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LordJezo
08-07-2009, 07:55 AM
White House has set up a site where you can report directly to Obama if people talk bad about Obamacare:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/

If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.

Now people need to live in fear about sending emails to one another, if it goes against the state it can be forwarded right to the Whitehouse for investigation.

Now people will need to have secret meetings just to talk about Obama in any way but public praise. Totalitarian government in the USA has never been worse than it is right now. This is pretty much thought police at this point. Think badly and say something against the administration? You'll be put on their list for reprogramming. The next step with an email address for forwarded messages would be the same thing but for video and audio recordings of your neighbors and 'friends'.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 07:57 AM
Please wipe down the seat when you're through. And we're out of soap.

underdog
08-07-2009, 07:57 AM
I sent this post to the Whitehouse.

EliSnow
08-07-2009, 07:58 AM
Wow, I bet no one was able to work out at the gym after talking about this.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 08:00 AM
There is a white Nissan in the parking lot with its lights on. There is white Nissan in the parking lot with its lights on.

LordJezo
08-07-2009, 08:01 AM
I sent this post to the Whitehouse.

That's the fear out there, if anyone ever talks bad about Obama in any way it will be sent to the white house for review.

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The protests are starting. It's going to get worse and worse the more power Obama is given.

IMSlacker
08-07-2009, 08:02 AM
I sent this post to the Whitehouse.

Me too, this LordJezo is making me doubt Obama's greatness. A full investigation is long overdue.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 08:02 AM
Clean out locker 27. Carl hasn't paid his dues in months.

LordJezo
08-07-2009, 08:05 AM
This thread once again shows the liberal bias against free thought. Now that you can all easily report anyone on the right with a simple click of a button snitching will be in full force against all non hardline Democrats.

The great purge is coming.

EliSnow
08-07-2009, 08:05 AM
"The Jezo Files: The Fear Is Out There"

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 08:05 AM
Take out the garbage. The can in the ladies room is overflowing.

brettmojo
08-07-2009, 08:06 AM
The great purge is coming.
Nah it's just the Taco Bell I ate last night.

IMSlacker
08-07-2009, 08:06 AM
This thread once again shows the liberal bias against free thought. Now that you can all easily report anyone on the right with a simple click of a button snitching will be in full force against all non hardline Democrats.

The great purge is coming.

It wasn't a simple click of a button until you posted the link. Thanks!

mikeyboy
08-07-2009, 08:07 AM
Can someone spot me?

Misteriosa
08-07-2009, 08:08 AM
please rerack your weights when youre done with them.

underdog
08-07-2009, 08:08 AM
This thread once again shows the liberal bias against free thought. Now that you can all easily report anyone on the right with a simple click of a button snitching will be in full force against all non hardline Democrats.

The great purge is coming.

What about the government's free thought in wanting to know what your free thought is?

I also don't like your tone in this post, so I also reported it.

underdog
08-07-2009, 08:08 AM
That's the fear out there, if anyone ever talks bad about Obama in any way it will be sent to the white house for review.

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The protests are starting. It's going to get worse and worse the more power Obama is given.

I also reported this post.

The Jays
08-07-2009, 08:09 AM
This is the dumbest fucking jump-to-conclusions I have ever fucking read. What is sad is that there are people out there who think exactly this way. It's a fucking email to forward retarded emails that get started by people by Jezo. How the fuck is this the scariest time in this country? Obama's the fucking problem, while we let the banks run away with our money. I hate this fucking country because of these fucking retards.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 08:09 AM
Ease up on the chlorine in the pool... the seniors have been complaining.

EliSnow
08-07-2009, 08:13 AM
Come on, two more reps!!

angrymissy
08-07-2009, 08:20 AM
I can't wait until the thought police snatches Jezo at the gym.

All a part of our evil liberal master plan.

Dude!
08-07-2009, 08:24 AM
This is the dumbest fucking jump-to-conclusions I have ever fucking read. What is sad is that there are people out there who think exactly this way. It's a fucking email to forward retarded emails that get started by people by Jezo. How the fuck is this the scariest time in this country? Obama's the fucking problem, while we let the banks run away with our money. I hate this fucking country because of these fucking retards.

you are a very angry young man

besides, obama gave the banks
the money they ran away with!

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 08:25 AM
Monday: Jivamukti Yoga
Tuesday: Open Flow Yoga
Wednesday: All Levels Yoga
Thursday: Vinyasa Yoga
Friday: Yin Yoga
Saturday: Flea Market
Sunday: Closed for bleaching

IMSlacker
08-07-2009, 08:25 AM
Spinning class starts in 10 minutes everybody!

Misteriosa
08-07-2009, 08:25 AM
Monday: Jivamukti Yoga
Tuesday: Open Flow Yoga
Wednesday: All Levels Yoga
Thursday: Vinyasa Yoga
Friday: Yin Yoga
Saturday: Flea Market
Sunday: Closed for bleaching

no hatha yoga? this gym fucking blows... :dry:

Contra
08-07-2009, 08:27 AM
They'll never take Jezo alive, he'll go out Waco style! Well I hope so anyway.

EliSnow
08-07-2009, 08:28 AM
Those are some killer abs. Do you do crunches or planks?

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 08:28 AM
no hatha yoga? this gym fucking blows... :dry:

You have no idea how true that is.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 08:29 AM
Now Hiring:

Fitness Floor Staff

Aerobic Group Instructors

TripleSkeet
08-07-2009, 09:02 AM
This thread once again shows the liberal bias against free thought. Now that you can all easily report anyone on the right with a simple click of a button snitching will be in full force against all non hardline Democrats.

The great purge is coming.

Your gimmick is so old I can now tell the threads youve started without even looking.

Aggie
08-07-2009, 09:03 AM
Your gimmick is so old I can now tell the threads youve started without even looking.

And no one seriously responds.

Now let's hit the sauna!

EliSnow
08-07-2009, 09:06 AM
Now let's hit the sauna!

The sauna is closed for the next 20 minutes.

We're mopping ... I mean cleaning it up.

Thanks for your patience.

smiler grogan
08-07-2009, 09:29 AM
That wasn't jezo who shot up that gym recently?

LordJezo
08-07-2009, 09:36 AM
Got back from the gym. The general feel to this is that it will eventually lead to a new form of Mccarthyism. The email address will be set to something like "Send us the names of 4 republicans you know and we'll let you go"

The one dude at the gym said they are going to need a lot of people to keep track of him then went into the showers and started singing songs, talking about how he spoke bad of healthcare.

it's coming. You guys are safe for now because you all kiss the ground that Obama walks on, but there is a growing part of the American public who wants this socialist hard leftist out of office before we become any more like North Korea than we already are.

The Jays
08-07-2009, 09:37 AM
you are a very angry young man

besides, obama gave the banks
the money they ran away with!

Um, no he didn't. Bush did.

So, bzzz, wrong. Just like the rest of the right.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 09:39 AM
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IMSlacker
08-07-2009, 09:40 AM
I'm glad I have a lot of Republicans' email addresses. I'm all set.

EliSnow
08-07-2009, 09:43 AM
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underdog
08-07-2009, 09:45 AM
Got back from the gym. The general feel to this is that it will eventually lead to a new form of Mccarthyism. The email address will be set to something like "Send us the names of 4 republicans you know and we'll let you go"

The one dude at the gym said they are going to need a lot of people to keep track of him then went into the showers and started singing songs, talking about how he spoke bad of healthcare.

it's coming. You guys are safe for now because you all kiss the ground that Obama walks on, but there is a growing part of the American public who wants this socialist hard leftist out of office before we become any more like North Korea than we already are.

