Enough Time Has Passed, SIRIUS BLOWS!!!!!

[lleeder]

We all waited for the merger to pass through but lets just come right out and say it SIRIUS BLOWS!!! Today Ron said that when he and Fez did the show this past midnight there were callers that didn't know O&A were even on the service!!!! What the fuck is that? Do any of you not know about Howard being available on XM. Get Ron and Fez and Opie and Anthony some promotion. Do you want this satellite thing to catch on? Or are you only concerned about one channel? SIRIUS BLOWS. XM 4 LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marc with a c]

are people really still comparing o&a to stern in terms of popularity?

[danner1515]

I'm still mad that Fred was replaced by that shitty 1st Wave station.

[sailor]

We all waited for the merger to pass through but lets just come right out and say it SIRIUS BLOWS!!! Today Ron said that when he and Fez did the show this past midnight there were callers that didn't know O&A were even on the service!!!! What the fuck is that? Do any of you not know about Howard being available on XM. Get Ron and Fez and Opie and Anthony some promotion. Do you want this satellite thing to catch on? Or are you only concerned about one channel? SIRIUS BLOWS. XM 4 LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!

for reals, yo!

[lleeder]

are people really still comparing o&a to stern in terms of popularity?

No but people should at least know of their existence. You didn't even know Opie was behind you when you said that you hated him. If that was Stern you would have known he was there.

[lleeder]

I'm still mad that Fred was replaced by that shitty 1st Wave station.

I agree 1st Wave from Brooklyn makes no sense!!!!

[Marc with a c]

No but people should at least know of their existence. You didn't even know Opie was behind you when you said that you hated him. If that was Stern you would have known he was there.

opie's wife is hotter. there's a comparison opie wins.

[sailor]

opie's wife is hotter. there's a comparison opie wins.

cuter nose.

[Marc with a c]

cuter nose.

shit, i'd rather fuck your nose than hers.

[underdog]

The music channels are awful. Every fucking dj has to talk between the songs and "hit the post". It's really annoying.

But Sirius is run by radio guys, of course its going to sound like regular radio.

[IamFogHat]

Enough time has passed? I've been furious at Sirius for many many reasons since the fucking merger went through. Where have you been?

[underdog]

Enough time has passed? I've been furious at Sirius for many many reasons since the fucking merger went through. Where have you been?

In a lunch truck.

[Marc with a c]

there might not be an extra hour of ron and fez without the merger. so from where i stand sirius is okay with me.

[realmenhatelife]

I'm all Fuck Sirius

The music stations are staggeringly bad, but the rotation is smaller so you hear the exact same song sequences.

[strawberrypop]

there might not be an extra hour of ron and fez without the merger. so from where i stand sirius is okay with me.

But is it the extra hour that's killing it? Is 4 hours just too damn long for them to be together?

[newport king]

I'm still mad that Fred was replaced by that shitty 1st Wave station.

hoo,hoo. tell 'em 1st wave!

[tanless1]

soul town is way better than soulstreet ever dreamed of being.

[paracetamol flanders]

I'm still mad that Fred was replaced by that shitty 1st Wave station.

XM in a coma I know, I know, it's Sirius...

[Gvac]

XM FOR LIFE!!!

[mikeyboy]

so from where i stand sirius is okay with me.

Pennsylvania?

[earthbrown]

I'm all Fuck Sirius

The music stations are staggeringly bad, but the rotation is smaller so you hear the exact same song sequences.

fuck listen to lithium for 2 hours, guaranteed to hear a repeat song, you usually hear a repeat artist within an hour.


K

[Marc with a c]

Pennsylvania?

PA loves sirius!

[OGC]

I tried to have an open mind as far as the music channels goes, and have come to the conclusion that they now suck. The playlists have shrunk so much that you hear repeats all the time.

I rarely listen to anything but 202 or baseball anymore.

[sailor]

Enough time has passed? I've been furious at Sirius for many many reasons since the fucking merger went through. Where have you been?

where's your thread? thanks lleeder for caring enough to put out what we have all been thinking lo, these many months.

[DolaMight]

I wanted to be fair and give it some time before judging the new service.

The music is now completely like what I didn't like about Sirius pre-merger. Mass appeal, more repeats, less artists, no more deep cuts. It sounds like regular radio. On my phone I don't even bother with XM now, I just listen to internet radio to get what I want.

