Can NJ people "claim" NYC?

[Aggie]

What I mean is when I hear songs like "New York, New York" or "New York State of Mind" I feel like I can relate or I get sentimental for my youth. And when 9-11 happened I felt like it affected me more than say, the average Texan or someone not from the tri-state area.

But a) I grew up in central Jersey and b) I've lived in Texas since 1996. Am I entitled to these emotions? I feel like I am but I don't know. This is similar to my feeling about me answering "New Jersey" when people ask where I'm from even though I've lived here almost as long.

What a conundrum.

[JPMNICK]

I live about 25 mins outside the city, and when I am on the road I just say I am from NYC. when I am in NYC, i say I am from NJ. when you are more then 200 miles outside the area, and you say NJ, no one really knows how close you are to NYC. a lot of people say they are from LA and Chicago when they dont actually live inside the city lines.

[nate1000]

:popcorn:

[JerseyRich]

I actually live closer to Manhattan than some people that actually live in NYC...

So I say yes.

[EliSnow]

What I mean is when I hear songs like "New York, New York" or "New York State of Mind" I feel like I can relate or I get sentimental for my youth. And when 9-11 happened I felt like it affected me more than say, the average Texan or someone not from the tri-state area.

But a) I grew up in central Jersey and b) I've lived in Texas since 1996. Am I entitled to these emotions? I feel like I am but I don't know. This is similar to my feeling about me answering "New Jersey" when people ask where I'm from even though I've lived here almost as long.

What a conundrum.

My question is how a NJ girl gets her big hair under her cowboy hat.

[Aggie]

My question is how a NJ girl gets her big hair under her cowboy hat.

That's why I love Texas so much, they wear their hair just as big here! That's why the women just wear boots and not hats.

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[ANC]

Grew up in NY, (well an outer borough) but spent plenty of time in Brooklyn, Manhattan over the years and I lived in the Bronx for 4 years.

Lived in NJ in Middlesex County for 3 years and now I live down by the Jersey Shore.

If asked I tell people where I live now. or I live in Jersey, well originally from Staten Island.

Meh

[EliSnow]

That's why I love Texas so much, they wear their hair just as big here! That's why the women just wear boots and not hats.

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That's not hair. That's a small animal.

[moochcassidy]

no and neither can Long kIsland

[Kublakhan61]

If you want to say NYC but you're unsure due to the fact that you don't ACTUALLY live there, then no, you should be proud of where you live, and rep your hood.

It seems envious. Long Islanders are not from NYC, so NJ can't be either.
Just one man's opinion.

[JerseyRich]

no and neither can Long kIsland

You're British.

[Misteriosa]

You're British.

SLAP HIM MOOCH!!

[JerseyRich]

SLAP HIM MOOCH!!

Bunz yo.

[Misteriosa]

Bunz yo.

youre the one who's bunz, kid.

[underdog]

no and neither can Long kIsland

You're British.

Yeah, but he's right.

[Aggie]

I'm kind of like the Giants. Stuck in Jersey but wanting to rep NY.

[JerseyRich]

Yeah, but he's right.

I've never called myself a NYer...

I'm a Metropolitan Arean.

[topless_mike]

to me,

island of manhatten = nyc
all other locations should be referred to by their respective names.
you can live "just outside the city" or "in a suburb of", but unless you lay your head and ass on that overhyped 3x11 mile island, then no.

you claim nothing. you get nothing. good day sir.

[EliSnow]

I'm a Metropolitan Arean.

And Katja is a Metroplitan Aryan.

[Misteriosa]

well then if i go by mike's standards, they should stop taking those nyc taxes out of my pay.

[JerseyRich]

And Katja is a Metroplitan Aryan.

She's just a country bumpkin.

[foodcourtdruide]

I think you can claim NYC if you have a FULL TIME JOB in one of the boroughs or live in one of them.

[Aggie]

I've never said or claimed to be from the city, I just feel a connection to it like when Frank is belting out NY, NY and that's what I'm confused about. Not from there but I can "feel" those NYC songs, movies and stuff. I can't really explain it.

[EliSnow]

Side questions: how long do you have after you move to NYC before you can "claim" it, and how long after you move, are you stopped from "claiming" it?

I was in NYC for 10 years, and moved out two years ago. I stopped claiming it within 3 months of moving.

[ANC]

I've never said or claimed to be from the city, I just feel a connection to it like when Frank is belting out NY, NY and that's what I'm confused about. Not from there but I can "feel" those NYC songs, movies and stuff. I can't really explain it.

Also it should be mentioned that New York, New York is about someone wanting to leave where they live and move to New York, so I think anyone who appreciates the city can claim it.