Reported.

LordJezo
08-07-2009, 09:45 AM
It's being called the White House enemy list now:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/state/stories/DN-cornynflag_06nat.ART.State.Edition1.4bb4d44.html

Hopefully the backlash for this will grow even larger.


http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss85/Cincy912/Flag%20Me/zorback.jpg

underdog
08-07-2009, 09:47 AM
It's being called the White House enemy list now:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/state/stories/DN-cornynflag_06nat.ART.State.Edition1.4bb4d44.html

Hopefully the backlash for this will grow even larger.


http://s564.photobucket.com/albums/ss85/Cincy912/Flag%20Me/

Reported this one.

EliSnow
08-07-2009, 09:47 AM
Speaking of growing larger, unless you renew your gym membership for another year, your waistline will definitely grow larger!

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 09:47 AM
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LordJezo
08-07-2009, 09:51 AM
Twitter is discussing it as well: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23flagme

topless_mike
08-07-2009, 09:56 AM
please rerack your weights when youre done with them.

you said rack.
he he he

Crispy123
08-07-2009, 09:56 AM
Im reporting all you gym rats to another whitehouse email, fag@whitehouse.gov. Its now being called the whitehouse "I have a secret" list. continue going to the locker room at your own risk!

underdog
08-07-2009, 09:57 AM
Twitter is discussing it as well: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23flagme

I reported this and the twitter post.

yojimbo7248
08-07-2009, 10:00 AM
It's being called the White House enemy list now:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/state/stories/DN-cornynflag_06nat.ART.State.Edition1.4bb4d44.html

Hopefully the backlash for this will grow even larger.


http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss85/Cincy912/Flag%20Me/zorback.jpg

LZ, is that a picture of you?

LordJezo
08-07-2009, 10:01 AM
LZ, is that a picture of you?

Naa.. I'm sexier.

IMSlacker
08-07-2009, 10:02 AM
Naa.. I'm sexier.

Damn. I'll have to send a correction.

Aggie
08-07-2009, 10:17 AM
LZ, is that a picture of you?

This is him.

http://www.pop-culture.us/Annual/images/unabomber.jpg

keithy_19
08-07-2009, 11:04 AM
So no one finds this to be another step towards a 1984 type scenario?

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 11:05 AM
ADULT SWIM ONLY! All children out of the pool!

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 11:11 AM
So no one finds this to be another step towards a 1984 type scenario?

No. Forwarding e-mails isn't some new, nefarious technology that Obama and co. created and are only letting liberals use. Jezo has to spin this like it's impossible for conservatives to send the same kind of things to their reps in regards to the issues that they are pushing to make it one of his fake conspiracy issues.

The non-insane response to this is, "oh, they want to see what's being said so they can spefically address any of these points if they're not obviously batshit retarded/crazy to help push through health care reform since it's the crux of their agenda right now." If anyone legitimately thinks the government is being provided with information they couldn't get already through this then they are so naive they might as well be tiny, tiny babies fresh out of the verginer.

And please towel down the equipment after you use it.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 11:12 AM
Anyone have an extra weight belt?

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 11:15 AM
Jimmy doesn't appreciate all the crazy conspiracy talk while Jimmy's working his delts.

keithy_19
08-07-2009, 11:48 AM
If the government already knows then why bother asking? It just kind of sounds like Mcarthyism to me.

IMSlacker
08-07-2009, 11:49 AM
If the government already knows then why bother asking? It just kind of sounds like Mcarthyism to me.

Don't make underdog report you.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 11:52 AM
Members and guests are required to shower prior to using the pool. Proper swimming suits are required. NO cutoffs are permitted and caps are required if hair is longer than shoulder length.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 11:53 AM
Sneakers and workout clothes are required in the fitness center and gymnasium.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 11:53 AM
Failure to comply with these rules and guidelines, or behave in an appropriate manner, may result in the suspension of membership privileges or the expulsion of the individual as per the association policy.

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 11:54 AM
If the government already knows then why bother asking? It just kind of sounds like Mcarthyism to me.

Because it's a way for people to feel involved in a major policy push and "government" in general. This White House and the Democrats as a whole have been smartly using the internet in the last couple of years to attempt to get people involved with or at least pay more attention to politics. This is simply another part of that. Nobody has to "dime anyone else out:" why not just copy and paste the forward or article or whatever sans personal information? Nowhere is the White House demanding or asking people to "report" anyone else.

And please, explain how this feels like McCarthyism. I can only assume you're talking about people then ratting out other people (usually unjustly or based on heresay) to get focus shifted off of them. How does that apply here? Nothing is being offered. Nobody has to do this. That's a completely disingenous and overractionary take on something so inconsequential.

keithy_19
08-07-2009, 11:57 AM
Because it's a way for people to feel involved in a major policy push and "government" in general. This White House and the Democrats as a whole have been smartly using the internet in the last couple of years to attempt to get people involved with or at least pay more attention to politics. This is simply another part of that. Nobody has to "dime anyone else out:" why not just copy and paste the forward or article or whatever sans personal information? Nowhere is the White House demanding or asking people to "report" anyone else.

And please, explain how this feels like McCarthyism. I can only assume you're talking about people then ratting out other people (usually unjustly or based on heresay) to get focus shifted off of them. How does that apply here? Nothing is being offered. Nobody has to do this. That's a completely disingenous and overractionary take on something so inconsequential.

It just feels like the government is telling you to tell them what people are saying who disagree with them. It probably is just trying to get people to feel like they're doing something, but it's just dumb in my opinion.

underdog
08-07-2009, 11:58 AM
Don't make underdog report you.

Too late.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 11:59 AM
The use of profanity, alcohol, tobacco, narcotics inside and on the grounds of the gym are strictly prohibited.

IMSlacker
08-07-2009, 12:03 PM
Too late.

Poor keithy. I think if you just give them the names of 4-5 of your co-conspirators you can avoid prison time.

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 12:03 PM
It just feels like the government is telling you to tell them what people are saying who disagree with them.

It only "feels" like that because you want it to. Common sense clearly shows that it's not.

It probably is just trying to get people to feel like they're doing something, but it's just dumb in my opinion.

Again, because there's likely nothing this administration can do that won't seem dumb to you. You've shown time and time again you're willing to at least consider almost every extremist, fringe and conspiracy theory levelled at it that's posted here no matter how obviously ridiculous they are.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 12:16 PM
The gym will be closing early today due to a leaky ceiling and stupidity.

Donnie Iris
08-07-2009, 12:21 PM
Clearly not a Big Brother scenario.


However, these repeated posts alluding to the gym are for some reason rubbing me the wrong way. First, because I don't really get it and secondly because of its redundancy.

Does this guy work at a gym? Is it a commentary on the recent shootings? Either way, the humor escapes me.

IMSlacker
08-07-2009, 12:27 PM
Clearly not a Big Brother scenario.


However, these repeated posts alluding to the gym are for some reason rubbing me the wrong way. First, because I don't really get it and secondly because of its redundancy.

Does this guy work at a gym? Is it a commentary on the recent shootings? Either way, the humor escapes me.

He often references conversations at the gym as the origin of his conspiracy theories:

Got back from the gym. The general feel to this is that it will eventually lead to a new form of Mccarthyism. The email address will be set to something like "Send us the names of 4 republicans you know and we'll let you go"

The one dude at the gym said they are going to need a lot of people to keep track of him then went into the showers and started singing songs, talking about how he spoke bad of healthcare.

it's coming. You guys are safe for now because you all kiss the ground that Obama walks on, but there is a growing part of the American public who wants this socialist hard leftist out of office before we become any more like North Korea than we already are.