I lost several channels outright or only to have them replaced by a merger of two or more genres just playing the hits. Oh I shot the sherrif, haven't heard this since yesterday.

For 202 I had hoped they'd be included on both XM and Sirius doubling their potential audience and then in turn improving the quality of the callers. No and they don;t even promote 202 on Sirius for those who might want to subscribe.

What matters to me is the studio stinks, when guests come in and 99% never heard of O&A and R&F the old studio at least wowed them into maybe thinking these guys deserved respect. Now they're in a tiny office studio no bigger than the 100% music channels. It must be embarrassing, Sirius should do the right thing and knock down at least one wall.

I can't think of one thing I like better about the merger. It's defiantly a takeover and they're just waiting for all things XM to disappear. If it wasn't for 202 I'd think I was subscribed to Sirius.

And get Jason Ellis off the channel, it's embarrassing to have such a forced humor hacky amateur sharing the channel with Ron.

[Picasso Intern]

They spent a lot of money on Howard, so it's in the best interest of the people who approved his deal that he's perceived as being the biggest thing on either platform, and doing whatever they can to make that a reality. Since every show & station on the best of XM package probably doesn't add up to a third of what the Stern show is costing, those people would rather hurt the company a little by not selling too many of them, rather than making money for the company, but looking like assholes by selling more of them.

[Brad_Rush]

And get Jason Ellis off the channel, it's embarrassing to have such a forced humor hacky amateur sharing the channel with Ron.

Thank you! I really tried to like that show for a few weeks, but it is just horrible. Even the promo's for the show evoke douche-chills.

[Crispy123]

Thank you! I really tried to like that show for a few weeks, but it is just horrible. Even the promo's for the show evoke douche-chills.

Sirius sucks with the exception of Jason Ellis. If you don't get the guy thats because your a weak minded faggot. No big deal just dont listen.

[RENFIELD]

I'm only in this satellite radio thing for
1 and a half shows... on 202

the sirius changes to MY show are mostly subtle...
and I have to deal with it..

MY show goes.. I have no further need for satellite radio...
I'm not sure if I remember how to change the channel...

and howard WAS great.. .then it turned to 1995 !!!
he could have gone out a legend...

[STC-Dub]

But is it the extra hour that's killing it? Is 4 hours just too damn long for them to be together?

They were doing longer than 4 hours if you count the after show meetings.

[IMSlacker]

I think we should give it more time.

Let's not be hasty.

[brettmojo]

We all waited for the merger to pass through but lets just come right out and say it SIRIUS BLOWS!!! Today Ron said that when he and Fez did the show this past midnight there were callers that didn't know O&A were even on the service!!!! What the fuck is that? Do any of you not know about Howard being available on XM. Get Ron and Fez and Opie and Anthony some promotion. Do you want this satellite thing to catch on? Or are you only concerned about one channel? SIRIUS BLOWS. XM 4 LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!
I concur.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

Looking back at re-upping my sub for a year back in March, I guess I'm OK with it now. Was kinda on the fence at first, but hey it only costs less than 50 cents a day and I have definitely gotten a lot of entertainment value out of it. But the merger... meh. I prefer pre-merger XM. All the corporate bullshit aside, I really don't see what was in it for me as a consumer. Big waste of time and money if you ask me. Two competing companies would have kept each other sharp and trying to out-do each other.

[cpontani]

Since they moved, no more audience in the bleachers. That sucks.

[robot artist]

The changes to the music channels don't bother me because I don't listen to any of them - with the exception of Little Steven's Underground Garage, and Bob Dylan's Theme Time Radio Show. I really only listen to satellite radio for R+F, O+A, and Stern.

My biggest problem is the takeover of the 202 weekend shows with the 'best of the week' format. Used to be, if you missed a show during the week, you could catch it on the weekend in it's entirety. Now the weekend shows are no longer there to reward the faithful listeners, but rather to entice new listeners to tune in during the week.

Understandable as a marketing tool, but a pain in the ass for me.

[Lady Resin]

My biggest problem is the takeover of the 202 weekend shows with the 'best of the week' format. Used to be, if you missed a show during the week, you could catch it on the weekend in it's entirety. Now the weekend shows are no longer there to reward the faithful listeners, but rather to entice new listeners to tune in during the week.

Understandable as a marketing tool, but a pain in the ass for me.

