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CurseoftheBambi
08-04-2009, 11:51 AM
http://www.creators.com/conservative/chuck-norris/what-obama-and-my-wife-have-in-common.html

Dear Mr. President:

First, happy birthday. I do hope today is an enjoyable day for you and your family. Coincidentally, I also will be celebrating this week the birth of someone dear to me, my beloved wife, Gena, whose birthday is Aug. 9.

Speaking of birthdays, I couldn't help but hear and read all over the news this past week about the fresh attention to your constitutional eligibility and natural-born citizen status. I hardly can believe that individuals are offering bounties — one for $100,000 — for any personal witness or sufficient evidence to your American birth.

Believe it or not, I'm not writing you to challenge whether or not you were born in America, though I see nothing wrong with the American public's voicing that constitutionally based grievance with someone in your esteemed position. As one blogger wrote, after all, "We aren't talking about a 12-year-old qualifying to play Little League here." Or as Ronald Reagan once said, "Trust but verify."

I must admit that I find it a bit of a groundless stretch not to believe in the birth announcements in two major Hawaiian newspapers in August 1961, in which Hawaii's Health Department would have been required to post information it received directly from hospitals: "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4." Nevertheless, that proof doesn't answer why you refuse to reveal your original birth certificate and end the growing tides of controversy.

I'm writing you because this is no longer a matter merely about proving you meet a presidential prerequisite in the Constitution. Refusing to post your original birth certificate is an unwise political and leadership decision that is enabling the "birther" controversy. The nation you are called to lead is experiencing a growing swell of conspirators who are convinced that you are covering up something. So why not just prove them wrong and shut them up?

I agree with CNN's Lou Dobbs, who was chastised by his own media outlet for demanding the release of your original birth certificate. Why was that such a bad request? We certainly know why Jon Klein, the president of CNN/U.S., thought it was a bad idea. He previously declared that CNN researchers had determined that your 1961 birth certificate no longer exists.

But Hawaii officials confirmed again last week that they indeed have your original birth certificate on file.
Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, repeated her October 2008 statement that she had seen with her own eyes the "original vital records."

Some claim that even you cannot see or request your own personal birth certificate because Hawaii's disclosure law (Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18) states that "it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record."

But the law further states that Hawaii's Health Department "shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record " (emphasis added).

Isn't categorically satisfying constitutional requirements for a president or answering the First Amendment grievances of hundreds of thousands of Americans or ending a national debate or healing a country's divisions enough "direct and tangible interest"?

Mr. President, as more and more people realize that you are refusing to release your original birth certificate, further questions will fuel the fires of debate or at least hinder the embers from ever being snuffed out. Questions such as, "Does it really contain the Hawaiian physician's name?" "Does it disclose something other than his birthplace that he wishes others not to see?"

Of course, not every U.S. citizen has access to his original birth certificate, but you do, and yours is the only one under debate. As valuable as copies can be, textual critics know that nothing outweighs an original, especially when only it contains the information under question.

Again, why don't you simply request, release and give permission to make public your original birth certificate?

Mr. President, you promised the American people that you are "committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government." In fact, in your July 23 prime-time news conference, you said that your administration has been more transparent than previous administrations: "I think that we have provided much greater transparency than existed prior to our administration coming in."

So again, I ask: Why not live out that transparency promise by posting your original birth certificate and end the division and debate?

Well, I have a birthday to plan, so I had better get going.

Again, happy birthday, Mr. President.

Yours Truly, Chuck Norris

:wacko:

EliSnow
08-04-2009, 11:55 AM
When did Chuck Norris go from good actor to batshit crazy birther?

I am deeply offended that you called that man a good actor.

CurseoftheBambi
08-04-2009, 12:09 PM
LOL well i thought he was good until Walker, Texas Ranger...that like Street Fighter (with Van Damme) was my eye opening moment.

I guess i liked his action movies....i think his characters would kick his ass right now if they were real LOL.:laugh:

EliSnow
08-04-2009, 12:14 PM
LOL well i thought he was good until Walker, Texas Ranger...that like Street Fighter (with Van Damme) was my eye opening moment.

I guess i liked his action movies....i think his characters would kick his ass right now if they were real LOL.:laugh:


I never thought he was a good actor. He was decent movie star, but his acting was never that good.

Now as for his craziness, since the election campaign of 2008 when he supported Huckabee, I've seen more and more instances that he's very conservative. One of his quotes was that this country was created as religious country and should not be sectarian. So he wants the separation of church and state on the christian side to be eliminated.

