Will friday be Dave's last day?

[lleeder]

The weeks and weeks of speculation seem to building twards an exit of Dave from the show. Franklyn going after him today. Fred likely going after him thursday. Will he return from the vacation?

[Howard Stern]

Hope so. I could use a good guy on my show.

Hoo Hoo

[Patient zer0]

Hope so. I could use a good guy on my show.

Hoo Hoo
Oh don laroe won't you ever learn?

[Patient zer0]

What else would he do?

[paulisded]

There are sure a lot of 'tards around here these days.

For fuck's sake, disagreeing with Fez does not make you "anti-Fez".

Now we have all of the worst callers (Striker, MLC, etc.) whining their little sob stories because they don't get the respect that they think they deserve. Fuck those assholes.

[BlackFan]

Special Delivery With Sam And Dave!!!!!! ^^

[spoon]

There are sure a lot of 'tards around here these days.

For fuck's sake, disagreeing with Fez does not make you "anti-Fez".

Now we have all of the worst callers (Striker, MLC, etc.) whining their little sob stories because they don't get the respect that they think they deserve. Fuck those assholes.

Yet they continue to be enabled. Move the fuck on retards.

[HBox]

I'm surprised anyone is still listening. Bit or not I cannot stand it anymore.

[BlackFan]

i find it fun.

i watch tons of wrestling and it seems like a wrestling work.
like hulk hogan vs. macho man when the mega powers broke up.

it even says on fez's wikipedia page that he's known for bits that go on for LONG amounts of time. like wrestling works did in the 80s.
if dave gets fired i'm sure it'll be apart of the show,and he'll be fine.

[underdog]

There are sure a lot of 'tards around here these days.

For fuck's sake, disagreeing with Fez does not make you "anti-Fez".

Now we have all of the worst callers (Striker, MLC, etc.) whining their little sob stories because they don't get the respect that they think they deserve. Fuck those assholes.

I missed a striker call today? Oh man, I cannot wait to listen later. I'm sure its riveting and not full of lies.

[instrument]

I can't wait till ron finds fez with the cat eating his face.

Crazy old queen.

[knockknock]

Fez, lots of fans are turned off by your paranoia and conspiracies. It has nothing to do with Dave or Casey. It has everything to do with a natural reaction to crazy talk.

[lleeder]

I missed a striker call today? Oh man, I cannot wait to listen later. I'm sure its riveting and not full of lies.

he talked about trucking,politics and trucking politics

[underdog]

he talked about trucking,politics and trucking politics

Did he bring up hunting, or does only Eric from Colorado bring that stuff up?

[paulisded]

I missed a striker call today? Oh man, I cannot wait to listen later. I'm sure its riveting and not full of lies.

Yeah, according to him the Mean Girls are responsible for the negative reaction to his anti-Dave/Casey thread a few months ago. He's now a victim of the nonsensical McDonald conspiracy.

[Howard Stern]

There are sure a lot of 'tards around here these days.

For fuck's sake, disagreeing with Fez does not make you "anti-Fez".

Now we have all of the worst callers <S>(Striker,</S> MLC, <S>etc.)</S> whining their little sob stories because they don't get the respect that they think they deserve. Fuck those assholes.

Thats about right.

[ShowerBench]

Where's the "If he does Ron and Fez will lose some funny but it won't amount to much" option?

He's fucked himself by not joining Team Fez, much less stoking the Team Dave fires. Retard.

[ShowerBench]

Fez, lots of fans are turned off by your paranoia and conspiracies. It has nothing to do with Dave or Casey. It has everything to do with a natural reaction to crazy talk.

Did you hear Dave go off on FFB the other day?

Add today's tears - talk about a bit stealer

[paulisded]

Where's the "If he does Ron and Fez will lose some funny but it won't amount to much" option?

He's fucked himself by not joining Team Fez, much less stoking the Team Dave fires. Retard.

Your one-note gimmick stinks.

[ShowerBench]

I can't wait till ron finds fez with the cat eating his face.

Crazy old queen.

Exhibit A

[ShowerBench]

Your one-note gimmick stinks.

"I like Ron and FEZ"? Since when is that a gimmick at RONFEZ.net

[Patient zer0]

Lleeder your line to franklin had me loling

[paulisded]

"I like Ron and FEZ"? Since when is that a gimmick at RONFEZ.net

You know what I'm talking about, and I'm not going to go round and round with you again.

We all like Ron and Fez; that doesn't mean we have to agree with 100% of what either of them says. But the attitude from people like you is getting to be more and more like the O&A pests who demand complete and total agreement with anything they say.

[KingGeno]

Seems all the negativity for the show surrounds Dave and his family. Very weird.

[ShowerBench]

You know what I'm talking about, and I'm not going to go round and round with you again.

We all like Ron and Fez; that doesn't mean we have to agree with 100% of what either of them says. But the attitude from people like you is getting to be more and more like the O&A pests who demand complete and total agreement with anything they say.

What I know is that you don't want to define the "one note gimmick" because it would sound odd to "accuse" someone of being a fan of the show's hosts.

When did I say someone had to agree 100% with what either one says? I did say this thing has reached critical mass and that Dave as a staffer who participated actively and negligently, then did nothing to help himself or the Ron and Fez show when it became a problem, is the culprit

[SP1!]

Hope so. I could use a good guy on my show.

Hoo Hoo

Well hes a good stunt guy, you need a boy to eat shit for you? Then hes your man, need a informed and funny comment once a day? Then no, hes not gonna cut it.


Besides dave isnt going anywhere, nobody else would hire him and he has 3 mouths to feed.

[underdog]

Seems all the negativity for the show surrounds Dave and his family. Very weird.

Well, they are a bunch of jews and redheads, so it makes sense.

[Howard Stern]

Well hes a good stunt guy, you need a boy to eat shit for you? Then hes your man, need a informed and funny comment once a day? Then no, hes not gonna cut it.


Besides dave isnt going anywhere, nobody else would hire him and he has 3 mouths to feed.

No, dicknose. He's much more talented than that. He adds so much more to the show, most of it you probably can't hear.

Also, Leave his family the fuck out of this.

[paulisded]

What I know is that you don't want to define the "one note gimmick" because it would sound odd to "accuse" someone of being a fan of the show's hosts.

When did I say someone had to agree 100% with what either one says? I did say this thing has reached critical mass and that Dave as a staffer who participated actively and negligently, then did nothing to help himself or the Ron and Fez show when it became a problem, is the culprit

You're the one, more than anybody, who has promoted this idea that anybody who doesn't agree there's a McDonald conspiracy is automatically anti-Fez. And you've gone on and on about it, even coming up with the most insane theories to correlate to it.

[ShowerBench]

No, dicknose. He's much more talented than that. He adds so much more to the show, most of it you probably can't hear.

Also, Leave his family the fuck out of this.

He's an overall asset in a narrow area, but far from indispensable. Anyone can fill mic time in a less grating way, so really all he has is stunts and gimmicks.

He does bring up his own financial problems so why the double standard

[briarhawk]

Well hes a good stunt guy, you need a boy to eat shit for you? Then hes your man, need a informed and funny comment once a day? Then no, hes not gonna cut it.


Besides dave isnt going anywhere, nobody else would hire him and he has 3 mouths to feed.

Cant' blame the man for finding a niche...
No one else wants it.

[drjoek]

No, dicknose. He's much more talented than that. He adds so much more to the show, most of it you probably can't hear.

Also, Leave his family the fuck out of this.

Does anyone else see the irony in Howard Stern calling someone dicknose?

