Fez's plan to get rid of Dave.

[MobCounty]

Enough is a enough..

It's clear Fez has a plan, and is out for Dave's third mic. Dave is a huge contributor to the show. From the speaker side, it's arguable that Dave brings as more than anyone else but Ronny himself. I think Fez is jealous of Dave's happiness, his job, and his family.

If anyone has a plan, it's Fez and his constant undermining of Dave.


:devil2:

[ShowerBench]

Bullshit.

The effect of Dave's disrespect is that listeners now see a third option to "get behind." Before, it was always Ron, Fez, and the listeners vs producers and interns. I don't remember a staffer ever treating Fez like that.

Like Fez said, it happened over a long period of time when he was recovering from his heart attacks and emotional fallout from them, and the show needed Dave on the mic more.

Dave sucks for taking that opportunity and using it against Fez.

[CaseyinOttawa]

You've gotta be crazy! Dave was admittedly brought in to help Fez as a third mic TEMPORARILY. Now that our man Fez is making a come back, it's uncomfortable for Dave to separate the Dave-Character and Dave-Person. His overwhelming personality works well as a contribution for when the show lags due to Fez's emotional health.

I think they have to sit down and be honest- either Dave takes a backseat or tries to launch the Sam & Dave show. The show isn't designed for someone to be a competitive mic, rather the RnF history has proved they like a producer who can contribute and fade into the background.

The Dave-Person may take the decision to shelve his Dave-Character personally, but I don't think he's sabotaging the show. This is merely his attempt to reassert his character back on mic where it has spent the majority of the last 3 years.

Either a personnel change is required, or the dynamic of the show has to shift. I'm willing to bet on the former.

PS: does anyone think a mock-firing bit would be perfect right now? Can Dave, let him come back in another character format, or perhaps Fez could stage a mock-resignation and adopt another character for a while. Might give him a chance to reassess and come back stronger.

[CHUCKWAGONCOOK]

That's it!!!

[hurlmon]

. I don't remember a staffer ever treating Fez like that.
.

That's because fez used to be able to go with a bit or fight back with humor rather than personal attacks.

[ShowerBench]

It's real simple. Dave keeps taking shots at Fez and doing production bits that mock Fez.

Fez reacts, and Fez has said he's going to keep reacting. Yet Dave keeps it up.

Is it Fez's responsibility to let this retard take shots at him all day? "Roll with the punches" coming from some staffer? Fez's responsibility regarding Dave is to do whatever the hell he wants to do because IT'S THE RON AND FEZ SHOW.

Fez decided to call him out every time. That means it's Dave's responsibility to cease and desist. If he doesn't, and this stuff keeps coming up, it's Dave's fault.

(I like Dave)

[Rob I]

I am so fuckin tired of the Fez homers. You guys are out of your fucking minds as much as Fez is. Dave continues to help ron have someone to interact with. If he werent there Ron would eventually go bat shit insane because his cohost has forgotten how to do radio. You stick up for Fez so much you think now Dave cant even laugh at a Fez joke anymore, yet you dont even consider that only Ron can instigate everything, talk down to Fez all the time(not buying his bullshit EP excuse), make fun of Fez every second he gets. Fez on the other hand lets it all happen and bitches and wines and complains when ANYONE (O&A, Jay Mohr etc..) bust his balls. He has become a person who doesnt get comedy one bit at all. he used to be great at it. not anymore. Dave I wish you would just say "you know what I staying off mic for a month" just to show everyone that fez needs to relearn how to do radio again and Ronnie will go nuts not having anyone to interact with

[CaseyinOttawa]

ChuckWagon,

I think your bit-contribution to the show was entertaining, but ended up blown out of proportion. Again, it comes back to the Fez vs. Todd conundrum that is going on. His character is out of line, and he's struggling to manage them. What is taken as a joke against the Fez-Character is being confused as a shot against Todd. If he were to work with his character coach on how to balance the two, perhaps things wouldn't have been so gonzo.

[ShowerBench]

I am so fuckin tired of the Fez homers. You guys are out of your fucking minds as much as Fez is. Dave continues to help ron have someone to interact with.

The problem with that theory: If there is a need on the show for someone to fill up some mic time, there are more than enough people who could do it AND respect both hosts. People in that role are completely interchangeable.

I disagree that it's needed right now. Fez is back.

