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Reynolds
07-31-2009, 10:22 PM
Simplify and write with positive exponents: http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7683/mth100w4assg3.gif

razorboy
07-31-2009, 10:30 PM
Sorry. I'm still working on physical chemistry.

MacVittie
07-31-2009, 10:59 PM
first, we'll simplify the constants. 9/18 = 1/2. so our expression is:

[x(x^-3)]/[2x^15]

let's look at the numerator: x(x^-3)

when we multiple x(x^-3), we get x^-2, so our numerator is x^-2. We can make the exponent positive by putting it in the denominator, to get 1/(x^2).

we mulitply this by our denominator to get 1/[2x^17]

Reynolds
07-31-2009, 11:02 PM
first, we'll simplify the constants. 9/18 = 1/2. so our expression is:

[x(x^-3)]/[2x^15]

let's look at the numerator: x(x^-3)

when we multiple x(x^-3), we get x^-2, so our numerator is x^-2. We can make the exponent positive by putting it in the denominator, to get 1/(x^2).

we mulitply this by our denominator to get 1/[2x^17]

You're the best

Reynolds
08-01-2009, 12:06 AM
first, we'll simplify the constants. 9/18 = 1/2. so our expression is:

[x(x^-3)]/[2x^15]

let's look at the numerator: x(x^-3)

when we multiple x(x^-3), we get x^-2, so our numerator is x^-2. We can make the exponent positive by putting it in the denominator, to get 1/(x^2).

we mulitply this by our denominator to get 1/[2x^17]

Wait, why is x(x^-3), x^-2 ?

zentraed
08-01-2009, 01:23 AM
Wait, why is x(x^-3), x^-2 ?


x (x^-3) = x^1 * x^-3

By the law of exponents, you add the exponents together, so we get

x^(1-3) = x^-2

Farmer Dave
08-01-2009, 04:29 AM
I hate you all.

OGC
08-01-2009, 04:32 AM
I knew that.

Furtherman
08-01-2009, 05:24 AM
1.21 Jiggawatts.

DiabloSammich
08-01-2009, 05:27 AM
The answer is clearly boobs.

zildjian361
08-01-2009, 05:37 AM
wow haven't seen algebra since my high school days at Brooklyn Tech, i passed it and geometry too, but don't remember any of it long time ago.

LordJezo
08-01-2009, 06:25 AM
http://www00.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%289x%28x^-3%29%29%2F%2818x^15%29
Says MacVittie is right.

SatCam
08-01-2009, 02:04 PM
exponents was of the units I slept thru and still managed to pass in algebra II (with a D+)

MacVittie
08-01-2009, 02:10 PM
future high school math teacher here. I'm starting student teaching in about a month.

Gvac
08-01-2009, 02:39 PM
future high school math teacher here. I'm starting student teaching in about a month.


Congratulations and best of luck.

I too was something of a math whiz back in the day but sadly have forgotten most, if not all, of it.

Aside from simple multiplication, division, addition, subtraction, and percentages, I don't think I use any mathematics on an even semi-regular basis.

DolaMight
08-01-2009, 02:55 PM
I have butter on my head.

zildjian361
08-01-2009, 03:18 PM
future high school math teacher here. I'm starting student teaching in about a month.

leave the gay out of it. Quick whats 11x 11

zildjian361
08-01-2009, 03:19 PM
I have butter on my head.

what the fuck does that mean

MacVittie
08-01-2009, 03:24 PM
leave the gay out of it. Quick whats 11x 11

121. Easy.

MacVittie
08-01-2009, 03:28 PM
Congratulations and best of luck.

I too was something of a math whiz back in the day but sadly have forgotten most, if not all, of it.

Aside from simple multiplication, division, addition, subtraction, and percentages, I don't think I use any mathematics on an even semi-regular basis.

Sadly, a lot of what is taught in high school has little application to the real world. I love geometry/trigonometry and find them fascinating, but unless you're an engineer or an architect, you'll never use them beyond high school.

If I designed the curriculum, I would be a stronger emphasis on logic and statistic. Both those are very useful in understanding what is reported to us in the media and can give us a much more clairvoyant view of the world.

I stopped believing in fate once I took advanced statistics in college.

Kublakhan61
08-01-2009, 03:31 PM
Pemdas

MacVittie
08-01-2009, 03:34 PM
Pemdas

ah, a classic from 6th grade.

"Please excuse my dear aunt sally" was the way I learned it.

EliSnow
08-01-2009, 03:42 PM
Congratulations and best of luck.

I too was something of a math whiz back in the day but sadly have forgotten most, if not all, of it.

Aside from simple multiplication, division, addition, subtraction, and percentages, I don't think I use any mathematics on an even semi-regular basis.

99% of the people learning calculus/algebra don't use it regularly after graduation.

But somewhere in law school, I realized that the purpose of taking algebra and calculus courses is not to learn those subjects, but instead to teach your brain a certain way of thinking.

Someone who is trained in those subjects is trained to deal with logic, process and proof. And those mental processes are very helpful in other aspects of life.

SatCam
08-01-2009, 03:49 PM
99% of the people learning calculus/algebra don't use it regularly after graduation.

