Glenn Beck goes full retard

[styckx]

N.O. levees were allowed to fail to cover up ACORN corruption.

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200909110014


Also don't forget

http://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com/

[foodcourtdruide]

This sounds like Jezo got a radio show. Wow.

[epo]

I just listened to that.

Wow. Just wow.

[foodcourtdruide]

So, ACORN wanted a hurricane to destroy N.O. so they could hide their corruption? WHAT?! That makes so little sense, seriously, I blame you conservatives. Can your leadership PLEASE distance themselves from this guy?

[foodcourtdruide]

I just listened to that.

Wow. Just wow.

Seriously epo. It is SO out of bounds and insane.

[epo]

The Army Corps of Engineers is involved with a conspiracy with ACORN to destroy records of Van Jones and corrupt community organizers?

Jesus Christ....Glenn Beck is seriously a broadcaster for those who think that Art Bell wasn't daring enough...

[Snoogans]

The Army Corps of Engineers is involved with a conspiracy with ACORN to destroy records of Van Jones and corrupt community organizers?

Jesus Christ....Glenn Beck is seriously a broadcaster for those who think that Art Bell wasn't daring enough...

Art Bell ruled. The new guy kinda sucks but its still insane and funny

[foodcourtdruide]

The Army Corps of Engineers is involved with a conspiracy with ACORN to destroy records of Van Jones and corrupt community organizers?

Jesus Christ....Glenn Beck is seriously a broadcaster for those who think that Art Bell wasn't daring enough...

Yeah, why wouldn't the Army Corps of Engineers be involed in a conspiracy to protect Van Jones? That makes total sense.

[foodcourtdruide]

Art Bell ruled. The new guy kinda sucks but its still insane and funny

I think it'd be funny if he didn't have so much power.

[styckx]

I believe in Freedom of speech, and yes, even Glenn Beck has the right to spew this insanity. What I don't agree with though is a huge network news channel like Foxnews promoting and flaunting this guy as a legitimate source of news. By doing so they are also associating themselves with all the insanity he spews on his radio show.

They seriously need to cut ties with this guy and just let him be a extreme fear mongering conspiracy theory radio show host.

[angrymissy]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZeVELKTR37s/SnyXBT-pe9I/AAAAAAAAAgU/ZVZSGHWRAnA/s320/beck-tinfoil-hat.jpg

[CurseoftheBambi]

well done missy well done...now im gonna borrow that and put it on my facebook.

[KnoxHarrington]

You used to have to know how to work a short wave radio to get this kind of crazy.

[Drunky McBetidont]

Art Bell ruled. The new guy kinda sucks but its still insane and funny

the new guy sucks kinda. art was the best. coast to coast is perfect for long dark stretchs of mountain/forest areas on a road trip. i feel like i am gonna get sucked up into a spaceship in the boonies at night.

[WampusCrandle]

this guy sounds like a winner to me.

[HBox]

"I just go to New Orleans for the hookers."

So do I Glenn. So do I.

[booster11373]

"I just go to New Orleans for the hookers."

So do I Glenn. So do I.

So either you or Glenn are responsible for the recent string of prostitute murders in NO

[DarkHippie]

So either you or Glenn are responsible for the recent string of prostitute murders in NO

well, i heard that GLEN BECK RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL IN 1990. Though I am not sure if I believe that GLEN BECK RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL IN 1990. And even though it would be inappropriate to suggest that GLEN BECK RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL IN 1990, GLEN BECK has yet to confirm or deny that he RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL IN 1990. Until GLEN BECK addresses the rumors that he RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL IN 1990, these rumors will continue.

[benjamin]

well, i heard that GLEN BECK RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL IN 1990. Though I am not sure if I believe that GLEN BECK RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL IN 1990. And even though it would be inappropriate to suggest that GLEN BECK RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL IN 1990, GLEN BECK has yet to confirm or deny that he RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL IN 1990. Until GLEN BECK addresses the rumors that he RAPED AND MURDERED A GIRL IN 1990, these rumors will continue.

gilbert gotfried is hilarious

[KC2OSO]

You used to have to know how to work a short wave radio to get this kind of crazy.
Oh WWCR (http://www.wwcr.com/) is still out there...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How is his show still surviving? Dozens of advertisers pulled their ads.

[DarkHippie]

gilbert gotfried is hilarious

i died when he did this bit. it takes on a new angle with beck, since he often yells and screams damaging and unsubstantiated rumors.

[Recyclerz]

I know you're only supposed to say this about the Ron & Fez Show but...

"IT'S A BIT."

Glenn Beck is only doing the circus geek bit to get to the head of the pack of the Right-Wing Ranters chorus so as to make some serious coin. Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, Malkin, et al. are all doing pretty well for themselves so Beck is irritating the Liberals to create some buzz for himself. And it seems to be working pretty well.

I would have thought (hoped) that the market for Right-Wing Crazy would be saturated by now but the demand seems to go pretty damn deep.


I say let the geeks dance around naked covering themselves in shit all they want. It's my belief/hope that as long as Limbaugh/Palin, etc. are seen as the braintrust of the GOP then the lightly affiliated independents will continue to stay away, tanking the Party until the adults over there man up and take the controls back so we can have honest debates over issues again. And if the screaming nutsos ever do gain the majority of the country as a whole then we libs can just move up to Canada for real. It should be nicer what with the global warming and all.

[Devo37]

this is ridiculous.

the levees were blown up by the Bush administration in order to destroy the black part of the city and keep the white part dry. Louis Farrakhan told me so.

[The Jays]

Bullshit. The levees were destroyed because New Orleans was the base of operation for the demolition team that helped to take down the World Trade Center, and Bush knew that the 2005 hurricane season would most likely create a storm that would strike New Orleans and bust the levee and destroy the city. Then he told Beck to start spreading the rumor that ACORN busted the levees because they wanted to wipe away corruption.

[keithy_19]

When I listened to the clip it sounded like he was being sarcastic. I also didn't hear anything before the clip, so I can't be sure of what the context was.

If he was actually infering that they let the leves fail so it would destroy evidence of corruption then yes he is out of his mind.

[brettmojo]

ACORN has a weather machine?

Dear god...

[yojimbo7248]

I wish all the best to Glenn Beck. I hope his influence in the GOP grows and grows and he, Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and Tom Tancredo become their defacto leadership. Then reasonable fiscal conservatives, social libertarians, and Brent Snowcroft-style foreign policy Republicans will continue to leave the party to the birthers, town-hall screamers, and Fox News.

[Matty Fridays]

this is ridiculous.

the levees were blown up by the Bush administration in order to destroy the black part of the city and keep the white part dry. Louis Farrakhan told me so.



Kinda like a natural disaster McDLT?

[KnoxHarrington]

Bullshit. The levees were destroyed because New Orleans was the base of operation for the demolition team that helped to take down the World Trade Center, and Bush knew that the 2005 hurricane season would most likely create a storm that would strike New Orleans and bust the levee and destroy the city. Then he told Beck to start spreading the rumor that ACORN busted the levees because they wanted to wipe away corruption.

Jesus, what a brainwashed sap for the establishment you are, man. The levees were blown up to destroy the sets used to fake the Apollo landing.

Open your eyes, maaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

[LordJezo]

The government is finally wising up to ACORN, or at least realizing that the public knows that ACORN is being used to push the hard left agenda.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9ALCUJO0&show_article=1

Good riddance to them.

[KnoxHarrington]

The government is finally wising up to ACORN, or at least realizing that the public knows that ACORN is being used to push the hard left agenda.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9ALCUJO0&show_article=1

Good riddance to them.

I'm sure you'll provide us now with all the links where you were criticizing ACORN before the McCain campaign and right-wing hate radio started demonizing them.

[instrument]

I wouldn't eat acorns.

[TheMojoPin]

Man, this guy is good at his job.

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[angrymissy]

how do people fall for this garbage? He's worse at fake crying than Jeff

[topless_mike]

how do people fall for this garbage? He's worse at fake crying than Jeff

but the vomiting is real, right?

[underdog]

how do people fall for this garbage? He's worse at fake crying than Jeff

Someone actually called in when Ron was talking about him the other day to defend him because Beck "brings up the issues that no one else will."

No one else brings them up because they don't exist and are completely crazy.

Also :

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[Dan 'Hampton]

The man once was pulled over in his Delorean because he was speeding with a gullwing door open. That makes him tops in my book. Lets see that smug butch side-of-the-mouth talker Maddow top that!

[conman823]

THATS RIGHT GLENN BRING BACK "THE GOOD OL'DAYS!!"

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BLlJwLdIRpk/SFK22rL6_nI/AAAAAAAAAno/kqlxOVWco44/s400/WhitesOnly.jpg

What a fucking nut job......I wish I had the talent to make a crying Glenn Beck sig pic.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I remember reading somewhere that Beck has become the Jeremiah Wright of the conservative movement

[TheMojoPin]

I remember reading somewhere that Beck has become the Jeremiah Wright of the conservative movement

If only Glenn Beck were even slightly as irrelevant as Wright is.

[boosterp]

Uhg, I could not make it past 2:14. I understand each side of the political spectrum has voices but he is part of the reason conservatism is failing.

[TheMojoPin]

http://cherryhill.injersey.com/files/2009/10/Glenn-Beck.jpg

The cover of one of his newest books really sums up the whole facade of his gimmick: on the one hand he wants people to think he's this heartfelt patriot who sobs in righteous frustration at the thought of "his country" being taken over by insidious, homegrown, modern-day versions of the Nazis and/or Soviets (guh?) and people NEED to hear what he's saying before it's too late. On the other hand you have the "RATZIS/COMMIES IS HIGH-LARIOUS!!!" flippancy symbolized on that book cover that seemingly implies he's just a harmless smartass that doesn't want anyone to take him seriously. He has total impunity to simultaneously present these two different personas totally at odds with each other because nobody who is a fan of his thinks to question anything he says for a second.

And the whole "big government" generalization has lost all meaning coming from his mouth others of his ilk. The way they've turned it into this hysterical slogan of the apocalypse gives me zero reason to think this is about any legitimate push for "states' rights" because I can't see many of these people tolerating the same policies they're decrying now coming out of the state legislatures. It's so clearly about the specific policies and who is pushing them as opposed to genuine concern over a federal government that is too powerful.

[Furtherman]

We all reek of pot and beer!

[beachbum]

The gimmick gets more and more over the top as he progresses as well.When he was just on the radio(pre my having xm) he seemed to be sane and rational.When he got the gig with CNN he became more wacky crying guy.Now that he's on FOX he is just over the top bat shit crazy conspiracy guy.It's all too disingenuous.Carneys and rubes.