[EddieMoscone]

Now that our man Fez is making a come back

http://www.dor-lomin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lebowski-opinion.jpg

Seriously, if you do think he's making a comeback...what has brought it on? Oh yeah, his battles with Dave...convenient.

[Rob I]

I disagree that it's needed right now. Fez is back.

apparently you missed the first hour of todays show, or yesterday during ronnies 8 minutes for jay.

Fez is not back....he's trying but the wrong way. He is on 202, a ball busting station. He rarely injects comedy into the show and can't interact with Ron on most topics. The plugs when he doesnt know what to say are really tiresome. He's not back.

Fez was mean back in the day, yes. but he could take ball busting from other shows on wnew, now he cant. Everyone aside from Ron has to tiptoe and that is bs. If Fez was back he wouldn't get angry, he'd be funny in his attacks towards Dave, he'd be so funny Dave would second guess trying to be funny at Fez's expense because Fez would just shut him down thru comedy like he used to do all the time.

Also enough with this respect thing. comedy is comedy. If someone has a funny thing to say and it gets a laugh it only makes the show better. If a producer who is on air at the request of one cohost and talks most of the time because the other cohost doesnt know how to do radio anymore that shouldn't make it so there are limitations to jokes. No one is safe when it comes to comedy. everyone can and should be made fun of. once you start making rules its no longer comedy

[MobCounty]

You've gotta be crazy! Dave was admittedly brought in to help Fez as a third mic TEMPORARILY.

Yeah, but the Fez characters comeback is 'wounded healering' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_healer) on the Dave character. It's arguable that the Dave character gave birth to the new Fez character.

[ShowerBench]

Fez was mean back in the day, yes. but he could take ball busting from other shows on wnew, now he cant. Everyone aside from Ron has to tiptoe and that is bs. If Fez was back he wouldn't get angry, he'd be funny in his attacks towards Dave, he'd be so funny Dave would second guess trying to be funny at Fez's expense because Fez would just shut him down thru comedy like he used to do all the time.

He's doing it. And Dave is second guessing it - that's why he was moping in the corner today.

Ron isn't tiptoeing.

And I laughed when Fez called Dave a redheaded see through amphibian.

[Donnie Dumphy]

You've gotta be crazy! Dave was admittedly brought in to help Fez as a third mic TEMPORARILY.

Nothin is temporary....

except for restraining orders.





I love you Brenda!

[Milbarge]

how's about everyone just puts this into perspective. both guys are great for the show. regardless of what has happened in the past, dave shouldn't bust fez's balls if he doesn't like it and fez shouldn't be so paranoid and overreact so much. this whole blame game bullshit needs to stop. remember, it is the 'ron and fez' show, so whatever those two say, is what goes.

[knockknock]

Fez is a diva. I think it's funny when Dave busts Fez's balls. I think it's funny when Fez busts Dave's balls. I don't think it's funny for Fez to play the Diva card and declare himself off-limits.

Let's take each side to the extreme:

Would you prefer an R&F show where everyone jokes and ribs each other? Or would you prefer an R&F show where everyone walks on eggshells and you're forbidden to hurt another one's feelings? The latter option is what the Whatley Pussy faction of the Whatley Posse wants. Go listen to the Oprah channel then.

[instrument]

Yes fez is speaking more, sadly the show isn't about word count, it's about being entertaining.

And sometimes it really seems like that part of him is gone.

[ShowerBench]

Would you prefer an R&F show where everyone jokes and ribs each other? Or would you prefer an R&F show where everyone walks on eggshells and you're forbidden to hurt another one's feelings?

False dichotomy.

I prefer the pre-Dave dynamic, where two hosts talk and a producer contributes now and then, but his contribution doesn't include busting hosts' balls and derailing the show.

See how easy? No eggshells or forbidding involved.

Dave is interfering with a system that worked until he was given more mic time.

[MobCounty]

Yes fez is speaking more, sadly the show isn't about word count, it's about being entertaining.

And sometimes it really seems like that part of him is gone.

I dunno about entertaining in the sense of jokes and bits and shit, but the show is quite entertaining in a cringe, engaging sense. There has always been a balance between funny, and fighting, Al Dukes, Earl, Elfish, Mikey D, etc. etc. It's a very good soap opera.

