~ Fantasy Football 2009 ~

[spoon]

There have been a lot of league specific threads and one off questions on players, so let's make this the one stop thread for fantasy football discussions.

I'll start by asking a few questions:

1) Will Palmer be a steal this year?

2) Can Westbrook and LT be top round RBs at the big 30?

3) Will Wells, Brown or Moreno be able to match Forte, Slaton and Smith as rookie Rbs from 2008?

[Kevin]

There have been a lot of league specific threads and one off questions on players, so let's make this the one stop thread for fantasy football discussions.

I'll start by asking a few questions:

1) Will Palmer be a steal this year?

2) Can Westbrook and LT be top round RBs at the big 30?

3) Will Wells, Brown or Moreno be able to match Forte, Slaton and Smith as rookie Rbs from 2008?


1: It all depends on his health
2: Westbrook prob more. he is more versatile
3: Wells has the best shot because of the 2 WR. They can never really play the run on D with those monsters.

[hammersavage]

1) Will Palmer be a steal this year?

2) Can Westbrook and LT be top round RBs at the big 30?

3) Will Wells, Brown or Moreno be able to match Forte, Slaton and Smith as rookie Rbs from 2008?

Palmer will be a steal if he can stay healthy. It's a pretty big if. But if you can get him as the 10th QB or so selected, he has thrown 30 td's and over 4,000 yds in a season.

At this point, LaT is a mid to late 1st rounder, Westbrook is an early to mid 2nd rounder. I personally like LaT to have a bounce back year. Westbrook should be solid too, again if he stays healthy. But players hitting the wall at 30 is a pretty solid barometer of production in the league. In Tomlison's case, he's coming off a down year (for him). How many players with the amount of carries he's had actually increase their stats at this point in their career.

And no. No way. Brown will be a nice complimentary back this season, Moreno has a lot of competition but should do well when he gets a chance, and I hate Beanie. Last years rookie crop of RB's was a once a decade type of production.

[spoon]

Palmer will be a steal if he can stay healthy. It's a pretty big if. But if you can get him as the 10th QB or so selected, he has thrown 30 td's and over 4,000 yds in a season.

At this point, LaT is a mid to late 1st rounder, Westbrook is an early to mid 2nd rounder. I personally like LaT to have a bounce back year. Westbrook should be solid too, again if he stays healthy. But players hitting the wall at 30 is a pretty solid barometer of production in the league. In Tomlison's case, he's coming off a down year (for him). How many players with the amount of carries he's had actually increase their stats at this point in their career.

And no. No way. Brown will be a nice complimentary back this season, Moreno has a lot of competition but should do well when he gets a chance, and I hate Beanie. Last years rookie crop of RB's was a once a decade type of production.

I'd love to say LT will bounce back, but I think Turner's offense has about as much to do with his fall off as does his age. I expect to see an all out air attack with the likes of giant wrs and TEs, mixed with a TON of screens to LT and Sproles. Expect an attack much like the Raiders during their Super Bowl run, with a better QB and deeper passing routes. Less dink and dunk, more screens, slants, outs and bombs.

[spoon]

OK, let's play a little game of predictions we can visit again at the end of the year.

Fantasy MVP
Fantasy Bust
Best Rookie Production
Top QB
Top RB
Top WR
Top TE
Top K
Top D
AFC Champ
NFC Champ
SB Champ

[TripleSkeet]

I think the rankings dropped both Westbrook and LT lower then they should be. LT was slowed by a toe injury all of last season. One that is now gone. (Why I am staying away from TO this year) and Westbrook wasnt completely healthy either. Both are still alot better then some of these guys ranked ahead of them.

Clinton Portis? Chris Johnson? Really? I dont see it.

Anyway, Im in one league that you get a point per reception as well as the regular scoring also. With the 7th pick I wound up with Westbrook, LT, Marion Barber and Willie Parker as my 4 RB's. I get to start 3.

Got another draft tomorrow night and one next Monday.

[hammersavage]

Fantasy MVP-gonna go out on a limb and say Adrian Peterson
Fantasy Bust-Larry Fitzgerald
Best Rookie Production-Donald Brown
Top RB-AP
Top WR-Andre Johnson
Top TE-Witten
Top K-Who cares?
Top D-Steelers
AFC Champ-Pats
NFC Champ-Bears (just to jinx Mojo)
SB Champ-Pats

.

[spoon]

More questions...

Will Deangelo Williams be nearly as good as last year, or will Stewart take control/split his value?

Can Chad Johnson regain form and wideout 1 status? Palmer staying healthy is the biggest factor here, but so is TJ Housh leaving/replaced by Coles.

Lendale White and Shockey are both supposed to be in great shape this year, will it mean much for either of their value?

[spoon]

Fantasy MVP --------- Forte (Turner close)
Fantasy Bust --------- Romo
Best Rookie Production --------- Wells
Top QB --------- Rivers
Top RB --------- Forte (Turner close)
Top WR --------- Andre Johnson
Top TE --------- Antonio Gates
Top K --------- Crosby
Top D --------- Baltimore
AFC Champ --------- SD
NFC Champ --------- CHI
SB Champ --------- SD

[spoon]

Sneaky picks:

QB - Palmer (will slip), Schaub (will get hurt but how bad?), Hasselbeck (should bounce back nicely, but no ground game again)

RB - White (in great shape), Bradshaw (Jacobs can't carry the load/stay healthy), Slaton (beefed up for 3 down work in future), Thomas (versatile back who stays healthy in NO), Wells (will be starter by week 4/5), Brown (i just don't think Addai will stay healthy and any back here can be gold)

WR - Colston (can be a steal in the NO vertical attack if healthy), Henry (TD machine and a Palmer favorite when healthy and Henry not suspended), Walter (up to Schaub again), Bennett (fellow vandy peep who will quickly be the #1 wr in chitown, but Forte and Olsen will hurt), Vincent Jackson (minus dui suspension looming, can break into elite ranks this year)

TE - Carlson (solid late last year set to be top 5 this year), Shockey (in awesome shape with top 5 qb throwing darts), Boss (another TE quickly filling wr holes on teams), Shaincoe (see Boss, although Harvin will help Farve soon enough), Celek (great hands and routes but not enough plays to go round here), Davis (breakout year? I'm not sold yet but could be a huge late pick if so), Finley (quickly taking over for Lee on passing downs with awesome hands and more experience in the Rogers air attack)

D - GB, SD and NYG should be better, but it really depends on your D scoring so I'll pass on this one.

[spoon]

Here's a new one, would Marshall be worth much on the Jets?

[El Mudo]

OK, let's play a little game of predictions we can visit again at the end of the year.

Fantasy MVP -Aaron Rodgers
Fantasy Bust - TO...he's got a bad toe, and Trent Edwards throwing him the ball
Best Rookie Production - James Davis
Top QB - Aaron Rodgers
Top RB - Matt Forte, if only because he catches the ball too. If he didn't, I'd take the Jacobs/Bradshaw combo, because their line is so good, and they play the AFC West this year
Top WR - Fitty. I would take Megatron, but Detroit is awful
Top TE - Witten. Dark horse is Jermichael Finley
Top K - Eh....they're all the same
Top D - Same here...but if I had to choose, probably a team from the NFC East
AFC Champ - Pittsburgh
NFC Champ - Green Bay
SB Champ - Green Bay



I'm not sold on Beanie because it seems like he gets hurt ALL THE TIME (and i'm not a fan of Big 10 backs in general). If I draft Wells, i'm gonna have to draft Hightower as well (and Wells doesn't catch the ball), and I think the Jacobs/Bradshaw combo is MUCH better, because that's probably the best offensive line in football.

[spoon]

Hey! I didn't say that!

And yes, Wells B10/injury issues are a little iffy but I think he's fine.

[foodcourtdruide]

Am I the only one that thinks T. Gonzalez will have a gigantic year?

[El Mudo]

Hey! I didn't say that!

And yes, Wells B10/injury issues are a little iffy but I think he's fine.