[lleeder]

Does anyone else see the irony in Howard Stern calling someone dicknose?

that might be the point. :wallbash:

[ShowerBench]

You're the one, more than anybody, who has promoted this idea that anybody who doesn't agree there's a McDonald conspiracy is automatically anti-Fez. And you've gone on and on about it, even coming up with the most insane theories to correlate to it.

Never said that. Said that anyone who thinks Fez's position amounts to insanity or paranoia is wrong. Gave reasons why - particularly that the first things to consider are Fez's position as a host and his personality combined with Dave's mocking and disrespecting behavior over a long period of time. And the insidious effects of Team Dave's participation here which he could have personally intervened in on Fez's behalf but had no interest in doing anything but fortifying Team Dave - thereby deepening the division.

[Howard Stern]

Does anyone else see the irony in Howard Stern calling someone dicknose?

http://www.popmag.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/fry-see-what-you-did-there1.jpg

[BlackFan]

although dave adds a lot to the show.
it takes fez out of the show.
i'm not saying its daves fault that fez won't speak up during HIS show,
but whenever dave isn't there fez is on point and funny
and into the show the whole way through.

but there are just things ron talks with dave about that he doesn't talk to fez about.

[briarhawk]

No, dicknose. He's much more talented than that. He adds so much more to the show, most of it you probably can't hear.

Also, Leave his family the fuck out of this.

I think he was pointing out Dave's being a responsible adult, not using them as a weapon.


This issue seems to polarize ppl. jeez.

[walker]

I'd vote for Lleeder to replace Dave, but we all know how bad he is in studio. I vote for Mikeyboy since he is now free to do as he pleases. We all know what a dynamic on-the-air presence he has....

[lleeder]

then why vote for me? seems like a wasted vote.

[Rob I]

This site would be 10000000000000 times better if no one responded to showerbench. WHY DO GUYS CONTINUE TO FEED HIM WE ALL KNOW WHERE HE STANDS ON EVERY ISSUE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY BEFORE HE POSTS :wallbash:

[SP1!]

No, dicknose. He's much more talented than that. He adds so much more to the show, most of it you probably can't hear.

Also, Leave his family the fuck out of this.

No, hes not more talented, his best bit is still the crazy shit eater and he adds nothing to the show besides making fez paranoid.

Funny everyone is fair game for him but some topics are off limits for his pansy ass, fuck dave

[ShowerBench]

although dave adds a lot to the show.
it takes fez out of the show.
i'm not saying its daves fault that fez won't speak up during HIS show,
but whenever dave isn't there fez is on point and funny
and into the show the whole way through.

but there are just things ron talks with dave about that he doesn't talk to fez about.

It's seemed more obvious lately that Dave could save himself but would rather claim ignorance or a constitutional lack of self control he can't manage.

Fez has been the stand-up one here. He laughs at ESD when he does or says something funny so it isn't about competition on Fez's part. He could cut Dave's mic completely any time. Today he allowed that he's not 100% glad that Dave has reached a critical level of frustration.

At the same time Fez isn't taking the blame for it because it isn't his fault. Dave could have turned this whole thing around easily with some intelligence, self control, and respect (the biggest fundamental issue). He's making insane choices to keep badgering Fez, if he does indeed love being the Ron and Fez producer.

Why did he say he would never mock Mr. B (even though he did), but left the door open to mocking Fez?

[walker]

No, hes not more talented, his best bit is still the crazy shit eater and he adds nothing to the show besides making fez paranoid.

Funny everyone is fair game for him but some topics are off limits for his pansy ass, fuck dave

Are you serious? Fez only contributes when the topic is gay marriage, pro wrestling, or of course...Fez. Dave may be stupid, but he knows a lot about movies, music, sports, basically everything that Ronnie is interested in talking about. The show needs Dave. He contributes 5 times as much as Fez. Fezzie is better suited for a EP role.....or jiz mopper.

[ShowerBench]

Are you serious? Fez only contributes when the topic is gay marriage, pro wrestling, or of course...Fez. Dave may be stupid, but he knows a lot about movies, music, sports, basically everything that Ronnie is interested in talking about. The show needs Dave. He contributes 5 times as much as Fez. Fezzie is better suited for a EP role.....or jiz mopper.

People who can talk about pop culture on the radio, can do it without annoying a large segment of the audience, and would kill to do it for next to nothing are a dime a dozen.

[CanadianDave]

I finally understand the problem. Dave has to deal with fucking new York self absorbed fucking pussies like fez and Franklin. Two guys who wouldn't last 10 minutes in a lockeroom or sports bar. Hard to be Fu my when your coworkers Are so goddamn soft. It's a real shame first Earl now Dave, instead of 4 guys having fun we are going to have ... What?

[Howard Stern]

Funny everyone is fair game for him but some topics are off limits for his pansy ass, fuck dave

:nono:

[TheGameHHH]

No

[Evolved]

It's seemed more obvious lately that Dave could save himself but would rather claim ignorance or a constitutional lack of self control he can't manage.

Fez has been the stand-up one here. He laughs at ESD when he does or says something funny so it isn't about competition on Fez's part. He could cut Dave's mic completely any time. Today he allowed that he's not 100% glad that Dave has reached a critical level of frustration.

At the same time Fez isn't taking the blame for it because it isn't his fault. Dave could have turned this whole thing around easily with some intelligence, self control, and respect (the biggest fundamental issue). He's making insane choices to keep badgering Fez, if he does indeed love being the Ron and Fez producer.

Why did he say he would never mock Mr. B (even though he did), but left the door open to mocking Fez?

We get it, Fez is God in your eyes. Your gimmick is really tiresome. It's the same thing over and over. It does nothing but lead to conflict. It's a damn radio show, there's no need to put this much time and consideration into it. It makes you look like a lunatic.

[ShowerBench]

I finally understand the problem. Dave has to deal with fucking new York self absorbed fucking pussies like fez and Franklin. Two guys who wouldn't last 10 minutes in a lockeroom or sports bar. Hard to be Fu my when your coworkers Are so goddamn soft. It's a real shame first Earl now Dave, instead of 4 guys having fun we are going to have ... What?

Ron and Fez and a couple other staffers who get their balls busted, same as it ever was

[ShowerBench]

We get it, Fez is God in your eyes. Your gimmick is really tiresome. It's the same thing over and over. It does nothing but lead to conflict. It's a damn radio show, there's no need to put this much time and consideration into it. It makes you look like a lunatic.

Defending a host of a show on the show's website "does nothing but lead to conflict."

I could rest my case right there.

[drjoek]

Defending a host of a show on the show's website "does nothing but lead to conflict."

I could rest my case right there.

Ok REST your case already.

We'll be here
Its not our last day in businees

[CanadianDave]

This might come as a shock to people on this board but for the majority of xm listeners around north America The Ron-fez show includes Dave,,,he has been there since we started listening. To me he is much more important than fez. No slam just the truth.. The interesting conversations come from Ron and Dave. If I want observational humor i will put on seinfeld

[Drunky McBetidont]

game show friday ends with spinning the hits:ohmy:

[ShowerBench]

This might come as a shock to people on this board but for the majority of xm listeners around north America The Ron-fez show includes Dave,,,he has been there since we started listening. To me he is much more important than fez. No slam just the truth.. The interesting conversations come from Ron and Dave. If I want observational humor i will put on seinfeld

:lol:

[BlackFan]

i know nothing about the off air stuff.
but their agreement sounds like dave wanted his family to stay off limits.
and fez has indirectly broken it but saying things like "mcdonald camp"
and throwing indirect jabs at casey.

and he constantly talks about the plan to nudge him off the show.
its pure lunacy.he just needs to take back his show. show dave who's prince shit (cuz ronnie is the king)and he needs to do it without ronnie giving him a pep talk.

when he yells at dave it doesn't even seem genuine,cuz he never yells at dave when he's really mad. he just mumbles and yammers about the plan and the "mcdonald camp"

[CanadianDave]

Do u need translation shower? 4 hours with your boy talking about line up etiquette, counting your change and how much mustard to pu on his corned beef will fucking stink

[ShowerBench]

Do u need translation shower? 4 hours with your boy talking about line up etiquette, counting your change and how much mustard to pu on his corned beef will fucking stink

Like I said, Dave can perform a "move it along" function but people who can yammer about movies and sports and music better than Dave are a dime a dozen. Ron's side of the topics is interesting and funny, Dave is largely a screaming motormouth bore (I agree with that...did you see the part where...")