The one thing I can't figure out is how far Fez is throwing the Casey character under the bus. It's gotta be a real pain to have listeners turn on you when you don't even pull a check from the show that's doing it.

[ShowerBench]

The one thing I can't figure out is how far Fez is throwing the Casey character under the bus. It's gotta be a real pain to have listeners turn on you when you don't even pull a check from the show that's doing it.

Seems like Dave could have put a stop to that any time. Instead he's producing FezOpie and "The Plan" bits. Insane. Or is it?

[Meataball23]

Seems like Dave could have put a stop to that any time. Instead he's producing FezOpie and "The Plan" bits. Insane. Or is it?

Dude are you exhausted from waving the flag w/ the same posts/arguments over and over that really make no sense at all? We get it, you love Fez and think hes been great on the show.

I would say that we're flatly not listening to the same show, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I will say that your over the top support of something thats just clearly not there is wild, youre like bizzaro o'reilly

[hydee]

Enough is a enough..

It's clear Fez has a plan, and is out for Dave's third mic. Dave is a huge contributor to the show. From the speaker side, it's arguable that Dave brings as more than anyone else but Ronny himself. I think Fez is jealous of Dave's happiness, his job, and his family.

If anyone has a plan, it's Fez and his constant undermining of Dave.


:devil2:

I don't think Fez is jealous. I think Fez is pissed that Dave won't go back to being a producer and Dave trying to hog the mic every chance he gets. It's not needed anymore. Even when Fez gets into crazy talk it's better then hearing Dave talk endlessly about sports or music that he listened to when he was 14.

Dave is boring. Dave might make a funny from time to time but he lacks life experience that he can really draw from and entertain with.

Also I find Opie and Ron to be 1000% more interesting because I don't know jack shit about their personal lives. Hearing the trials and tribulations of Dave's unplanned parenthood, sick kids, and sick wife isn't entertaining. I don't care about Anthony's complete lack of self control and his electric bill, and I don't really care about Fez's shrink visits either.

Ron and Opie can be great entertainers with out bragging,moaning and groaning.

[hurlmon]

Dave is interfering with a system that worked until he was given more mic time.



You can blame more mic time for dave as the problem but remember that Fez's problems are the reason Dave got more mic time. And giving him the mic was to keep the so called system running. IF Ron didn't think it was good radio Dave wouldn't be in the studio.

He has been kept of the air before because he was not letting Fez talk and I'm sure he will again.

[Meataball23]

You can blame more mic time for dave as the problem but remember that Fez's problems are the reason Dave got more mic time. And giving him the mic was to keep the so called system running. IF Ron didn't think it was good radio Dave wouldn't be in the studio.

He has been kept of the air before because he was not letting Fez talk and I'm sure he will again.

Thats really the answer here. I think we can all agree that Ron controls who has mic time or at least orchestrates the maddness. If he didnt want ESD on air I flatly dont think he would be.

[Rob I]

False dichotomy.

I prefer the pre-Dave dynamic, where two hosts talk and a producer contributes now and then, but his contribution doesn't include busting hosts' balls and derailing the show.

See how easy? No eggshells or forbidding involved.

Dave is interfering with a system that worked until he was given more mic time.

2 things. I'm too lazy to reread my post but what I meant was everyone but Ron has to tiptoe.

second. the system that worked stopped working before Dave was given mic time. Due to Fez's issues. Dave was brought in to fill a role because the system failed. This old system still doesnt work. the show has changed as it has many times before. Only this change in recent years is one of the guys names on the show hasnt done his job in years. I am all for him coming back but the way he is doing it is waaaaaaaaaaaaay wrong, not funny nor entertaining

[ShowerBench]

You can blame more mic time for dave as the problem but remember that Fez's problems are the reason Dave got more mic time. And giving him the mic was to keep the so called system running. IF Ron didn't think it was good radio Dave wouldn't be in the studio.

He has been kept of the air before because he was not letting Fez talk and I'm sure he will again.

I'm not blaming more mic time. I said when Dave was given more mic time, he used it against Fez.

Dave can continue to have a decent amount of mic time for reasons ranging from Fez having an off day to Dave's skills at conversing on certain topics. Fez has no problem with mic time because mic time isn't the problem - the problem is how Dave has used it against Fez.