Sorry buddy!! :bye:

[El Mudo]

Am I the only one that thinks T. Gonzalez will have a gigantic year?


I don't seem him scoring a ton of TD's because I think they'll go to Turner in the red zone (and to a lesser extent, Norwood). Not sure he can really stretch the field any longer either.

[spoon]

Am I the only one that thinks T. Gonzalez will have a gigantic year?

He'll be a top TE, but not as big as last year. In KC, he WAS the offense and was targeted about 160 times. With the likes of the smash mouth attack of Turner, screen play of Norwood and wr target of white he'll definitely see less throws. They've already said he's going to be used as a blocker more, and I believe them as they had the lowest use of a TE in terms of catches and yards last year. Sure some of that was due to the talent there, but a lot has to do with the approach. I'm sure they won't let a huge asset block all year, and they have to validate the use of the 5th round pick they used to get him. Overall, I expect around 75 catches for ~ 850 yards with 7 TDs.

[foodcourtdruide]

He'll be a top TE, but not as big as last year. In KC, he WAS the offense and was targeted about 160 times. With the likes of the smash mouth attack of Turner, screen play of Norwood and wr target of white he'll definitely see less throws. They've already said he's going to be used as a blocker more, and I believe them as they had the lowest use of a TE in terms of catches and yards last year. Sure some of that was due to the talent there, but a lot has to do with the approach. I'm sure they won't let a huge asset block all year, and they have to validate the use of the 5th round pick they used to get him. Overall, I expect around 75 catches for ~ 850 yards with 7 TDs.

Eh, I guess I'll take it. Here's my starters:

QB - P. Manning
RB1 - Turner
RB2 - R. Brown
WR1 - Wes Welker
WR2 - Lee Evans
TE - T. Gonzalez
K - Akers
D - Pittsburgh

[spoon]

Eh, I guess I'll take it. Here's my starters:

QB - P. Manning
RB1 - Turner
RB2 - R. Brown
WR1 - Wes Welker
WR2 - Lee Evans
TE - T. Gonzalez
K - Akers
D - Pittsburgh

Really solid except at WR. I hope ur in a ppr league, if not, it's even worse. I like Evans as ur #2, but you don't have a true #1. Anyone on the bench as a sleeper here? If not, I think that would be a good move trying to sure up the position with some flyers.

[foodcourtdruide]

Really solid except at WR. I hope ur in a ppr league, if not, it's even worse. I like Evans as ur #2, but you don't have a true #1. Anyone on the bench as a sleeper here? If not, I think that would be a good move trying to sure up the position with some flyers.

Thanks. I agree, my WR are pretty weak. I have Donnie Avery and Mark Clayton on the bench though. I really like Donnie Avery.

No PPR.

[epo]

Fantasy MVP - Adrian Peterson
Fantasy Bust - Jay Cutler
Best Rookie Production - Mark Sanchez
Top QB - Aaron Rodgers
Top RB - Adrian Peterson
Top WR - Larry Fitzgerald
Top TE - Jermichael Finley (he's not just a sleeper, he's disgustingly good)
Top K - Meh...I can't grade kickers
Top D - Isn't Baltimore always the safe pick?
AFC Champ - New England
NFC Champ - Green Bay
SB Champ - Green Bay

[Fez4PrezN2008]

This yr, first time ever playing FF. Here is my draft picks
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BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>QB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Donnovan McNabb</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">PHI</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>QB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Eli Manning</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">NYG</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>RB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Chris Johnson</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">TEN</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>RB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Kevin Smith</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">DET</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>RB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Thomas Jones</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">NYJ</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>RB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Fred Taylor</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">NE</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>RB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">LeSean McCoy</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">PHI</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>WR</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Andre Johnson</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">HOU</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>WR</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Lee Evans</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">BUF</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>WR</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Eddie Royal</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">DEN</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>TE</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Dallas Clark</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">IND</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>TE</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Chris Cooley</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">WAS</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>D</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">New York Giants</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">NYG</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>D</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Green Bay Packers</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">GB</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>K</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">David Akers</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">PHI</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I am afraid that I wasted a pick on a 3rd QB. Which one should I drop and then get a WR or TE from the ww ? Advice?

[foodcourtdruide]

This yr, first time ever playing FF. Here is my draft picks
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 207pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=276 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 26pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 1280" width=35><COL style="WIDTH: 147pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 7168" width=196><COL style="WIDTH: 34pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 1645" width=45><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; WIDTH: 26pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=35 height=17>QB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; WIDTH: 147pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=196>Chad Pennington</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; WIDTH: 34pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=45>MIA</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>QB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Donnovan McNabb</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">PHI</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>QB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Eli Manning</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">NYG</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>RB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Chris Johnson</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">TEN</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>RB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Kevin Smith</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">DET</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>RB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Thomas Jones</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">NYJ</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>RB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Fred Taylor</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">NE</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>RB</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">LeSean McCoy</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">PHI</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>WR</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Andre Johnson</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">HOU</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>WR</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Lee Evans</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">BUF</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>WR</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Eddie Royal</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">DEN</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>TE</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Dallas Clark</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">IND</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>TE</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Chris Cooley</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">WAS</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>D</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">New York Giants</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">NYG</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>D</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Green Bay Packers</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">GB</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>K</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">David Akers</TD><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">PHI</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I am afraid that I wasted a pick on a 3rd QB. Which one should I drop and then get a WR or TE from the ww ? Advice?

Is it a 1QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 K / 1 DEF League?

If so, I love your WR, I'm really jealous, but I'm not crazy about your RB depth.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

Is it a 1QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 K / 1 DEF League?

If so, I love your WR, I'm really jealous, but I'm not crazy about your RB depth.
1QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1 RB/WR 1K 1D 8 bench. Yeah Andre is gonna be good. I am pretty happy w/ Johnson pick too. Oh and McNabb too.

[foodcourtdruide]

1QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1 RB/WR 1K 1D 8 bench. Yeah Andre is gonna be good. I am pretty happy w/ Johnson pick too. Oh and McNabb too.

McNabb scares me because of injuries, but I think McNabb/Eli backup is pretty good.

[El Mudo]

Here's the team I ended up with in my league:

QB-Drew Brees
QB-Aaron Rodgers
QB-Chad Pennington
RB-Ahmad Bradshaw
RB-Brandon Jacobs
RB-Pierre Thomas
RB-Willie Parker
WR/TE-Marques Colston
WR/TE-Domenik Hixon
WR/TE-Zach Miller
WR/TE-Donald Driver
WR/TE-Dallas Clark
DEF-Green Bay
DEF-Washington
K-Neil Rackers
K-Nick Folk

[epo]

Brees and Rodgers? That's alot of quarterback for 1 team.

[spoon]

Brees and Rodgers? That's alot of quarterback for 1 team.

Yah, I'd look to move one for an upgrade at wideout.

[underdog]

This is my non-keeper, money league. I draft 8 out of 10 teams. I also think its the only league that I wasn't able to land Jay Cutler as my backup QB. And I stupidly took Shockey as my backup TE, not realizing he has the same bye week as Gates.

Aaron Rodgers
Dwayne Bowe
Donnie Avery
Vincent Jackson
Steve Slaton
Brandon Jacobs
Antonio Gates
Earl Bennett
LenDale White
Trent Edwards
Percy Harvin
Jeremy Shockey
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Mason Crosby
Minnesota

[spoon]

This is my non-keeper, money league. I draft 8 out of 10 teams. I also think its the only league that I wasn't able to land Jay Cutler as my backup QB. And I stupidly took Shockey as my backup TE, not realizing he has the same bye week as Gates.

Aaron Rodgers
Dwayne Bowe
Donnie Avery
Vincent Jackson
Steve Slaton
Brandon Jacobs
Antonio Gates
Earl Bennett
LenDale White
Trent Edwards
Percy Harvin
Jeremy Shockey
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Mason Crosby
Minnesota

I think it's offical, the rf.net community is lacking in wideout strength. If anything, this points out eh lack of depth at the position this year until new faces emerge. Still, I like the upside for Bennett, but Bowe is top tier if Cassels can make it happen in KC. Overall, not a bad team though.