X2:sad:

[I Like Fez]

No one knows Opie and Anthony outside of New England. They're a regional act. Stern, Martha Stewart, Dylan, Oprah, MLB, NFL, Bob Edwards - all national brands with national followings.

O&A are minor league talent who had their cup of coffee in the big leagues from time to time. The production of Stern's show is light years better than the amateur hires on the O&A staff.

[underdog]

No one knows Opie and Anthony outside of New England. They're a regional act. Stern, Martha Stewart, Dylan, Oprah, MLB, NFL, Bob Edwards - all national brands with national followings.

O&A are minor league talent who had their cup of coffee in the big leagues from time to time. The production of Stern's show is light years better than the amateur hires on the O&A staff.

The budget on the Stern show ($500mil) is also much much more than the O&A budget (not $500mil).

[biggestmexi]

No one knows Opie and Anthony outside of New England.

i live in il...............?

[I Like Fez]

i live in il...............?

Way to be Get The Point Guy...:wallbash:

[I Like Fez]

The budget on the Stern show ($500mil) is also much much more than the O&A budget (not $500mil).

O&A have the money to pay for higher quality producers. They don't consider production to be an integral part of their show's success and it's evident in the lack of quality from The Opie and Anthony Show. The best part of O&A are when new comedians come in. Norton, Opie, and Anthony have a tired, predictable act.

Now, back to Ron and Fez...

[biggestmexi]

Way to be Get The Point Guy...:wallbash:

by point do you mean worthless attempt to attack something with a stupid comment that really means NOTHING at all.

most of my posts outside of MPW are facts. you should try to do the same. its makes arguments more relevant.

then people wont pass over your half ass statements.

[I Like Fez]

by point do you mean worthless attempt to attack something with a stupid comment that really means NOTHING at all.

You mean like what you just did?

most of my posts outside of MPW are facts. you should try to do the same. its makes arguments more relevant.

Such as?


then people wont pass over you half ass statements.

Learn proper English...

[biggestmexi]

You mean like what you just did?

if you consider your self a something

Such as?

they FACT that i live in IL, not new england


Learn proper English...

i dont need to in order to make your post worthless. thats how bad it is.

... what?

thats not proper. cant figure out how to make a statement so you use ... as an easy out.

sickening.

[TjM]

X2:sad:

I also hate the back to back best of. Can't they play some classic O&A after the worst of the week

[underdog]

O&A have the money to pay for higher quality producers. They don't consider production to be an integral part of their show's success and it's evident in the lack of quality from The Opie and Anthony Show. The best part of O&A are when new comedians come in. Norton, Opie, and Anthony have a tired, predictable act.

Now, back to Ron and Fez...

Ron and Fez can't even hire an EP, and you think O&A have tons of money to hire staff?

Stern's staff has also been with him forever. Not so with O&A.

[I Like Fez]

if you consider your self a something
they FACT that i live in IL, not new england
i dont need to in order to make your post worthless. thats how bad it is.
... what?
thats not proper. cant figure out how to make a statement so you use ... as an easy out.
sickening.

I have no idea what you're saying.

O&A's fanbase is, and always will be, in New England. You're the exception to the proven rule.

Run along to your truck or whatever low paying job you may or may not currently enjoy...

[I Like Fez]

Ron and Fez can't even hire an EP, and you think O&A have tons of money to hire staff?

Fire the dead weight and hire an EP. Problem solved.

[biggestmexi]

I have no idea what you're saying.

O&A's fanbase is, and always will be, in New England. You're the exception to the proven rule.

Run along to your truck or whatever low paying job you may or may not currently enjoy...

was that fun...for you?

[underdog]

I have no idea what you're saying.

O&A's fanbase is, and always will be, in New England. You're the exception to the proven rule.

Run along to your truck or whatever low paying job you may or may not currently enjoy...

O&A are huge with truckers, outside of New England.

They were syndicated all over the Northeast, so it only makes sense that that is where their main fanbase would be.

[underdog]

Fire the dead weight and hire an EP. Problem solved.

They got rid of the dead weight, and they still cannot hire an EP.

But good way of just side stepping the original "point" you made.

[biggestmexi]

O&A are huge with truckers, outside of New England.

They were syndicated all over the Northeast, so it only makes sense that that is where their main fanbase would be.