[KnoxHarrington]

The gimmick gets more and more over the top as he progresses as well.When he was just on the radio(pre my having xm) he seemed to be sane and rational.When he got the gig with CNN he became more wacky crying guy.Now that he's on FOX he is just over the top bat shit crazy conspiracy guy.It's all too disingenuous.Carneys and rubes.

You've gotta wonder at what point it goes too far even for his audience, though.

I mean, do they want to watch him sob like some homo or something? I can't imagine his audience looks too kindly on men crying.

[GregoryJoseph]

BECK / COULTER in 2012!

[boosterp]

Mojo and Beck, see a resemblance?

[Crispy123]

He'll never get the Oscar now.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2008/08/14/alg_robertdowneyjr.jpg

[GregoryJoseph]

Mojo and Beck, see a resemblance?

Two sides of the exact same coin, my friend.

[TheMojoPin]

Two sides of the exact same coin, my friend.

Apologize now or you're gone.

[epo]

BECK / COULTER in 2012!

Finally, you understand your core message: Bumper Sticker Politics.

[hanso]

BECK / COULTER in 2012!

Oh goody can the guy that likes purple & magic underwear. With his own Fox news show have a post also?

[hanso]

THATS RIGHT GLENN BRING BACK "THE GOOD OL'DAYS!!"

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BLlJwLdIRpk/SFK22rL6_nI/AAAAAAAAAno/kqlxOVWco44/s400/WhitesOnly.jpg

What a fucking nut job......I wish I had the talent to make a crying Glenn Beck sig pic.

I'm getting ready to change mine.
You can have it if you want.

[Judge Smails]

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[GregoryJoseph]

Looks like Beck mobilized the troops yesterday.

BIG day for the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

[HBox]

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This is the greatest achievement of human kind.

[badmonkey]

This is the greatest achievement of human kind.

yeah, nothing beats wishing death on people you disagree with. that reminds me... how you feeling today?

[high fly]

I like when the multi-millionaire right-wingers assure us they are just one of us and are regular people.
Limpbaugh was taking that line today...

[keithy_19]

I like when the multi-millionaire right-wingers assure us they are just one of us and are regular people.
Limpbaugh was taking that line today...

I like when the multi-millionaire left-wingers assure us they are just one of and are regular people.

[HBox]

yeah, nothing beats wishing death on people you disagree with. that reminds me... how you feeling today?

It's a fucking joke. You'll find life much more enjoyable if you can somehow remove the Empire State Building from between your ass cheeks.

P.S. That last line was also a joke. I do not believe that the Empire State Building is in fact up your ass.

[keithy_19]

It's a fucking joke. You'll find life much more enjoyable if you can somehow remove the Empire State Building from between your ass cheeks.

P.S. That last line was also a joke. I do not believe that the Empire State Building is in fact up your ass.

That's the problem with you HBox. You don't believe in anything.

[mikeyboy]

It's a fucking joke. You'll find life much more enjoyable if you can somehow remove the Empire State Building from between your ass cheeks.

P.S. That last line was also a joke. I do not believe that the Empire State Building is in fact up your ass.

I totally would have noticed him up there if it was.

[foodcourtdruide]

I totally would have noticed him up there if it was.

Yeah, and it would have been on the news.

[high fly]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I like when the multi-millionaire right-wingers assure us they are just one of us and are regular people.
Limpbaugh was taking that line today...



I like when the multi-millionaire left-wingers assure us they are just one of and are regular people.


We're talking about Beck, Keithy. It's right there in the thread title.
When faced with a point for which they have not been issued an opinion by Limpbaugh or Manatee, conservatives can be counted upon to usually reply one of two ways:

1) They will play shoot-the-messenger

2) They will try to change the subject

[badmonkey]

It's a fucking joke. You'll find life much more enjoyable if you can somehow remove the Empire State Building from between your ass cheeks.

P.S. That last line was also a joke. I do not believe that the Empire State Building is in fact up your ass.

Mine was sarcasm too. Maybe your reference to the Empire State Building and my ass is really more about your own anal discomfort . thhbbbbt

[keithy_19]

We're talking about Beck, Keithy. It's right there in the thread title.
When faced with a point for which they have not been issued an opinion by Limpbaugh or Manatee, conservatives can be counted upon to usually reply one of two ways:

1) They will play shoot-the-messenger

2) They will try to change the subject

Fair enough.

And yes, conservatives do that. As do liberals.

And please stop refering to Hannity as Manatee. I really enjoy manatees and I don't want you to spoil my opinion of them

[HBox]

Mine was sarcasm too. Maybe your reference to the Empire State Building and my ass is really more about your own anal discomfort . thhbbbbt

....... oh...... well........ maybe I was sarcastic too and......... maybe......... then you..............

dammit.

[KnoxHarrington]

This is the greatest achievement of human kind.

"She was so beautiful, she didn't even have little pig eyes."

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[hanso]

He dosn't have to 'go' he already is.

[TheMojoPin]

Uncanny:

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[epo]

Glenn Beck calls Senator Mary Landrieu a prostitute...TWICE! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/25/olbermann-rips-glenn-beck_n_370436.html)

On his radio show Beck crudely called Senator Mary Landrieu a prostitute for her work obtaining money in the health care bill to help pay for coverage of poor citizens of Louisiana. He then doubled down later on his television show, saying "So we know you're hookin', but you're just not cheap."

Is it even a story anymore when Glenn Beck says stupid shit?

[GregoryJoseph]

Is it even a story anymore when Glenn Beck says stupid shit?

He does it almost as frequently as the Vice President of the United States.

[epo]

He does it almost as frequently as the Vice President of the United States.

I want you to say that to Diablo Sammich. You don't have the stones.

[badmonkey]

Glenn Beck calls Senator Mary Landrieu a prostitute...TWICE! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/25/olbermann-rips-glenn-beck_n_370436.html)



Is it even a story anymore when Glenn Beck says stupid shit?

Is it even a story anymore when Keith Olbermann pretends to be outraged over something Glenn Beck said?

[TheMojoPin]

Why the fuck did anyone think it was a good idea to make a Sports Center guy into a news anchor? Olbermann bloooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwws.

[badmonkey]

Why the fuck did anyone think it was a good idea to make a Sports Center guy into a news anchor? Olbermann bloooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwws.

He's not even a good sports guy. He's got zero energy.

[epo]

Is it even a story anymore when Keith Olbermann pretends to be outraged over something Glenn Beck said?

Absolutely not. But why is anyone on a "reputable news source" calling a U.S. Senator a prostitute?

[Bob Impact]

Absolutely not. But why is anyone on a "reputable news source" calling a U.S. Senator a prostitute?

I was going to make the Fox is reputable? joke but it seemed to easy so I'll just say I'm not surprised.

[epo]

I was going to make the Fox is reputable? joke but it seemed to easy so I'll just say I'm not surprised.

Exactly. So we can agree that Fox News is not a reputable news source?

[badmonkey]

Absolutely not. But why is anyone on a "reputable news source" calling a U.S. Senator a prostitute?

It's an opinion show, just like Olbermann's... well... not JUST like Olbermann's. His show should be called Recap with Keith Olbermann cuz all he does is recap Fox opinion shows. You should be able to see the parallels between prostitution and her selling her vote for $300mil. It's really not that much of a stretch. If you think that Glenn Beck is saying that she has sex for money, then you're a bigger idiot than Keith Olbermann. I wonder who will be the worst person tonite Bush, O'Reilly or Beck?

[keithy_19]

Absolutely not. But why is anyone on a "reputable news source" calling a U.S. Senator a prostitute?

She received a ton of money for her service in voting for the health bill.

And seriously epo, I think that we all agree that she is very hookerish.

[hanso]

He's not even a good sports guy. He's got zero energy.

Just wonder how you knew he was outraged.
It doesn't sound like you watch him.

I have been watching the late late replays.
The video podcasts are free also.

I will lose interest eventually like I've done before with the show.

[Serpico1103]

She received a ton of money for her service in voting for the health bill.

And seriously epo, I think that we all agree that she is very hookerish.

I think the republicans like to take the angle that any dissension is unpatriotic. So, when "commentary" sinks to such a level from a republican talking head it is that much more despicable.
I have no problem with attacking her actions. But, to call her a prostitute merely side tracks the discussion. Like now, instead of discussing the issues, we are discussing how the issues should be discussed.

[badmonkey]

Just wonder how you knew he was outraged.
It doesn't sound like you watch him.

I have been watching the late late replays.
The video podcasts are free also.

I will lose interest eventually like I've done before with the show.

The headline "Olbermann Rips Glenn Beck For Calling Dem Senator Mary Landrieu A 'Prostitute' (VIDEO)" at Huffington Post was what clued me in.

I watch football on Sundays and he has zero energy or personality when he talks sports. Maybe the only thing he's really passionate about is his hatred of Bush, O'Reilly, and Beck. Who knows? Who cares?

Congratulations on your decision to watch his replays and your interest in his show. His video podcasts are free because it's probably cheaper to let you and epo just have them for free than it is to hook it up to a billing system for you guys anyway.

[high fly]

Glenn Beck calls Senator Mary Landrieu a prostitute...TWICE! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/25/olbermann-rips-glenn-beck_n_370436.html)



Is it even a story anymore when Glenn Beck says stupid shit?


I think it is when the other members of Congress or other politicians let it slide.
Here is an interesting Washington Post editorial on a similar subject (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/17/AR2009111703409.html)

In this case it is Va. governor-elect Bob McDonnell and dealing with Pat Robertson who is a major supporter. McDonnell is urged to speak out about that lunatic Robertson and similarly, politicians whom Beck supports should call him the nincompoop he is.
If nothing else, seeing Glen burst into tears again might be giggle-inducing...



Oh, and epo, it is surefire confirmation you are on the money when the righties try to shift the focus and basically make a "Just-because-Little-Johnny-down-the-street-jumps-off-the-roof-it-means-I-should-jump-off-the-roof" argument.....

[hanso]

It's an opinion show, just like Olbermann's... well... not JUST like Olbermann's. His show should be called Recap with Keith Olbermann cuz all he does is recap Fox opinion shows. You should be able to see the parallels between prostitution and her selling her vote for $300mil. It's really not that much of a stretch. If you think that Glenn Beck is saying that she has sex for money, then you're a bigger idiot than Keith Olbermann. I wonder who will be the worst person tonite Bush, O'Reilly or Beck?

Can't FNC ever do a story at face value?
Only the brain washed sheep followers see through the spin.
I would rather watch the re-spun telling of the show tyvm.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Can Olbermann and Matthews ever get their lips unglued from Obamas ass? Holy shit those 2 fucks should just fight each other to see who loves the President more

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The headline "Olbermann Rips Glenn Beck For Calling Dem Senator Mary Landrieu A 'Prostitute' (VIDEO)" at Huffington Post was what clued me in.