[epo]

I think it's offical, the rf.net community is lacking in wideout strength. If anything, this points out eh lack of depth at the position this year until new faces emerge.

I draft on Sunday. Hopefully I can help our depth.

[spoon]

I draft on Sunday. Hopefully I can help our depth.

I draft tomorrow, so I'll try too. The RB pool is deep so after getting a top back I may look to top tier QB or WR help. This makes me look at WR more and more.

[epo]

I draft tomorrow, so I'll try too. The RB pool is deep so after getting a top back I may look to top tier QB or WR help. This makes me look at WR more and more.

I'll probably be forced to out of necessity. I've got the #2 pick in a 12-team league. Picks 23 & 26 might good spots for a wideout.

Who do I take at #2?

[foodcourtdruide]

I draft tomorrow, so I'll try too. The RB pool is deep so after getting a top back I may look to top tier QB or WR help. This makes me look at WR more and more.

The problem is most leagues RB is most important stat position by far. My first two picks were 2 and 22, turner and brown.

[Suspect Chin]

Only doing one team this year (besides a salary cap league) and here it is:

QB - Warner, Roethlisberger, Flacco
RB - Michael Turner, Ronnie Brown, Le'Ron McClain, Jonathan Stewart, Jamaal Charles
WR - Houshmandzadeh, Braylon Edwards, Chris Henry
TE - John Carlson, Bo Scaife
D - Minnesota, San Diego
K - Stephen Gostkowski

I think its the best I've ever drafted. This is a $20 buy in league. Anyone in big money leagues?

[underdog]

I think it's offical, the rf.net community is lacking in wideout strength. If anything, this points out eh lack of depth at the position this year until new faces emerge. Still, I like the upside for Bennett, but Bowe is top tier if Cassels can make it happen in KC. Overall, not a bad team though.

WRs don't seem to put up many points in many leagues I'm in, so they're usually down the line of picks. I always draft Vincent Jackson, just hoping he'll finally turn into the WR he should be (I'm always disappointed). Also, Avery has a chance to really break out. And I think I drafted Bennett in every non-keeper league I'm in.

I had the #1 pick in one league (12 teams), and this is what I ended up with :


Peyton Manning
Anquan Boldin
Vincent Jackson
Adrian Peterson
Donald Brown
Antonio Gates
Santonio Holmes
Anthony Gonzalez
Matt Cassel
Ted Ginn Jr.
Michael Bush
Donald Lee
Nate Kaeding
Mario Williams
Michael Griffin
Josh Wilson
Justin Tuck
Karlos Dansby
Bradie James
Charles Woodson

My actual decent money league I'm in is a keeper league, and my football team was so awesome when I took it over like 3 years ago. I had Pacman Jones, Mike Vick, Sean Taylor, Plaxico Burress, and I'm sure other cursed players on it. That team sucks now.

[Suspect Chin]

Do you think Matt Cassel will do anything without the strength of NE to back him up?

[CuntagiousChris]

What's the deal with FF....I don't get it

[foodcourtdruide]

Do you think Matt Cassel will do anything without the strength of NE to back him up?

I wouldn't want him. I also think Matt Ryan will come back to Earth from last season.

[underdog]

Do you think Matt Cassel will do anything without the strength of NE to back him up?

Who knows. I just took him as my backup. If he has a huge year, then I have him and Manning. If not, I only have to use him one week.

There were a LOT of QBs I saw in drafts go really far down that were surprising. Tony Romo fell so far. Cassell was sometimes never drafted, Cutler was left for almost last for starting QBs. Aaron Rodgers got ignored a lot, too. Even Peyton Manning was falling, like he's suddenly going to be terrible this year.

[underdog]

What's the deal with FF....I don't get it

You draft players to your team and then get points based on what they do.

[Suspect Chin]

Who knows. I just took him as my backup. If he has a huge year, then I have him and Manning. If not, I only have to use him one week.

There were a LOT of QBs I saw in drafts go really far down that were surprising. Tony Romo fell so far. Cassell was sometimes never drafted, Cutler was left for almost last for starting QBs. Aaron Rodgers got ignored a lot, too. Even Peyton Manning was falling, like he's suddenly going to be terrible this year.

Same in my draft. There were several great QBs left at the end.

[Snoogans]

QB - Drew Brees
RB - Brandon Jacobs
RB - Ray Rice
WR - Wes Welker
WR - DeSean Jackson
WR/RB - Anthony Gonzalez
TE - Jason Witten
D/ST - Titans
K - Stephen Gostkowski

Bench
Derrick Mason - WR
Kerry Collins - QB
Vinciante Shiancoe - TE
Robbie Gould - K
Packers D/ST

[underdog]

QB - Drew Brees
RB - Brandon Jacobs
RB - Ray Rice
WR - Wes Welker
WR - DeSean Jackson
WR/RB - Anthony Gonzalez
TE - Jason Witten
D/ST - Titans
K - Stephen Gostkowski

Bench
Derrick Mason - WR
Kerry Collins - QB
Vinciante Shiancoe - TE
Robbie Gould - K
Packers D/ST

Fuck you and you stealing my players.

[spoon]

The winner in the league i run brings in almost a 1k, but it's not what I'd call big money. The total fee (based on moves and trades comes out to about 150 each (12 players usually). Winner takes 50% in it, and we pay out 4 spots.

As for Ryan, I think he'll actually put up a better year as a soph. Turner and White both have a good year under their belt, Norwood is a great change off pace, and the addition of Gonzo can only help. Another factor is how the coaching staff will also have a year under it's belt and know how to utilize their weapons better. I like Atlanta a lot on O, D isn't that solid though.

[Suspect Chin]

The winner in the league i run brings in almost a 1k, but it's not what I'd call big money. The total fee (based on moves and trades comes out to about 150 each (12 players usually). Winner takes 50% in it, and we pay out 4 spots.

As for Ryan, I think he'll actually put up a better year as a soph. Turner and White both have a good year under their belt, Norwood is a great change off pace, and the addition of Gonzo can only help. Another factor is how the coaching staff will also have a year under it's belt and know how to utilize their weapons better. I like Atlanta a lot on O, D isn't that solid though.


How do you keep everyone interested long enough to keep the money rolling in on moves? Every league I've been in usually has a couple run away leaders and the rest of the people just fade to the back and lose interest.

Even if everyone in the league is extremely competitive initially, a couple of bad weeks and you are so far behind that you really don't have a chance of catching up.

[Snoogans]

How do you keep everyone interested long enough to keep the money rolling in on moves? Every league I've been in usually has a couple run away leaders and the rest of the people just fade to the back and lose interest.

Even if everyone in the league is extremely competitive initially, a couple of bad weeks and you are so far behind that you really don't have a chance of catching up.

not have queers in the league

[Suspect Chin]

not have queers in the league

I test my leagues for homos every year but still people lost interest.

[spoon]

I test my leagues for homos every year but still people lost interest.

Well we also charge per loss more than moves cost...it works. People stand to lose more by sitting out versus keeping in it for the sake of the league and their wallet. Try it.

[El Mudo]

Yah, I'd look to move one for an upgrade at wideout.


I think its "solid". Not overly great, but just "solid". We start 3 WR/TE a week (although we can start up to 4 and 1 RB), so I'm just counting on the production from my RBs and QBs to carry me. The way the draft worked out, I had the 10th pick (in a 12 team league); I took Brees with the first pick, then took Jacobs with the 2d and Colston with the 3d. Rodgers was STILL THERE in the 4th round...I couldn't leave him on the board.

Both those QBs are such huge scorers that i'm afraid of dealing one of them to someone else, and then having them beat me with them. Its more of a "keeping them from other people" thing (I had to draft Pennington with one of my extra player picks because I stupidly didn't look at the bye weeks to see that NO and GB have the same bye).

[foodcourtdruide]

Colston/S. Hill for Welker/Garrard?