[Korda]

I don't think Fez is jealous. I think Fez is pissed that Dave won't go back to being a producer and Dave trying to hog the mic every chance he gets. It's not needed anymore. Even when Fez gets into crazy talk it's better then hearing Dave talk endlessly about sports or music that he listened to when he was 14.

Dave is boring. Dave might make a funny from time to time but he lacks life experience that he can really draw from and entertain with.

Also I find Opie and Ron to be 1000% more interesting because I don't know jack shit about their personal lives. Hearing the trials and tribulations of Dave's unplanned parenthood, sick kids, and sick wife isn't entertaining. I don't care about Anthony's complete lack of self control and his electric bill, and I don't really care about Fez's shrink visits either.

Ron and Opie can be great entertainers with out bragging,moaning and groaning.

It really depends on the host. Jimmy is great, in part, because of his brutal honesty about his personal life. Others don't bring their lives to the radio. It all depends on one's style whether or not it works.

[Rob I]

I'm not blaming more mic time. I said when Dave was given more mic time, he used it against Fez.

Dave can continue to have a decent amount of mic time for reasons ranging from Fez having an off day to Dave's skills at conversing on certain topics. Fez has no problem with mic time because mic time isn't the problem - the problem is how Dave has used it against Fez.

which in your eyes Ron and only ron is allowed to joke with fez and everyone else on the show and at the station arent alllowed to do the same or laugh for that matter. Last time I will say this...its a comedy show, producers make bits making fun of hot topics. Its done on other shows and no one cries or complains but Fez is special and should never be made fun of....except by Ron and Ron only.

You're a fez homer sir so there is no need talking about this with you ever again

[PD]

Thats really the answer here. I think we can all agree that Ron controls who has mic time or at least orchestrates the maddness. If he didnt want ESD on air I flatly dont think he would be.

logic.

damn you.

[hereintheUK]

That's because fez used to be able to go with a bit or fight back with humor rather than personal attacks.

To be fair the "bit" has never been as deep as undermining fez's authority. I can remember fez ever taking such a consistent hammering from one of the shows staff. The openly laughing at his opinions and switching your own to suit your argument. It's an unpresedented situation in the shows history.

[ShowerBench]

its a comedy show, producers make bits making fun of hot topics. Its done on other shows and no one cries or complains but Fez is special and should never be made fun of..

What do you think about the "treaty" prohibiting mention of Dave's family (whom Dave talks about) by Fez?

Also, please reconcile:

1. The rule that says wives are off-limits if they want to be

with

2. Dave's attack on Travis's wife, who isn't involved in any show

and

3. The rule that says a staffer can take shots at a host if some people think the shots are funny but the host can't take shots at that staffer's family no matter how funny they are

[Meataball23]

logic.

damn you.

Thank you, thank you:smoke:

[ShowerBench]

To be fair the "bit" has never been as deep as undermining fez's authority. I can remember fez ever taking such a consistent hammering from one of the shows staff. The openly laughing at his opinions and switching your own to suit your argument. It's an unpresedented situation in the shows history.

Have to agree. And "Fez has no sense of humor about himself" is bullshit. He got hammered for the Jonah Bobo interview and was laughing at himself. Does it all the time, and lately does it more than he has in a long time. The exception is the Dave behavior.

[Meataball23]

Have to agree. And "Fez has no sense of humor about himself" is bullshit. He got hammered for the Jonah Bobo interview and was laughing at himself. Does it all the time, and lately does it more than he has in a long time. The exception is the Dave behavior.

And its a big exception. When Ron makes fun of him and ESD laughs, Fez immediately attacks ESD.

Its the same EXACT behavior Earl used to do. Ron could say anything, but he would always freak out on Dave.

[S0S]

To be fair the "bit" has never been as deep as undermining fez's authority. I can remember fez ever taking such a consistent hammering from one of the shows staff. The openly laughing at his opinions and switching your own to suit your argument. It's an unprecedented situation in the shows history.

I don't think ESD knows what he is doing. ESD is extremely competitive and does not let up.

[hydee]

It really depends on the host. Jimmy is great, in part, because of his brutal honesty about his personal life. Others don't bring their lives to the radio. It all depends on one's style whether or not it works.

For me Jimmy is another planet all together I know he is part of the O and A family and third mic but I think of O and A just another stop on Jimmy's rise to fame. Especially since he has been traveling so much and because him being a true comedian he can spin his life in a away that is impersonal when it's at it's most personal.