Donnie Iris
08-07-2009, 12:28 PM
He often references conversations at the gym as the origin of his conspiracy theories:

I stand corrected.

That's fucking funny.

IMSlacker
08-07-2009, 12:30 PM
I stand corrected.

That's fucking funny.

Good. We'd hate to have to report you too.

TripleSkeet
08-07-2009, 12:38 PM
It's being called the White House enemy list now:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/state/stories/DN-cornynflag_06nat.ART.State.Edition1.4bb4d44.html

Hopefully the backlash for this will grow even larger.


http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss85/Cincy912/Flag%20Me/zorback.jpg

Is that your spotter?

sailor
08-07-2009, 01:52 PM
seriously, was anyone surprised he was doing cocaine?

disneyspy
08-07-2009, 01:56 PM
seriously, was anyone surprised he was doing cocaine?

i was,that homo that said he did it with him seemed to just want attention

The Jays
08-07-2009, 01:58 PM
So no one finds this to be another step towards a 1984 type scenario?

It's a fucking email address.

epo
08-07-2009, 02:04 PM
If the government already knows then why bother asking? It just kind of sounds like Mcarthyism to me.

That's just insanity.

underdog
08-07-2009, 02:33 PM
That's just insanity.

No, This is Sparta.

http://www.cis.rit.edu/~gaf1551/Misc/damme300.gif

The Jays
08-07-2009, 02:57 PM
If the government already knows then why bother asking? It just kind of sounds like Mcarthyism to me.

Do you have an understanding was what McCarthyism is? It's about accusing people of being disloyal to the country and treasonous without having any evidence to back it up. What you're saying is that by forwarding the piece of shit emails that tell people how the government will kill their grandparents, raise your taxes, and force you to rationed healthcare, by forwarding spam like that to the email address they've set up just so they can have an understanding of the wacky shit that's being spread out there and can clear up the misinformation, somehow you think that's McCarthyism?

If you believe that, I'm sure you'll love this. (http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/rush-limbuagh-sez-democratic-party-are)

Limbaugh: It's right out of Adolf Hitler's playbook. Now, what are the similarities between the Democrat Party today and the Nazi Party in Germany? Well, the Nazis were against big business. They hated big business and of course we all know that they were opposed to Jewish capitalism. They were insanely, irrationally against pollution. They were for two years mandatory voluntary service to Germany. They had a whole bunch of make-work projects to keep people working, one of which was the Autobahn. They were against cruelty and vivisection of animals, but in the radical sense of devaluing human life, they banned smoking. They were totally against that. They were for abortion and euthanasia of the undesirables, as we all know, and they were for cradle-to-grave nationalized healthcare.

You know, when Bush was in office, I didn't like all the "Bush = Nazi" shit, I thought that wa s a bit extreme, and it came from the extreme left. But, when the shoe's on the other foot, the main stream right has no problem spouting crazy shit like Democrats are Nazis and having an email to send spam to is considered McCarthyism (glossing over the fact that McCarthy himself was a Republican).

IMSlacker
08-07-2009, 03:06 PM
seriously, was anyone surprised he was doing cocaine?

Jezo? No, not surprised at all.

ImNotGvac
08-07-2009, 04:08 PM
Now people will need to have secret meetings just to talk about Obama in any way but public praise. Totalitarian government in the USA has never been worse than it is right now. This is pretty much thought police at this point. Think badly and say something against the administration? You'll be put on their list for reprogramming. The next step with an email address for forwarded messages would be the same thing but for video and audio recordings of your neighbors and 'friends'.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_P8n0J5nF3I0/Skv0P9HfIJI/AAAAAAAAAso/7h1RPLK6cQ0/s400/tin-foil-hat.jpg

LordJezo
08-07-2009, 04:13 PM
Do you have an understanding was what McCarthyism is? It's about accusing people of being disloyal to the country and treasonous without having any evidence to back it up.

How is sending messages straight to the White House about your friends and family being disloyal to the Obama way any different? Back then it was that people were going to go communist, now it's been seen as just as bad that you are a conservative or don't want a socalized medical system in this country. People can now send posts like these, AIM logs, blog entries, anything that could be seen as speaking bad again His High Ruler Obama and have the government come in and investigate them.

Gvac
08-07-2009, 04:14 PM
I'm with Jezo on this one.

Just IMAGINE if Bush had done this.

Don't fucking lie.

BE HONEST.

Every one of you would be going nuts and would attack him.

Just because it's "your guy" doing it doesn't make it any less wrong.

Or disgusting.

smiler grogan
08-07-2009, 04:19 PM
I'm with Jezo on this one.

Just IMAGINE if Bush had done this.

Don't fucking lie.

BE HONEST.

Every one of you would be going nuts and would attack him.

Just because it's "your guy" doing it doesn't make it any less wrong.

Or disgusting.

copied and sent!

underdog
08-07-2009, 04:26 PM
How is sending messages straight to the White House about your friends and family being disloyal to the Obama way any different? Back then it was that people were going to go communist, now it's been seen as just as bad that you are a conservative or don't want a socalized medical system in this country. People can now send posts like these, AIM logs, blog entries, anything that could be seen as speaking bad again His High Ruler Obama and have the government come in and investigate them.

I'm with Jezo on this one.

Just IMAGINE if Bush had done this.

Don't fucking lie.

BE HONEST.

Every one of you would be going nuts and would attack him.

Just because it's "your guy" doing it doesn't make it any less wrong.

Or disgusting.

Both reported.

The Jays
08-07-2009, 04:27 PM
How is sending messages straight to the White House about your friends and family being disloyal to the Obama way any different? Back then it was that people were going to go communist, now it's been seen as just as bad that you are a conservative or don't want a socalized medical system in this country. People can now send posts like these, AIM logs, blog entries, anything that could be seen as speaking bad again His High Ruler Obama and have the government come in and investigate them.

How the fuck is it about being disloyal?? It's about the body of the message, the retarded fucking scare tactic conspiracy bullshit, not about your fucking crazy uncle or your neighbor two doors down. They don't give a shit about who is sending them. They just want to know what kind of crazy conspiracy bullshit they are up against so that they can debunk the fucking crazy conspiracies that gyms all across the fucking country are spreading to their spin classes and yoga instructors. Stop going to the fucking extreme on every fucking little thing.

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 04:41 PM
I'm with Jezo on this one.

Just IMAGINE if Bush had done this.

Don't fucking lie.

BE HONEST.

Every one of you would be going nuts and would attack him.

Just because it's "your guy" doing it doesn't make it any less wrong.

Or disgusting.

The Bush administration wouldn't have done this because they made next to no attempts to establish such communication channels with their constituents (tenuous as this one is) and because they never tried to push an agenda with the scope and impact of health care reform. If you're asking hypothetically whether or not the Bush administration would have done something like this with the similar context of the Obama administration, well, that would completely change the face of the Bush administration as compared to what we actually saw. I know all you want are B&W answers and oversimplifications but the long and short of it is that one of the main issues many had with the Bush administration is that they never would have done something like this in the wake of the initiative that is being proposed.

Any similar criticism of Bush doing something like this a la the conspiracy shit we're seeing here would have stayed on the fringe because it's so laughably absurd and anyone who can zap two brain cells together sees that's the case.