[Snoogans]

you should trade for Brees

[foodcourtdruide]

In my league Brees went 3 overall.

[Snoogans]

In my league Brees went 3 overall.

he went 11th in mine

[underdog]

he went 11th in mine

HE SHOULD HAVE GONE 12TH!

[Snoogans]

HE SHOULD HAVE GONE 12TH!

waa waa. Tell it to Stephen Gostkowski....oh wait he isnt on your team either

[epo]

Matt Forte or Maurice Jones-Drew?

Your answer....NOW!

[Ogre]

Jones Drew. He is will have 60+ catches as well as 1500 yds rushing. Fred Taylor is gone to take touches away. He did leave the Washington game with a shin bruise tough.

[cougarjake13]

Matt Forte or Maurice Jones-Drew?

Your answer....NOW!

def mjd

[Ogre]

In a scenario where you have the #2 overall and assuming A Peterson is #1. Turner, MJD or DeAngelo Williams?

[epo]

In a scenario where you have the #2 overall and assuming A Peterson is #1. Turner, MJD or DeAngelo Williams?

Exactly. Except I HATE the thought of Turner or Williams.

So I've reduced it to Jones-Drew or Forte.

[Ogre]

If your league is PPR then MJD has a slight advantage over Forte. Cutler not so big on pass attempts to RBs in Denver. Also MJD had the best success rate last year from a goal line situation. Running Backs with at least 5 or more carries from the 1 or 2 yd line last lear MJD was 8 TDs in 9 attempts while Forte was 3TDs in 9 attempts. Turner was 8 for 13. D William was 6 for 7 inside the 2.

[Ogre]

Also I know last year don't mean nothing but this years schedule difficulty based on last year's records are

Easiest: Chicago opp win % .414

Atlanta : 29th with and opp. win % of .588
That's another reason to like Forte ahead of Turner

[spoon]

If your league is PPR then MJD has a slight advantage over Forte. Cutler not so big on pass attempts to RBs in Denver. Also MJD had the best success rate last year from a goal line situation. Running Backs with at least 5 or more carries from the 1 or 2 yd line last lear MJD was 8 TDs in 9 attempts while Forte was 3TDs in 9 attempts. Turner was 8 for 13. D William was 6 for 7 inside the 2.

If it's PPR, Forte gets more value, not MJD. Forte tied for the lead in receptions for an RB last year, even though MJD was only one down (Forte 11th in rushing vs. MJD 32nd). My point here is Forte had Grossman throwing to him, he was a rookie and wasn't used as much earlier, and now has Cutler ready to dump it off to him and Olsen due to lack of wideout depth. I feel that Garrard isn't as adept at moving teams into scoring position, even if Cutler does make dumb mistakes that he won't. The addition of diabetes boy will surely open up the holes more for Forte who will have a full year under his belt. Sure as shit I could be wrong, but I would take Forte over MJD right now.

[TheGameHHH]

Is offering Housh and Welker too much for Slaton, should I just offer one of them? I want Slaton and I'm willing to deal Housh, Welker and Cotchery. Which one or combo of them should I offer?

[spoon]

My team in my money league with 12 teams. I picked 4th. We start 1 qb, 2rbs, 2 wrs.

QB1 Aaron Rodgers
QB2 Eli Manning

RB1 Matt Forte
RB2 Lendale White
RB3 Thomas Jones

WR1 Andre Johnson
WR2 Anthony Gonzalez
WR3 Brandon Marshall

TE John Carlson

K Neil Rackers

Def Pittsburgh

[spoon]

Is offering Housh and Welker too much for Slaton, should I just offer one of them? I want Slaton and I'm willing to deal Housh, Welker and Cotchery. Which one or combo of them should I offer?

Try Cotch and the lesser other wr in your mind first. If he turns it down, it allows you to "sweeten" the pot.

[TheGameHHH]

Try Cotch and the lesser other wr in your mind first. If he turns it down, it allows you to "sweeten" the pot.

thats what im thinking, halfway through my post i forgot i had Cotch sitting on my bench too. I'll prob. offer Cotch and Welker.

[Ogre]

If it's PPR, Forte gets more value, not MJD. Forte tied for the lead in receptions for an RB last year, even though MJD was only one down (Forte 11th in rushing vs. MJD 32nd). My point here is Forte had Grossman throwing to him, he was a rookie and wasn't used as much earlier, and now has Cutler ready to dump it off to him and Olsen due to lack of wideout depth. I feel that Garrard isn't as adept at moving teams into scoring position, even if Cutler does make dumb mistakes that he won't. The addition of diabetes boy will surely open up the holes more for Forte who will have a full year under his belt. Sure as shit I could be wrong, but I would take Forte over MJD right now.

Your right it is a crap shoot. They (Bears) did look pretty good the little I have seen of them this year. Just when you think you have it figured out someone comes along and blows up your theories. Now I am looking at Forte. The schedule is the easiest in the NFL, but they (Bears) finish with GB @BAL and MINN as the wk 14 15 16. Divisional games at home in the Chicago cold.:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash: shit shit shit. :unsure::surrender:

[ronjock58]

new league, autodraft 9-10-09 at http://games.espn.go.com/frontpage/football password is fezzy

[disneyspy]

new league, autodraft 9-10-09 at http://games.espn.go.com/frontpage/football password is fezzy

i cant stay up late for the other drafts,does this let you make your picks then drafts for you?

please explain autodraft to me

[RhinoinMN]

Search, search, hurry up and search. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=83169)

[disneyspy]

dont worry,checked it out and moved my rankings around,very nice,i'm in this one,thanks for setting it up,this is for 'ron and fez fans' right?

[Ogre]

Have 3 spots left in Yahoo League Carnies and Rubes 2K9 (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/register/joinprivateleague_league_select?.scrumb=)

ID # 232307

password hey

Draft Wed the 10th at 730 edt

Come one come all

[spoon]

Yes Minn, I saw ur thread which was all about advice. This is an all things fantasy football and league talk, smack talk and of course bad jokes aplenty by bad board characters.

Anyone think Marshall will be traded in the end in that Denver situation or is he stuck on that shithole team? I'd LOVE for him to go to a good team in the NFC with a good QB now.

[TripleSkeet]

My starting lineup in all 3 leagues:

League 1 - 10 Teams
QB Matt Ryan
RB Westbrook
RB Tomlinson
WR V. Jackson
WR B. Edwards
Flex Barber
TE Clark
K Crosby
D Vikings

League 2 - 10 Teams
QB Roethlisberger
RB Jones Drew
RB Grant
WR Boldin
WR Bowe
Flex Desean Jackson
TE Keller
K Longwell
D Vikings

League 3 - 12 Teams
QB Roethlisberger
RB Grant
RB Forte
WR Colston
WR Welker
TE Witten
K Bironas
D Titans

[spoon]

Pending on how each league scores, your weakness seems to be at QB. I think Ryan will win, but not put up huge fantasy numbers. He and Ben win/manage games, but Ryan does have the potential to jump with the addition of Gonzo.

[TripleSkeet]

Basic scoring system. League one gives you PPR, in League 2 Defense is important and could get you negative points if bad.

I never put a high value on QB's after the first 2 or 3. My backups are guys like Favre and Quinn. I put higher priority or RB's and WR's.

[spoon]

Basic scoring system. League one gives you PPR, in League 2 Defense is important and could get you negative points if bad.

I never put a high value on QB's after the first 2 or 3. My backups are guys like Favre and Quinn. I put higher priority or RB's and WR's.

Oh I agree, it's the position to let slip if any. Hell, last year I won with fucking Favre! This year I had lots of sneak picks that I knew would be available so I went early for me with the QB selection, and the other top QBs were moving. Hence I ended up with Rodgers in the tail end of the third round. He simply had more upside than a whole mess of mid-level WRs and RBs.

[disneyspy]

new league, autodraft 9-10-09 at http://games.espn.go.com/frontpage/football password is fezzy

this is so easy even a cavewoman can do it.just checked,8 spots still open,set your picks now draft is automatic and happens at 5AM TOMMOROW MORNIN! the draft positions look pretty much as you guys have picked so you may as well get in a draft you can bitch about later.