His constant chomping at the bit to shriek out his next point more often than not runs over Ron's part and detracts from it.

Fez brings and has always brought Ron's humor and insight into higher relief. No one has ever worked better opposite Ronnie B. This ain't a zoo show.

[SP1!]

Are you serious? Fez only contributes when the topic is gay marriage, pro wrestling, or of course...Fez. Dave may be stupid, but he knows a lot about movies, music, sports, basically everything that Ronnie is interested in talking about. The show needs Dave. He contributes 5 times as much as Fez. Fezzie is better suited for a EP role.....or jiz mopper.
That has only started since dave has tried to supplant fez as on air personality, dave sucks and fez is 100 times better than dave ever dreamed of, it has also been proven the show is better when dave is not there and fez feels comfortable.

I finally understand the problem. Dave has to deal with fucking new York self absorbed fucking pussies like fez and Franklin. Two guys who wouldn't last 10 minutes in a lockeroom or sports bar. Hard to be Fu my when your coworkers Are so goddamn soft. It's a real shame first Earl now Dave, instead of 4 guys having fun we are going to have ... What?

Fez isnt a new yorker, your point is moot.

Fuck dave

[Evolved]

Defending a host of a show on the show's website "does nothing but lead to conflict."

I could rest my case right there.

Please do.

[BlackFan]

yeah but it's not the same. you hear fez in best ofs and you're like damn this is great.
and then you hear him now and he has 4 different personalities.

one second he's lets mother the world fez

next he's angry fez that just wants people locked up for minor things

then he's crying

then he's detective fez stomping out conspiracies against him.

everything but the fez we know and love. i honestly don't care because i like them all,but don't act like fez is still the same old fez.

[SP1!]

This might come as a shock to people on this board but for the majority of xm listeners around north America The Ron-fez show includes Dave,,,he has been there since we started listening. To me he is much more important than fez. No slam just the truth.. The interesting conversations come from Ron and Dave. If I want observational humor i will put on seinfeld

You need to do a simple google for the ron and fez show, maybe then you will realize how full of shit that post was

[hammersavage]

will you cunts please shut the fuck up.

[ShowerBench]

yeah but it's not the same. you hear fez in best ofs and you're like damn this is great.
and then you hear him now and he has 4 different personalities.

one second he's lets mother the world fez

next he's angry fez that just wants people locked up for minor things

then he's crying

then he's detective fez stomping out conspiracies against him.

everything but the fez we know and love. i honestly don't care because i like them all,but don't act like fez is still the same old fez.

I laugh through just about all of it, and hear more of the "old Fez" you're talking about now than we have in a long time.

Notice when Ron intervened to some degree over the last couple of weeks Fez and the show were even better.

He shouldn't have to step in to subdue Dave - that would be Dave's responsibility which he refuses to accept because he would rather claim victim or ignorance or tourettes.

[CanadianDave]

That shower was quite possibly the most over romanticized piece of bullshit you have wrote on here. In your own mind I am sure it was gold. Fez does not elevate Ronnie b, he is his whipping boy who never actually comes up with an insightful comment. He says ridiculous shit and has so many mental weaknesses he is the
most useful guy a philosopher like Ronnie b could have.

But it's all because of his lack of physical mental and emotional abilities

[mendyweiss]

Really, this is very distracting. I'm staring at Judge Smails' avatar.
He hit it out of the park with that one !!!

[ShowerBench]

Fez does not elevate Ronnie b, he is his whipping boy who never actually comes up with an insightful comment. He says ridiculous shit and has so many mental weaknesses he is the
most useful guy a philosopher like Ronnie b could have.

But it's all because of his lack of physical mental and emotional abilities

That's close to an endorsement

[AZHobo]

Who cares about Dave. Seriously. He is a Ronny B creation. Ronny B could stick anyone in that chair and get the same results whether it be one of the fan attention whores, or some skank off the street. Fez serves his role as the neurotic perfectly. That is his counter to Ronny B's cool smooth role. It has nothing to do with Dave. Fez would be playing his role against whoever Ronny B paired him against on the air.

The tension exists between Fez and character 3 by design. When character 3 stops being interesting or the long bit gets boring they will bring in a new character 3. Anyone who listens to the show for Dave's contributions outside of the bit Ronny B has created is listening to the wrong Ron & Fez show.

All this on air drama is a work. Even Dave doesn't get it and seems to think he has a real job as some kind of partial show hosts and that he can somehow worm his way into the Fez chair. Last thing Ronny B wants or needs is Dave in chair 2. Sure when Fez is out it may bring a different tone to the show, but in the overall scheme Ronny B needs his out of control neurotic side kick. That isn't Dave because Dave thinks he is normal despite the crazy stuff he does in the name of gimmick entertainment. So Ronny B uses Dave for gimmick entertainment.

Never underestimate the talent of Ronny B by buying into any of this crap. This stuff is only real on message boards and PalTalk. Never forget the vast majority of fans take part in neither. For them, all of you are just part of the bit...a gimmick to entertain.

If Ronny B needs a character for the day, hell he will just pull one off the message baord ab there you have it, breathe a little life into you for his needs, and the show goes on. Dave is no different.

Wow, I am setting records with my 3 recent posts in all my years lurking. I feel a ban coming on.

[IMSlacker]

I wish mikeyboy could still lock threads.

[spoon]

I wish mikeyboy could still lock threads.

He called it, ban warnings!

[ShowerBench]

Who cares about Dave. Seriously. He is a Ronny B creation. Ronny B could stick anyone in that chair and get the same results whether it be one of the fan attention whores, or some skank off the street. Fez serves his role as the neurotic perfectly. That is his counter to Ronny B's cool smooth role. It has nothing to do with Dave. Fez would be playing his role against whoever Ronny B paired him against on the air.

The tension exists between Fez and character 3 by design. When character 3 stops being interesting or the long bit gets boring they will bring in a new character 3. Anyone who listens to the show for Dave's contributions outside of the bit Ronny B has created is listening to the wrong Ron & Fez show.

All this on air drama is a work. Even Dave doesn't get it and seems to think he has a real job as some kind of partial show hosts and that he can somehow worm his way into the Fez chair. Last thing Ronny B wants or needs is Dave in chair 2. Sure when Fez is out it may bring a different tone to the show, but in the overall scheme Ronny B needs his out of control neurotic side kick. That isn't Dave because Dave thinks he is normal despite the crazy stuff he does in the name of gimmick entertainment. So Ronny B uses Dave for gimmick entertainment.

Never underestimate the talent of Ronny B by buying into any of this crap. This stuff is only real on message boards and PalTalk. Never forget the vast majority of fans take part in neither. For them, all of you are just part of the bit...a gimmick to entertain.