Dude!
08-07-2009, 04:44 PM
I know all you want are B&W answers and oversimplifications but the long and short of it is that one of the main issues many had with the Bush administration is that they never would have done something like this in the wake of the initiative that is being proposed.

that sentence sounds like
it was written while on
a short yellow bus

Gvac
08-07-2009, 04:45 PM
The Bush administration wouldn't have done this because they made next to no attempts to establish such communication channels with their constituents (tenuous as this one is) and because they never tried to push an agenda with the scope and impact of health care reform. If you're asking hypothetically whether or not the Bush administration would have done something like this with the similar context of the Obama administration, well, that would completely change the face of the Bush administration as compared to what we actually saw. I know all you want are B&W answers and oversimplifications but the long and short of it is that one of the main issues many had with the Bush administration is that they never would have done something like this in the wake of the initiative that is being proposed.

Any similar criticism of Bush doing something like this a la the conspiracy shit we're seeing here would have stayed on the fringe because it's so laughably absurd and anyone who can zap two brain cells together sees that's the case.


If Bush said to email the White House if you heard anyone saying anything about the Patriot Act that you thought might not be true you would have crucified him.

Stop being so one sided.

You're smarter than that.

Take off the blinders, son.

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 04:50 PM
If Bush said to email the White House if you heard anyone saying anything about the Patriot Act that you thought might not be true you would have crucified him.

Stop being so one sided.

You're smarter than that.

Take off the blinders, son.

It's a completely false comparison to compare the Patriot Act to health care reform. For one, nobody is going to be stupid enough to propose anything along these lines with something along the lines of the Patriot Act. That would be stupid and political suicide. Besides, Bush didn't have to do anything along the lines of your scenario to get people ill at ease because he actually fucking passed the fucking PATRIOT ACT itself which was infinitely closer to the end of days nightmare people are proposing over an e-mail link. Jesus Christ.

There's no need for "blinders" because any hysterical and fringe criticism of the Bush White House doing something like this in the context of how we're seeing it now would be just as ridiculous.

The White House isn't asking or telling anyone to do what you described above. It's incredibly telling that people trying to demonize this have to spin it so much to do so. It's a meaningless interactive PR move that's being added to the already enormous pile of things that have been blown up to signal the death of the United States, democracy, capitalism, liberty, bald eagles, Mt. Vernon, the Vietnam Memorial, pickup trucks and Ol' Faithful.

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 04:50 PM
that sentence sounds like
it was written while on
a short yellow bus

Hey, Gaspy McFatfuck....shut up.

Dude!
08-07-2009, 04:52 PM
Hey, Gaspy McFatfuck....shut up.

call me McSkinnyfuck
cause that's what i am
i'll never be a McFatfuck

The Jays
08-07-2009, 04:53 PM
The Patriot Act and health care reform are not on the same level. There was no debate on the Patriot Act. The other side wasn't putting false information out there in order to scare people into telling their congressmen to vote nay. The other side wasn't having people disrupt town hall debates armed with said false information.

Gvac
08-07-2009, 04:53 PM
Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.

They're not asking anyone to do just that?

Really?

Sounds like it to me.

The Jays
08-07-2009, 04:56 PM
That doesn't sound like "please report everyone who is disloyal." It's sounds like "please tell us the misinformation you get."

Gvac
08-07-2009, 04:58 PM
That doesn't sound like "please report everyone who is disloyal." It's sounds like "please tell us the misinformation you get."

I didn't say it was "report everyone who is disloyal."

I said imagine if Bush had said to email the White House if they saw anything they thought might not be true about the Patriot Act.

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 04:59 PM
They're not asking anyone to do just that?

Really?

Sounds like it to me.

Of course it does.

It couldn't possibly have anything to do with gathering talking points to address that are influencing people's support or opposition to health care reform. It couldn't possibly be an information service where people's questions and concerns based on things they hear regarding health care reform can be addressed or answered. Nope, those things are simply too fantastic and outrageous to be real.

Gvac
08-07-2009, 04:59 PM
Of course it does.

It couldn't possibly have anything to do with gathering talking points to address that are influencing people's support or opposition to health care reform. It couldn't possibly be an information service where people's questions and concerns based on things they hear regarding health care reform can be addressed or answered. Nope, those things are simply too fantastic and outrageous to be real.

Again, look at my example.

Suppose Bush thought there was a lot of false information out there about the Patriot Act and wanted to set the record straight and "open up a line of communication" with people?

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 05:00 PM
I didn't say it was "report everyone who is disloyal."

I said imagine if Bush had said to email the White House if they saw anything they thought might not be true about the Patriot Act.

Which would be insane because it would be tied into the Patriot Act.

Do you really not see any difference between the context of that and health care reform?

The Patriot Act wasn't something that needed public and political support to be created.

The Jays
08-07-2009, 05:04 PM
I can't suppose it, because the scenario never happened. In 2001, we were sheep. We were scared shitless. There was no debate on the Patriot Act. Bush would have never proposed the email address, because dumbasses would have flooded it with accusations of every brown person they saw with a backpack as being a potential terrorist.

This is about letting the White House know about what kind of bullshit is being spread on the barren minds of American citizens.

epo
08-07-2009, 05:41 PM
Gvac you are dead wrong on a number of angles here:

1. The White House is talking about misinformation, not about "evildoers".
2. Bush's White House did just what you are talking about. After 9/11 remember when the federal government was encouraging people to report regular people for "suspicious" behavior? Or how soon you forget?
3. You bitch and moan about corporate interests, then you finally get a White House that sorta has a set of balls fighting corporate interests and they are cocksuckers in your eyes.

I'll never understand your politics.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 06:06 PM
What the fuck! I go away to pick up some new plastic weights for the kids and this shit is going on at my gym! Guys' please. Wear a towel when you're shaving! Primates!

Gvac
08-07-2009, 06:09 PM
Gvac you are dead wrong on a number of angles here:

1. The White House is talking about misinformation, not about "evildoers".
2. Bush's White House did just what you are talking about. After 9/11 remember when the federal government was encouraging people to report regular people for "suspicious" behavior? Or how soon you forget?
3. You bitch and moan about corporate interests, then you finally get a White House that sorta has a set of balls fighting corporate interests and they are cocksuckers in your eyes.

I'll never understand your politics.

Again, you're missing my point.

You're adding your slant, not what the facts are.

The White House said to report anything you feel is misinformation so they could set the record straight.

I said what if Bush said to email him if you saw "misinformation" about the Patriot Act.

I said NOTHING about reporting "evildoers."

Please try to be unbiased.

I know it's difficult, but try.

If the Patriot Act example is too difficult, pick another one.

I'm just saying imagine a President on the "other side" asked people to email him if they saw something contrary to what he was selling.

epo
08-07-2009, 06:13 PM
Again, you're missing my point.

You're adding your slant, not what the facts are.

The White House said to report anything you feel is misinformation so they could set the record straight.

I said what if Bush said to email him if you saw "misinformation" about the Patriot Act.

I said NOTHING about reporting "evildoers."

Please try to be unbiased.

I know it's difficult, but try.

If the Patriot Act example is too difficult, pick another one.

I'm just saying imagine a President on the "other side" asked people to email him if they saw something contrary to what he was selling.

I'm sure you think Obama was the first President to use a teleprompter too.

You baffle me.

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 06:15 PM
Again, you're missing my point.

You're adding your slant, not what the facts are.

The White House said to report anything you feel is misinformation so they could set the record straight.

I said what if Bush said to email him if you saw "misinformation" about the Patriot Act.

I said NOTHING about reporting "evildoers."

Please try to be unbiased.

I know it's difficult, but try.

If the Patriot Act example is too difficult, pick another one.

I'm just saying imagine a President on the "other side" asked people to email him if they saw something contrary to what he was selling.