I don't know how to explain it but to me Jimmy is just a peach and I love him and his stories but his life reach further into himself and go to another place that you want to visit and explore.

Dave, Anthony, and Fez aren't like that with their personal stories. They are in your face with bragging or whoa or pain and it's not entertaining it becomes a burden. I actually know more about Casey's health issues then I do my relatives, who the fuck needs that running around in your head while listening to Ron and Fez. I don't want to be burdened or angered every time I turn on 202.

[Korda]

Here's what it is - when you totally lose confidence, oftentimes when you try to get it back you confuse being ultra-defensive with "not taking shit."

I love Fez. He's funny as hell when he's on, but he had his confidence shattered. 2 heart attacks and serious depression will do that to anyone. That said, he's going about getting his confidence back the wrong way, either by being mean in an unfunny way, or by refusing to allow a joke to be told about him.

[Korda]

Dave, Anthony, and Fez aren't like that with their personal stories. They are in your face with bragging or whoa or pain and it's not entertaining it becomes a burden. I actually know more about Casey's health issues then I do my relatives, who the fuck needs that running around in your head while listening to Ron and Fez. I don't want to be burdened or angered every time I turn on 202.

Check out Bob & Tom - you might like it. They do a hilarious bit where a chicken picks football games.

[hydee]

What do you think about the "treaty" prohibiting mention of Dave's family (whom Dave talks about) by Fez?

Also, please reconcile:

1. The rule that says wives are off-limits if they want to be

with

2. Dave's attack on Travis's wife, who isn't involved in any show

and

3. The rule that says a staffer can take shots at a host if some people think the shots are funny but the host can't take shots at that staffer's family no matter how funny they are

Also Casey is apart of Dave's career, she is the pimp for "Special Delivery" and she isn't a wife like Opie's and Ron's if she was like Opie's wife or Ron's wife targeting her or talking about her in any way should be off limits.

Damn for 6 months Her's and Dave's lives were the radio show. Through bachelor parties, weddings, engagement rings, and honeymoons, then with every kid they had.

[ShowerBench]

And its a big exception. When Ron makes fun of him and ESD laughs, Fez immediately attacks ESD. Its the same EXACT behavior Earl used to do. Ron could say anything, but he would always freak out on Dave.

What's wrong with a host refusing to tolerate a staffer busting his balls? Ron deals with it with a cowbell. Fez deals with it by calling out Dave on every breach.

This could all end, and end well for Dave, Fez, and Ron and Fez. Or it could end ugly.

Dave's attacks aren't important enough to the show to justify their consequences.

Fez obviously hasn't written off Dave completely because he hesitates when he's asked if he likes Dave. Sometimes he says he hates him, but usually qualifies it with a "today."

If Dave would go back to occupying his role as SUBORDINATE to Ron AND FEZ, Fez would get past the resentment because Fez wants to - he likes Dave.

What's more, if Fez is allowed to get back on top of his game, he'll have enough confidence not only to reconcile with Dave, but probably with Casey over time.

A Ron and Fez show with Ron, Fez, and Dave contributing and being funny isn't a lost cause, but it's getting close and Dave will be to blame if it doesn't work.

[Rob I]

What do you think about the "treaty" prohibiting mention of Dave's family (whom Dave talks about) by Fez?

Also, please reconcile:

1. The rule that says wives are off-limits if they want to be

with

2. Dave's attack on Travis's wife, who isn't involved in any show

and

3. The rule that says a staffer can take shots at a host if some people think the shots are funny but the host can't take shots at that staffer's family no matter how funny they are

oh alright I'll entertain this.

If Fez actually said comedic things towards Casey, which he has done in the past, I don't think Dave would have said stop talking about my wife. Fez read a tweet that in no way involved him and just attacked(not comedically, just a blatant attack). Since Dave and Casey's lives are both very involved with the show thru dave at work and casey on the boards they are definitely open to be made fun of. Fez didnt make fun at all he was just a dick. plain and simple.

I have never said the staffers wife cant be made fun of. just dont assume every single thing the girl does involves you fez. Fez has cracked wise plenty of times in the past at the kids and casey. he wasnt a complete dick with no justification b4(reading a tweet not about him but mr. ego thinks it is)

As for Lisa, Dave was just being the idiot. Lets also not forget who was with him on that,Fez......which he didnt turn around on until He read a tweet that didnt concern him.