[walking joint]

I also wouldn't reach for a TE this year either. There are a ton of good ones that you can get as the 8-12th drafted TE. I think I have Celek or Shiancoe on all of my teams. I'll take the extra depth at RB/WR and let someone else have Gates/Witten.

[spoon]

I also wouldn't reach for a TE this year either. There are a ton of good ones that you can get as the 8-12th drafted TE. I think I have Celek or Shiancoe on all of my teams. I'll take the extra depth at RB/WR and let someone else have Gates/Witten.

Agreed, I got Carlson at the end of my draft. Not to mention players like Boss, Finley and others are still out there available.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I keep gettin trade offers for Chris Henry, I firmly believe that Henry will be the 1 WR for the Bungholes


my play is to wait 3 weeks, either he is crap and I dont get offers, or I get get top tier offers for a second to last round pick



also what is your take on Cedric Benson, I have him on another team, got him real late also, had to get a 4th RB when I have Parker and Portis

[spoon]

I keep gettin trade offers for Chris Henry, I firmly believe that Henry will be the 1 WR for the Bungholes


my play is to wait 3 weeks, either he is crap and I dont get offers, or I get get top tier offers for a second to last round pick



also what is your take on Cedric Benson, I have him on another team, got him real late also, had to get a 4th RB when I have Parker and Portis

First on Henry, expect tds and big plays, but not every week. He'll go double digit tds if both Palmer stays on the field and he himself stays out of trouble. He'll be a pretty good sleeper wideout, but the trade would hinge on what was offered in my mind. Henry is a classic big risk/big reward player. I wanted him in my TD only league, not sure if the yardage and receptions will add up bc he's still only the #3. Yet when the #4 with Palmer he put up good TD numbers and average rec/yards when Palmer is rolling.

Benson is almost on the same page as Henry and the rest of the Cincy O, it all hinges on Palmer. However, if I were you I'd be looking for more RB help as you even noted the likes of fragile back Parker and Portis. If the Cincy O is led by Palmer, it will score. Yet both Leonard and DD Dorsey will take carries here as Cincy like most teams will eventually employ an rb by committee approach.

[hanso]

My team (I think I did alright).
QB Tom Brady
WR Randy Moss
WR Santana Moss
WR Devin Hester
RB Ronnie Brown
RB Ricky Williams
TE Tony Gonzalez
DEF Minnesota

[disneyspy]

My team (I think I did alright).
QB Tom Brady
WR Randy Moss
WR Santana Moss
WR Devin Hester
RB Ronnie Brown
RB Ricky Williams
TE Tony Gonzalez
DEF Minnesota

you'd a been better off lettin the computer pick for you

last chance to get in the autodraft

CMON FUCKERS THERES ONLY 2 OF US SIGNED UP!!!

[hanso]

Thats what it was.
I pre-edited it.

[disneyspy]

Thats what it was.
I pre-edited it.

are there two autodraft leagues?

[spoon]

Well it fucked your rb spot.

[hanso]

Its Yahoo.
I just pick auto draft evertime.
But pre edit the rankings.

[disneyspy]

Its Yahoo.
I just pick auto draft evertime.
But pre edit the rankings.

ah,there an espn one that drafts at 5AM tommorow,ive pre-edited it too,cuz spendin time while people draft on the internet is too long,too boring and too gay

[hanso]

Well it fucked your rb spot.
Yeah it did. That is a weakness.
It seemed that there was an over abundance of them.
So I went for WR first.

I'm hoping Brady, Moss x2 and Gonzo might carry the team at times.

D ward is my backup RB and I put in for Leon Washington of the Jets.

[hanso]

ah,there an espn one that drafts at 5AM tommorow,ive pre-edited it too,cuz spendin time while people draft on the internet is too long,too boring and too gay

Yeah it is or if you miss it live your screwed.
I tried it live a few times but have been doing it this way.
Seems to work well most times.

[disneyspy]

Yeah it is or if you miss it live your screwed.
I tried it live a few times but have been doing it this way.
Seems to work well most times.

try the one on post #80 of this thread,it wont be too much fun kickin the shit out of one guy

[underdog]

are there two autodraft leagues?

You can autodraft in every league. If you don't show up for the live draft, it autodrafts for you.

[disneyspy]

You can autodraft in every league. If you don't show up for the live draft, it autodrafts for you.

i didnt know this,thanks,i'll keep that in mind for next year

[ronjock58]

Sorry that you won't be getting to kick the shit out of me weekly.

[disneyspy]

Sorry that you won't be getting to kick the shit out of me weekly.

repost the link,this is the only pool im in this year and was lookin forward to kickin the shit out of you weekly

[ronjock58]

new league, autodraft 9-10-09 at http://games.espn.go.com/frontpage/football password is fezzy http://games.espn.go.com/frontpage/football

[Suspect Chin]

Should I start Roethlisberger tonight vs. the Titans or Kurt Warner on Sunday vs. the Niners?

I thought Warner was the obvious start, but he had a poor preseason and is old. Roethlisberger threw for 300 yards and 2 TDs last year vs. the Titans.

I guess I should have thought about this earlier than 1 hour from kickoff.

[spoon]

Should I start Roethlisberger tonight vs. the Titans or Kurt Warner on Sunday vs. the Niners?

I thought Warner was the obvious start, but he had a poor preseason and is old. Roethlisberger threw for 300 yards and 2 TDs last year vs. the Titans.

I guess I should have thought about this earlier than 1 hour from kickoff.

Warner. He's a percision/rhythm passer who needs crisp clean routes. The preseason is just that, but I do expect a decent fall off for him, his stats and his team this year. Still, Roth is in a weird place right now and coming off a SB win to face a team that plays decent D versus the comparison for the Niners.

[Ogre]

Warner. He's a percision/rhythm passer who needs crisp clean routes. The preseason is just that, but I do expect a decent fall off for him, his stats and his team this year. Still, Roth is in a weird place right now and coming off a SB win to face a team that plays decent D versus the comparison for the Niners.

I agree with Warner falling off. I would go as far as to say he might even struggle and only play about 12 games due to getting nicked up. He really hasn't played two full consecutive seasons without an injury. In 1999 He lights it up he misses 5 games in 2000. IN 2001 he lights it up for 4800 yds and follows that with 7 games in 02 and 2 games in 03. His 1 yr with the Giants 2004 he started only 9 games and was injured and horrible. Played in 14 in 07 and we know about the 16 starts for 4500 yds in 2008. I say 12 games for 2800 yds and 15 TDs.

I have Ben in one of my leagues and was hesitant starting him last night, he had a good night but I dont expect 350 yds out of him every week either.

[spoon]

Ok, Anthony Gonzalez may be out 2-6 weeks so I have a spot to pick someone up. Who would you lock in, Cedric Benson (Cincy), Crayton (Dallas) with Romo possibly injured, Henderson (NO) or someone else off the radar? Any suggestions or news on Romo?

[underdog]

Ok, Anthony Gonzalez may be out 2-6 weeks so I have a spot to pick someone up. Who would you lock in, Cedric Benson (Cincy), Crayton (Dallas) with Romo possibly injured, Henderson (NO) or someone else off the radar? Any suggestions or news on Romo?

Henderson might be a good add. If Brees keeps it up, he's going to catch a lot of balls.

[TripleSkeet]

Ok, Anthony Gonzalez may be out 2-6 weeks so I have a spot to pick someone up. Who would you lock in, Cedric Benson (Cincy), Crayton (Dallas) with Romo possibly injured, Henderson (NO) or someone else off the radar? Any suggestions or news on Romo?

How is Henderson even available in your league????

[Snoogans]

How is Henderson even available in your league????

he is available in ours too. I have a waiver claim but i might be too awesome

[spoon]

he is available in ours too.

HA!