I watch football on Sundays and he has zero energy or personality when he talks sports. Maybe the only thing he's really passionate about is his hatred of Bush, O'Reilly, and Beck. Who knows? Who cares?

Congratulations on your decision to watch his replays and your interest in his show. His video podcasts are free because it's probably cheaper to let you and epo just have them for free than it is to hook it up to a billing system for you guys anyway.

Hes just a bitter middle aged white guy . While Im not the biggest supporter of BillO, I think the reason why Olby is like that is because he gets hammered in the ratings. GE's biggest corporate whore gets about a million viewers while BillO has btwn 3.5mm and 4mm every night

[hanso]

Can Olbermann and Matthews ever get their lips unglued from Obamas ass? Holy shit those 2 fucks should just fight each other to see who loves the President more
As opposed to the last two terms this is welcomed (progress)
Hes just a bitter middle aged white guy . While Im not the biggest supporter of BillO, I think the reason why Olby is like that is because he gets hammered in the ratings. GE's biggest corporate whore gets about a million viewers while BillO has btwn 3.5mm and 4mm every night
It just show that there are lots of dolts in country.
The same that voted in someone who was dragging us to the brink of a second great depression

[WRESTLINGFAN]

As opposed to the last two terms this is welcomed (progress)

It just show that there are lots of dolts in country.
The same that voted in someone who was dragging us to the brink of a second great depression

Yes youre right, 52% who were mostly uninformed, naive, ignorant and believed that the knight in shining Armor, a starry eyed rockstar would save the country


Now you have an economic illiterate from Chicago digging us deeper into the abyss after Bush's stupidity. Massive unemployment, massive deficits and debt. An economy flatlining You call that progress?

[epo]

Shouldn't we be discussing the insanity of Glenn Beck, not US economic policy?

LEARN TO FOCUS!

[hanso]

Yes youre right, 52% who were mostly uninformed, naive, ignorant and believed that the knight in shining Armor, a starry eyed rockstar would save the country


Now you have an economic illiterate from Chicago digging us deeper into the abyss after Bush's stupidity. Massive unemployment, massive deficits and debt. An economy flatlining You call that progress?

It is growing, slowly but it is growing. Where do you get your info FNC?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It is growing, slowly but it is growing. Where do you get your info FNC?

That gdp rate had to be altered from 3.5% to 2.8%, and that inflated rate was due to government spending

Look at foreclosures, unemployment and a weak dollar

Glenn Beck does not speak for me. Hes just another talker with a huge salary. I look at the bigger picture. The stock market at over 10K does not mean the economy is doing better

I get my info from Peter Schiff , Nouriel Roubini, and Gerald Celente They might not have the flashy shows like the lemmings at CNBC do, However they are often on as guests skewering the likes of Robert Reich

[Syd]

A weak dollar is a fantastic thing for America unless you're more interested in scoring cheap cheap HDTVs instead of a solid basis for an economic future.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Absolutely not. But why is anyone on a "reputable news source" calling a U.S. Senator a prostitute?

Aside from the fact that Olbermann does an editorial show and *not* a news show (Yes like EVERYONE on Fox & MSNBC after 8), his entire night after night has devolved into catching people on the right saying crazy shit and inviting people from liberal PACs to brag about how wrong they are. Does that warrant 42 mins + commercials?

[hanso]

That gdp rate had to be altered from 3.5% to 2.8%, and that inflated rate was due to government spending

Look at foreclosures, unemployment and a weak dollar

Glenn Beck does not speak for me. Hes just another talker with a huge salary. I look at the bigger picture. The stock market at over 10K does not mean the economy is doing better

I get my info from Peter Schiff , Nouriel Roubini, and Gerald Celente They might not have the flashy shows like the lemmings at CNBC do, However they are often on as guests skewering the likes of Robert Reich

The quarter did rise however. You try to say it didn't. Foreclosures, unemployment and a weak dollar also are turning for the better which you again try to twist.

Bush never included the wars in his budget something Obama does now.

[hanso]

Aside from the fact that Olbermann does an editorial show and *not* a news show (Yes like EVERYONE on Fox & MSNBC after 8), his entire night after night has devolved into catching people on the right saying crazy shit and inviting people from liberal PACs to brag about how wrong they are. Does that warrant 42 mins + commercials?

I notice someone from politico, and Arianna Huffington on mostly.
As well as political figures, never noticed anyone from PACs.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I notice someone from politico, and Arianna Huffington on mostly.
As well as political figures, never noticed anyone from PACs.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/abinidab/straws.jpg

[hanso]

If I was grasping at straws. I would have noted.
The current chairman of the Board of Trustees of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Foundation, is president and CEO of Politico.

[Furtherman]

Hes just a bitter middle aged white guy . While Im not the biggest supporter of BillO, I think the reason why Olby is like that is because he gets hammered in the ratings. GE's biggest corporate whore gets about a million viewers while BillO has btwn 3.5mm and 4mm every night

Ratings don't mean shit as a gauge in popularity. Stand by what ever opinionated head you want to, but bringing up ratings is inconsequential. They aren't even close to a majority representation of what America is watching.

I know this because I work with Nielsen everyday.

[high fly]

Ratings don't mean shit as a gauge in popularity. Stand by what ever opinionated head you want to, but bringing up ratings is inconsequential. They aren't even close to a majority representation of what America is watching.

I know this because I work with Nielsen everyday.

They also mean nothing in terms of quality.
One of the best shows for seeing political issues discussed was William F. Buckley's Firing Line.
It was on public TV and had microscopic ratings...........

[hanso]

I used to watch that show. I liked how he carried himself.
That and books by Nixon where my intro to things political.

[A.J.]

I know this because I work with Nielsen everyday.

Surely you can't be serious.

http://www.viceland.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/leslie-nielsen.jpg

[Furtherman]

James Cameron trashes Glenn Beck (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3id51767e5e16b09797270e439dedbbcd6?imw=Y)

Asked what he thought about Beck during a junket appearance in support of the "Avatar" home video release, Cameron said: "Glenn Beck is a fucking asshole. I've met him. He called me the anti-Christ, and not about 'Avatar.' He hadn't even seen 'Avatar' yet. I don't know if he has seen it."

Cameron was apparently referring to Beck's reaction to his 2007 documentary, "The Lost Tomb of Jesus," which casts doubt on the resurrection of Jesus Christ and makes the case that the ancient "Tomb of the Ten Ossuaries" belonged to Jesus' family.

Awesome.





And A.J., don't call me Shirley.

[Bob Impact]

The idea of Glen Beck screaming "YOU'RE THE ANTICHRIST" at James Cameron is oddly hysterical to me.

[underdog]

The idea of Glen Beck screaming "YOU'RE THE ANTICHRIST" at James Cameron is oddly hysterical to me.

Agreed.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Love him or hate him, the viewers he's pulling in at 5pm is sick. This is as of 23/22


5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck – 3,446,000 viewers (988,000) (1,798,000)
Situation Room—665,000 viewers (129,000) (239,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews – 672,000 viewers (156,000) (292,000)
Fast Money — 274,000 viewers (a scratch w/39,000) (85,000)
Prime News —206,000 viewers (88,000) (98,000

[Furtherman]

Love him or hate him, the viewers he's pulling in at 5pm is sick. This is as of 23/22


5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck – 3,446,000 viewers (988,000) (1,798,000)
Situation Room—665,000 viewers (129,000) (239,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews – 672,000 viewers (156,000) (292,000)
Fast Money — 274,000 viewers (a scratch w/39,000) (85,000)
Prime News —206,000 viewers (88,000) (98,000


The ratings point means nothing. There are a lot of people watching TV between 5 & 6... but there are much more people watching other shows. In fact, looking at the broadcast networks from just last week (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX), there are 17.6 million average viewers watching. That's a lot more than people watching Beck, and they're most likely watching their local news! That's 17.6 million smarter people, which leads me to believe most people will come to common sense before they fall to any fear tactics.

[SinA]

Love him or hate him, the viewers he's pulling in at 5pm is sick. This is as of 23/22


5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck – 3,446,000 viewers (988,000) (1,798,000)
Situation Room—665,000 viewers (129,000) (239,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews – 672,000 viewers (156,000) (292,000)
Fast Money — 274,000 viewers (a scratch w/39,000) (85,000)
Prime News —206,000 viewers (88,000) (98,000

I feel very comfortable knowing that everyday there are 326,554,000 Americans not watching Glenn Beck.

[SonOfSmeagol]

William Shatner:... "There's a whole world out there! When I was your age, I didn't watch television! I LIVED! So... move out of your parent's basements! And get your own apartments and GROW THE HELL UP! I mean, it's just a TV show dammit, IT'S JUST A TV SHOW!"

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The ratings point means nothing. There are a lot of people watching TV between 5 & 6... but there are much more people watching other shows. In fact, looking at the broadcast networks from just last week (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX), there are 17.6 million average viewers watching. That's a lot more than people watching Beck, and they're most likely watching their local news! That's 17.6 million smarter people, which leads me to believe most people will come to common sense before they fall to any fear tactics.

Im agree with you on those points, however when compared to the other cable/satellite news channels thats a huge margin. The target demos are also impressive . Ailes and Murdoch must be celebrating

[keithy_19]

James Cameron trashes Glenn Beck (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3id51767e5e16b09797270e439dedbbcd6?imw=Y)


I don't like James Cameron much at all though I really, really enjoy Simcha Jacobovivi. I thought the documentary was interesting, though it was misleading in the way it was presented.

I liked Beck, and still sometimes enjoy his show, but it's just real repetitive.

I also don't like how he brings up his religion all the time.

[high fly]

Beck is a side-show freak, that's all.........

[hanso]

The idea of Glen Beck screaming "YOU'RE THE ANTICHRIST" at James Cameron is oddly hysterical to me.

Add that he is a mormon into the mix. It makes it even more odd.

[KnoxHarrington]

Add that he is a mormon into the mix. It makes it even more odd.

Beck strikes me as just a really, really weird guy.

That's why I don't think it's merely a carny act for him. Or maybe it started out as a carny act that he believes himself now. He's his own rube, in that sense.

I mean, you watch this show, and the crazy-eyed intensity of it all is amusing and frightening all at the same time. The way he scrawls just totally crazy, nonsensical stuff on his blackboard...I'm not sure how his show is going to end, whether it will end with him blowing his brains out on live TV, but it's not going to end well.

I just hope that before that, some equally batshit crazy viewer doesn't think Beck is urging him to do something really, really awful to fight "progressivism."