It's not that simple. It all depends on the context and what it's over. You can't just transplant one era or initiative over another and act like everything is the same. There's plenty of ways that this kind of thing from the current White House would be a terrible move. Over health care, no, I don't see how. They're going to, what, open files on people opposed to health care reform? That doesn't seem productive even if they were actually some kind of totalitarian cabal.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 06:20 PM
Gym? What's a gym?





OOOhhh a GYM!

Gvac
08-07-2009, 07:34 PM
Over health care, no, I don't see how.

Because it's something YOU agree with and something YOU want.

I can't believe you all can't see how blind you're being.

It's like saying you agree with raping a child if the end result is something you want, but you're against it if it results in something you're against.

Right is right, wrong is wrong.

This "email us if you see something we don't agree with" is WRONG, no matter how you slice it, and whether we're discussing health care or the price of postage stamps.

brettmojo
08-07-2009, 07:36 PM
This "email us if you see something we don't agree with" is WRONG, no matter how you slice it, and whether we're discussing health care or the price of postage stamps.
That's not what it says.

underdog
08-07-2009, 07:41 PM
Because it's something YOU agree with and something YOU want.

I can't believe you all can't see how blind you're being.

It's like saying you agree with raping a child if the end result is something you want, but you're against it if it results in something you're against.

Right is right, wrong is wrong.

This "email us if you see something we don't agree with" is WRONG, no matter how you slice it, and whether we're discussing health care or the price of postage stamps.

Most people here are ok with child rape.

Also, reported.

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 07:47 PM
Because it's something YOU agree with and something YOU want.

I can't believe you all can't see how blind you're being.

It's like saying you agree with raping a child if the end result is something you want, but you're against it if it results in something you're against.

Right is right, wrong is wrong.

What in God's name are you talking about?

I'm not "defending" the issue of health care reform here. As I made very clear in the post that you butchered I was pointing out the ridiculousness of how anyone could think some kind of "report your neighbors" conspiracy theory through e-mails in regard to the issue of health care reform made any kind of sense.

This "email us if you see something we don't agree with" is WRONG, no matter how you slice it, and whether we're discussing health care or the price of postage stamps.

Except that's not what was being asked for at all, but whatever. You're trying your damndest to spin this so it can seem nefarious when looking at it rationally shows how any of these theories or critcisms are just so impractical and unrealistic.

It's an attempt to engage the public using the internet, as they've done repeatedly over the last year, and it's an attempt to respond to the criticisms of a major initiative that the administration needs to convince the public of if they want it to pass. One of the best ways to do that is to know what to specifically respond to in statements and documentation provided by the administration.

epo
08-07-2009, 07:49 PM
It's like saying you agree with raping a child if the end result is something you want, but you're against it if it results in something you're against.



Crazy talk doesn't suit you well.

Gvac
08-07-2009, 07:49 PM
it's an attempt to respond to the criticisms of a major initiative that the administration needs to convince the public of if they want it to pass.

Like Bush wanted to do with the Patriot Act?

Gvac
08-07-2009, 07:49 PM
Wait...let me guess the responses...

"This is different! It isn't about evil, it's about HEALTH CARE!!!"

epo
08-07-2009, 07:50 PM
Like Bush wanted to do with the Patriot Act?

Bush faced no realistic public opposition to the Patriot Act and it was rushed through Congress.

Learn history!

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 07:53 PM
Wait...let me guess the responses...

"This is different! It isn't about evil, it's about HEALTH CARE!!!"

That's not what I said at all.

The political climate for the Patriot Act was vastly different. It had very little resistance in Congress and as such it was not necessary to "sell" it to either party or the public. It was hurried through and passed with very little debate.

Gvac
08-07-2009, 07:56 PM
Again, you're missing my point.


If the Patriot Act example is too difficult, pick another one.

I'm just saying imagine a President on the "other side" asked people to email him if they saw something contrary to what he was selling.

Try again, kiddies.

epo
08-07-2009, 07:57 PM
Try again, kiddies.

Your argument, so the burden of proof is on you.

Gvac
08-07-2009, 08:02 PM
Again, you're missing my point.



I'm just saying imagine a President on the "other side" asked people to email him if they saw something contrary to what he was selling.

Oy.

epo
08-07-2009, 08:04 PM
You realize that technology has offered us the greatest access to our leaders than at any point in human history. And that this very technology allows for dissent through said vehicles?

Gvac
08-07-2009, 08:04 PM
Let's PRETEND John McCain won and was currently our President.

Let's PRETEND he had a controversial bill he wanted to pass.

Let's PRETEND he asked that if you saw something contrary to what he claimed the bill to be you should email the White House.

Would you be defending him?

Be honest.

Gvac
08-07-2009, 08:07 PM
Just because it's a cause you believe in championed by a President you believe in it doesn't mean he can do no wrong.

And he is doing wrong.

brettmojo
08-07-2009, 08:07 PM
Let's PRETEND John McCain won and was currently our President.

Let's PRETEND he had a controversial bill he wanted to pass.

Let's PRETEND he asked that if you saw something contrary to what he claimed the bill to be you should email the White House.

Would you be defending him?

Be honest.
No because you wouldn't be attacking him.

Gvac
08-07-2009, 08:09 PM
No because you wouldn't be attacking him.

I absolutely would be.

Like I've said before, I don't have blind allegiance to any political party.

When someone abuses their power, whether they're a Republican, Democrat, Green Party, or whatever the fuck they call themselves, I'm against them.

I'm trying to get some blind Democrats to stop defending everything Obama does merely because he's their guy.

It's absurd.

"I voted for him so everything he does is right!"

Does that make sense?

It's moronic.

epo
08-07-2009, 08:12 PM
Once again, I want to reiterate this point. You've said that you HATE corporate interests in politics. You have an issue in which dissent (and false rhetoric) is being started by multi-national corporate interests.

The President then basically asks the public, "What kinds of crazy shit are you hearing?" so that he can answer the false criticism created by the multi-national corporations and this is bad?

You make no sense to me.

Furtherman
08-07-2009, 08:13 PM
Ahh for fucks sake... You've let the town crier make his moronic point and he's laughing in the sauna.

This gym is closed.

For us who know that no one will say something to change our minds.

Gvac
08-07-2009, 08:15 PM
Once again, I want to reiterate this point. You've said that you HATE corporate interests in politics. You have an issue in which dissent (and false rhetoric) is being started by multi-national corporate interests.

The President then basically asks the public, "What kinds of crazy shit are you hearing?" so that he can answer the false criticism created by the multi-national corporations and this is bad?

You make no sense to me.

Once again I ask you if you would support a Republican president doing the same thing.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

It's a Yes or No question.

underdog
08-07-2009, 08:17 PM
Just because it's a cause you believe in championed by a President you believe in it doesn't mean he can do no wrong.

And he is doing wrong.

If you're trying to get epo to stray from the party line, you'll never succeed.

epo
08-07-2009, 08:18 PM
Once again I ask you if you would support a Republican president doing the same thing.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

It's a Yes or No question.

Do I have a problem with a politician getting feedback from the public, never.

And please stop siding with Lord Jezo, its beneath you.

Gvac
08-07-2009, 08:19 PM
Do I have a problem with a politician getting feedback from the public, never.

And please stop siding with Lord Jezo, its beneath you.

So if PRETEND President McCain wanted to pass a bill that you disagreed with and left wing corporations were showing opposition to it and he said "email me the disinformation they're spreading" you'd be all for it?

Really?

Gvac
08-07-2009, 08:20 PM
If you're trying to get epo to stray from the party line, you'll never succeed.

This is what I fear.

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 08:21 PM
Once again I ask you if you would support a Republican president doing the same thing.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

It's a Yes or No question.

