectly

[sailor]

damn, guess this one's covered.

[Drunky McBetidont]

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[DarkHippie]

As a general rule, I distrust anyone with the power to fuck up my shit. That includes cops, doctors, politicians, lawyers, co-workers, and human resource officers.

It doesn't mean I hate them, but we should be wary of those in power misusing that power, and when they do, nail their asses to the wall.

[Dude!]

As a general rule, I distrust anyone with the power to fuck up my shit. That includes cops, doctors, politicians, lawyers, co-workers, and human resource officers.

It doesn't mean I hate them, but we should be wary of those in power misusing that power, and when they do, nail their asses to the wall.

you got it
question authority

[Gvac]

As a general rule, I distrust anyone with the power to fuck up my shit. That includes cops, doctors, politicians, lawyers, co-workers, and human resource officers.

It doesn't mean I hate them, but we should be wary of those in power misusing that power, and when they do, nail their asses to the wall.

Even politicians who are on the side of the aisle you prefer?

That's where I seem to differ from most.

Republicans think their leaders can do no wrong, as do Democrats.

They ALL have the powere to "fuck up your shit" to borrow Hippie's eloquent expression.

Distrust each and every one of those slimy cocksuckers.

[zildjian361]

when YOU fuck up it's on you , if you might need them good:wink:

[TheMojoPin]

Distrust each and every one of those slimy cocksuckers.

There's a difference between being aware and even skeptical and then actually just distrusting everyone. The third isn't productive at all and is essentially just paranoia. Dismissing everyone like that is just lazy.

[Gvac]

There's a difference between being aware and even skeptical and then actually just distrusting everyone. The third isn't productive at all and is essentially just paranoia.

I'm just sick and tired of liberals trashing a Republican for something but then praising it when a Democrat does it, or when a conservative does the same thing in reverse.

Blind party allegiance is far worse than being wary of ANYONE who actively seeks and campaigns for power.

[TheMojoPin]

Blind party allegiance is far worse than being wary of ANYONE who actively seeks and campaigns for power.

Agreed on the first but disagree on the second. It's basically impossible for someone to just fall into a position of power and/or authority and if they somehow do then they're likely totally wrong for the job. It's simply not realistic to dismiss anyone who seeks any kind of power or authority. Cast a critical eye towards them because of the position they're in, definitely, but to be wary as if the majority of, say police officer or politicians, are out to "get us" is a needless overreaction.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm just sick and tired of liberals trashing a Republican for something but then praising it when a Democrat does it, or when a conservative does the same thing in reverse.

This is nothing new. It's what people do in regards to almost anything they view as being "theirs." It's how it's always been in the political arena and how it is with pretty much everything else where you can draw up sides or groups of supporters or fanbases.

[DarkHippie]

Even politicians who are on the side of the aisle you prefer?

That's where I seem to differ from most.

Republicans think their leaders can do no wrong, as do Democrats.

They ALL have the powere to "fuck up your shit" to borrow Hippie's eloquent expression.

Distrust each and every one of those slimy cocksuckers.

There are alot of politicians that I like, but I dont think there are many I trust. Politics is a dirty job, and there is a lot of temptation and compromising beliefs involved. Even someone with the best of intentions can end up selling his soul