[keithy_19]

I just hope that before that, some equally batshit crazy viewer doesn't think Beck is urging him to do something really, really awful to fight "progressivism."

If they do, it can't be blamed on Beck who almsot on every show says that you should never act with violence.

[Furtherman]

I just hope that before that, some equally batshit crazy viewer doesn't think Beck is urging him to do something really, really awful to fight "progressivism."

Insane. When did "progress" become bad?

[angrymissy]

If they do, it can't be blamed on Beck who almsot on every show says that you should never act with violence.

So you can incite people towards violence for 29 minutes, knowing full well you're frothing up angry people, but if you say quickly at the end "now never act with violence", you get a pass?

[KnoxHarrington]

Insane. When did "progress" become bad?

Yeah, the right has gone from fighting "communism" to fighting "socialism" to fighting "liberalism", and now it's fighting "progressivism".

I remember when even conservatives would say they're "progressive", they just didn't want progress to be directed by the government.

But I've never teased any sort of coherent political idelogy out of Beck. It's just crazy ass rants done by misspelling words on a chalkboard and drawing arrows. He says he's a "libertarian", but he sounds a hell of a lot like a theocrat to me. In any case, it's the equivalent of the crazy dude on the bus yelling about Socialism.

[Furtherman]

When I was in school, I studied, learned and then progressed to the next grade.


All that time I was killing America. How callous of me.

[StanUpshaw]

My uncle's testicular cancer progressed to his lymph nodes.

[foodcourtdruide]

Yeah, the right has gone from fighting "communism" to fighting "socialism" to fighting "liberalism", and now it's fighting "progressivism".

I remember when even conservatives would say they're "progressive", they just didn't want progress to be directed by the government.

But I've never teased any sort of coherent political idelogy out of Beck. It's just crazy ass rants done by misspelling words on a chalkboard and drawing arrows. He says he's a "libertarian", but he sounds a hell of a lot like a theocrat to me. In any case, it's the equivalent of the crazy dude on the bus yelling about Socialism.

I agree with you, but sadly he has a gigantic political influence in this country.

[Zorro]

So you can incite people towards violence for 29 minutes, knowing full well you're frothing up angry people, but if you say quickly at the end "now never act with violence", you get a pass?

The problem with living in a free society is that you can say anything you want.

[weekapaugjz]

The problem with living in a free society is that you can say anything you want.

http://aletorro.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/donimus-726652.jpg

[booster11373]

The problem with living in a free society is that you can say anything you want.

You should know that is not true, We live in a civil society and there are limits

[angrymissy]

The problem with living in a free society is that you can say anything you want.

I agree you can say whatever you want, but you should be held responsible for what you say. Adding a "and I'm not REALLY advocating violence" at the end doesn't excuse what you said for an hour straight prior"

[foodcourtdruide]

I agree you can say whatever you want, but you should be held responsible for what you say. Adding a "and I'm not REALLY advocating violence" at the end doesn't excuse what you said for an hour straight prior"

There seems to be this belief that people should have the right to say whatever they want, but other people should not have the right to hold those responsible for overstepping what they deem as socially acceptable. This was the biggest problem I had with PAC.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I know this because I work with Nielsen everyday.

http://www.hotelchatter.com/files/11725/Rick_Nielsen.jpg ?

[Bob Impact]

I remember when even conservatives would say they're "progressive", they just didn't want progress to be directed by the government.
.

Some of us still do. :sad:

[keithy_19]

So you can incite people towards violence for 29 minutes, knowing full well you're frothing up angry people, but if you say quickly at the end "now never act with violence", you get a pass?

If you are a crazy person you will be lead to violence by anything. I, in all the times I have watched Beck, have never had the urge to act out in a violent way.

I know it's a stretch, but should the Beatles shouldn't be blamed for Charles Manson. JD Salinger shouldn't be blamed for Lenon's death.

People take responsibility for what they do. I don't think Marilyn Manson caused Columbine.

I don't think Beck disagreeing vehemntly with the administration and what he feels they are doing with the country should ever be blamed for the violence of others. Then again, I am really for personal responsibility and think that people are responsible for what they do. Only they are.

[SonOfSmeagol]

If you are a crazy person you will be lead to violence by anything. I, in all the times I have watched Beck, have never had the urge to act out in a violent way.

I know it's a stretch, but should the Beatles shouldn't be blamed for Charles Manson. JD Salinger shouldn't be blamed for Lenon's death.

People take responsibility for what they do. I don't think Marilyn Manson caused Columbine.

I don't think Beck disagreeing vehemntly with the administration and what he feels they are doing with the country should ever be blamed for the violence of others. Then again, I am really for personal responsibility and think that people are responsible for what they do. Only they are.

I highly doubt that you will get any kind of coherent response from people who mostly get their material from third parties who cherry pick the juicy tidbits for them and assist them in forming their opinions on something they do not watch. As opposed to you - who actually watches it, says so, and probably has more credibility in commenting on it than all of them combined.

[high fly]

If you are a crazy person you will be lead to violence by anything. I, in all the times I have watched Beck, have never had the urge to act out in a violent way.

While it may not effect you that way, the same might not be said of others.

Ever heard that talk about abortion being murder?
Take a look at the following:

"Abortion on demand is a return to the ancient practice of infanticide ... What they did was participate in the murder and dismemberment of upward of 50 children a week. I believe that deadly force is indeed justified in an attempt to stop it."
- Eric Rudolf, at his sentencing where he got 4 consecutive life sentences plus 120 years for murder

[SonOfSmeagol]

He says, apropos of nothing whatever.

[keithy_19]

While it may not effect you that way, the same might not be said of others.

Ever heard that talk about abortion being murder?
Take a look at the following:

"Abortion on demand is a return to the ancient practice of infanticide ... What they did was participate in the murder and dismemberment of upward of 50 children a week. I believe that deadly force is indeed justified in an attempt to stop it."
- Eric Rudolf, at his sentencing where he got 4 consecutive life sentences plus 120 years for murder

Damn. You're right. Someone who is clearly unstable was effected by things that others said. I agree that we must shut up anyone who has said anything that could possibly make a crazy person want to do something crazy.

[Ogre]

Ever heard that talk about abortion being murder?


It is.

[Serpico1103]

It is.

Is killing during a war murder?
Is capital punishment murder?

[hanso]

Are wacko's who watch FNC 24/7 that kill abortion doctors. Committing premeditated murder?

[Ogre]

Is killing during a war murder?
Is capital punishment murder?

1. Sometimes yes murders do occur during war. If the person is a non-com that is caught in the crossfire, then you could argue murder in some cases. In cases of aiding and abetting and providing the enemy safe harbor then no.

2. Capital punishment as it relates to someone who committed homicide first? no, that's why they call it punishment.

[Furtherman]

Ever heard that talk about abortion being murder?


It is.

Is it? A practice that was performed, necessarily, for millenia until the church realized that outlawing abortion means more church members. It's the same reason why they outlawed priests to be married, because at one time they could, but then the church couldn't get their property when they died - it went to the wife. No wives, more property. It's all about growing their business, and now people believe that there is some kind of moral wrongdoing in abortion.

1. Sometimes yes murders do occur during war. If the person is a non-com that is caught in the crossfire, then you could argue murder in some cases. In cases of aiding and abetting and providing the enemy safe harbor then no.

2. Capital punishment as it relates to someone who committed homicide first? no, that's why they call it punishment.

"Sometimes", "In some cases", "as it relates"... it's good that you have your definition of what murder is - but you have to realize that it is not the common one, nor the right one, compared to the billion other definitions out there.

[Furtherman]

Apple boycotts Fox News because of Glenn Beck (http://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/29/apple-boycotts-fox-news-because-of-glenn-beck/)

A two-week old report by the Washington Post is only now gaining traction in the tech section. It appears that Apple has boycotted Fox News based on Glenn Beck and his ludicrous statements, including calling President Obama a racist and branding progressivism a "cancer."

"More than 200 companies have joined a boycott of Beck's program, making it difficult for Fox to sell ads," the Washington Post reports. "The time has instead been sold to smaller firms offering such products as Kaopectate, Carbonite, 1-800-PetMeds and Goldline International. A handful of advertisers, such as Apple, have abandoned Fox altogether. Network executives say they believe they could charge higher rates if the host were more widely acceptable to advertisers."

Good for you Apple.

[Serpico1103]

It is.

It isn't. Unless you shove a new born back in and then wire hanger it. You can say it is morally wrong. But, it does not fit the accepted definition of murder, among my liberal racist friends.

[Serpico1103]

Insane. When did "progress" become bad?
Middle ages probably. Monarchy or church want a stable society.

[JimBeam]

It's all about growing their business, and now people believe that there is some kind of moral wrongdoing in abortion.

Religion or otherwise you don't see a moral issue in snuffing out a living thing for the sake of convenience ?

What exactly is the Catholic Church doing with all this land it's been gathering ?

I don't see them building settlments and forcing other people out like some others.

I don't see them selling it to oil companies in order for them to build pipelines ( just watched Shooter again last night ).

[StanUpshaw]

Insane. When did "progress" become bad?

Middle ages probably. Monarchy or church want a stable society.

I'm sorry, but this is an idiotic line of thought.

Saying that someone who opposes Progressives is someone who opposes progress (as if there's some objective measure of "progress"), is the same as saying someone who opposes the Moral Majority opposes morals; or if you oppose Truthers, you oppose truth. These are nothing but brand names that represent specific sets of ideology.

[Serpico1103]

I'm sorry, but this is an idiotic line of thought.

Saying that someone who opposes Progressives is someone who opposes progress (as if there's some objective measure of "progress"), is the same as saying someone who opposes the Moral Majority opposes morals; or if you oppose Truthers, you oppose truth. These are nothing but brand names that represent specific sets of ideology.
No problem, idiot. But, you didn't dispute my statement. I didn't equate conservatives to the monarcy or church. You might have a problem with furtherman's implied connection. Although radical republicans(fundamentalists and neo-cons) might be close.
Why don't we get good labels for the right?

[Zorro]

I'm def off topic for Glenn Beck here, but the following post got me thinking...

Is it? A practice that was performed, necessarily, for millenia until the church realized that outlawing abortion means more church members. It's the same reason why they outlawed priests to be married, because at one time they could, but then the church couldn't get their property when they died - it went to the wife. No wives, more property. It's all about growing their business, and now people believe that there is some kind of moral wrongdoing in abortion.

Not exactly, but close. There was never a question of "Church Property" passing to a wife. The question was what "was" church property and what "was" personal property that would pass to the heirs. Outlaw heirs clear the confusion.

I also find it a little "simplistic" to suggest that a church's anti-abortion stance is to get more members. Don't get me wrong it's a great throw away line, but is very dismissive of people inside and outside of the church that believe that a woman carries life within her.