Yes. Really no reason not to.

underdog
08-07-2009, 08:22 PM
This is what I fear.

Why fear it? It just is.

I've become convinced that mojo got so bored with arguing with people and winning that he created epo and badmonkey as his board characters.

epo
08-07-2009, 08:23 PM
Why fear it? It just is.

I've become convinced that mojo got so bored with arguing with people and winning that he created epo and badmonkey as his board characters.

Please don't ever mention me and badmonkey in the same sentence.

epo
08-07-2009, 08:25 PM
So if PRETEND President McCain wanted to pass a bill that you disagreed with and left wing corporations were showing opposition to it and he said "email me the disinformation they're spreading" you'd be all for it?

Really?

Left-wing corporations?

That's just silly.

TheMojoPin
08-07-2009, 08:26 PM
Please don't ever mention me and badmonkey in the same sentence.

badmonkey just gave epo a billion dollars.

Gvac
08-07-2009, 08:27 PM
Why fear it? It just is.

I've become convinced that mojo got so bored with arguing with people and winning that he created epo and badmonkey as his board characters.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

foodcourtdruide
08-07-2009, 08:58 PM
I just don't get it. He's trying to address misinformation being disseminated on the internet. The blatant lies in these emails and videos have a huge effect on the opinions of some people. It looks like his administration is trying to combat this directly.

Gvac, what exactly do you have an issue with? Do you think Obama is creating a list of email addresses that he will one day turn into a "blacklist"? If so, I know the perfect gym for you :)

Gvac
08-07-2009, 08:59 PM
I just don't get it. He's trying to address misinformation being disseminated on the internet. The blatant lies in these emails and videos have a huge effect on the opinions of some people. It looks like his administration is trying to combat this directly.

Gvac, what exactly do you have an issue with? Do you think Obama is creating a list of email addresses that he will one day turn into a "blacklist"? If so, I know the perfect gym for you :)

The President's job is to sell it to the American people, not to have the people "turn in" others to him so he can counterpunch.

It just really stinks to me.

~Katja~
08-07-2009, 09:08 PM
As a former member of a communist country I might wanna exercise at the gym Jezo attends... I would love to be a fly on the wall even...




oh and my ass will be eternally grateful too

foodcourtdruide
08-07-2009, 09:11 PM
The President's job is to sell it to the American people, not to have the people "turn in" others to him so he can counterpunch.

It just really stinks to me.

So I ask the following:

1. Do you think misinformation exists in these chain emails and videos?
2. If so, do you think they are a significant problem, as far as the nation discussing health insurance goes?
3. If so, if so... How do you suppose the Obama administration address it?

My answers to the questions are:
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. I kinda like handling it directly. "Hey, you're spewing bullshit, here's a direct answer to it".

I bet the reason they are approaching the public to send them the information is to get an idea of which video's/emails have had the most exposure, so they know which they should spend time addressing.

~Katja~
08-07-2009, 09:25 PM
I kinda agree that in today's society it is much more a tool to deal with misinformation and and acknowledgment of false fears.

foodcourtdruide
08-07-2009, 09:26 PM
I kinda agree that in today's society it is much more a tool to deal with misinformation and and acknowledgment of false fears.

Yes. These exist and they are powerful.

Dougie Brootal
08-07-2009, 10:07 PM
you guys are ruining this thread with poitical talk.

anyone wanna get a vitamin water?

TripleSkeet
08-07-2009, 11:22 PM
Im not an Obama supporter. To be honest I dont give a fuck about republicans or democrats. As a completely unbiased observer what this sounds like is the White House trying to find out what kind of misinformation about the health care plan may be going around. Maybe so they can address the misinformation and set the record straight.

Kinda like trying to help the stupid sheep that believe everything they read, like, for example, that Obama wasnt born in this country and somehow circumvented the law to become president. Look how many dummys still buy that stupid shit.

I dont see this as a "big brother" type thing at all.

Oh...can somebody spot me?

Crispy123
08-08-2009, 12:00 AM
As long as free speach is enforced and people arent persecuted for the words they type on the internet within the accepted framework of the rest of society then I have no problem with the government collecting emails or posts.

Anyone want to go play a game of shirtless volleyball then hit the showers?


http://www.aeropause.com/wordpress/archives/images/2008/07/986tgn_val_kilmer_006.jpg

KnoxHarrington
08-08-2009, 04:32 AM
I do admit that I would have been nervous about the Bush Administration doing this, but they did show an actual disdain for due process and civil rights. I wouldn't have gone "OMG THIS IS TO GET NAMES FOR FEMA RELOCATION CAMPS!!!!111!" full retard, though.

It's funny how many left-wing conspiracy theories about the Bush Administration are just getting recycled by the right against Obama. So how did letting Bush wildly expand the power of the Presidency while you didn't say jack shit to stop him work out for you, Republicans?

Gvac
08-08-2009, 06:32 AM
http://www.slublog.com/archives/countingonyou.jpg

Gvac
08-08-2009, 06:33 AM
http://www.slublog.com/archives/fishy2.jpg

Gvac
08-08-2009, 06:33 AM
http://www.slublog.com/archives/fishy.jpg

IMSlacker
08-08-2009, 06:41 AM
http://www.slublog.com/archives/countingonyou.jpg

http://www.slublog.com/archives/fishy2.jpg

http://www.slublog.com/archives/fishy.jpg

I had to report all of these. I'm sorry, Gvac, but I'm sure you'll soon realize it's for good of the country.

Dude!
08-08-2009, 06:54 AM
anyone wanna get a vitamin water?

only if it's recycled urine

Gvac
08-08-2009, 07:01 AM
http://www.slublog.com/archives/watching.jpg

IMSlacker
08-08-2009, 07:05 AM
http://www.slublog.com/archives/countingonyou.jpg

http://www.slublog.com/archives/fishy2.jpg

http://www.slublog.com/archives/fishy.jpg

http://www.slublog.com/archives/watching.jpg

These posters would be much more effective if they provided the email address. Maybe Obama is slipping.

beachbum
08-08-2009, 08:15 AM
Because it's a way for people to feel involved in a major policy push and "government" in general. This White House and the Democrats as a whole have been smartly using the internet in the last couple of years to attempt to get people involved with or at least pay more attention to politics. This is simply another part of that. Nobody has to "dime anyone else out:" why not just copy and paste the forward or article or whatever sans personal information? Nowhere is the White House demanding or asking people to "report" anyone else.

And please, explain how this feels like McCarthyism. I can only assume you're talking about people then ratting out other people (usually unjustly or based on heresay) to get focus shifted off of them. How does that apply here? Nothing is being offered. Nobody has to do this. That's a completely disingenous and overractionary take on something so inconsequential.


What the hell is wrong with you?You are using logic,reason,and personal intellect to discern the truth from what you read.Don't you know that you are supposed to spend 9 hours a day listening to and then watching Hannity,O'Reilly,and the greatest of them all Glen Beck and swearing blind allegience to every paranoid delusion they expound?

lleeder
08-08-2009, 08:20 AM
http://www.slublog.com/archives/watching.jpg

Don't worry thats the money you could be saving by switching to socialism.

booster11373
08-08-2009, 10:27 AM
I might be incorrect with my comparison but

Health care is to R/conservatives what Iraq was to D/progressives

LordJezo
08-08-2009, 10:34 AM
I might be incorrect with my comparison but

Health care is to R/conservatives what Iraq was to D/progressives

Nice use of the word progressives to cover up the communist socialists that liberals now stands for.

underdog
08-08-2009, 10:42 AM
Nice use of the word progressives to cover up the communist socialists that liberals now stands for.

Now?

Reported.