[hydee]

Check out Bob & Tom - you might like it. They do a hilarious bit where a chicken picks football games.


I don't need dumb radio, I want entertainment without baggage and stupidity. I miss that from Ron and Fez.

[ShowerBench]

I don't think ESD knows what he is doing. ESD is extremely competitive and does not let up.

Dave is known to be a retard when it comes to human beings so that excuse probably applied early on. But he's not a complete idiot and Fez has spelled it out a thousand times. He needs to exercise a modicum (ew) of self control.

He obviously knows how to let up because he didn't used to attack hosts. The fact that he would see it as a legitimate "competition" is a problem in itself.

[benjamin]

If Fez really wants to get rid of Dave why couldn't he just do so?
Its his show.
This is a bit.

[hurlmon]

To be fair the "bit" has never been as deep as undermining fez's authority. I can remember fez ever taking such a consistent hammering from one of the shows staff. The openly laughing at his opinions and switching your own to suit your argument. It's an unpresedented situation in the shows history.

yeah they never openly laughed at him during "Here comes Fez with his opinions..."

[PD]

He obviously knows how to let up because he didn't used to attack hosts. The fact that he would see it as a legitimate "competition" is a problem in itself.

He's not attacking Fez any more than Jay Mohr was.

he was JOKING for chrissakes.

[Rob I]

He's not attacking Fez any more than Jay Mohr was.

he was JOKING for chrissakes.

You have to realize that there are only 2 people who are allowed to joke....Ron and Fez. anyone else who jokes is in on the plan, is a negative nancy and shouldn't post on this board because its RONFEZ.NET a fan site where no one can be objective about anything. everything that the hosts do is always great and always funny and if you disagree you should go somewhere else................sigh

[ShowerBench]

If Fez really wants to get rid of Dave why couldn't he just do so?
Its his show.
This is a bit.

Fez said today he appreciated most of Dave's contributions.

Fez has been a professional in this business since Dave was having dick swordfights in the back seat with his cousin. He doesn't have any problem acknowledging someone's radio skills.

[yeti1]

Enough is a enough..

It's clear Fez has a plan, and is out for Dave's third mic. Dave is a huge contributor to the show. From the speaker side, it's arguable that Dave brings as more than anyone else but Ronny himself. I think Fez is jealous of Dave's happiness, his job, and his family.

If anyone has a plan, it's Fez and his constant undermining of Dave.


:devil2:

Fez get help or leave, Your fucking the show up.:furious:

[Gvac]

Fez get help or leave, Your fucking the show up.:furious:

Nice try, Dave.

[dino_electropolis]

Guy above me is a bit paranoid.




Anyway, if fez wanted dave off, dave would be off....unless he's too indecisive to say so, if thats the case, then he's beyond help

[disneyspy]

Guy above me is a bit paranoid.




Anyway, if fez wanted dave off, dave would be off....unless he's too indecisive to say so, if thats the case, then he's beyond help

you're a bottom?

[dino_electropolis]

you're a bottom?

Thats Power Bottom, sir....

[disneyspy]

Thats Power Bottom, sir....

dont get your dick broke

[yeti1]

Time for fez to hit the road and let Dave and Ron get the groove on, called great radio! Fez look it up fucken whiner!

[Gvac]

Time for fez to hit the road and let Dave and Ron get the groove on, called great radio! Fez look it up fucken whiner!


I guess you really just joined the board today, huh?

This isn't a pseudonym for anyone, is it EastSideYeti?

[ShowerBench]

Nice try, Dave.

:thumbup:

[stormy1065]

I guess you really just joined the board today, huh?

This isn't a pseudonym for anyone, is it EastSideYeti?

Dave wouldn't know what a yeti was so it's proably yet I.......:bye:

[MustyHatchetwound]

Bring on the Posse!

[brettmojo]

Enough is a enough..

It's clear Fez has a plan, and is out for Dave's third mic. Dave is a huge contributor to the show. From the speaker side, it's arguable that Dave brings as more than anyone else but Ronny himself. I think Fez is jealous of Dave's happiness, his job, and his family.

If anyone has a plan, it's Fez and his constant undermining of Dave.


:devil2:
A lot more reasonable than anything Fez says.