What is your meaning of "necessarily". Is hiding your shame at accidently getting pregnant necessary, is a whacky family that doesn't want to be embarrased by their daughter necessary or a remedy to some supposed sin against society a necessity?

The result of pregnancies are little Furtherman, AngryMissys even tiny Wrestlingfans while I believe abortion should be legal AND available I also think that simple one sided black and white declarations about it are silly.

[Serpico1103]

Religion or otherwise you don't see a moral issue in snuffing out a living thing for the sake of convenience ?

What exactly is the Catholic Church doing with all this land it's been gathering ?

I don't see them building settlments and forcing other people out like some others.

I don't see them selling it to oil companies in order for them to build pipelines ( just watched Shooter again last night ).
Killing a living thing for convenience? What is your diet and wardrobe made of? Synthetic materials? You could eat and clothe yourself without cleaning living things. I have a much larger moral issue with war than abortion. Not that dying for something you believe in is bad, but usually the killer and killee in a war have little idea what they are fighting for.

[JimBeam]

There's a greater good in killing animals for food but other than the inconvenience/shame a baby would bring to a person what good is there in killing it ?

[booster11373]

There's a greater good in killing animals for food but other than the inconvenience/shame a baby would bring to a person what good is there in killing it ?

No one is for killing babies

[StanUpshaw]

There's a greater good in killing animals for food but other than the inconvenience/shame a baby would bring to a person what good is there in killing it ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect

"...Donohue and Levitt point to the fact that males aged 18 to 24 are most likely to commit crimes. Data indicates that crime in the United States started to decline in 1992. Donohue and Levitt suggest that the absence of unwanted aborted children, following legalization in 1973, led to a reduction in crime 18 years later, starting in 1992 and dropping sharply in 1995. These would have been the peak crime-committing years of the unborn children..."

[Furtherman]

There's a greater good in killing animals for food but other than the inconvenience/shame a baby would bring to a person what good is there in killing it ?

As I mentioned before, abortion was practiced regularly in civilizations that could not afford to feed more people. Contraceptives weren't exactly foolproof and people will have sex. When there wasn't enough food, there had to be a baby-ban, or else more people will starve. That was the way communities thrived. From Egypt to the Polynesian Island, from China to the Aztecs and Mayans. There was only so much to go around and that's when abortion was a necessary practice.

As for today, it's the woman's choice. It's her body, and there are still instances and places in the world where it is a necessity.

But now we're getting into abortion argument, which there is no answer.

Was is important is that Glenn Beck has gone full retard.

[Serpico1103]

There's a greater good in killing animals for food but other than the inconvenience/shame a baby would bring to a person what good is there in killing it ?
"Greater good?" Not the animal's. Is going to war serving a greater good? Do you live modestly so you can send your excess to save babies dying of malnourishment? I guess that would be too inconvenient. "Fetuses are people!! African babies dying for lack of a dollar a day? That's their problem."

[TeeBone]

I have always found it somewhat disconcerting that someone can receive a conviction for double-murder if they kill a pregnant woman, although an abortion is completely legal. Odd, isn't it?
I welcome the arguments of free-will versus non-choice.

Abortion is legal, period. Its not a, 'woman's right to choose, mahhhn,' but rather a law. Personally I do not think a rational/normal woman who has the ability to raise a child that was a result of consensual sex between two adults not related to one another; would choose to KILL an unborn baby. And don't kid yourselves, its a killing.

Whereas wrong and unconscionable, its legal and strangely an acceptable practice. So much so that the corrupt Democrats in Washington wanted to use my tax dollars to fund the killings. That is the world we live in. As an adult, you should have the right to make adult decisions like abortion, or smoking pot or whatever the case may be. But, there is always a limit. Pot is illegal but abortion is legal. I will never understand why we do the things we do, but that is the way the world is. I am decidedly anti-abortion but it is also the reason why I support abortion rights. They are law and that is what we have. Often times abortion is a tough decision, but sometimes I would be willing to bet its a method of correcting a problem. Our President said it himself during the campaign. "...if my teenaged daughter gets pregnant, I don't want to punish her with a baby." Well said, Mr. President. As if bringing life into the world is a punishment. But, its legal and an American should have the right to make that choice, no matter how awful an individual like me thinks it is.

I also find it odd that most of the people I know who are so vehemently anti-abortion are also passionately pro-death penalty. Again, I welcome the arguments of free-will versus non-choice.

If preservation of life is truly the goal of it all, is legally killing someone going to bring back your murdered relative? Sadly not. Couple that with the economic impacts on the death penalty and you have what I perceive as a lose-lose scenario no matter how you play it. The death penalty does little more than clog up our legal system, drag cases on for years through the appeals process and costs the American tax payer millions.

The point is Personal Responsibility. A notion that is drying up more and more every day. We continue to lose our personal responsibility and look to others to bail us out. A nation of politically correct chumps is where we are and there is no telling where that will lead us next.

Sometimes we do not agree with the law, but we have to agree to respect the law. I am not likening abortion to Free Speech but I see the same 'passion ' when free speech issues get talked about. If you disagree with someone you hear, should that mean you will do everything in your power to silence them? HELL NO!!!!! You should fight for their right to say whatever the hell they want. The same is true for abortion. I think its an awful thing to do but it should not be up to me what someone else can do with the life choices; murderous or not. Its our disagreeing attitudes that bind us and the law is the framework. Have we lost our way? I think maybe we have.

I honestly do not know how we have managed to make it as far as we have. We are a resilient and amazing species. Fucked up and maniacal, but resilient all the same.

[EliSnow]

I have always found it somewhat disconcerting that someone can receive a conviction for double-murder if they kill a pregnant woman, although an abortion is completely legal. Odd, isn't it? .

It depends upon the trimester. You cannot convicted of a murder of a fetus if the mother is legally able to get an abortion.

[hanso]

Every day I turn off a tv left on to glenn beck. When I get home from work. And on most days in only that minute it must take me to shut it off.
There is beck with some nazi sign. This must be the case alot if I catch it in only one minute. The frequency is unprecedented tieing this nazi stuff to politics as far as I can recall.

[Furtherman]

Nazi is the worst thing you can call a progressive.

[hanso]

I can remember a sign/pic made of bush now and then. Or some write up. But this is every day on tv.

[Bob Impact]

I have always found it somewhat disconcerting that someone can receive a conviction for double-murder if they kill a pregnant woman, although an abortion is completely legal. Odd, isn't it?
I welcome the arguments of free-will versus non-choice.

Abortion is legal, period. Its not a, 'woman's right to choose, mahhhn,' but rather a law. Personally I do not think a rational/normal woman who has the ability to raise a child that was a result of consensual sex between two adults not related to one another; would choose to KILL an unborn baby. And don't kid yourselves, its a killing.

Whereas wrong and unconscionable, its legal and strangely an acceptable practice. So much so that the corrupt Democrats in Washington wanted to use my tax dollars to fund the killings. That is the world we live in. As an adult, you should have the right to make adult decisions like abortion, or smoking pot or whatever the case may be. But, there is always a limit. Pot is illegal but abortion is legal. I will never understand why we do the things we do, but that is the way the world is. I am decidedly anti-abortion but it is also the reason why I support abortion rights. They are law and that is what we have. Often times abortion is a tough decision, but sometimes I would be willing to bet its a method of correcting a problem. Our President said it himself during the campaign. "...if my teenaged daughter gets pregnant, I don't want to punish her with a baby." Well said, Mr. President. As if bringing life into the world is a punishment. But, its legal and an American should have the right to make that choice, no matter how awful an individual like me thinks it is.

I also find it odd that most of the people I know who are so vehemently anti-abortion are also passionately pro-death penalty. Again, I welcome the arguments of free-will versus non-choice.

If preservation of life is truly the goal of it all, is legally killing someone going to bring back your murdered relative? Sadly not. Couple that with the economic impacts on the death penalty and you have what I perceive as a lose-lose scenario no matter how you play it. The death penalty does little more than clog up our legal system, drag cases on for years through the appeals process and costs the American tax payer millions.

The point is Personal Responsibility. A notion that is drying up more and more every day. We continue to lose our personal responsibility and look to others to bail us out. A nation of politically correct chumps is where we are and there is no telling where that will lead us next.

Sometimes we do not agree with the law, but we have to agree to respect the law. I am not likening abortion to Free Speech but I see the same 'passion ' when free speech issues get talked about. If you disagree with someone you hear, should that mean you will do everything in your power to silence them? HELL NO!!!!! You should fight for their right to say whatever the hell they want. The same is true for abortion. I think its an awful thing to do but it should not be up to me what someone else can do with the life choices; murderous or not. Its our disagreeing attitudes that bind us and the law is the framework. Have we lost our way? I think maybe we have.

I honestly do not know how we have managed to make it as far as we have. We are a resilient and amazing species. Fucked up and maniacal, but resilient all the same.


I'll counter your long quote with a long quote that I didn't write:

"An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).

Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?" - Ayn Rand, The Voice of Reason, 58–59

[epo]

I'll counter your long quote with a long quote that I didn't write:

"An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).

Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?" - Ayn Rand, The Voice of Reason, 58–59

How does this link to Glenn Beck being retarded?

[EliSnow]

How does this link to Glenn Beck being retarded?

Because he was aborted, but somehow lived?

[Furtherman]

It was written by a Nazi! Aryan, Ayn Rand, can't you see?!

[Bob Impact]

How does this link to Glenn Beck being retarded?

Because he occasionally holds up Atlas Shrugged and makes me fucking sick?

[Bob Impact]

It was written by a Nazi! Aryan, Ayn Rand, can't you see?!

Or a Russian.

Waitaminute...

COMMIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~@~!~!!!!!!

[Furtherman]

Ah HA! The jig is up!

[Bob Impact]

Ah HA! The jig is up!

racist.

[Furtherman]

Damn. Busted.

[hanso]

Abortion chat makes me want to hear the offensive song contest tracks.

[Death Metal Moe]

This whole thread is based in lies because the title suggests that Glenn Beck was at one point not retarded.

We all know there's no chance of that.

[TeeBone]

You don't catch flack unless you are right over the target. Beck is over your collective target and is bombing the shit out of you. I don't like the guy but calling him retarded because you disagree with him is too funny.

You are the same people that say you believe in free speech but only if you agree with it. What a load...

[epo]

You don't catch flack unless you are right over the target. Beck is over your collective target and is bombing the shit out of you. I don't like the guy but calling him retarded because you disagree with him is too funny.

You are the same people that say you believe in free speech but only if you agree with it. What a load...

You sir are mentally unstable.

Also, John Galt was a fairy.