If Ronny B needs a character for the day, hell he will just pull one off the message baord ab there you have it, breathe a little life into you for his needs, and the show goes on. Dave is no different.

Wow, I am setting records with my 3 recent posts in all my years lurking. I feel a ban coming on.

Once seen, a truthbomb like this one can never be unseen threadlock or no.

[sailor]

If Ronny B needs a character for the day, hell he will just pull one off the message baord ab there you have it, breathe a little life into you for his needs, and the show goes on. Dave is no different.

agreed. i love when dave pulls random characters off the message board and centers a show on them.

[CanadianDave]

I like when dudes like azhobo think they are some "inside" superior listener, it's funny. You know the kind of dinks that say "buuudddday" when calling the show or "punching out" on o&a. Like they are 100% sure they would be pals with the boys if they really knew them.

Nerddddds. You guys make me laugh. Get over the inside it's a work bs.. Keep saying that about everything and sometimes your right.. Fez is about to fuck up a good show. That's the inside truth

[underdog]

I like when dudes like azhobo think they are some "inside" superior listener, it's funny. You know the kind of dinks that say "buuudddday" when calling the show or "punching out" on o&a. Like they are 100% sure they would be pals with the boys if they really knew them.

Nerddddds. You guys make me laugh. Get over the inside it's a work bs.. Keep saying that about everything and sometimes your right.. Fez is about to fuck up a good show. That's the inside truth

Everyone that says "punching out" on O&A does it wrong. It's so fucking annoying.

[spoon]

punching in

what's up buddays!?

[ShowerBench]

I like when dudes like azhobo think they are some "inside" superior listener, it's funny. You know the kind of dinks that say "buuudddday" when calling the show or "punching out" on o&a. Like they are 100% sure they would be pals with the boys if they really knew them.

Nerddddds. You guys make me laugh. Get over the inside it's a work bs.. Keep saying that about everything and sometimes your right.. Fez is about to fuck up a good show. That's the inside truth

I've heard Ron and Fez describe the listening audience as friends and pals and family on numerous occasions, and point out that it's one of the things that makes the show worth doing. No problem with the "budday" calls.

Ron and Fez are essential to Ron and Fez show, and no one else currently on the show is. That's the inside truth.

[tanless1]

ive been missing shows lately, and not really missing them.

[landarch]

i find it fun.

i watch tons of wrestling and it seems like a wrestling work.
like hulk hogan vs. macho man when the mega powers broke up.

it even says on fez's wikipedia page that he's known for bits that go on for LONG amounts of time. like wrestling works did in the 80s.
if dave gets fired i'm sure it'll be apart of the show,and he'll be fine.

Does anyone still watch wrestling?

Bring the comedy

[ShowerBench]

Get over the inside it's a work bs..

I don't think he said it's a work in the sense that emotions and conflicts involve are faked, sounds more like he meant it's the way this show has gone forever and it will stop when a staffer leaves or the maestro - one who has conducted the best show on radio for over two decades - decides it isn't valuable anymore.

[ShowerBench]

Fez is about to fuck up a good show.

They could have accidentally yanked out Fez's vocal cords when they put in the stents and Ronnie B would never fuck him over.

ESD might have made a fatal error thinking otherwise even if it's obvious to any retard who has listened for over a week

[TripleSkeet]

They could have accidentally yanked out Fez's vocal cords when they put in the stents

You mean they didnt?

And you guys didnt believe me when I called this clown out for being a board character.

[TwizzlesMcNasty]

I would not miss dave half as much as i miss earl

[sailor]

do you think so?

[spoon]

without another thread to make up my mind, i just can't say

[CanadianDave]

Ok superfan, would just ron and fez on the mic for the entire show be better or worse than having Dave on? And also was the show better when Earl was on?

[Evolved]

You mean they didnt?

And you guys didnt believe me when I called this clown out for being a board character.

Didn't I beat you to it? Maybe just parallel thinking.

[TripleSkeet]

Didn't I beat you to it? Maybe just parallel thinking.

Hmmm...possibly...but I like to think not. It makes me feel good. :wink:

[Small..Balls]

Keep on rockin', ESD....

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[Moe Lester]

i wouldnt miss dave at all, i cant stand him on the radio

[TripleSkeet]

For the record, Id still listen, but I hink the show would be ALOT less funny.

[GvacMobile]

Maybe it is time for Dave to move on.

I think the show could use a shake up.

Dave has been there longer than any other producer. He can be proud of that and walk away a champ.

[underdog]

Maybe it is time for Dave to move on.

I think the show could use a shake up.

Dave has been there longer than any other producer. He can be proud of that and walk away a champ.

I thought Earl was there the longest?

[ShowerBench]

Ok superfan, would just ron and fez on the mic for the entire show be better or worse than having Dave on? And also was the show better when Earl was on?

Ron and Fez on the mic with Dave doing occasional voices and gimmicks and production pieces - even making LOW KEY contributions to topical conversations - is good.

But no Dave at all would be better than the current situation where one host doesn't like the shots ESD continues to take at him, ESD talks over the host who has gotten back on his game lately but still can't get a word in edgewise, and the host is demoralized by the Team Dave contingent that Dave continues to incite.

I liked Earl but could hear that he was getting on both hosts' nerves for what sounded primarily like ineffective performance as a producer. Earl never got on my nerves but at a certain point thought he should leave because nobody seemed happy with him there including him.

[Sue_Bender]

Dave can be frustrating to listen to at times, but he's a genuinely brilliant comic idiot.

I would miss him terribly if he were to leave.

Ron, Fez, Dave, and Chris Tanley are the perfect lineup.

[Small..Balls]

Dave can be frustrating to listen to at times, but he's a genuinely brilliant comic idiot.

I would miss him terribly if he were to leave.

Ron, Fez, Dave, and Chris Tanley are the perfect lineup.

I'd still like to see Mooch get up in there.

[GvacMobile]

After EVERY SINGLE producer left people said the show would never be as good. They bitched when Al Dukes left, they wept when Billy Staples was gone, they were saddened by the loss of Giant Brian, Keisha, Rory, etc.

Ron and Fez make the Ron and Fez show work.

I know that's hard to fathom for some, but it's true.

They could make it fun to listen to them hang with a 5 year old child.

In fact, they have.

Many times.

For a show such as theirs, change is not only good, it's essential.

[Small..Balls]

After EVERY SINGLE producer left people said the show would never be as good.

I don't remember anyone complaining when Earl left.

[GvacMobile]

I don't remember anyone complaining when Earl left.

Believe it or not, some of the psychopaths on this site did.

I was happy as a clam.

[underdog]

Believe it or not, some of the psychopaths on this site did.

I was happy as a clam.

Don't you mean sober as a clam?

[ShowerBench]

After EVERY SINGLE producer left people said the show would never be as good. They bitched when Al Dukes left, they wept when Billy Staples was gone, they were saddened by the loss of Giant Brian, Keisha, Rory, etc.

Ron and Fez make the Ron and Fez show work.

I know that's hard to fathom for some, but it's true.

They could make it fun to listen to them hang with a 5 year old child.

In fact, they have.

Many times.

For a show such as theirs, change is not only good, it's essential.

5 year child? Hell they've made it fun with 5 months olds.

There's a group of Ron and Fez survivors who walk the earth having barely gotten out with their lives intact much less sanity, but who probably wouldn't trade the experience for anything, kind of like what people who have had near-fatal accidents or illnesses say.

[paulisded]

I like when dudes like azhobo think they are some "inside" superior listener, it's funny. You know the kind of dinks that say "buuudddday" when calling the show or "punching out" on o&a. Like they are 100% sure they would be pals with the boys if they really knew them.