Ron and Fez can't even hire an EP, and you think O&A have tons of money to hire staff?

Stern's staff has also been with him forever. Not so with O&A.

I have no idea what you're saying.
enjoy...

i helped a bit.

[I Like Fez]

O&A are huge with truckers, outside of New England.

Prove it.

They were syndicated all over the Northeast, so it only makes sense that that is where their main fanbase would be.

...and they failed miserably when they went to places like Pittsburgh and Cleveland.

[I Like Fez]

They got rid of the dead weight, and they still cannot hire an EP.

But good way of just side stepping the original "point" you made.

Danny, Sam, and E-Rock are dead weight. Fire them, hire an EP with a full time assistant producer, and you'd have a higher quality show for the same amount of money...or less.

[Death Metal Moe]

Why did this turn into yet ANOTHER thread to bash O&A? They're a national show, they were on WNEW and they were recently until the entire face of FM radio changed. That's documented. If you don't like them, don't listen.

The point was, O&A are the high profile XM edgy talk show and a Sirius listener didn't know they were even available due to the merger. Sirius loves Stern, there's no denying that. And maybe they should. But O&A are one of their commodities, why aren't they trying to use them to get more money from Sirius subscribers. Christ, we know PLENTY about Stern over on the XM platform. You couldn't get away from his commercials when they were really pushing the "Best of Sirius" bullshit. It all just ends up sounding like the old days when Mel loved Howard and shit on O&A. So far the show hasn't suffered that much but it makes me very nervous.

And I was bitching about the horrible Sirius music channels years before the merger. I heard them and shut them the fuck off in favor of FM, they suck. It's JUST like an FM station, but really worse. There's huge 5 minute talk blocks of whatever washed up DJ they have on at that time. Martha Quinn went on for like 7 minutes once in between songs on their 80's station. Why do I want to hear that? At least I know at the end of a short FM commercial break I'll go right back into music.

The merger was 100% hostile take over. Sirius stamped out everything XM that they could and gave us the Sirius product like it was equal, which it wasn't.

IF they ever drop ROn and Fez or O&A I'm gone. Period, I don't need the rest of their bullshit.

[underdog]

Prove it.

Listen to the commercials on 202 and the awful calls they take.

...and they failed miserably when they went to places like Pittsburgh and Cleveland.

They did? I thought they did pretty well in Cleveland. All their comics sell out their shows there, too. They have a strong following there.

Danny, Sam, and E-Rock are dead weight. Fire them, hire an EP with a full time assistant producer, and you'd have a higher quality show for the same amount of money...or less.

They can't fire people. Haven't you listened to all the shit that has gone down with their current EP? They have no control over who works for them.

[CentralParkBest]

XM Chill was my 2nd favorite channel, since the merger, I cannot tolerate it.

Regarding RnF,
way back in WNEW days we had drinking show at least every Friday then a couple more throughout the month, emensely entertaining.
then comes xm where the drinking shows are fewer but still hugely entertaining
now with the merger, no drinking shows.
Love Ron, need Fez and Dave to drink and ChriStanley to be the curmudgeon he always is

Lift a 40 yo.

[danner1515]

.
And I was bitching about the horrible Sirius music channels years before the merger. I heard them and shut them the fuck off in favor of FM, they suck. It's JUST like an FM station, but really worse. There's huge 5 minute talk blocks of whatever washed up DJ they have on at that time. Martha Quinn went on for like 7 minutes once in between songs on their 80's station. Why do I want to hear that? At least I know at the end of a short FM commercial break I'll go right back into music.

Yeah, I could have sworn that one of the original selling points for satellite radio was not having a bunch of DJs babbling in between songs. Does anyone actually want to hear that shit?

[boosterp]

I did away with my subs not long after the merger, the music channels are what I listened to when they were replaying the O&A show or on the weekend when the same old shit was being replayed. I favored Audible and Paltalk (although I hate it now) to listen and still do.

Fuck Sirius, fuck Mel and fuck Hoo Hoo.

[S0S]

Still, the move to Sirius has only happened very recently. So far the adjustments to the new setting and management seem to be still in effect. As I see it, it could be worse, with the possible bankruptcy/buying of XM, but the hand-holding by management is really hindering the shows potential. I also miss the live audience and the rowdiness of them being
basically to themselves. The shake-up in the staffs also has made a big effect on the shows. Also with the political and economic climate, people attuned to partisan politics have become inundated with political news instead of light news which has, it seems, and which has turned them off.