[TeeBone]

You sir are mentally unstable.

Also, John Galt was a fairy.

You are a prisoner of your own ridiculous notions of life and self-importance that is as actual as a campaign promise issued by our wonderful President.

For your benefit, I will use as many one syllable words I can muster to explain this:
YOU - WILL - DIE - ALONE

(3 out of 4 ain't bad)

[epo]

You are a prisoner of your own ridiculous notions of life and self-importance that is as actual as a campaign promise issued by our wonderful President.

For your benefit, I will use as many one syllable words I can muster to explain this:
YOU - WILL - DIE - ALONE

(3 out of 4 ain't bad)

Yes, your credibility of "Glenn Beck is on to the truth" is shining through.

Beck is nothing more than a shitty carnival act. I'm sorry you can't see that.

[TeeBone]

Beck is nothing more than a shitty carnival act.

Beck is a genius. He found a way to carve out a career on the tails of preaching anti-progressive opinions to a nation that is overwhelmingly supportive of changing the country from its current left-leaning slant. He has helped shape that and his influence is currently boundless.

I happen to disagree with him on many points, particularly his adherence to the church as the answer to our problems. But to call him retarded is in and of itself flawed in its description. Beck has a gimmick, just as any of the talking heads on radio and TV and I doubt anyone in that industry would not want the fame, influence and ridiculous fortune is amassing as a result. Why is it that MSNBC devotes over half its programming to calling out Beck and FOXNEWS? they know its an easy sell because everyone watches, listens and comments on what Beck and FOXNEWS get right and wrong.
YOU DON'T GET IT because you are a fool and number like anyone else who can't see that. The 'shitty carnival act' IS the brilliance. Its a shame more people like you who think they get, actually don't get it.

I love when liberals try to figure things out----great things happen.


OK, I'm done with you, Epo. You are too stupid to argue with. Reply to yourself...or better still, Serpico; he's on par with you. I think you two would really hit it off. This thread stinks no that you got here----later Toolio !!!!

[high fly]

Beck appeals to fellow dunces, that's all..................

[Death Metal Moe]

Yes, your credibility of "Glenn Beck is on to the truth" is shining through.

Beck is nothing more than a shitty carnival act. I'm sorry you can't see that.

Bingo. He feeds his audience what they want. He never challenges them, he never takes them anywhere but where they want to be. He never makes them consider anything new.

It's the same all these dopey cocksmokers do.

Carnies and Rubes. Carnies and Rubes. Have fun walking down the boardwalk, here's your cotton candy.

[Furtherman]

You don't catch flack unless you are right over the target. Beck is over your collective target and is bombing the shit out of you.

What target? Our sense of decency and logic? Yea, he's pounding the shit out of it.

You are a prisoner of your own ridiculous notions of life and self-importance that is as actual as a campaign promise issued by our wonderful President.

Funding for stem cell research? Health care overhaul? Student loan overhaul? The beginnings of bringing our troops home? Like it or not, he's delivering many. Not all, but then again, who does?

[angrymissy]

I have always found it somewhat disconcerting that someone can receive a conviction for double-murder if they kill a pregnant woman, although an abortion is completely legal. Odd, isn't it?
I welcome the arguments of free-will versus non-choice.

Not all States charge for murder of the fetus, and it is generally applied AFTER viability (6 months +), when you cannot legally obtain an abortion (unless there is severe fetal defect) anyway. FWIW, 80% of abortions are performed at 10 weeks or less.

Abortion is legal, period. Its not a, 'woman's right to choose, mahhhn,' but rather a law. Personally I do not think a rational/normal woman who has the ability to raise a child that was a result of consensual sex between two adults not related to one another; would choose to KILL an unborn baby. And don't kid yourselves, its a killing.

It is most certainly "a woman's right to choose, mahhhn". Are you a woman? It's kind of a big deal to have that right to choose, if you don't want to be forced to birth a child that you do not want. It's really easy to act like it's not if you're a dude though, considering you'll never be in that situation.

So it's ok for a woman to abort if they don't have the ability to raise a child? It's murder in your eyes, but its ok to murder if the woman can't take care of the child. You do realize that most abortions are performed for that reason, right?

Whereas wrong and unconscionable, its legal and strangely an acceptable practice. So much so that the corrupt Democrats in Washington wanted to use my tax dollars to fund the killings. That is the world we live in. As an adult, you should have the right to make adult decisions like abortion, or smoking pot or whatever the case may be. But, there is always a limit. Pot is illegal but abortion is legal. I will never understand why we do the things we do, but that is the way the world is. I am decidedly anti-abortion but it is also the reason why I support abortion rights. They are law and that is what we have. Often times abortion is a tough decision, but sometimes I would be willing to bet its a method of correcting a problem. Our President said it himself during the campaign. "...if my teenaged daughter gets pregnant, I don't want to punish her with a baby." Well said, Mr. President. As if bringing life into the world is a punishment. But, its legal and an American should have the right to make that choice, no matter how awful an individual like me thinks it is.

Wrong and unconscionable is your opinion, not a fact.

Forcing a teenaged child to give birth to an unwanted child,would in fact, be punishing that child with pregnancy.

I also find it odd that most of the people I know who are so vehemently anti-abortion are also passionately pro-death penalty. Again, I welcome the arguments of free-will versus non-choice.

If preservation of life is truly the goal of it all, is legally killing someone going to bring back your murdered relative? Sadly not. Couple that with the economic impacts on the death penalty and you have what I perceive as a lose-lose scenario no matter how you play it. The death penalty does little more than clog up our legal system, drag cases on for years through the appeals process and costs the American tax payer millions.

Agreed.

The point is Personal Responsibility. A notion that is drying up more and more every day. We continue to lose our personal responsibility and look to others to bail us out. A nation of politically correct chumps is where we are and there is no telling where that will lead us next.

Where exactly have we lost our sense of personal responsibility? Can you give some examples? Are you talking about healthcare?

[angrymissy]

There's a greater good in killing animals for food but other than the inconvenience/shame a baby would bring to a person what good is there in killing it ?

We're talking fetuses here, not babies, killing babies is illegal.

The greater good is you are not bringing an unwanted child into this world. People say adoption, but who is going to adopt an extra million kids a year? Who is going to take care of the unwanted ones? Who is going to take care of the ones with severe health problems?

[angrymissy]

You don't catch flack unless you are right over the target. Beck is over your collective target and is bombing the shit out of you. I don't like the guy but calling him retarded because you disagree with him is too funny.

You are the same people that say you believe in free speech but only if you agree with it. What a load...

You can catch flack for just being an idiot too. People are not calling him retarded simply because they disagree with him, people are calling him retarded because he does idiotic things (the fake crying, the chalkboard, the overthetop nazi / socialist references).

Can you show me here where anyone has suggested that Glenn Beck should not have the right to free speech? Are we trying to silence Glenn Beck?

We believe in free speech and the right to disagree with what he is saying.

[angrymissy]

I highly doubt that you will get any kind of coherent response from people who mostly get their material from third parties who cherry pick the juicy tidbits for them and assist them in forming their opinions on something they do not watch. As opposed to you - who actually watches it, says so, and probably has more credibility in commenting on it than all of them combined.

I probably watch more Glenn Beck than anyone on this forum, so any comments I make here are from actually watching it, not from third parties.

I've said in the forum before, I'm under treatment for a medical problem and am at the dr's office 1x week around 5pm. GUESS WHAT CHANNEL IS ON THE WAITING ROOM TV!

When I start physical therapy again in the same office, I'll get to watch him 3x a week!!!

[high fly]

You don't catch flack unless you are right over the target. Beck is over your collective target and is bombing the shit out of you. I don't like the guy but calling him retarded because you disagree with him is too funny.

You are the same people that say you believe in free speech but only if you agree with it. What a load...


Uhhhhhhhh, no.
They are just responding by using their own freedom of speech.
Does that bother you?
Beck is a dunce and appeals to dunces, that is all...

[TeeBone]

Where exactly have we lost our sense of personal responsibility?

You've made the examples for me with your diatribe. Look back at what you wrote, analyzes it and answer you own question. There's an example of being personally responsible.
Start with the extra million babies you blathered on about. Next, think of how they were created. Then, ask yourself again how that could be prevented. Follow up with asking if they needed to be taken care of at all if they were never created in the first place. You see, its easy for a conservative minded person to think about personal responsibility. Liberals have difficulty with this because your mindset is predicated on getting help from others and not dealing with your own lives. I say this as well because I honestly enjoy reading the responses. You are aptly named, Missy. This is a lot of fun for me...Hang on, I have to wipe my fake tears out of my face. My Nazi helmet is getting in the way. Now, where is my chalkboard????
It also is in keeping with your ridiculous claim that most abortions are performed because the baby can not be taken care of.....Think about that and then ponder the notion of 'Personal Responsibility.' What rag are you pulling this data from? Was that fact of fiction? Mmmmmm, the latter I'd say. I doubt you have, but have you ever seen a sonogram of a baby? It is the most amazing thing my eyes have ever seen. My first experience with a sonogram was well before 10 weeks and it was obvious that the baby had taken form and all I wanted to do was protect the life of the unborn. If you are responsible enough to make a child, should you not be responsible to take care of it? Adulthood can be difficult, I know, but ultimately has to happen.
I hope for you that you see a baby Missy. Your opinion may change

[angrymissy]

You've made the examples for me with your diatribe. Look back at what you wrote, analyzes it and answer you own question. There's an example of being personally responsible.

Really? To me, being "personally responsible" (everyone loves to throw around that term), is terminating a pregnancy if you cannot care for a child properly. It's just as responsible as giving birth. Now, you can say you are not being responsible by getting pregnant in the first place, but accidents happen and birth control fails.

Start with the extra million babies you blathered on about. Next, think of how they were created. Then, ask yourself again how that could be prevented. Follow up with asking if they needed to be taken care of at all if they were never created in the first place.

Yes, and most of them ARE prevented. However, as I stated before, birth control is not 100%. Accidents happen. But, you didn't answer my question. What will happen with the million extra unwanted babies? Even with their mothers being "personally responsible" and taking care of them themselves, it would be a fantastic life for that child to lead being raised by someone who doesn't want them, right?

Is having a baby you can't afford and then going on welfare being more responsible than terminating the pregnancy? Or do we wish to punish women with pregnancy to teach them a lesson in responsibility.

You see, its easy for a conservative minded person to think about personal responsibility. Liberals have difficulty with this because your mindset is predicated on getting help from others and not dealing with your own lives.

Way to generalize. You epitomize the problem with politics today. Libs do this! Righties do that! My mindset is not predicated on getting help from others, and I deal with my life just fine. I've been living on my own since I was 18 years old, and working since I was 14. Raised my brother from birth and was his parent and advocate through middle and high school since my father worked nights.