Nerddddds. You guys make me laugh. Get over the inside it's a work bs.. Keep saying that about everything and sometimes your right.. Fez is about to fuck up a good show. That's the inside truth

Post of the week.

I think Shower Bench may actually be Fez's thief, as he's way over the top in stating over and over that Fez has never made a mistake in his life.

[Crispy123]

God damn I miss Earl.

[TripleSkeet]

After EVERY SINGLE producer left people said the show would never be as good. They bitched when Al Dukes left, they wept when Billy Staples was gone, they were saddened by the loss of Giant Brian, Keisha, Rory, etc.

Ron and Fez make the Ron and Fez show work.

I know that's hard to fathom for some, but it's true.

They could make it fun to listen to them hang with a 5 year old child.

In fact, they have.

Many times.

For a show such as theirs, change is not only good, it's essential.

Ive never given two fucks about any producer that has left the show. That being said, if the Nazis had my family and were forcing me to choose, Id take Dave over Fez in a heartbeat. Thats just my opinion. I find him to be the funnier, more interactive, and more knowledgable of the two.

The people that say Fezzie cant get a word in on his show are just delusional or stupid. You pick. Its not Daves fault Ronnie B. brings him into the discussion so every conversation he has doesnt have to be one sided. You can only respond to "Um..." "I agree..." and dead air so many times.

[STC-Dub]

I is

















until vacation is over.

[joeybadass]

fuck him and fuck all you fruits. i'll fuck you all up

[TripleSkeet]

fuck him and fuck all you fruits. i'll fuck you all up

Now this is a board character I can dig. Can I make your sig pic?

[joeybadass]

Now this is a board character I can dig. Can I make your sig pic?

if you dont i'll kick your fucking ass

[Hottub]

if you dont i'll kick your fucking ass

Ughh!:wallbash:

Sometimes less is more.

[albacore]

Fez topic
What ever happened to sloppy joes?

That right there should tell you how badly we need Dave on the air.

[drjoek]

Fez topic
What ever happened to sloppy joes?

That right there should tell you how badly we need Dave on the air.



Topic ripped right from Ronfez.net.

[Hottub]

http://midnightsnack.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/sloppyjoe1.png?w=500&h=313

[zildjian361]

Hope so. I could use a good guy on my show.

Hoo Hoo

Artie od nobodys live on the radio in weeks:wallbash:

[oldpoet]

If Dave leaves and Chris Tanley takes Dave's current spot, eventually Fez will find something to object to with him, don't you think? And in 14 months when Tanley leaves, it will just be Ron left, and Fez will drive him away too. This is sad. I wish things could work out for everyone involved.

G'bye, red-haired retard. You will be missed.

If it's not a bit.

[Contra]

You guys crack me up.

Sometimes I think there's more comedy on this board than there is on the show.

Then I quickly come to my senses.

[bigfatfuck]

http://midnightsnack.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/sloppyjoe1.png?w=500&h=313

That looks so good. :glurps:

[albacore]

[QUOTE=drjoek;2437505]Topic ripped right from Ronfez.net.[/QUOTE


Not only a shitty topic by a crazy old queen but a shitty topic on Ronfez.net.

Says a lot about both.

[TripleSkeet]

if you dont i'll kick your fucking ass

Oh we wouldnt want that, sen.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8223/52708475.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/52708475.jpg/)

[zildjian361]

LOTTA RUDE AND RUDE'S INTHIS POST WHO YA TEASIN HONEY:smoke::drunk:

[SP1!]

Fez topic
What ever happened to sloppy joes?

That right there should tell you how badly we need Dave on the air.

And you never heard one topic like that come up the week dave missed, face it, the show is a lot better when hes no where to be found.

[TripleSkeet]

And you never heard one topic like that come up the week dave missed, face it, the show is a lot better when hes no where to be found.

If Fez cant do his job in Daves presence thats Fez's problem, not Daves. The guy is supposed to be a professional. Thats a weak excuse.

[disgruntledsherpa]

I'm surprised anyone is still listening. Bit or not I cannot stand it anymore.

I find this whole Fez/Dave thing fascinating. I think its great radio. Much better than these hour long interview segments they seem to be doing a lot more since they expanded the show to four hours.

[ShowerBench]

If Fez cant do his job in Daves presence thats Fez's problem, not Daves. The guy is supposed to be a professional. Thats a weak excuse.

Fez is doing his job. If Dave steps all over his lines and conversation, which he does, that means Dave is failing in his job/role, not Fez.

Fez has been in the business too long to be forced to babysit a retard.

[TripleSkeet]

Fez is doing his job. If Dave steps all over his lines and conversation, which he does, that means Dave is failing in his job/role, not Fez.

Fez has been in the business too long to be forced to babysit a retard.

Talking over dead air isnt "stepping on lines".

Your board character has gotten stale. Im done with you. My new favorite board character is joeybadass.

[ShowerBench]

I find this whole Fez/Dave thing fascinating. I think its great radio. Much better than these hour long interview segments they seem to be doing a lot more since they expanded the show to four hours.

agree, through this entire thing and every other chapter Ron and Fez has never failed to be great radio

[Aqualad]

Not a chance it's his last day. He's not going anywhere

[The Thadd]

Who cares about Dave. Seriously. He is a Ronny B creation. Ronny B could stick anyone in that chair and get the same results whether it be one of the fan attention whores, or some skank off the street. Fez serves his role as the neurotic perfectly. That is his counter to Ronny B's cool smooth role. It has nothing to do with Dave. Fez would be playing his role against whoever Ronny B paired him against on the air.

The tension exists between Fez and character 3 by design. When character 3 stops being interesting or the long bit gets boring they will bring in a new character 3. Anyone who listens to the show for Dave's contributions outside of the bit Ronny B has created is listening to the wrong Ron & Fez show.

All this on air drama is a work. Even Dave doesn't get it and seems to think he has a real job as some kind of partial show hosts and that he can somehow worm his way into the Fez chair. Last thing Ronny B wants or needs is Dave in chair 2. Sure when Fez is out it may bring a different tone to the show, but in the overall scheme Ronny B needs his out of control neurotic side kick. That isn't Dave because Dave thinks he is normal despite the crazy stuff he does in the name of gimmick entertainment. So Ronny B uses Dave for gimmick entertainment.

.

Wow, I completley agree here. Ronnie could stick anyone in Daves chair and he can get what he wants. Dave is a warm body who is playing a role.

[Godzoox]

I get sad for 30 sec when Ron and Fez run a producer off then i get excited on how the next work is going to play out...Remember they never fire a producer they just drive them bat shit crazy then poof gone and well mostly forgotten...

[TheQuestion]

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[foodcourtdruide]

I always thought dave would end up working with his father in law. That's not a shot at him or anything, just kinda makes sense.

[Jubjubs]

Wow, I completley agree here. Ronnie could stick anyone in Daves chair and he can get what he wants. Dave is a warm body who is playing a role.

There have been alot of "warm bodies" sitting across from Ron over the years.

If there's been ANYONE on air that's made Ron audibly laugh harder, or more often than Dave does I can't recall it. That says alot.

[ShowerBench]

oh brother

[TripleSkeet]

Wow, I completley agree here. Ronnie could stick anyone in Daves chair and he can get what he wants. Dave is a warm body who is playing a role.

LOL The same EXACT thing can be said about Fez. I dont speak for anyone else, but as far as my listening goes its The Ron Show. I like Dave more then the rest but to be honest you could pick an entire new staff off the street, including co-host, and put them with Ron tomorrow and the show will be hilarious and I would listen.