[Hithead]

Dave and his wife and his spawn have no talent, and never will.

[Contra]

Dave and his wife and his spawn have no talent, and never will.

I have hope for Stanley. And if he were to fail, there is another...

[Stuft]

Dave and his wife and his spawn have no talent, and never will.

Profound. Really.

[MobCounty]

Profound. Really.

Pronoun. Him.

[Big_D]

i think both Dave and Fez need to kiss and make up this fued is bullshit just crack some jokes and make me laugh or so help me god i will gouge somebody's fuckin eye out!

[Timberframe]

Fez's Master plan?????

OK, I'm not a producer, but here is my common since observations.

I've been listening to the Ron and Fez show for a long time. It used to be bits, interviews, interesting discussions, intellectual yet humorous banter.............but now it has become the Ron Bennington Show with producers Fez and Dave who can't manage their own lives so how do you expect them to keep it together during the show. Here are the three steps to solving the issue and to get back to quality radio.

1. Dave, Keep it up. Get more sleep at home, pull out sooner, enough of the raise the fist show, and try not to chuckle at Ron's passive aggressive jokes at Fez's expense, but I can still laugh at them. Show up early........

2. Fez - come completely out of the closet. All the way out - and you will be free of the ties that bind you. But get some thicker skin and grow some balls. The jokes and current events that get you upset would have never bothered you in years past. If your going to come out in the flamboyant way that I would imagine, you better get a little tougher. I love you Fez,

3. Earl - please come back and book some guest, praise the lord( holy, holy, holy), I cant believe I am asking Earl to come back, but anything to get the family back on track.


If Something doesn't happen, we are going to be listening to the Ron Bennington Show with EP Pepper Hicks.

[daminik]

i cant believe people think fez right in all this. If anyone thinks that, YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!! dave talks because he has a good point of view about things and he knows what he's talking about. his bits have nothing to do with fez but when fez acts stupid and says something stupid, dave runs with it by creating a bit. He knows what he's doing, by creating those bits makes good radio. Please anyone tell me when fez was better than dave recently. Every fucking person that goes against dave doesnt give anything that shows fez is better and contributes to the show positively. Watley pussys dont know what they are talking about. BOOOOYAAAAA!

[ShowerBench]

i cant believe people think fez right in all this. If anyone thinks that, YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!! dave talks because he has a good point of view about things

Well, you turned ME around

[daminik]

Well, you turned ME around

thanks for your sarcasm, doesnt matter i except it.:thumbup:

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Here's the deal.

Fez is going to hire Richard Vos.

Vos's act will kill David.

This joke was dead before it was even born.

[Hammond Eggars]

Dave is known to be a retard when it comes to human beings so that excuse probably applied early on. But he's not a complete idiot and Fez has spelled it out a thousand times. He needs to exercise a modicum (ew) of self control.

He obviously knows how to let up because he didn't used to attack hosts. The fact that he would see it as a legitimate "competition" is a problem in itself.

Dave acts on instinct, he has no ability to be calculated. He's a jock/bully at heart--he can't be around someone who displays weakness or vulnerability and not attack. He senses that he's gained an upper hand now, so it's next to impossible to hold himself back.

[Zark]

I am so fuckin tired of the Fez homers. You guys are out of your fucking minds as much as Fez is. Dave continues to help ron have someone to interact with. If he werent there Ron would eventually go bat shit insane because his cohost has forgotten how to do radio. You stick up for Fez so much you think now Dave cant even laugh at a Fez joke anymore, yet you dont even consider that only Ron can instigate everything, talk down to Fez all the time(not buying his bullshit EP excuse), make fun of Fez every second he gets. Fez on the other hand lets it all happen and bitches and wines and complains when ANYONE (O&A, Jay Mohr etc..) bust his balls. He has become a person who doesnt get comedy one bit at all. he used to be great at it. not anymore. Dave I wish you would just say "you know what I staying off mic for a month" just to show everyone that fez needs to relearn how to do radio again and Ronnie will go nuts not having anyone to interact with

What you said. Amen.

[disneyspy]

What you said. Amen.

there no praying in messageboards!

[stormy1065]

Dave is a dog on ronnie b`s lease. If ron didn't want it to go on he could shut it down

[esdhater]

Dave is a dog on ronnie b`s lease. If ron didn't want it to go on he could shut it down


Exactly. Ron is the puppet master and anyone who thinks this shit could happen on-air without his full approval is just stupid. If you people want to blame (or credit) anybody for this on going radio feud look straight at Mr. B.