There are ALWAYS decent WRs available if you dig deep enough. And my league only has 2 wr spots and 3 bench so this means only 24 starting wrs and usually 1 on everyone's bench. That means ~36 WRs taken, leaving a TON of #2's remaining. It really is quite simple.

[TripleSkeet]

HA!

There are ALWAYS decent WRs available if you dig deep enough. And my league only has 2 wr spots and 3 bench so this means only 24 starting wrs and usually 1 on everyone's bench. That means ~36 WRs taken, leaving a TON of #2's remaining. It really is quite simple.

Oh well then it makes sense. In all the leagues Im in each team can get at least 5 WR's (2 starters, 3 bench) so the number 2 receiver on a team that has a Top 3 offense in the league wasnt going to be found on the waiver wire.

[Ogre]

This year there is a definite drop in production and value once you get past the top 15 WRs. that is why in some of these leagues that have 3 WR and a Flex player the talent pool was diluted rather early. I used to draft RB RB right out of the gate no matter what the draft position, now it seems it feels like that's the way to go with receivers. Most teams RB by committee so the days of the stud RB, once you get past the top 5, are all but gone, The consistent point production will come from WR and QBs this year and for the next few going forward.

[spoon]

This year there is a definite drop in production and value once you get past the top 15 WRs. that is why in some of these leagues that have 3 WR and a Flex player the talent pool was diluted rather early. I used to draft RB RB right out of the gate no matter what the draft position, now it seems it feels like that's the way to go with receivers. Most teams RB by committee so the days of the stud RB, once you get past the top 5, are all but gone, The consistent point production will come from WR and QBs this year and for the next few going forward.

Exactly why I got one of those top 5 RBs and went wr in the second round. I then took two more WRs after grabbing Rodgers at the QB slot. Knowing nobody was big on my TE I had all but locked in on, Carlson, I was able to wait until REALLY late at this position. Hell, Finley will be a steal in about 3 more weeks in GB as well, so TEs to me were actually deep too. I felt it was key to get a top RB/WR combo, with one of the big 4 at QB (not Warner). I truly think Leinart will start by the end of the year as Warner HAS to drop off this year and or get injured as per his normal routine. We'll see, as week one backed me up, but one week a season doesn't make.

[epo]

As soon as GB fixes the right tackle position, Finley will get freed up to run a lot more routes. That kid is a beast waiting to happen.

[spoon]

As soon as GB fixes the right tackle position, Finley will get freed up to run a lot more routes. That kid is a beast waiting to happen.

It sure would be nice to keep Rodgers upright and throwing multiple TDs every game. Lee is clearly a better blocker too, so this hits Finley in multiple ways right now.

[epo]

It sure would be nice to keep Rodgers upright and throwing multiple TDs every game. Lee is clearly a better blocker too, so this hits Finley in multiple ways right now.

From what I read, Allen Barbre will start again this week against the Bengals. If he shits the bed again, they'll consider moving T.J. Lang to right tackle...which would be a definite upgrade at this point.

That would free Finley to get out into routes...which would be a very positive development for Rodgers' FF owners.

[hanso]

My team (I think I did alright).
QB Tom Brady
WR Randy Moss
WR Santana Moss
WR Devin Hester
RB Leon Washington / Ronnie Brown
RB Willis McGahee / Ricky Williams
TE Tony Gonzalez
DEF Minnesota
Update
Who needs a 2nd kicker right? Got Willis McGahee for mine.
But after seeing D Ward's td I wonder if that was a good move dropping him for Leon Washington.
T.B is said to have a RB by committee however.

[TripleSkeet]

Went 3 for 3 in my leagues last week. Gotta love that since its so rare.

[spoon]

Hmmmmm, I have two tough calls.

Pick 2 for each:

Thomas Jones home vs NE
Forte home vs Pitt
White home vs Houston

Marshall home vs Clev
S. Holmes @ Chicago
Andre Johnson @ Tenn

So far I'm 1-0, would like to continue a run I'm on since my championship last year. Nobody has EVER repeated in my money league, and I'm tie right now with 2 championships since we started this. I'd like to get they ole' name on the plaque again here.

[Servo]

Two questions:

Flacco or Rivers? (They play each other.)

As a #3 WR, Bernard Berrian or Justin Gage? (I got burned by this last week, with Gage playing Thursday night and Berrian's status coming to light on Friday... Gage was already left on the bench, and I took a 0 from Berrian - I wound up losing by 15 points, and Gage would have given me 16.5.)

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Cedric Benson vs the Pac in Green Bay or Percy Harvin (at Detroit) /Josh Morgan ( at Seattle)

[spoon]

Two questions:

Flacco or Rivers? (They play each other.)

As a #3 WR, Bernard Berrian or Justin Gage? (I got burned by this last week, with Gage playing Thursday night and Berrian's status coming to light on Friday... Gage was already left on the bench, and I took a 0 from Berrian - I wound up losing by 15 points, and Gage would have given me 16.5.)

I EASILY go Rivers bc he's not only straight up better overall and fantasy wise, but bc his running game took a hit and they'll be using a short passing game to supplement the lack of run. Both LT and THREE starting OL are injured, with only the LT said ready to play (McNeil). Both the RG (Vasquez) and C (Hardwick) are out, and bc of this, Mruczkowski moves from backup RG to Center and the third RG comes in or better know as, Free Agent pickup of the week formerly from Jacksonville. Dennis Norman is a natural center, yet it'll take some time to get the playbook down. I'm not sure if he'll go right to center, but I doubt it. I expect him to be in at RG if at all, but if Hardwick's ankle is worse than they say, I'd expect Mruczkowski to be back at RG and Norman at C in a few weeks. LT is claiming to be decent, but I doubt they'll risk much there. Expect lots of screens and outside runs to Bennett and Sproles.

On a side note, the Chargers waived their only young RB and recent 4th rounder out of Col state to pick up the much needed OL and DL help. However they intended it to go down, it didn't work, bc that guy was NOT going to clear waivers and end up on the practice squad. Congrats Giant fans, you just got ANOTHER good RB who loves to pound the ball. For a rookie, he ran REALLY well in the preseason and is a VERY aggressive runner. I'm not so sure this was a good move at all.

Finally, I'd go Gage in the WR department. I just don't trust injury issues and going against Houston is a gem.

[spoon]

Cedric Benson vs the Pac in Green Bay or Percy Harvin (at Detroit) /Josh Morgan ( at Seattle)

In flex situations I usually go RB as long as you know he'll get his carries. Any wr can smoke you, but I expect Palmer to play much better this week and keep his team close to a good GB team. Don't underestimate that Cincy D, it's really pretty good. However, GB can score on anyone.

[spoon]

oh and no advice for spoon huh?

i see how this works!! :annoyed:

[King Hippos Bandaid]

oh and no advise for spoon huh?

i see how this works!! :annoyed:

my advice is to use advise in its proper text

[spoon]

oops, typo you cock licker.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

oops, typo you cock licker.


I learned cock licking from you



your choices are Forte and Andre Johnson



Forte is gonna get the ball alot to keep him happy fuck Lendale and T.J is a good choice also, just he will give up lots of offense to Leon

Andre Johnson will blow up if you dont start him ... fuck the others

[spoon]

I learned cock licking from you



your choices are Forte and Andre Johnson



Forte is gonna get the ball alot to keep him happy fuck Lendale and T.J is a good choice also, just he will give up lots of offense to Leon

Andre Johnson will blow up if you dont start him ... fuck the others

I start two in each cat hippo. Reading, isn't it fun! Suck it typo nazi!

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I start two in each cat hippo. Reading, isn't it fun! Suck it typo nazi!


Oh: then T.J and Forte

Holmes and Johnson




Marshall missed some easy catches, he is not there yet... fucking child

[spoon]

Oh: then T.J and Forte

Holmes and Johnson




Marshall missed some easy catches, he is not there yet... fucking child

So now I know, start Lendale and Marshall definitely. Thanks spittle hippo! :wink:

[Spittle Hippo]

So now I know, start Lendale and Marshall definitely. Thanks spittle hippo! :wink:

Hey, don't lump me in with that crusie boy asshole you prick.