But since I'm a "lib", I guess I must have been subsisting solely on handouts since birth, right?

I say this as well because I honestly enjoy reading the responses. You are aptly named, Missy. This is a lot of fun for me...Hang on, I have to wipe my fake tears out of my face. My Nazi helmet is getting in the way. Now, where is my chalkboard????

So now we've moved onto making fun of my name. Intelligent.

It also is in keeping with your ridiculous claim that most abortions are performed because the baby can not be taken care of.....Think about that and then ponder the notion of 'Personal Responsibility.' What rag are you pulling this data from? Was that fact of fiction? Mmmmmm, the latter I'd say.

A little "rag" called the CDC, and the Guttmacher Institute (they've been collecting information on reproductive health since 1968). 3/4 of women obtaining an abortion cannot afford a child. Why, exactly do you think the majority of abortions are performed? Do you think women just don't use birth control and use abortion over and over on a whim? It's not exactly easy or cheap.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5808a1.htm?s_cid=ss5808a1_e

]I doubt you have, but have you ever seen a sonogram of a baby? It is the most amazing thing my eyes have ever seen. My first experience with a sonogram was well before 10 weeks and it was obvious that the baby had taken form and all I wanted to do was protect the life of the unborn. If you are responsible enough to make a child, should you not be responsible to take care of it? Adulthood can be difficult, I know, but ultimately has to happen.
I hope for you that you see a baby Missy. Your opinion may change

Why would you think I have never seen a sonogram of a fetus? I saw plenty at the clinic I volunteered at. I've seen plenty online. I even saw my own before I had an abortion (yup, I asked) I've gone with friends to prenatal appointments, I've even been there for a birth. Potential lives do not trump the lives of already living women. You should tell the 14 year old that is carrying her father's baby that she should be "personally responsible" and carry it to term. If you ever spent just 1 day at a clinic and saw and talked to the women that are going in for abortions, maybe you would feel differently.

I have seen babies (who hasn't), I see them every day, I have nieces and nephews, I raised my younger brother from birth. I will most likely have a baby of my own within the next year or so. My opinion does not, and will not change. No woman should be forced to birth, no unwanted child should be forced to live.

[Ogre]

My opinion does not, and will not change. No woman should be forced to birth, no unwanted child should be forced to live.

I have read your entire post and completely respect your opinion.

I have one question what if that child want's to live?
Live poor as the circumstance may bear out, but live.
What right does the Mother have to deny that child the right to life just because SHE does not wish to be poor?

These are the questions I always come back to when this debate comes up.

What if that welfare baby grows up to be President ? Or finds the cure for AIDS ? We would never know.

[Penelope]

I have read your entire post and completely respect your opinion.

I have one question what if that child want's to live?
Live poor as the circumstance may bear out, but live.
What right does the Mother have to deny that child the right to life just because SHE does not wish to be poor?

These are the questions I always come back to when this debate comes up.

What if that welfare baby grows up to be President ? Or finds the cure for AIDS ? We would never know.

The baby could also grow up to be a rapist or serial killer.
It's a personal decision for each woman anyway, not yours.

[angrymissy]

I have read your entire post and completely respect your opinion.

I have one question what if that child want's to live?
Live poor as the circumstance may bear out, but live.
What right does the Mother have to deny that child the right to life just because SHE does not wish to be poor?

These are the questions I always come back to when this debate comes up.

What if that welfare baby grows up to be President ? Or finds the cure for AIDS ? We would never know.

A fetus does not have the ability to want to live or not. A fetus is not a child until it's born.

A Mother has the right to deny that fetus from being born because without her, the fetus cannot survive. The rights of the already living human being are above the rights of a potential life.

What if that welfare baby grows up to be Hitler? Or Charles Manson? We would never know. It goes both ways.

[Penelope]

I have always found it somewhat disconcerting that someone can receive a conviction for double-murder if they kill a pregnant woman, although an abortion is completely legal. Odd, isn't it?
I welcome the arguments of free-will versus non-choice.

Abortion is legal, period. Its not a, 'woman's right to choose, mahhhn,' but rather a law. Personally I do not think a rational/normal woman who has the ability to raise a child that was a result of consensual sex between two adults not related to one another; would choose to KILL an unborn baby. And don't kid yourselves, its a killing.

Whereas wrong and unconscionable, its legal and strangely an acceptable practice. So much so that the corrupt Democrats in Washington wanted to use my tax dollars to fund the killings. That is the world we live in. As an adult, you should have the right to make adult decisions like abortion, or smoking pot or whatever the case may be. But, there is always a limit. Pot is illegal but abortion is legal. I will never understand why we do the things we do, but that is the way the world is. I am decidedly anti-abortion but it is also the reason why I support abortion rights. They are law and that is what we have. Often times abortion is a tough decision, but sometimes I would be willing to bet its a method of correcting a problem. Our President said it himself during the campaign. "...if my teenaged daughter gets pregnant, I don't want to punish her with a baby." Well said, Mr. President. As if bringing life into the world is a punishment. But, its legal and an American should have the right to make that choice, no matter how awful an individual like me thinks it is.

I also find it odd that most of the people I know who are so vehemently anti-abortion are also passionately pro-death penalty. Again, I welcome the arguments of free-will versus non-choice.

If preservation of life is truly the goal of it all, is legally killing someone going to bring back your murdered relative? Sadly not. Couple that with the economic impacts on the death penalty and you have what I perceive as a lose-lose scenario no matter how you play it. The death penalty does little more than clog up our legal system, drag cases on for years through the appeals process and costs the American tax payer millions.

The point is Personal Responsibility. A notion that is drying up more and more every day. We continue to lose our personal responsibility and look to others to bail us out. A nation of politically correct chumps is where we are and there is no telling where that will lead us next.

Sometimes we do not agree with the law, but we have to agree to respect the law. I am not likening abortion to Free Speech but I see the same 'passion ' when free speech issues get talked about. If you disagree with someone you hear, should that mean you will do everything in your power to silence them? HELL NO!!!!! You should fight for their right to say whatever the hell they want. The same is true for abortion. I think its an awful thing to do but it should not be up to me what someone else can do with the life choices; murderous or not. Its our disagreeing attitudes that bind us and the law is the framework. Have we lost our way? I think maybe we have.

I honestly do not know how we have managed to make it as far as we have. We are a resilient and amazing species. Fucked up and maniacal, but resilient all the same.

You talk about how fucked up others are, but you think abortion is murder, but deal with it because it is legal. Really?!!! You know it isn't murder. Get off your high horse.
"Have we lost our way? I think maybe we have." Puh-leeze. Feel free to leave.

[Furtherman]

I have one question what if that child want's to live?

A fetus doesn't want. A fetus isn't even self aware, it's running on instinct, autopilot, much like any other animal.

[booster11373]

Slightly off topic but what would America look like if Beck and his followers took over?

Welcome to Glennbeckistan

Where the Tea Party Rules and the Tea-hadis Roam

http://www.truthout.org/welcome-glennbeckistan58079

[StanUpshaw]

A fetus doesn't want. A fetus isn't even self aware, it's running on instinct, autopilot, much like any other animal.

The same would apply to a newborn.

[TjM]

diatribe.

Pot kettle

[underdog]

Best. Pictures. Ever. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/sets/72157623594187379/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4469684454_376b123772_o.png

[TjM]

Best. Pictures. Ever. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/sets/72157623594187379/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4469684454_376b123772_o.png

:laugh:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2732/4468907309_a629dd44d7.jpg

[Furtherman]

Those signs are great!

[Curt]

Slightly off topic but what would America look like if Beck and his followers took over?

Welcome to Glennbeckistan

Where the Tea Party Rules and the Tea-hadis Roam

http://www.truthout.org/welcome-glennbeckistan58079

Utah is a wacky fucking place. I can't believe I live in the same country as those people.

[StanUpshaw]

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8460/4468905303d9e92640f4o.png

At least this one makes sense.


He hates 'N's!

[hanso]

A fetus doesn't want. A fetus isn't even self aware, it's running on instinct, autopilot, much like any other animal.

The same would apply to a newborn.

And Glennbeckstonian's

[StanUpshaw]

And Glennbeckstonian's


*Glennbeckistanis

[EliSnow]

*Glennbeckistanis

Those damn Beckies.

[StanUpshaw]

Those damn Beckies.

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/6786/inflamedcunt.jpg

[Syd]

I have one question what if that child want's to live?

What if an unfertilized egg wants to live?

[Bob Impact]

What if an unfertilized egg wants to live?

Damn it, don't make me agree with you Syd.

Seriously though, until it's born it's only a potential, not an actual human, it has no wants or desires.

[Ogre]

The baby could also grow up to be a rapist or serial killer.
It's a personal decision for each woman anyway, not yours.

Never said it was my decision or anyone else's.

[Syd]

Damn it, don't make me agree with you Syd.

Seriously though, until it's born it's only a potential, not an actual human, it has no wants or desires.

I think that is the only way to look at abortion logically. For quite awhile, what is inside a woman isn't necessarily human. It may become one, may not. Totally should be up to the woman -- it is her body, after all. I don't think abortion should be taken lightly, at all, but it is something that should be available to all woman who wish to make that choice.

[weekapaugjz]

I think that is the only way to look at abortion logically. For quite awhile, what is inside a woman isn't necessarily human. It may become one, may not. Totally should be up to the woman -- it is her body, after all. I don't think abortion should be taken lightly, at all, but it is something that should be available to all woman who wish to make that choice.

those are my exact thoughts. well put.

[TeeBone]

Get off your high horse.


I like you magical horse pictured at left.

[mikeyboy]

You know what makes for a fun message board topic? Abortion.

[TeeBone]

Really?

I love how much time you have devoted to this....I really do. You wrote a lot but said NOTHING I haven't heard a million times over. I am glad we've had this talk and again, you have made my point for me without realizing you have and I doubt you never will.:bye:

[epo]

You know what makes for a fun message board topic? Abortion.

Worst issue ever.

[TeeBone]

Worst issue ever.

Finally, I agree with you, Epo.

[keithy_19]

Worst issue ever.

But fun and tangy at the same time.

[EliSnow]

I love how much time you have devoted to this....I really do. You wrote a lot but said NOTHING I haven't heard a million times over. I am glad we've had this talk and again, you have made my point for me without realizing you have and I doubt you never will.:bye:


Do you think anything you said was something that hasn't been heard before?

And her posts didn't make your point. You didn't win the big abortion debate.

[hanso]

You know what makes for a fun message board topic? Abortion.

Yeah there must be some threads on this. Glenn Beck is such a mighty Mo. He may not even bring it up.