But somewhere in law school, I realized that the purpose of taking algebra and calculus courses is not to learn those subjects, but instead to teach your brain a certain way of thinking.

Someone who is trained in those subjects is trained to deal with logic, process and proof. And those mental processes are very helpful in other aspects of life.

It's true the more I think of it. The logic and thought process I learned taking math in high school helped me when I was still programming, and vise versa. And then after high school, when I stopped programming and taking math completely, I noticed that I still applied that logic process in life, especially at work, and I benefited because of it

EliSnow
08-01-2009, 04:08 PM
It's true the more I think of it. The logic and thought process I learned taking math in high school helped me when I was still programming, and vise versa. And then after high school, when I stopped programming and taking math completely, I noticed that I still applied that logic process in life, especially at work, and I benefited because of it

It's the same reasoning used to explain why a liberal arts education is useful. It's less about the knowledge learned and more about training your mind to certain types of logic, deduction, learning, etc.

tanless1
08-01-2009, 04:11 PM
algebra is fun, look forward to having more time to play...... gosh darn truck driven, call me snow cone.

Reynolds
08-01-2009, 08:39 PM
Write without negative exponents (3x^-4 y^2)^-3

MacVittie
08-01-2009, 11:09 PM
Write without negative exponents (3x^-4 y^2)^-3

when an exponential term is raised to a power, the exponents are multiplied. For example, we know that 2^3 = 2*2*2. It follows that (2^3)^4 = (2*2*2)*(2*2*2)*(2*2*2)*(2*2*2) = 2^12.

So, we we multiply our exponents, we get:

3^-3 * x^(-4*-3) * y^(2*-3)

which reduces to

(1/27) * (x^12) * (y^-6)

we know that y^-6 = 1/(y^6), so we get

(1/27) * (x^12) * 1/(y^6)

which multiplies out to

(x^12)/(27y^6)

Here's a site I used frequently when I was taking Abstract Algebra:

Math Help Forum (http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/)

hunnerbun
08-02-2009, 06:15 AM
Ow...my head hurts from reading this thread. Non logical, abstract thinking right brain person over here. I am not a A to B to C kind of thinker. Most of the time I could figure out the right answer but it didn't necessarily follow the linear path and I had an especially hard time in math class when we had to show how we arrived at the correct answer. In university I had the hardest time with statistics (took it instead of calculus), I think it was the biggest reason I didn't continue with my degree. I hated math...sorry MacVittie.:sad:

boosterp
08-02-2009, 03:23 PM
Sadly, a lot of what is taught in high school has little application to the real world. I love geometry/trigonometry and find them fascinating, but unless you're an engineer or an architect, you'll never use them beyond high school.

If I designed the curriculum, I would be a stronger emphasis on logic and statistic. Both those are very useful in understanding what is reported to us in the media and can give us a much more clairvoyant view of the world.

I stopped believing in fate once I took advanced statistics in college.

I used statistics when in I was making a career in medical research. I could not pass college algebra now if I tried.

Since I am ambidextrous I feel a little more right brained than left, but through out life I have always questioned the logic and had the ability to formulate an argument.

nate1000
08-03-2009, 05:53 AM
Write without negative exponents (3x^-4 y^2)^-3

1/(3y^2/x^4)^3



Sorry, Mac

Dude!
08-03-2009, 06:06 AM
bunch of geek show offs

El Mudo
08-03-2009, 06:09 AM
The sum of the square roots of any two sides of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the remaining side

http://download.lardlad.com/framegrabs/1F08/024.jpg

MacVittie
08-03-2009, 07:44 AM
1/(3y^2/x^4)^3



Sorry, Mac

Our answers are equivalent, and while I showed work, you simple gave and answer. You would not receive more than 2 out of 8 points on this question.

nate1000
08-03-2009, 08:10 AM
Our answers are equivalent, and while I showed work, you simple gave and answer. You would not receive more than 2 out of 8 points on this question.

You are right- I skipped to the end of your post and didn't see the same # as my answer. Always been my problem with math- I tend to attack the problem before fully reading the question.

NateCantDance
08-03-2009, 08:15 AM
I hate you all.

A John Deere tractor leaves a soybean field heading East at 4mph...

Charlie_Don't_Surf
08-03-2009, 08:31 AM
I still laugh at you lower beings using a base 10 system, when we know base 8 is far more efficient.

JPMNICK
08-03-2009, 08:58 AM
I still laugh at you lower beings using a base 10 system, when we know base 8 is far more efficient.

I use base 1 to make counting even faster

Charlie_Don't_Surf
08-03-2009, 09:02 AM
I use base 1 to make counting even faster

That made me fuccin laugh. Writing must be a breeze, huh? :lol:

weekapaugjz
08-03-2009, 09:21 AM
I still laugh at you lower beings using a base 10 system, when we know base 8 is far more efficient.

i prefer to bump it up to 11.

http://mentalfloss.cachefly.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/SpinalTap_Edith_503.jpg

topless_mike
08-03-2009, 12:47 PM
Simplify and write with positive exponents: http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7683/mth100w4assg3.gif

i never understood the reason for this. it will be of no help to me when i go to the store to buy a loaf of bread and milk.