[spoon]

Splatter Zone!

[Servo]

Oh: then T.J and Forte

Holmes and Johnson




Marshall missed some easy catches, he is not there yet... fucking child

FWIW, I concur with hippo.

Thanks for the advice spoon!

[Ogre]

Agreed on Andre Johnson as well. I have Steve Smith in one of my leagues and even though DelHomey is putrid right now, if I sit him he'll fuck me and have a 4 td game. Always start your best players, no matter the match up.

[spoon]

Agreed on Andre Johnson as well. I have Steve Smith in one of my leagues and even though DelHomey is putrid right now, if I sit him he'll fuck me and have a 4 td game. Always start your best players, no matter the match up.

Yah I pretty much agree, but I like to put the whole picture out there. I expect a 7/112/1TD type game out of Andre.

[Ogre]

Yah I pretty much agree, but I like to put the whole picture out there. I expect a 7/112/1TD type game out of Andre.

Yeah I know what you mean I picked Forte with that second overall pick I was lamenting about earlier. Scary that this week he plays the Steelers and I HAVE to start him

[hammersavage]

Yeah I know what you mean I picked Forte with that second overall pick I was lamenting about earlier. Scary that this week he plays the Steelers and I HAVE to start him

It's really a tough call to start Slaton or Forte this week, both up against great run defenses coming off of subpar weeks. You usually have to play your best players, but if you are deep enough, sometimes you have to make a tough sit.

[Ogre]

It's really a tough call to start Slaton or Forte this week, both up against great run defenses coming off of subpar weeks. You usually have to play your best players, but if you are deep enough, sometimes you have to make a tough sit.

That's when they fuck you at the Drive Thru

[Ogre]

Rothlesmonster is against a wounded but still very good Bears D. Or Breakout sensation Jooooee Flacco of dem der Ravens hon goin against the San Diego Super Chargers ? The Chargers D looked suspect against Oakland.

What to do ? At first flinch I said Ben but now I am not so sure. Anyone ? Anyone?:unsure:

[TripleSkeet]

I scored 162 points in my one league and still lost. Un-fucking-real. Fucking Chris Johnson. Thats the worst when you blow up have the second highest score for week and are playing the guy that got high week. I lost by 7.

[cougarjake13]

I scored 162 points in my one league and still lost. Un-fucking-real. Fucking Chris Johnson. Thats the worst when you blow up have the second highest score for week and are playing the guy that got high week. I lost by 7.

how many points did johnson have

[hanso]

I had 14 pts among 4 starters.
Had i played r brown rb rather then L washington.
I would have won.

[Snoogans]

I scored 162 points in my one league and still lost. Un-fucking-real. Fucking Chris Johnson. Thats the worst when you blow up have the second highest score for week and are playing the guy that got high week. I lost by 7.

you woulda lost to the guy in our league who has chris johnson too. He put up 169. Also thanks to him having Gore too

my starting RBs put up a whopping 10 points combined but i still pulled the victory off because of Brew Brees and awesome Steve Smith (Giants) who kevin cut like 3 days before that game

[King Hippos Bandaid]

someone in my roto league had Gore, Johnson and Dallas Clark'


had over 200 points




am pissed I did not take Manningham last week,, I listen to the CBS and ESPN pencil neck geeks that said he is not a viable fantasy option

[Snoogans]

someone in my roto league had Gore, Johnson and Dallas Clark'


had over 200 points




am pissed I did not take Manningham last week,, I listen to the CBS and ESPN pencil neck geeks that said he is not a viable fantasy option

DONT TAKE ANY FUCKIN GIANTS FAT BOY. I bet you have brandon jacobs, and thats why he sucks so bad

[King Hippos Bandaid]

DONT TAKE ANY FUCKIN GIANTS FAT BOY. I bet you have brandon jacobs, and thats why he sucks so bad


I have Eli, but he doesnt start....

Jacobs was available, but I did not pick him

I picked a WR before my 2nd RB and stole Cedric Benson in the later rounds

[TheGameHHH]

sadly im not joking when i say this, should i start cotchery or tomlinson? im heavily leaning toward cotch

[Snoogans]

sadly im not joking when i say this, should i start cotchery or tomlinson? im heavily leaning toward cotch

you lost last week to someone whose starting WRs were Steve Smith of the Giants, Kelley Washington and Kenny Britt. Does it really matter?

[hanso]

sadly im not joking when i say this, should i start cotchery or tomlinson? im heavily leaning toward cotch

Look at who has the hot streak.
And what team they are playing.

I got Flaco for Pennington off waivers 1 week before he went down.
Played him over Brady. Will do same this w/e.
I don't remember this time wait for waivers at game time. (3 days)?
To get players even if they didn't start that day. (yahoo).
Don't like it much. But free stat tracker is nice.

[spoon]

The Roth vs Flacco arg is a good one this year. The last time Roth had a good fantasy stat year was when his running game was off after they won the super bowl, which is exactly what is happening now. As a team they were off, but his stats were solid. They have the receiving core, but Holmes is off of late.

Flacco and the Ravens O has done nothing but pick up after losing their "offensive genius" coach of old. Ha! I like the way they moved the ball thus far, and seemingly lean this way right now.

[spoon]

My questions:

WR: Pick one
Holmes vs SD
Marshall vs Dal

TE: Pick one
Davis vs St. L
Carlson @ Indy

[TripleSkeet]

how many points did johnson have

He had 53 that week. The next week, I put up 125 and lost to someone that had Manning and Jones -Drew. They put up 178. 2nd week in a row I was second highest scorer and lost. Im 1-2 in that league, and 3-0 in my other 2 leagues.

[foodcourtdruide]

I have Steelers defense, but I'm sitting them and starting Cinci vs the Browns. Am I stupid?

[Snoogans]

My questions:

WR: Pick one
Holmes vs SD
Marshall vs Dal

TE: Pick one
Davis vs St. L
Carlson @ Indy

Holmes Davis

[hanso]

I have Steelers defense, but I'm sitting them and starting Cinci vs the Browns. Am I stupid?
No I would not say so.
It is a tuff choice. S.D. played well last week vs S.F. who's defense is said to be good.(W26-7).
However in the past when Cinci vs the Browns have played it could lead to high scores. Kinda an interstate battle thing.
I would look for injuries/who's starting & base it on that.

[spoon]

No I would not say so.
It is a tuff choice. S.D. played well last week vs S.F. who's defense is said to be good.(W26-7).
However in the past when Cinci vs the Browns have played it could lead to high scores. Kinda an interstate battle thing.
I would look for injuries/who's starting & base it on that.

I have pitt's d too, what a letdown

[spoon]

RB: pick one

Jones @ NO
White @ Jax
Brown vs Seattle

[Ogre]

Jax run D is pretty poor. White will get some touches (goalline), but Johnson is the man there. New Orleans D is not to be trifled with, NYJ could get behind early to Brees and Co. and abandon the run. Seattle's run D is not that bad, save for two long runs to Gore they have bottled up opponents running backs to a degree, plus Addai is your starter there.

Tennessee HAS to win this game so I imagine they will work early to establish tempo by runrunrun. I do not see them designing a game plan to win it on Collins arm.

LenDale White.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

RB: pick one

Jones @ NO
White @ Jax
Brown vs Seattle


Jones.......


Brown and White see much less carries anbd have a much lesser role

[Spagett]

For my flex

Welker vs. Bal (if he plays)
or
Mike Sims-Walker vs. Ten

[King Hippos Bandaid]

For my flex

Welker vs. Bal (if he plays)
or
Mike Sims-Walker vs. Ten

Welker if he plays


the other dude if he doesnt

[Spagett]

Welker if he plays


the other dude if he doesnt

Thanks for the insight wizard

[hanso]

RB: pick one

Jones @ NO
White @ Jax
Brown vs Seattle

Whites name jumped up first for me.
However looking at notes.
He is listed in Injuries list as is Jones.
NO def stats look well. Also Ten and Jax have played bad as of late.
Brown is said to now split time in backfield.
And Sea is banged up. So Ind. could roll over Sea. Which would lead to many carries for both backs.
Brown is my pick.