[DolaMight]

where's pitzy? thought that was just a bit.

[Meataball23]

LOL The same EXACT thing can be said about Fez. I dont speak for anyone else, but as far as my listening goes its The Ron Show. I like Dave more then the rest but to be honest you could pick an entire new staff off the street, including co-host, and put them with Ron tomorrow and the show will be hilarious and I would listen.

FACT!!!

Thats a 100% FACT!

Whatever Ron is broadcasting im listening. He has made mildly obscure musicians completely interesting to me - and I'll make it a point to listen whatever he puts out on the air

I try to listen to special delivery, but I dont care if I miss any one of their shows, and to my knowledge Fez doesnt have any side projects, but if he did - Im sure Id try to check them out.

Im a fan of Ron and hes the one that cracks me up day in and day out. Personally I think ESD has been more of a second mic, and I enjoy the back and forth with Ron and ESD b/c they can talk on a broader range of topics, but ultimately I dont care if ESD or Fez talks more. Just listen to when Ron takes a phone call or when hes out of studio for a second...Fez and ESD both have zero clue what to do. Fez repeats himself 14x or does a live read, and ESD just stutters.

Like tripleskeet said - throw Ron w/ anyone and I'll listen.

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[West.Coast.Skippy]

if friday was dave's last on r & f, i would be really disappointed. he brings sparkle and energy to the show.

it was really thoughtful of ron to start today by complimenting dave's videos. just yesterday i caught up on them and agree that they're pretty cute. i like the elvis one. today wasn't the first time ron has mentioned he thought dave was more of a visual comedian. dave has a great - and unique! - comedic delivery. plus we can tell from his production work that he can also be funny beyond goofy looks.

i've listened to every episode of special delivery. (and, for what it's worth, than and sam) truth is the show doesn't click for me. dave gets a little wild, hyper, like in a free fall, and sam doesn't provide sufficient balance. but it's hard to have a very strong personality. it's hard because, when you find yourself in an awkward situation, there's this conflict between adjusting to fit or just finding a new 'situation'. and that's why i'm not sure dave should do a glossier, more coherent s d, but instead feel he should keep seeking out exactly how his zaniness fits- in all its undiluted, spontaneous, quirky nature.

most successful people, in any field, have had mentors. ron has taken on esd in this capacity, and you can tell esd has grown from it. he's just "better" on the radio now than when i started listening a year ago. dave's departure would leave a void.

buried in the unfortunate conflict over the last few weeks (months, years) was an interesting statement about dave's interests. fez or someone asked dave directly if he was out to replace fez. dave said no, that what he really liked was production work, making bits, and doing third mic. though one wonders where that leave s d, it rings true to me.

there's that guy who's been with conan for so long, who acts in bits and does voice overs (twitter tracker!)... i assume he's a writer on the show. i think it's possible he's funnier or has 'more chops' than conan on a good day. but he is only 'exposed' in small doses, where he really brings segments to life. i think dave is a natural for a 'color' role like this, and i don't think that dude minds at all that he isn't in the name of the show or that people know him as 'that dude'.

thank you dave. have a great vacation... you've earned it. :clap:

[CanadianDave]

After EVERY SINGLE producer left people said the show would never be as good. They bitched when Al Dukes left, they wept when Billy Staples was gone, they were saddened by the loss of Giant Brian, Keisha, Rory, etc.

Ron and Fez make the Ron and Fez show work.

I know that's hard to fathom for some, but it's true.

They could make it fun to listen to them hang with a 5 year old child.

In fact, they have.

Many times.

For a show such as theirs, change is not only good, it's essential.

Oh i remember when Ron& Fez would talk to Linette or whatever that little girls name was. Yes it was so funny. They way Fez would talk to her in that little cute voice of his............

Only now he would probably be yelling at her "Did you steal my money you little hoar, I will fuk you up, are you part of the plan, I am under attack here, i have reason to be paranoid, dont be funnier than me you little bitch. My ass is still secure, i have not, i repeat not been decently violated, well ever, my shrink is on vacation you little c.... By the way whats up with Beef Jerky.. goddammit...tears

[PapaBear]

Last edited by CanadianDave; Today at 12:33 AM.
You might want to give it another shot.

[knockknock]

I don't know Dave, I don't know Casey. They're characters on a radio show I listen to. I'm also not a lawyer.

When Fez runs off Dave and the show continues on, I'll still resent the way Fez went about it. He went completely insane and ran off an employee by publicly slandering that employee's wife.

Fez is Dave's boss but he refuses to address issues with Dave in person, per his admission. Over the air, however, he makes the most malicious accusations against a private citizen, who's incidentally a mother raising 2 babies in poverty. He's blatantly accused Dave's wife of running a massive conspiracy against him. He's ratcheted up the accusations to include felony bank fraud and identity theft. He monitors her online accounts. He's forced Dave to muzzle her and make her turn everything private, which is undue infringement and control. He's actively engaging in slander and harassment of this woman who never talks on air. For 99% of the audience we don't even know what his beef with her is. I personally have never read her writings.

Dave will be much better off financially after he and his wife sue for and win Fez's fortune in civil and New York labor court. That can be their F.U. money while Dave sells chair lifts. I've done some research and what Fez is doing is cause for expensive legal action.

[Melk]

if dave gets fired i'm sure it'll be apart of the show,and he'll be fine.
Yeah. When his replacement, the masked wrestler named "Ginger Machine" comes to Sirius in two weeks, it will all be worth it.

[ShowerBench]

Dave will be much better off financially after he and his wife sue for and win Fez's fortune in civil and New York labor court. That can be their F.U. money while Dave sells chair lifts. I've done some research and what Fez is doing is cause for expensive legal action.

All Ron and Fez would have to do every day for 4 hours of nonstop laughs would be to read from that claim

[CanadianDave]

You might want to give it another shot.

Yes PBG i should have hit em with one of your gems about computer repair.. I did find a few attempts at humor....uhh yaaa

I'm a fridge thief.
Posted By PapaBear
I don't steal food, but I shaved a roommate's kiwis once. Yeah. That's right. His kiwis.

I just want to set something straight here. Mr. Misery is not my neighbor. He lives in Northern Virginia. I live in Vagina.


Oh please a random thought before we leave papa

Random Thoughts
Views: 29,180 Posted By PapaBear
A perfectly ripe cantaloupe is fucking amazing.

Guess my Jerky comment hit a little close to home... sorry

[Melk]

Dave will be much better off financially after he and his wife sue for and win Fez's fortune in civil and New York labor court. That can be their F.U. money while Dave sells chair lifts. I've done some research and what Fez is doing is cause for expensive legal action.
I haven't had a chance to listen to any of the shows since Thursday, but I think this is a bit.

If Dave and Casey deserve compensation for the mockery Fez puts them through on the air, then Earl has an even bigger case based off of Dave snooping around in his email account. I'm sure Dave reading Earl's email was a bit and I am sure Dave and Casey v. Fez is a bit.

Why would Ron let this stuff on the air if it were 100% true? And why would Sirius/XM who, according to Ron, check up on the show allow this to happen if it weren't a bit?

[TripleSkeet]

Dave will be much better off financially after he and his wife sue for and win Fez's fortune in civil and New York labor court. That can be their F.U. money while Dave sells chair lifts. I've done some research and what Fez is doing is cause for expensive legal action.

Ok, lets not get out of hand.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Seems all the negativity for the show surrounds Dave and his family. Very weird.

yep.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

without another thread to make up my mind, i just can't say

yeah

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I thought Earl was there the longest?

yes

[CofyCrakCocaine]

will you cunts please shut the fuck up.