[underdog]

Yeah, I could have sworn that one of the original selling points for satellite radio was not having a bunch of DJs babbling in between songs. Does anyone actually want to hear that shit?

Radio guys think people do.

It was like when Opie complained the other day that the music channels on XM didn't play enough "popular" music, so he's glad it changed on Sirius. Why would someone want to pay for a service to hear the exact same music they hear on regular radio?

[danner1515]

Radio guys think people do.

It was like when Opie complained the other day that the music channels on XM didn't play enough "popular" music, so he's glad it changed on Sirius. Why would someone want to pay for a service to hear the exact same music they hear on regular radio?

Yeah, it seems like the features that made satellite radio an appealing alternative to FM have really faded since I started listening to XM three years ago. I wonder how much longer it will be before Sirius starts selling ad time on music channels.

[Death Metal Moe]

Yeah, it seems like the features that made satellite radio an appealing alternative to FM have really faded since I started listening to XM three years ago. I wonder how much longer it will be before Sirius starts selling ad time on music channels.

Mel needs a raise and to resign Howie, so not long.

I felt XM was a nice mix of popular songs you'd recognize with a deep cut that occasionally made you look at the screen to see what it was. In other words, very different than FM and worth paying for.

Now, not so much. If 202 gets fucked with I'm out.

[K.C.]

Pretty much everything I listen to is an XM holdover.

-202
-MLB package
-XMU (now called SiriusXMU, but it's still the same channel)
-Deep Tracks
-The Loft
-Bluesville


To be honest, I listen to none of the Sirius content, except OCCASIONALLY, I'll flip on Mad Dog's show.

But even the stations they took over and filled with Sirius people, like Lucy (now Litihum), Ethel (now Alt Nation), and Fred (now 1st Wave) are all horrendous. The playlists absolutely suck since the merger.

I'll probably never cancel as long as they have MLB, but it would be a serious test of my resolve if they booted 202, or the boys left on their own.

[Aqualad]

Fungus 53 used to be my favorite channel (behind 202 of course)- punk from the 70's-today, with healthy doses of ska, rockabilly, and surf. The Sirius equivalent is just unlistenable. How exactly does Slipknot fit the format?

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

I despise Jose from Liquid Metal. XM's Katie Brutal way better. Sirius DJs just babble nonstop about crap...if I wanted to hear pointless musings I'd just switch back to FM.

[DolaMight]

Radio guys think people do.

It was like when Opie complained the other day that the music channels on XM didn't play enough "popular" music, so he's glad it changed on Sirius. Why would someone want to pay for a service to hear the exact same music they hear on regular radio?

Yes that bothered me too. With Opie's shitty taste (90's commercial grunge, Zep, and Cinderella... pretend you hate bad pop songs only to say it's kinda catchy so it's on my ipod.... repeat) approving of the new sirius formats proved to me XM is dead.

Before I felt like I could flip around and discover something new. Now.... No way, no how, fuck that.

I go to soul and it's Aretha Franklin or Lutheran Vandross. Where's Joe Tex? Swamp Dog? no room for you anymore.

[underdog]

Yes that bothered me too. With Opie's shitty taste (90's commercial grunge, Zep, and Cinderella... pretend you hate bad pop songs only to say it's kinda catchy so it's on my ipod.... repeat) approving of the new sirius formats proved to me XM is dead.

Before I felt like I could flip around and discover something new. Now.... No way, no how, fuck that.

I go to soul and it's Aretha Franklin or Lutheran Vandross. Where's Joe Tex? Swamp Dog? no room for you anymore.

He used to complain that Deep Tracks were "too deep". I can't even understand that.

Now, you can hear "Whole Lotta Love" on Deep Tracks.

[sarsbusdriver]

I love Opie, but his music tastes are weak.
He's a former grunge DJ whose idol is Kurt Kobain, a guy probably younger than him.
He likes Cold Play and watches American Idol.
He's not to be taken seriously when it comes to music.

[realmenhatelife]

He used to complain that Deep Tracks were "too deep". I can't even understand that.

Now, you can hear "Whole Lotta Love" on Deep Tracks.


It used to blow my mind when he would say shit like that. Now Opie feels really good about himself because he likes Vampire Weekend.