[Spagett]

Whites name jumped up first for me.
However looking at notes.
He is listed in Injuries list as is Jones.
NO def stats look well. Also Ten and Jax have played bad as of late.
Brown is said to now split time in backfield.
And Sea is banged up. So Ind. could roll over Sea. Which would lead to many carries for both backs.
Brown is my pick.

Def go Brown.

[BlackKen]

For my flex

Welker vs. Bal (if he plays)
or
Mike Sims-Walker vs. Ten

Ten pass defense has been shit kid. Walker is gonna blow up soon. Welker is coming off injury with a timid Brady against fucking baltimore. Do not listen to hippo

[spoon]

Yah, never go against the hyphens with Jax!

[hanso]

Ten pass defense has been shit kid. Walker is gonna blow up soon. Welker is coming off injury with a timid Brady against fucking baltimore. Do not listen to hippo
I should have played him.
21 pts
Rather then .2 that D Hester got.
He did get that last minute td last week.

Now I'm a big Vikes/Farve fan to get my win. (got kicker & Def.).

[spoon]

My questions:

WR: Pick one
Holmes vs SD
Marshall vs Dal

TE: Pick one
Davis vs St. L
Carlson @ Indy

RB: pick one

Jones @ NO
White @ Jax
Brown vs Seattle

I ended up going Marshall, Davis and Jones (actually dropped Carlson and will try to pick him back up when hass comes back). I'm pretty happy, yet I didn't play my gut and pick up Sims-Walker. I knew he was going to be big if he ever stayed healthy.

Oh and lest I forget, FUCK NORV TURNER AND RIVERA TOO.

[spoon]

I did however drop Holmes for Sims-Walker too...which looks even better with the way they ran the ball on soon to be fired/should never had gotten the job norv turner/rivera's awful D.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Just a few thoughts on the show's league. You don't need to know anything bout football to play. Someone like mooch could easily get espn's ff daily podcast and succceed by following their pretty simple instructions to improve a team. Guys get way too into having "their" team's guys on their fantasy team(Dave ) and that always screws them. Fez has no interest in this. Quite obvious when you're starting someone on a bye.

[Servo]

A guy in my league has Larry Fitz on the trading block, looking for a RB in return. I'd like to get my hands on him. My starting receivers are Andre Johnson and Roy Williams, who sat out of practice today due to his banged up ribs. I have Ray Rice, Kevin Smith and Pierre Thomas to offer in exchange. Should I try to make a deal for Fitzgerald?

[TheGameHHH]

A guy in my league has Larry Fitz on the trading block, looking for a RB in return. I'd like to get my hands on him. My starting receivers are Andre Johnson and Roy Williams, who sat out of practice today due to his banged up ribs. I have Ray Rice, Kevin Smith and Pierre Thomas to offer in exchange. Should I try to make a deal for Fitzgerald?

are u packaging them or trying to go one for one?

[Servo]

are u packaging them or trying to go one for one?

I'd like to do a one for one. I also have some depth at TE with Gonzalez and Davis, and at QB with Flacco and Rivers, so I could sweeten the pot there if I have to.

[TheGameHHH]

I'd like to do a one for one. I also have some depth at TE with Gonzalez and Davis, and at QB with Flacco and Rivers, so I could sweeten the pot there if I have to.

who's putting up the least points for you? you gotta start low if you want him (never offer your best deal first), then work towards your best ideal package that wouldnt terribly hurt you as your final offer in negotiations.

[hanso]

I'm in the same boat could use a wr.
They are thin in my league.
Was thinking of offering a same kind of trade.
Using Ricky Williams, but not sure I could get back a good wr.
Btw the back that got 250 something yards and 2 tds for Stealers last game .
Was on waivers, and could be for your league as well.
I dropped my lowest wr for him.
Yes I would try for a deal Servo.

[Snoogans]

are u packaging them or trying to go one for one?

i cut the titans D. Have fun with them

[TripleSkeet]

I'm in the same boat could use a wr.
They are thin in my league.
Was thinking of offering a same kind of trade.
Using Ricky Williams, but not sure I could get back a good wr.
Btw the back that got 250 something yards and 2 tds for Stealers last game .
Was on waivers, and could be for your league as well.
I dropped my lowest wr for him.
Yes I would try for a deal Servo.

I picked up Mendenhall and started him in 2 of my 3 leagues. 4-0 in both. Now with byes and waivers though Im fucking hurting.

In one league I need to find a RB free agent thatll do anything. Problem is the highest rated one is Heath Evans.....if thats not bad enough hes on a bye this week too.

Any suggestions people???

[RhinoinMN]

I picked up Mendenhall and started him in 2 of my 3 leagues. 4-0 in both. Now with byes and waivers though Im fucking hurting.

In one league I need to find a RB free agent thatll do anything. Problem is the highest rated one is Heath Evans.....if thats not bad enough hes on a bye this week too.

Any suggestions people???

Mewelde Moore.

[hanso]

i cut the titans D. Have fun with them

I also picked up N.O. def.
SF is ranked higher now.
But NO can score more.
The way I see it by scoring more the other team will have to try to play catch up. And Ints. will roll in & maybe Tds as well.

[hanso]

I picked up Mendenhall and started him in 2 of my 3 leagues. 4-0 in both. Now with byes and waivers though Im fucking hurting.

In one league I need to find a RB free agent thatll do anything. Problem is the highest rated one is Heath Evans.....if thats not bad enough hes on a bye this week too.

Any suggestions people???
If he is your highest rated.
There is not much worth getting unless you can trade.
A few good all-around backs are Donald Brown and Tim Hightower however he only has 1 td and tends to fumble at times.

[Servo]

Offered Rice for Fitz straight up... we'll see if the dude bites.

[Snoogans]

Offered Rice for Fitz straight up... we'll see if the dude bites.

Hopefully you mean Jerry Rice and not Ray

[Fez4PrezN2008]

McNabb or Eli, who would you start?

[tupper65]

Giant game will probably be over early and Eli won't play the full game.

I'd go for McNabb

[Fez4PrezN2008]

Giant game will probably be over early and Eli won't play the full game.

I'd go for McNabb
That's way I was leaning but always risk that they won't play McNabb a whole lot either.

[TripleSkeet]

If he is your highest rated.
There is not much worth getting unless you can trade.
A few good all-around backs are Donald Brown and Tim Hightower however he only has 1 td and tends to fumble at times.

Donald Brown is gone.
Hightower is gone (and a beast in points per reception leauges this year)
Mewelde Moore is gone too.

2 of my backs are on byes, and Fred Taylor is hurt. So I grabbed Sammy Morris. Against Devers D Im not expecting much, but alot of my players are going up against horrendous teams so they should be able to carry me.

[hanso]

Donald Brown is gone.
Hightower is gone (and a beast in points per reception leauges this year)
Mewelde Moore is gone too.

2 of my backs are on byes, and Fred Taylor is hurt. So I grabbed Sammy Morris. Against Devers D Im not expecting much, but alot of my players are going up against horrendous teams so they should be able to carry me.
Yeah I said trade. (no time for that right).
I see Morris is just above Evens.
Good as you could do I guess.

This kinda thing with byes will open some nice finds.
Someone dropped.

L.T. & todd heap
I put in for both. I have gonzo for t.e. he tends to get hurt.

[TripleSkeet]

Yeah I said trade. (no time for that right).
I see Morris is just above Evens.
Good as you could do I guess.

This kinda thing with byes will open some nice finds.
Someone dropped.

L.T. & todd heap
I put in for both. I have gonzo for t.e. he tends to get hurt.

How the fuck do you drop LT? I mean, I know hes not the player he was 2 years ago, but he hasnt dropped THAT far.

[hanso]

Keep checking your league to see stuff like that get first dibs.
I put in for Heap first.
I already have good rb's.
The notes say he will start back on track soon (Lt).
Not a great move on his part.