[TeeBone]

I will try to answer you post, in the style of our little Miss-Missy, who also happens to be angry::

Do you think anything you said was something that hasn't been heard before?
Yes, I do. I think my opinion is a bit different given I support the lives of both the living and the unborn. I am anti-murder of babies and death row criminals. I have not seen that around too much. Unique, perhaps----Earth Shattering, not at all. I have an opinion and respect opinions of others. Its nice to poke fun a little and get people going though...don't take it so seriously, mahhhhn.

her posts didn't make your point. You didn't win the big abortion debate.
I beg to differ. If you read her post you may fall victim to caring about her claims of raising her brother, but I doubt you will get anything else out of it. Its riddled with false-facts and supported about as strongly as homemade rope.
I have to leave it alone and try not to be too negative. I am trying, I really am, but her post makes me think of the old saying that ends with, "...removing all doubt." That is the last you will hear about it from me.

Glen Beck is not retarded but rather a smart businessman who has made himself marketable through getting people to talk about him. We are doing it now and its enough already.
I personally do not like the guy all that much, but respect the hell out of his meteoric rise to the top. I feel the same about our current President. I loathe but respect him.

As far as who won or lost and if Missy is a good girl----I say she won and is more than likely a nice person. :unsure:

[Penelope]

You know what makes for a fun message board topic? Abortion.

Word :laugh:

[KnoxHarrington]

You know what makes for a fun message board topic? Abortion.

It works at parties too. Try it next time you're at one: "Hey, who here's ever had an abortion? Or performed one? Anyone?"

[Death Metal Moe]

I know Abortion is murder and I still support it.

That unconscious lump is going to be a baby, and if the mother wants to get rid of it, let her.

[StanUpshaw]

Here what I don't get: Since we've established that a woman shouldn't have to suffer eighteen years of punishment for one irresponsible mistake, why is a man forced to?

Obviously a man cannot force a woman to either keep or abort the fetus against her will, so where are the man's rights?

If a woman (who, as we have established, is the sole judge of what happens in her body) carries to term, and doesn't give the baby up for adoption, shouldn't that be an indication that she has accepted all of the responsibilities that follow?

[EliSnow]

I will try to answer you post, in the style of our little Miss-Missy, who also happens to be angry::


Yes, I do. I think my opinion is a bit different given I support the lives of both the living and the unborn. I am anti-murder of babies and death row criminals. I have not seen that around too much. Unique, perhaps----Earth Shattering, not at all. I have an opinion and respect opinions of others. Its nice to poke fun a little and get people going though...don't take it so seriously, mahhhhn.

Whether your opinion is unique or not, the points you were making in support of your opinion were not in the least. To the extent Missy's points have been heard before, so were yours.

And the fact that you're doing Anthony's mahhhnn bit says a lot as well.

I beg to differ. If you read her post you may fall victim to caring about her claims of raising her brother, but I doubt you will get anything else out of it. Its riddled with false-facts and supported about as strongly as homemade rope.
I have to leave it alone and try not to be too negative. I am trying, I really am, but her post makes me think of the old saying that ends with, "...removing all doubt." That is the last you will hear about it from me.

She provided citations to her facts. You had no facts at all, and indeed, you started off your post with the false position that "someone can receive a conviction for double-murder if they kill a pregnant woman, although an abortion is completely legal." As we have pointed out, you cannot be convicted of murder of a fetus, if the fetus could have been aborted at that time.

And she didn't rely upon sympathy for her brother. She's directly contradicting your point about liberals not getting personal responsibility. And that point was a pile of horse shit. Shit, any statement that all liberals or are conservatives have the same defect or even virtue is ridiculous.

Moreover, your opinions have targeted her personally, by making fun of her name, as one example. Shit, this very thread did it again. That undermines your points right there.

Glen Beck is not retarded but rather a smart businessman who has made himself marketable through getting people to talk about him. We are doing it now and its enough already.

Do you get the point that the title is meant to encompass instances where positions he takes are ridiculous, and that it's not meant to be statement of fact that he's retarded?

The point of the thread is to point out when he makes points/arguments that are really unbelievable. Whether he takes such position because he believes them as well as being a smart businessman, I don't know.

But he says stupid shit, a lot.

[TeeBone]

Perhaps we can continue the conversation of Glenn Beck's apparent retardation on Missy's popular, 'Friday April 2nd' thread.......Ahhhhh, too soon?:wallbash:
I will not belabor the point with a moderator of this board. As such, your 20,000+ posts indicate a viewpoint that is saturated with too much time spent looking at a computer screen. Like the aptly named AngryMissy, your moniker of, 'King Nerd' is right on, mahhhhhn. (I threw that in for your displeasure)

I'm moving out of country in a few weeks anyway, so my days making you all crazy are numbered.

[EliSnow]

Perhaps we can continue the conversation of Glenn Beck's apparent retardation on Missy's popular, 'Friday April 2nd' thread.......Ahhhhh, too soon?:wallbash:
I will not belabor the point with a moderator of this board. As such, your 20,000+ posts indicate a viewpoint that is saturated with too much time spent looking at a computer screen. Like the aptly named AngryMissy, your moniker of, 'King Nerd' is right on, mahhhhhn. (I threw that in for your displeasure)

I'm moving out of country in a few weeks anyway, so my days making you all crazy are numbered.

There you go, insulting the person you are debating with rather than discussing the point.

And the King Nerd moniker was something I gave myself due to my comic book hobby.

And I suggest that to the extent you want to continue debating here in your remaining days, you keep comments about other posters to a minimum.

[TeeBone]

you keeps comments about other posters to a minimum.

You are right----my bad. I apologize. I will keeps my negative comments to myself and bother you no more on this board.

[hanso]

And no jabs on the lighter side thread. It's ment for satire only.
Hence the name of the thread.

If you folks want to go off topic so badly please start your own thread.

[A.J.]

We're talking fetuses here, not babies, killing babies is illegal.

The greater good is you are not bringing an unwanted child into this world. People say adoption, but who is going to adopt an extra million kids a year? Who is going to take care of the unwanted ones? Who is going to take care of the ones with severe health problems?

With that new health care bill, we all are.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8460/4468905303d9e92640f4o.png

At least this one makes sense.


He hates 'N's!

He probably hates them too.

[high fly]

With that new health care bill, we all are.

We already are.
Now more people will be paying for it.

[A.J.]

We already are.
Now more people will be paying for it.

It takes a nation to raise a child.

[underdog]

My friend tossed out an idea about what to do to counter protest the tea baggers on Wednesday in Boston, and it really took the fuck off (http://therealbostonteaparty.com/).

[Furtherman]

My friend tossed out an idea about what to do to counter protest the tea baggers on Wednesday in Boston, and it really took the fuck off (http://therealbostonteaparty.com/).

“Free Teabet!”

:lol:

[underdog]

So the actual Tea Party went down today and looked hilarious.

But apparently, the tea baggers really wanted to stop (http://redmassgroup.com/diary/8049/have-the-counterclassy-tea-party-protesters-obtained-all-permits-to-serve-food) a bunch of people from dressing up fancy and drinking tea.

[Dan 'Hampton]

I love any protest wether I agree or not that is a legal annoying pain in the ass.

[high fly]

I had a tea bowel movement earlier today...

[A.J.]

I had a tea bowel movement earlier today...

And then you wiped with tea paper?

[high fly]

And then you wiped with tea paper?

Used tea paper.

Today, Beck was expounding on the theme of "honesty."
Funny stuff.......

[hanso]

He is on a fear monger tear now. (last few days) This should last at least a week.

[Serpico1103]

I caught a couple minutes yesterday. He was saying that when he had nothing, he was happy. So, why are high taxes such a focus?

He was wearing the douchebag uniform. Suit with converses with no laces. Ugh.

[Bob Impact]

Suit with converses with no laces. Ugh.

I never LIKED Glen Beck, I just never thought of him just like he was an ass and a moron but nothing really more than that. Now I hate his fuckin guts.

[foodcourtdruide]

I caught a couple minutes yesterday. He was saying that when he had nothing, he was happy. So, why are high taxes such a focus?

He was wearing the douchebag uniform. Suit with converses with no laces. Ugh.

Ron talks about this sometimes. This notion of glorifying poverty, but avoiding it at all costs. It plays big in country songs.

[Serpico1103]

Wealthy wear survivng poverty as a badge of honor. Reverse snobbery. They like to think they climbed from the depths of despair by themselves. I just found it funny that beck said that not losing his soul was all that mattered. Well that and lowering taxes on the wealthy.

[Barnaby Jones]

Just so long as he can keep researching freedom for free at our socialized libraries! God bless America!

[torker]

http://cleaverb.org/retro/jaws/Chalkboard.jpg

He's makin chalkboards sexy again.

http://thumb1.visualizeus.com/thumbs/08/09/02/blackboard,chalk,chalkboard,man,message,nothing,ph oto,portrait,teacher-a8287fcf63aab01ef41986d9a11984b6_m.jpg

[hanso]

Just so long as he can keep researching freedom for free at our socialized libraries! God bless America!

W/O Jefferson tyvm.

[high fly]

I listened to some of Beck's radio show earlier today.
He got himself in a lather over President Obama praising New York for the way they handled the failed carbomb attack in Times Square.
One line was something like:
"You're taking your hat off to New Yorkers, Mr. President? Well you just keep your hat on!"

Then he started crying and Stu had to get him a tissue.....

[booster11373]

I listened to some of Beck's radio show earlier today.
He got himself in a lather over President Obama praising New York for the way they handled the failed carbomb attack in Times Square.
One line was something like:
"You're taking your hat off to New Yorkers, Mr. President? Well you just keep your hat on!"

Then he started crying and Stu had to get him a tissue.....

What was his point?

[high fly]

...........that he will criticize anything Obama does...........

[Bob Impact]

"You're taking your hat off to New Yorkers, Mr. President? Well you just keep your hat on!"


Ouch. That's over the line.

[torker]

He's sick of the high hat.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bHSVCs9rX0A/RoiWg3hXpNI/AAAAAAAABP8/pd1Ao9HZXX4/s320/miller+polito.jpg

[weekapaugjz]

He's sick of the high hat.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bHSVCs9rX0A/RoiWg3hXpNI/AAAAAAAABP8/pd1Ao9HZXX4/s320/miller+polito.jpg

:clap:

[Furtherman]

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Great news! After millennia of only giving prophet powers to the homeless, God has finally given us one that we can relate to and DVR in case we're out sinning when he's preaching. Glen Beck will save our souls and country!

[oxydendrum]

Lewis Black on Beck's Nazi Tourettes:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-12-2010/back-in-black---glenn-beck-s-nazi-tourette-s