(should) yea (will) no

[Sue_Bender]

Everyone has an opinion. And most of you are wrong. :wink:

Fez is fantastic. A lot of potential energy there. Dave does NOT impede on him. Fez wouldn't be there if Dave was silent. He's no longer capable.

All you have to do is listen to old bits where Ron would be a out for a moment or two and Fez could perpetuate the flow. For whatever reason, he lacks both the confidence and (apparently) the ability to do so.

I'm astonished that there are people here who find Dave's interaction with Ron weaker than Fez's contribution. I'm a Fez supporter. I root for him. However...

He no longer delivers entertaining radio. He brings a redundant whiny conflict to the ordeal. He talks in circles while listeners at home scratch their heads thinking, "Does he really believe what he's saying?" If he does, he's an ignorant ass. If he doesn't, it's awful radio. Did I mention I love Fez? I do...just not THIS one.

If Dave leaves, Ron will be leading a one man band. Fez is limited in topics and overall conversation.

Dave is the OTHER voice/opinion on the program. He can answer a question and fill dead air.

I would never want to see Fez go, but right now, the show is hinged upon ESD's involvement. Otherwise...

Mr. Ron will be forced to retire...and begin to enjoy his life.

Fuck! This is a stupid topic! :wallbash:

[TjM]

This might come as a shock to people on this board but for the majority of xm listeners around north America The Ron-fez show includes Dave,,,he has been there since we started listening. To me he is much more important than fez. No slam just the truth.. The interesting conversations come from Ron and Dave. If I want observational humor i will put on seinfeld

Speak for yourself not an entire continent

[TjM]

This is why we lost Mikeyboy

[TjM]

Dave will be much better off financially after he and his wife sue for and win Fez's fortune in civil and New York labor court. That can be their F.U. money while Dave sells chair lifts. I've done some research and what Fez is doing is cause for expensive legal action.

You have to be fucking kidding. That's the most asinine post yet

[MisterSmith]

Everyone has an opinion. And most of you are wrong. :wink:

Fez is fantastic. A lot of potential energy there. Dave does NOT impede on him. Fez wouldn't be there if Dave was silent. He's no longer capable.

All you have to do is listen to old bits where Ron would be a out for a moment or two and Fez could perpetuate the flow. For whatever reason, he lacks both the confidence and (apparently) the ability to do so.

I'm astonished that there are people here who find Dave's interaction with Ron weaker than Fez's contribution. I'm a Fez supporter. I root for him. However...

He no longer delivers entertaining radio. He brings a redundant whiny conflict to the ordeal. He talks in circles while listeners at home scratch their heads thinking, "Does he really believe what he's saying?" If he does, he's an ignorant ass. If he doesn't, it's awful radio. Did I mention I love Fez? I do...just not THIS one.

If Dave leaves, Ron will be leading a one man band. Fez is limited in topics and overall conversation.

Dave is the OTHER voice/opinion on the program. He can answer a question and fill dead air.

I would never want to see Fez go, but right now, the show is hinged upon ESD's involvement. Otherwise...

Mr. Ron will be forced to retire...and begin to enjoy his life.

Fuck! This is a stupid topic! :wallbash:

Very well put, and I think you hit the nail on the head as far as my opinion. I like Dave and I like Fez. I wish we had a "different version" of Fez because right now I don't know what will happen to the show if Dave leaves.

Speak for yourself not an entire continent

He was speaking as a Canadian. Canada got the show late in the game so their exposure to the show has included Dave for nearly the entire run.

And although the USA is part of North America, be honest - we usually just call ourselves America.

You have to be fucking kidding. That's the most asinine post yet

There may be a bit of hyperbole thrown in, but it isn't altogether inaccurate. It wouldn't be beyond the pale for Somebody to sue because he is being forced to endure a "hostile workplace." And on paper, some of the stuff Fez has said and done can be damning.

Look at it from the outside - Fez claims Dave & his wife are the heart of a vast conspiracy Out to sabotage Fez's life. In the "real world" that gets a WTF response.

[TjM]

Very well put, and I think you hit the nail on the head as far as my opinion. I like Dave and I like Fez. I wish we had a "different version" of Fez because right now I don't know what will happen to the show if Dave leaves.



He was speaking as a Canadian. Canada got the show late in the game so their exposure to the show has included Dave for nearly the entire run.

And although the USA is part of North America, be honest - we usually just call ourselves America.



There may be a bit of hyperbole thrown in, but it isn't altogether inaccurate. It wouldn't be beyond the pale for Somebody to sue because he is being forced to endure a "hostile workplace." And on paper, some of the stuff Fez has said and done can be damning.

Look at it from the outside - Fez claims Dave & his wife are the heart of a vast conspiracy Out to sabotage Fez's life. In the "real world" that gets a WTF response.


But Dave has thrown plenty at Earl and Fez. I'm just saying that I'm not sure the hostile workplace thing would fly when it comes to 202. They're all ass holes

[drjoek]

There may be a bit of hyperbole thrown in, but it isn't altogether inaccurate. It wouldn't be beyond the pale for Somebody to sue because he is being forced to endure a "hostile workplace." And on paper, some of the stuff Fez has said and done can be damning.

Look at it from the outside - Fez claims Dave & his wife are the heart of a vast conspiracy Out to sabotage Fez's life. In the "real world" that gets a WTF response.

While this may be true Do you think that a lawyer for Fez wouldn't dig up stuff against ESD. By dig up I mean look into all the crazy things Dave has done over the last 3 years and present evidence that is quite damaging to Dave. You dont have to look to far to find some pretty bizare behavior displayed by him. WE take this stuff that Dave has done as entertainment but if you look at it from outside of us his fans this stuff is not going to play well under examination

Just another thought

[glenndog]

Does anyone else see the irony in Howard Stern calling someone dicknose?

I don't think that is really Howard Stern.

[kratos]

Each person is the heart of all their problems. We have way too much externalizing going on in this world.

I don't know if I could stick with the show if Dave quit. Not because I pick a side but because Ron would have let the situation go down so poorly when he has accurately stated the root of the problem.

On the other hand, I am all for Dave-free weeks. I think a week where Dave is practically invisible to Fez, while Fez completely sequesters himself from message boards (a change in behavior for both and therefore fair) would do a lot to make the situation clearer.

[Melk]

I would never want to see Fez go, but right now, the show is hinged upon ESD's involvement. Otherwise...

Mr. Ron will be forced to retire...
Two points:
1) Ron considers his on-air job to be tantamount to stealing. I think he'd rather not retire.

2) Ron could do an awesome show with an intermittently functional "See and Say."

[Farthammer]

Two points:
1) Ron considers his on-air job to be tantamount to stealing. I think he'd rather not retire.

2) Ron could do an awesome show with an intermittently functional "See and Say."

Great point. Ron Bennington doesn't need anyone to have a fantastic show. Ron Bennington is the only thing a show needs to succeed.

[Melk]

I don't think that is really Howard Stern.
If this poster claiming to be Howard Stern were to post on Friday, then I would have my doubts, but today is Thursday... it... could... be... him. :wink:

[TripleSkeet]

Speak for yourself not an entire continent

But hes right. Outside of NY, DC and Tampa everyone that has been listening to Ron and Fez on XM has been listening with Dave as a part of the show.

[Sue_Bender]

Two points:
1) Ron considers his on-air job to be tantamount to stealing. I think he'd rather not retire.

2) Ron could do an awesome show with an intermittently functional "See and Say."


:clap:

[spainlinx0]

I like Dave. I like Fez.