[RENFIELD]

we need earl back
so fez can feel superior to someone...

dave is like a son to ron...

and fez is using dave like dave is ron's new girlfriend,
and is jealous...


and then he'll blame dave for making me think this way...geesh..

did fez paint himself into a corner or what ?

[I Like Fez]

My proposal:

Keep Dave off the mic for a full week. That'll force Fez to talk and he, hopefully, will feel less threatened by Dave's presence in the studio. Listen to the replays over the past week. You'll see Dave agree with almost everything Ron says and Dave immediately steps over Fez to agree with Ron. With my plan, Fez will be able to relax and feel unburdened to contribute to the show.

It's hilarious to see all these Dave supporters. He's not funny. He's just a wacky stunt guy who has no business having mic time on this show. He has Special Delivery. Let him get mic time and on-air experience there.

So - Dave off the mic for a week. He's a producer...so, let him produce.

[Hammond Eggars]

My proposal:

Keep Dave off the mic for a full week. That'll force Fez to talk and he, hopefully, will feel less threatened by Dave's presence in the studio. Listen to the replays over the past week. You'll see Dave agree with almost everything Ron says and Dave immediately steps over Fez to agree with Ron. With my plan, Fez will be able to relax and feel unburdened to contribute to the show.

It's hilarious to see all these Dave supporters. He's not funny. He's just a wacky stunt guy who has no business having mic time on this show. He has Special Delivery. Let him get mic time and on-air experience there.

So - Dave off the mic for a week. He's a producer...so, let him produce.

Either that or let Ronnie sit out for a bit. Force the two of them to sit and work off each other and figure out how to respect each other, instead of fighting for the big dog's approval all the time. That morning Ron forgot his pass card Fez suddenly turned into a motormouth. Maybe the two of them could come to an understanding if left alone long enough. Could make for some epically uncomfortable radio either way.

[I Like Fez]

Fez made a good point when he brought up the fact that anytime Dave says something he ALWAYS looks to Ron for his approval. Ron is the father Dave never had...and Dave's bullshit is killing the show.

It's so obvious that Dave thinks he's on-air talent. He's not. Dave is a mic hog who doesn't fit in, on-air, with the daily going-ons of the Ron and Fez show. Dave is a producer...and he doesn't produce much now that he's trying to take over Fez's seat.

Fez needs to butch up and smack down that pink skinned fucker for all the pain he's caused. That pizza bullshit should have been cause for Dave to be fired.

[sailor]

Fez made a good point when he brought up the fact that anytime Dave says something he ALWAYS looks to Ron for his approval. Ron is the father Dave never had...and Dave's bullshit is killing the show.

dave has a father, snappy.

[I Like Fez]

dave has a father, snappy.

Way to be Get the Metaphor Guy, shitdick.

[sailor]

Way to be Get the Metaphor Guy, shitdick.

now, now, sweetheart, can't we all be friends?

[underdog]

now, now, sweetheart, can't we all be friends?

I miss Get The Metaphor Guy.

[sailor]

I miss Get The Metaphor Guy.

exactly.

[ShowerBench]

Fez made a good point when he brought up the fact that anytime Dave says something he ALWAYS looks to Ron for his approval. Ron is the father Dave never had...and Dave's bullshit is killing the show.

It's so obvious that Dave thinks he's on-air talent. He's not. Dave is a mic hog who doesn't fit in, on-air, with the daily going-ons of the Ron and Fez show. Dave is a producer...and he doesn't produce much now that he's trying to take over Fez's seat.

Fez needs to butch up and smack down that pink skinned fucker for all the pain he's caused. That pizza bullshit should have been cause for Dave to be fired.

:thumbup:

Good point about "doesn't fit in." That show has never run on stupid, and stupid more than anything else is what Dave brings. Funny now and then, and Dave is good at it, but too much with the "antics" and you veer into zoo territory.

As far as Fez firing Dave or cutting his mic time, Camp Dave ought to give Fezzie some credit for dealing with it in a less radical way thus far. Fez the professional obviously appreciates what Dave does bring and would rather try to restore the show's previous dynamic instead of getting rid of him.