Doogie
08-08-2009, 10:46 AM
What is curious is that ACLU has nothing to say, especially on their website, about the protests and the White House asking for people to "report" protesters. Provocative...

underdog
08-08-2009, 10:47 AM
What is curious is that ACLU has nothing to say, especially on their website, about the protests and the White House asking for people to "report" protesters. Provocative...

**preemptive comment about ACLU being a liberal organization**

razorboy
08-08-2009, 10:48 AM
Nice use of the word progressives to cover up the communist socialists that liberals now stands for.

Communist Socialist? Seriously? Did you make it through grade school?

underdog
08-08-2009, 10:49 AM
Communist Socialist? Seriously? Did you make it through grade school?

fascist.

IMSlacker
08-08-2009, 10:49 AM
What is curious is that ACLU has nothing to say, especially on their website, about the protests and the White House asking for people to "report" protesters. Provocative...

If the White House was asking people to report protesters, I'm sure the ACLU would have something to say about it. Since they're not, they don't.

Oh and underdog is so going to report you.

razorboy
08-08-2009, 10:50 AM
fascist.

Mikeyboy.

epo
08-08-2009, 10:50 AM
If the White House was asking people to report protesters, I'm sure the ACLU would have something to say about it. Since they're not, they don't.

Oh and underdog is so going to report you.

I've not only reported the thread, I've asked for extreme punishment.

Doogie
08-08-2009, 10:52 AM
Oh and underdog is so going to report you.

Snitches get stitches...

razorboy
08-08-2009, 10:53 AM
Snitches get stitches...

Universal health care.

Crispy123
08-08-2009, 11:14 AM
Nice use of the word progressives to cover up the communist socialists that liberals now stands for.

I know right and nice use of the word "conservative" to cover up the unheard of expansion of the federal government, raping the constitution and abolishing seperation of church and state that Republicans now stands for.

The Jays
08-08-2009, 11:19 AM
What the hell is wrong with you?You are using logic,reason,and personal intellect to discern the truth from what you read.Don't you know that you are supposed to spend 9 hours a day listening to and then watching Hannity,O'Reilly,and the greatest of them all Glen Beck and swearing blind allegience to every paranoid delusion they expound?

Yeah seriously. It's your American duty as patriots to listen to Fox News everyday to combat propaganda.

The Jays
08-08-2009, 11:22 AM
I know right and nice use of the word "conservative" to cover up the unheard of expansion of the federal government, raping the constitution and abolishing seperation of church and state that Republicans now stands for.

Yeah. It's nice that the right is so up in arms about an email address, yet had no problem with the expansion of warrentless wire tapping, because losing our rights is the sacrafice that terrorism defense demands, but creating an email address to report right wing spam is somehow Big Brother watching us.

TheMojoPin
08-08-2009, 11:22 AM
What is curious is that ACLU has nothing to say, especially on their website, about the protests and the White House asking for people to "report" protesters. Provocative...

And why exactly would the ACLU involved? Whose free speech is being surpressed by the government?

A.J.
08-08-2009, 11:34 AM
but creating an email address to report right wing spam is somehow Big Brother watching us.

::SARCASM::Why do spam e-mails even need to be reported when all Americans' e-mails and phone calls are being read and listened to by the government ever since 9/11? They're going to find out about it anyway. This program is just more government waste.::SARCASM::

Doogie
08-08-2009, 11:41 AM
And why exactly would the ACLU involved? Whose free speech is being surpressed by the government?

Seriously?? "If anyone disagrees with our program or sends around an email contrary to what we say, report them." Why does there have to be any reporting at all?? Lets face the facts, that is a threat to those that wish to send around what they want to send around. Hence it is intimidation and suppression of thought. Just the fact that their is that sort of threat being handed down by high level of government officials is a crime in itself. People disagree so we are going to re-educate them?? And why is it people cant just protest about what they feel unjust without having that fear hanging above them.

TheMojoPin
08-08-2009, 12:11 PM
Seriously?? "If anyone disagrees with our program or sends around an email contrary to what we say, report them."

Wow, that IS an incredibly terrifying and loaded request coming from the White House! There's not a moment to lose! We need to mobilize and get ready and...

Wait...what's that?

That's NOT what was actually said?

There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/) These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.

Awwww, damn. There goes THAT one.

Why does there have to be any reporting at all?? Lets face the facts, that is a threat to those that wish to send around what they want to send around. Hence it is intimidation and suppression of thought. Just the fact that their is that sort of threat being handed down by high level of government officials is a crime in itself. People disagree so we are going to re-educate them?? And why is it people cant just protest about what they feel unjust without having that fear hanging above them.

Yeah, the ACLU should get going based on those completely made up and nonexistent situations you just dropped on us.

Do you honestly think that what you put in quotation marks above is what was actually said? Go to the link I provded. The whole thing was clearly posted in the context of a blog post talking about responding to the made up facts and alarmist hype around the proposed health care reform. It's an incidental attempt to better shape the White House's statements on this initiative and keep the public better informed as well as making people feel like they're involved.

LordJezo
08-08-2009, 12:28 PM
Communist Socialist? Seriously? Did you make it through grade school?

Could have said Kim Jong Illist, but then that would be going to easy on the policies that Obama is forcing on this country.

epo
08-08-2009, 12:37 PM
Could have said Kim Jong Illist, but then that would be going to easy on the policies that Obama is forcing on this country.

Have you seen the hellicopters over your home yet? Because I reported you a couple of minutes ago and they should be arriving any moment.

disneyspy
08-08-2009, 12:38 PM
Have you seen the hellicopters over your home yet? Because I reported you a couple of minutes ago and they should be arriving any moment.

the black helicopters only show up at night and boy are they quiet

booster11373
08-08-2009, 12:38 PM
Could have said Kim Jong Illist, but then that would be going to easy on the policies that Obama is forcing on this country.

after reading your post I would hope they do away with universal health care and really focus on universal mental health care

razorboy
08-08-2009, 12:42 PM
Could have said Kim Jong Illist, but then that would be going to easy on the policies that Obama is forcing on this country.

You could have referenced two political ideologies that had even a modicum of similarity, but that would have required some grasp on reality.

LordJezo
08-10-2009, 04:18 AM
You could have referenced two political ideologies that had even a modicum of similarity, but that would have required some grasp on reality.

People worship Kim Jong Ill as a god like figure with only his father, ruler for all eternity, being held to a higher standard.

We are slowing approaching that with the way Obama is being treated. People crying in the streets and coming to him for salvation. Obama is our new god and the left will never leave his side under any circumstance.

LordJezo
08-10-2009, 07:26 AM
People worship Kim Jong Ill as a god like figure with only his father, ruler for all eternity, being held to a higher standard.

We are slowing approaching that with the way Obama is being treated. People crying in the streets and coming to him for salvation. Obama is our new god and the left will never leave his side under any circumstance.

Okay maybe that one went a tad too far, but still, Obamalove seems even stronger than born again church with creepy cardboard cutouts Bush love.

Furtherman
08-10-2009, 07:27 AM
Please don't eat the soap.

Syd
08-10-2009, 07:54 AM
Okay maybe that one went a tad too far, but still, Obamalove seems even stronger than born again church with creepy cardboard cutouts Bush love.

Not really, the right is portraying the left as worshiping Obama so they can pull in more donations since business is busy funding the current party in power. Have to remain relevant somehow and as has been evidenced, propaganda to your constituents is a powerful fundraiser.

IMSlacker
08-10-2009, 08:38 AM
I guess this is what they are doing with the emails they're collecting.