Misteriosa
08-04-2009, 12:15 PM
when i saw that article, it made me think that if he capable of a birther, then maybe couldnt gargle peanut butter... :glurps:

EliSnow
08-04-2009, 12:27 PM
Here's more of Chuck Norris political views. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78240&highlight=chuck+norris)

CurseoftheBambi
08-04-2009, 12:31 PM
oh you misunderstand me...when i say good actor i meant he had me suspend my disbelief in his roles. I didn't mean he's oscar quality.

And as for his views....sings the batshit crazy song...which i need to create or find on line somewhere for a youtube video, i need to make full of these batshit crazy folk.

epo
08-04-2009, 02:01 PM
I love the birther movement. It identifies people who are batshit insane for me.

Chuck Norris, check.
Lou Dobbs, check.

Any others?

Bob Impact
08-04-2009, 02:05 PM
I love the birther movement. It identifies people who are batshit insane for me.

Chuck Norris, check.
Lou Dobbs, check.

Any others?

I never realized it before, but this is the same reason i like it.


Also, Scientology.

SatCam
08-04-2009, 02:30 PM
Who ever started that "Chuck Norris" meme and made him feel relevant again is the one I blame

A.J.
08-05-2009, 04:34 AM
The man was Missing In Action for a long time. It stands to reason he'd go a little cuckoo.

high fly
08-05-2009, 03:01 PM
Whaya think, guys,




CHUCK NORRIS / LYNDON LAROUCHE IN '012!

STC-Dub
08-05-2009, 07:42 PM
Norris is a good actor, compared to Steven Segal but not by any other criteria.

foodcourtdruide
08-06-2009, 05:13 AM
I never realized it before, but this is the same reason i like it.


Also, Scientology.

What's so crazy about scientology compared to any other religion?

instrument
08-06-2009, 05:41 AM
Other religions at least don't mention aliens and volcanoes like a indiana jones script.

Though according to dave jesus sounds a lot like david blaine.

topless_mike
08-06-2009, 06:28 AM
Other religions at least don't mention aliens and volcanoes like a indiana jones script.


maybe with all the ufo secrets being de-classified, scientology is right.
:glurps:

Devo37
08-06-2009, 06:51 AM
where's the batsh!t crazy in his letter??

it's a good question: if obama can shut down the 'birthers' by releasing his birth certificate, why not just do it?

CurseoftheBambi
08-10-2009, 01:26 PM
cause he has so that puts u on the batshit crazy list

epo
08-10-2009, 01:49 PM
where's the batsh!t crazy in his letter??

it's a good question: if obama can shut down the 'birthers' by releasing his birth certificate, why not just do it?

He's released the birth certificate a number of times. Its like arguing with children.

Charlie_Don't_Surf
08-10-2009, 02:15 PM
I disagree on one of the op's points. Good Actor?
Explain.

CurseoftheBambi
08-10-2009, 03:35 PM
hey did u see 'good guys wear black' that was a good movie with some good acting...not oscar but for what it was made u forget u were watching a movie till the credits went up

TheMojoPin
08-10-2009, 03:44 PM
where's the batsh!t crazy in his letter??

it's a good question: if obama can shut down the 'birthers' by releasing his birth certificate, why not just do it?

Because you don't grant the crazies legitimacy by acting like you have to cater to their demands.

TripleSkeet
08-10-2009, 04:03 PM
Because you don't grant the crazies legitimacy by acting like you have to cater to their demands.

Exactly.

Bob Impact
08-10-2009, 04:04 PM
Because you don't grant the crazies legitimacy by acting like you have to cater to their demands.

^-This

sailor
08-10-2009, 04:16 PM
Because you don't grant the crazies legitimacy by acting like you have to cater to their demands.

i disagree. it's like the 9/11 conspiracy loons. do you ignore them? no, you show them to be the idiots they are.

TripleSkeet
08-10-2009, 04:19 PM
i disagree. it's like the 9/11 conspiracy loons. do you ignore them? no, you show them to be the idiots they are.

No. You ignore them.

You act like they dont even exist. Because when you address an asshole, no matter how dumb they may sound, you are showing others that their comments are worth noticing. And they arent.

joeybadass
08-10-2009, 04:20 PM
chuck norris fucking rules!

Bob Impact
08-10-2009, 04:21 PM
i disagree. it's like the 9/11 conspiracy loons. do you ignore them? no, you show them to be the idiots they are.

Not if you're the president you don't. You don't give the crazies credence and you don't poke your nose into local matters.


Waitaminute...

Charlie_Don't_Surf
08-10-2009, 04:22 PM
chuck norris fucking rules!

There's a video of him sparring with Bruce Lee, I highly recommend. It would change your opinion of him so quickly to see him as someone's bitch.