[Rob I]

Why did this turn into yet ANOTHER thread to bash O&A? They're a national show, they were on WNEW and they were recently until the entire face of FM radio changed. That's documented. If you don't like them, don't listen.

The point was, O&A are the high profile XM edgy talk show and a Sirius listener didn't know they were even available due to the merger. Sirius loves Stern, there's no denying that. And maybe they should. But O&A are one of their commodities, why aren't they trying to use them to get more money from Sirius subscribers. Christ, we know PLENTY about Stern over on the XM platform. You couldn't get away from his commercials when they were really pushing the "Best of Sirius" bullshit. It all just ends up sounding like the old days when Mel loved Howard and shit on O&A. So far the show hasn't suffered that much but it makes me very nervous.

And I was bitching about the horrible Sirius music channels years before the merger. I heard them and shut them the fuck off in favor of FM, they suck. It's JUST like an FM station, but really worse. There's huge 5 minute talk blocks of whatever washed up DJ they have on at that time. Martha Quinn went on for like 7 minutes once in between songs on their 80's station. Why do I want to hear that? At least I know at the end of a short FM commercial break I'll go right back into music.

The merger was 100% hostile take over. Sirius stamped out everything XM that they could and gave us the Sirius product like it was equal, which it wasn't.

IF they ever drop ROn and Fez or O&A I'm gone. Period, I don't need the rest of their bullshit.

Agreed sir. Honestly if I get to hear O&A and R&F for another 2 years I am considering myself lucky. I have zero faith that this company cares two shits about either show. granted they are still on air for a reason but the zero support is absurd. No EP for 8 months and no respect for the highest rated show on xm doesnt leave me feeling comfortable in the slightest.

and yes the music is absolute dog shit. the rotations are just like fm now its just sad

[IslandStorm]

I tried to have an open mind as far as the music channels goes, and have come to the conclusion that they now suck. The playlists have shrunk so much that you hear repeats all the time.

I rarely listen to anything but 202 or baseball anymore.

I agree whole-heartedly. Since Sirius took over, I rarely listen to music channels anymore...the deejays suck and they talk over every song with their stupid music facts, etc.

Mine stays on 202...and occasionally the baseball and comedy channels.

[JustJon]

I only have XM Online, and I only use it to listen to 202. If there was music channels I liked, I might still listen to them, but I have last.fm, pandora, etc. to listen to.

[lleeder]

I only have XM Online, and I only use it to listen to 202. If there was music channels I liked, I might still listen to them, but I have last.fm, pandora, etc. to listen to.

they make songs about legos?

[genericbus]

I'm still mad that Fred was replaced by that shitty 1st Wave station.

ME TOO!!!!
I randomly call and complain about the poor programming choices. Does no good, but make me feel better.

[genericbus]

XM in a coma I know, I know, it's Sirius...

Desperate, but not sirius...

[RENFIELD]

The production of Stern's show is light years better than the amateur hires on the O&A staff.


THAT is actually my problem with Stern... (that and his 4 months vacation every year)

The lack-of-production, the lack-of-glossy-ness, is what I enjoy...

When Howard got happy (divorced, horse-faced girlfriend, living-the-life) he started to suck, big time... SLICK PRODUCTION? that's not what it's all about...
Imus had his day, Stern had his day (I loved them both)... live in the past? go ahead.. just don't think of yourself as a groundbreaker...

and the way they make use of re-runs.. I'm sure you could get-up-to-speed with Howard going-ons in a very short time... ad nauseum in fact...


ON SIRIUS... WEEKEND NON-REPLAYS ? I MISS THEM ALOT
(ron and fez is THE show anyway)

[K.C.]

I only have XM Online, and I only use it to listen to 202. If there was music channels I liked, I might still listen to them, but I have last.fm, pandora, etc. to listen to.

The playlists on Pandora and Slacker are weak.

Now, granted, they're free (for now anyway), and if you want to hear something specific, you can just plug in the band, but as someone who has sat and listened to Pandora for quite a while, when you just leave a station on, the playlists are pretty uninspired.

Now, Sirius has gotten substantial tighter with their playlists on a lot of stations, but still offer fairly deep ones on a few of the XM holdovers.

I will say that I wouldn't pay for Sirius's music channels if it was just that vs. Pandora, because it's not that big a gap to justifiy the cost, but I do think Sirius is a little better.