Very sinister...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/

Dude!
08-10-2009, 09:12 AM
Lord Jezo,
don't be deterred in
your passion for the truth
by a bunch of idiotic
board characters

LordJezo
08-10-2009, 09:51 AM
I guess this is what they are doing with the emails they're collecting.

Very sinister...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/

Propaganda worse than anything Goebbels ever thought up.

Furtherman
08-10-2009, 09:55 AM
Lucille Roberts!

foodcourtdruide
08-10-2009, 10:17 AM
Propaganda worse than anything Goebbels ever thought up.

"Control of the arts and media was not just a matter of personnel. Soon the content of every newspaper, book, novel, play, film, broadcast and concert, from the level of nationally-known publishers and orchestras to local newspapers and village choirs, was subject to supervision by the Propaganda Ministry" - Goebbels Wiki Page

I guess the paragraph about Goebbels asking citizens to voluntarily send falsehoods about his parties healthcare program from email's and youtube, so they could address them directly in an intelligent manner was just too terrifying for Wiki to publish.

IMSlacker
08-10-2009, 10:20 AM
Propaganda worse than anything Goebbels ever thought up.

High praise, indeed.

TheMojoPin
08-10-2009, 12:55 PM
I guess this is what they are doing with the emails they're collecting.

Very sinister...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/

A FAQ?

More like FAQcist.

YEAH!

Yeah.

The Jays
08-10-2009, 02:26 PM
I do not know if I can do it anymore. The people in this country are more and more siding with insanity and lies instead of using common sense and trying to get positive change in America. People would rather do what Fox News and talk radio says than to get anything fixed in this country. They believe crazy fucking shit like old people will be killed. How can I combat crazy fucking retards with reason?

booster11373
08-10-2009, 02:28 PM
I do not know if I can do it anymore. The people in this country are more and more siding with insanity and lies instead of using common sense and trying to get positive change in America. People would rather do what Fox News and talk radio says than to get anything fixed in this country. They believe crazy fucking shit like old people will be killed. How can I combat crazy fucking retards with reason?

Im starting to feel the same way

booster11373
08-10-2009, 02:36 PM
Clearly these people need to spend more time in the gym and less in those lefty churches

Progressive Religious Groups Line Up Behind Obama On Health Care

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/08/health_care_obama_ads_family_r.html?sc=fb&cc=fp

Gvac
08-10-2009, 02:41 PM
http://www.slublog.com/archives/healthcarenow.jpg

The Jays
08-10-2009, 03:19 PM
We get it. 8 years later, the right has learned how to use Photoshop.

TripleSkeet
08-10-2009, 04:25 PM
I do not know if I can do it anymore. The people in this country are more and more siding with insanity and lies instead of using common sense and trying to get positive change in America. People would rather do what Fox News and talk radio says than to get anything fixed in this country. They believe crazy fucking shit like old people will be killed. How can I combat crazy fucking retards with reason?

Took you that long huh?

Political party supporters have turned into sports fanatic types. They dont care what their party does. If it will help or hurt this country. All they care about is being able to say "YEA! My party won the last election. That somehow makes me better then you. Eat that!"

TripleSkeet
08-10-2009, 04:30 PM
Seriously?? "If anyone disagrees with our program or sends around an email contrary to what we say, report them."

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

You just completely made that up!!! Wow, that may be the worst example of conprehension Ive ever seen.

Gvac
08-10-2009, 04:34 PM
http://wolfpangloss.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/obama-liberal-fascism.jpg

Gvac
08-10-2009, 04:36 PM
http://mschaut.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/fascist.jpg

Syd
08-10-2009, 07:07 PM
I'm beginning to think people don't understand the term fascism. After socialism failed to resonate and fascism likely won't either I'm wondering what the marketing boys will think up next. My guess is hudswingerism or shazzameterism

Dude!
08-10-2009, 07:29 PM
I'm beginning to think people don't understand the term fascism. After socialism failed to resonate and fascism likely won't either I'm wondering what the marketing boys will think up next. My guess is hudswingerism or shazzameterism

naw
the one that will stick is 'communism'

DolaMight
08-10-2009, 07:30 PM
I reported a bunch of arab cock cams from pal talk to the whitehouse website. I hope Obama's thought police take them down.

epo
08-10-2009, 07:38 PM
I reported the entire board. You creeps need oversight.

~Katja~
08-10-2009, 07:45 PM
I reported the entire board. You creeps need oversight.
would be hilarious if someone actually did!

LordJezo
08-11-2009, 03:26 AM
Clearly these people need to spend more time in the gym and less in those lefty churches

Progressive Religious Groups Line Up Behind Obama On Health Care

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/08/health_care_obama_ads_family_r.html?sc=fb&cc=fp

Sounds like how the antichrist is supposed to come and unite the churches before crushing them all and forcing them to his will.

Furtherman
08-11-2009, 05:14 AM
Grape smoothies are available at the snack bar today.

booster11373
08-11-2009, 05:49 AM
Sounds like how the antichrist is supposed to come and unite the churches before crushing them all and forcing them to his will.

The body is a temple maybe the gyms are where the Antichrist is hanging these days

CurseoftheBambi
08-11-2009, 11:57 AM
Sounds like how the antichrist is supposed to come and unite the churches before crushing them all and forcing them to his will.

yeah and the antichrist is supposed to be embraced by all until he shows his true colors...thus proving obama is not the antichrist.:wallbash:

lleeder
08-11-2009, 03:07 PM
I know we facin a recession but the music yall makin gonna make it the great depression

TjM
08-18-2009, 03:17 AM
yeah and the antichrist is supposed to be embraced by all until he shows his true colors...thus proving obama is not the antichrist.:wallbash:

This

west milly Tom
08-18-2009, 03:30 AM
I would love to see a list of sites that were taken down due to the white house rat patrol you know since there's supposed to be unprecedented transparency in the Obama administration.

The Jays
08-18-2009, 03:54 AM
Wow. Websites taken down? What type of weed do you smoke?

LordJezo
08-18-2009, 04:09 AM
Woo.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26188.html

Email address disabled. Not lik eit matters, but it's a pretend victory as they change their strategy to blackmail and hunt down all of the opposition.

Ritalin
08-18-2009, 04:22 AM
Don't relax, Jezo. It's not over.

They're still coming for you.

west milly Tom
08-18-2009, 04:27 AM
Woo.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26188.html

Email address disabled. Not lik eit matters, but it's a pretend victory as they change their strategy to blackmail and hunt down all of the opposition.



Now what?

badmonkey
08-18-2009, 10:09 AM
Woo.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26188.html

Email address disabled. Not lik eit matters, but it's a pretend victory as they change their strategy to blackmail and hunt down all of the opposition.

I really don't want to fuel the conspiracy, but if you're getting an autoresponder message like that, the email address is not necessarily "disabled". The mail is reaching its destination and it is triggering the autoresponder message. Now the mail could still be dropped in a bit bucket or /dev/null type spot where it disappears as if it was never received and can never be read, but it could also still forward to another email address even with the autoresponder. The mail logs will still have the email address it came from for a little while anyway depending on their log storage/rotation policies. It's easy to set up on ANY mail system.

I'm not saying they're lying about disabling the email address. I'm just saying that the general public doesn't have this kind of knowledge about how email works and could easily be misled. Again ... I'm not saying they're doing it. I'm just saying that it is technically possible to be done and most people would never know the difference.

Furtherman
08-18-2009, 10:15 AM
I'm just saying LordJezo doesn't have this kind of knowledge about how anything works and could always be misled.

Fixed.

Skellington
08-18-2009, 12:08 PM
The AARP stage has a odd likeliness to the Jerry Springer stage.