TheMojoPin
08-10-2009, 04:44 PM
i disagree. it's like the 9/11 conspiracy loons. do you ignore them? no, you show them to be the idiots they are.

That's fine if other citizens do that but the President should not stoop to that level. There's no need to.

angrymissy
08-10-2009, 04:47 PM
He nails it.

"Dummies talking to other dummies"

"Lou Dobbs said a lot of people are asking questions about the birth certificates" "Yes, the same people who ask where the sun goes at night"

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sailor
08-10-2009, 10:29 PM
Not if you're the president you don't. You don't give the crazies credence and you don't poke your nose into local matters.


Waitaminute...

That's fine if other citizens do that but the President should not stoop to that level. There's no need to.

i can see that. then again it would be his press secretary or such responding and not the president directly.

A.J.
08-11-2009, 03:27 AM
Why is nobody asking these dullards why this wasn't an issue when he ran for the Senate?

sailor
08-11-2009, 06:36 AM
Why is nobody asking these dullards why this wasn't an issue when he ran for the Senate?

in illinois? ha!

TheMojoPin
08-11-2009, 11:31 AM
i can see that. then again it would be his press secretary or such responding and not the president directly.

That's the same thing. The White House as an entity, and really any other significant elected official, should not dignify them with a response.

topless_mike
08-11-2009, 11:44 AM
Why is nobody asking these dullards why this wasn't an issue when he ran for the Senate?

because for any other seat, there are less restrictions, if i am correct. arnold, not born here, is the gov of california.

my only question is that if he's legit, why was his birth certificate sealed in court?
why go through those steps if there is no reason to.

CurseoftheBambi
08-11-2009, 11:56 AM
was it really sealed in court or is that more propaganda from the birthers?

underdog
08-11-2009, 12:05 PM
was it really sealed in court or is that more propaganda from the birthers?

It's just propaganda (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp).

This is the easiest conspiracy to bust, but why do research when you can just say something you heard some other person say on foxnews?

TheMojoPin
08-11-2009, 12:23 PM
It's just propaganda (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp).

This is the easiest conspiracy to bust, but why do research when you can just say something you heard some other person say on foxnews?

It's the American way.

topless_mike
08-11-2009, 12:36 PM
It's just propaganda (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp).

This is the easiest conspiracy to bust, but why do research when you can just say something you heard some other person say on foxnews?

i would rather not spend my time following the drama.
and while fox and the right keep hammering, i havent seen cnn or the rest of the news clans really rebutting it. i've seen the copy of it; it looks very similiar to my own.

i guess my thing is why was there all this hubub from the beginning? i never remember any other president going through this. this should have been squashed from day one, and never have been an issue. if he's legit, he's legit. thats it. hate him or love him, he is your president and should be addressed accordingly.

underdog
08-11-2009, 12:38 PM
It's the American way.

I'm currently trying to figure out how to get on one of those death squads. The tv told me they exist, so they must.

underdog
08-11-2009, 12:39 PM
i guess my thing is why was there all this hubub from the beginning? i never remember any other president going through this. this should have been squashed from day one, and never have been an issue. if he's legit, he's legit. thats it. hate him or love him, he is your president and should be addressed accordingly.

Because he's black and a democrat. If there's one thing the right excels at, its fear mongering.

Crispy123
08-11-2009, 12:41 PM
He is Mulsim and was born in Kenya. He is trying to spread the socialism of Iran to the west and is setting up death panels for white people and mexicans are going to be treated at any hospital in America. The man is the Antichrist and he wants to turn the world into a fascist satanic hell hole!

CurseoftheBambi
08-11-2009, 12:41 PM
i guess my thing is why was there all this hubub from the beginning? i never remember any other president going through this.

Its because ...

Old Grady: The President is as *Bell ring*

Old Grady: No Goddamnit the President is a *bell Ring*

Understand now?

Underdog, you can probably get in on the death squads at the community youth center you know like that guy in V (the mini series) who didn't have any job prospects till the aliens gave him one and he became arrogant enough to turn in his relatives to the ALiens and had some doctor lick his shoes. Then he found out how the aliens were eating people and got eaten. Wait this is supposed to be encouragement...never mind LOL.

(ps i know you dont really want to join if that wasnt clear)

IMSlacker
08-11-2009, 12:41 PM
I'm currently trying to figure out how to get on one of those death squads. The tv told me they exist, so they must.

They're death panels. Death squads don't start until phase 2.

underdog
08-11-2009, 02:53 PM
They're death panels. Death squads don't start until phase 2.

Oh shit, did I accidentally release part of our plan?

Contra
08-11-2009, 09:00 PM
Oh shit, did I accidentally release part of our plan?

http://www.netzeitung.de/img/0088/166288.jpg