At this point in time neither of them is crucial to the Ron and Fez show. Fez used to be. Dave never was.

To those who say Fez has shown moments of his former self, you are simply wrong. I have listened since WNEW. I have heard every XM show. I am currently listening to the WJFK shows I missed.

This is not even .001% of what Fez used to be. On his best current days he gets to maybe 5%. You can blind yourself to that fact however you wish, but if you were to do A/B comparisons, which I am doing currently, you could more easily see what I'm saying.

It has nothing to do with Dave either. This is Fez's own personal problems bringing him down. He may come back, he may not. At this point I don't know if I ever see him getting back to even close to where he was.

Dave is great on the show, but he is great because Ron controls him. He is not close to what Fez used to be, but he's better than Fez currently is. Kicking him off the show will do nothing to bring Fez back, and while Chris Stanley has his moments, he's not filling the 2nd/3rd mic roles anytime soon. Honestly, Chris and Dave should be Special Delivery. Why they didn't pair off I will never understand. They have great chemistry, and I can definitely see Pepper reigning him in and acting as the show leader like Ron does now.

Of course, no matter what happens, I'm going to listen. I'm a lifer. I listen to the entire shows every day. You can trash me and say I'm not a true fan, but I'm just giving my opinion here.

To those who keep claiming "bit" I think you don't understand the show at all. This show has always been about bringing real stuff on the air. The "bits" have ALWAYS been very obvious. For example, Pitzy. We knew he was leaving the show. It was obvious for months. There was no way he was winning Spinning the Hits that day. It was just a "bit" to give him a reason to leave.

Earl leaving, that was not a bit. That guy is just out of his fucking mind insane. If you don't see why the Dave-Casey-Fez stuff is maybe 2% bit, and 98% shoot, you don't understand this show no matter how much of a "real" listener you claim to be. There is real animosity and tension there. These people aren't great actors. You can tell when they are faking. Fez is not faking. Dave is not faking. If you can't tell when they are acting, and when they are speaking truthfully, you should get checked for Aspergers along with Fez.

[ShowerBench]

Dave is completely replaceable and replaceable with someone better, so the argument that he fills time doesn't amount to a sufficient defense.

Dave grates on a large portion of the audience. For my part, I don't even hear what the motormouth says most of the time so it's not as bad as it is for those who can't stand him, but when I do tune into his babble, he grates.

I love some of Dave's work. Most recently the Ron and Fez contact info piece. But if the show requires a third mic to contribute to the flow, someone dryer and lower key would fit the bill much better. The actual substance of Dave's opinions and insight is far from essential. The only time it's entertaining is when he's in his niche - clowning, not conversing - and in small doses.

Fez, on the other hand, is Fez, and has been Fez through all his incarnations. The show would not improve with any other co-host, and would be unlistenable with Dave in that role.

There are plenty of gimmicks that would draw more ears to the show - and there always have been - but that has never been the point of Ron and Fez, has it.

[mikeyboy]

I'm not sure he's going to make it to Friday.

[yojimbo7248]

I'm not sure he's going to make it to Friday.

this might be it, last couple of minutes

[lleeder]

I'm not sure he's going to make it to Friday.

yeah that really should have been an option

[lleeder]

oh boy the insurance sucks wasnt a good comment

[CanadianDave]

Fred, fez, Franklin,,, not one of these guys cares about anything but their own little worlds and the rules within those worlds are fucking impossible to figure out for a guy like dave. They really are like hyper sensitive women.

[spainlinx0]

Let me explain to those guys claiming conspiracy why the boards "suddenly" turned against them.

Franklin - You're a fake weird creepy laugher. You're that obnoxious douche we all know who thinks he is cooler than the room. You have nothing interesting to say. You laugh at your own jokes. You dug ziti out of a garbage and ate it.

Mafia Life Chris - Personally, I like when he's on the air. However I agree the plugging can get annoying. Also, the guy is anti-gay, yet blew a guy and loves a show with Fez. Guy makes no sense.

Fred from Brooklyn - I don't think anything says more about this guy then when he was bitching to Ron that he doesn't bring his problems to him, as he brings all his problems to him. He's the guy Ron always talks about who hates all women because they are "cunts" who will take your money. Frankly, I find his insanity entertaining (haven't heard today yet) but in no way do I think he is someone I would want to spend any time with.

You aren't likeable PEOPLE. I personally find unlikeable people entertaining on the radio, at least in a cringe way (Franklin) or in punching bag way (MLC) or in a "people like this actually exist?" way (Fred from Brooklyn), but there was no conspiracy behind the attacks. You're all unlikeable people in your own special way.

[ShowerBench]

If Dave goes, which I hope he doesn't only slightly more than hope he does, he will have self-destructed. His Achilles heel would have been his refusal to accept any responsibility for anything, even if it means throwing his wife under the bus as the cause rather than accept some accountability.

He came out of the woodwork here only to attack GVac for joining Team Fez. Why would that motivate him, and not the HUNDREDS of anti-Fez posts? He claims he defended Fez with one "let's be positive" thread. What a load of bullshit.

Even if he did nothing to actively mitigate the battle, he could have at least backed off and he hasn't. He still attacks and mocks Fez daily on the air.

I say "refuses" to take any responsibility because he is intelligent enough to comprehend the way all this has reached these toxic levels, intended or not, and he's intelligent enough to figure out what behavior could help the situation.

So if he leaves, it will be suicide. Too bad, too. Most on Team Fez like some of what he does and want the best Ron and Fez show there can be.

Most on Team Dave actively try to demoralize and undermine Fez and they suck.

[paulisded]

If Dave goes, which I hope he doesn't only slightly more than hope he does, he will have self-destructed. His Achilles heel would have been his refusal to accept any responsibility for anything, even if it means throwing his wife under the bus as the cause rather than accept some accountability.

He came out of the woodwork here only to attack GVac for joining Team Fez. Why would that motivate him, and not the HUNDREDS of anti-Fez posts? He claims he defended Fez with one "let's be positive" thread. What a load of bullshit.

Even if he did nothing to actively mitigate the battle, he could have at least backed off and he hasn't. He still attacks and mocks Fez daily on the air.

I say "refuses" to take any responsibility because he is intelligent enough to comprehend the way all this has reached these toxic levels, intended or not, and he's intelligent enough to figure out what behavior could help the situation.

So if he leaves, it will be suicide. Too bad, too. Most on Team Fez like some of what he does and want the best Ron and Fez show there can be.

Most on Team Dave actively try to demoralize and undermine Fez and they suck.

When will you give Fez his money back?

[ShowerBench]

Fred, fez, Franklin,,, not one of these guys cares about anything but their own little worlds and the rules within those worlds are fucking impossible to figure out for a guy like dave. They really are like hyper sensitive women.

The only one I've heard being hypersensitive and crying over the last week was Dave when he went off on a paranoid rant agianst FFB a few days ago, and wept yesterday.

But he could only aspire to be a hypersensitive woman (although most in the radio staffer/fan constellation almost invariably become that, with their delicate egos). He's more like a sensitive little girl because he cries and is completely unaccountable.

[knockknock]

From the Cleveland Clinic:

"What is delusional disorder?

Delusional disorder, previously known as paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness—called a “psychosis” – in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something that is untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.

People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function quite normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner. This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted."

[ShowerBench]

From the Cleveland Clinic:

"What is delusional disorder?

Delusional disorder, previously known as paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness—called a “psychosis” – in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something that is untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.

People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function quite normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner. This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted."

Can't read through all that psychobabble because most psychobabble and the labels that come with it are carnie bullshit, but what is your point?