Then again it's just a song and I got more important thing to worry about right now..... :laugh:

[EddieMoscone]

I actually live closer to Manhattan than some people that actually live in NYC...

So I say yes.

But the key part here is that they actually live in NYC...

[foodcourtdruide]

I've never said or claimed to be from the city, I just feel a connection to it like when Frank is belting out NY, NY and that's what I'm confused about. Not from there but I can "feel" those NYC songs, movies and stuff. I can't really explain it.

I grew up in Queens and moved out to Staten Island and definitely feel the difference between the two. When I visit friends in Jersey (even friends in Jersey City) I feel an even bigger difference. There are so many things unique about the 5 boroughs, people I know that have moved from NYC say there is a difference.

[foodcourtdruide]

Side questions: how long do you have after you move to NYC before you can "claim" it, and how long after you move, are you stopped from "claiming" it?

I was in NYC for 10 years, and moved out two years ago. I stopped claiming it within 3 months of moving.

Immediately and immediately.

[topless_mike]

And Katja is a Metroplitan Aryan.

not your best work..

[foodcourtdruide]

But the key part here is that they actually live in NYC...

Also, there are parts of NYC that have their own unique characteristics that add to the term "NYC". Flushing, Astoria, Bensonhurst, South Bronx, etc etc etc. are unique areas.

Why don't people from NJ find identity with their own state? There are some awesome things in NJ.

[topless_mike]

well then if i go by mike's standards, they should stop taking those nyc taxes out of my pay.

i agree. nyc taxes are a fucking scam.

Side questions: how long do you have after you move to NYC before you can "claim" it, and how long after you move, are you stopped from "claiming" it?

I was in NYC for 10 years, and moved out two years ago. I stopped claiming it within 3 months of moving.

claiming is an at the moment deal. the moment you officially live there, you can claim it.
same goes for exiting.

[Aggie]

Also, there are parts of NYC that have their own unique characteristics that add to the term "NYC". Flushing, Astoria, Bensonhurst, South Bronx, etc etc etc. are unique areas.

Why don't people from NJ find identity with their own state? There are some awesome things in NJ.

I'm proud to be from NJ, everyone who meets me knows it quickly. Jersey was my nickname in college. I even have it in my location under my username.

"Claim" was in quotes because I didn't really know what word to use or how to explain my sentiment. I feel a connection to both places but never claim to be from there. I think I'm confusing people.

[foodcourtdruide]

I'm proud to be from NJ, everyone who meets me knows it quickly. Jersey was my nickname in college. I even have it in my location under my username.

"Claim" was in quotes because I didn't really know what word to use or how to explain my sentiment. I feel a connection to both places but never claim to be from there. I think I'm confusing people.

It's ok budday, I think I get it.

The connection you're talking about is far different from claiming. I think anyone who's ever been to NYC can probably have the connection you're talking about.

And you're not really confusing me. But I am thirsty. I'm not sure if you caused that.

[Aggie]

It's ok budday, I think I get it.

The connection you're talking about is far different from claiming. I think anyone who's ever been to NYC can probably have the connection you're talking about.

And you're not really confusing me. But I am thirsty. I'm not sure if you caused that.

I can have that affect on people. :devil2:

[SatCam]

in ct i tell people im from ny. in ny i tell people im from ct

[underdog]

to me,

island of manhatten = nyc
all other locations should be referred to by their respective names.
you can live "just outside the city" or "in a suburb of", but unless you lay your head and ass on that overhyped 3x11 mile island, then no.

you claim nothing. you get nothing. good day sir.

I agree with this.

[GregoryJoseph]

Having lived my entire life in the New Jersey suburbs 10 minutes from the George Washington Bridge, I can say I never heard anyone from my neck of the woods refer to it as "New York City."

It is simply "The City."

OUR City.

[underdog]

Having lived my entire life in the New Jersey suburbs 10 minutes from the George Washington Bridge, I can say I never heard anyone from my neck of the woods refer to it as "New York City."

It is simply "The City."

OUR City.

You call New Jersey "The City"?

[TheGameHHH]

I can't stand people that live in Jersey but tell people they're from NYC. It's drives me crazy and I have nothing but contempt for them. It's like living in Georgia but telling somebody you're from Florida, why would you say such a stupid thing? It's not a difficult question to answer, 'where are you from?' 'oh, im from ______'.

I have never and will never claim NYC. If people want to know a relation to the city I'm more than happy to tell them I'm 20-25 mins outside Manhattan but I don't live there so why would I say I'm from there?

[mikeyboy]

Side questions: how long do you have after you move to NYC before you can "claim" it, and how long after you move, are you stopped from "claiming" it?

I was in NYC for 10 years, and moved out two years ago. I stopped claiming it within 3 months of moving.


claiming is an at the moment deal. the moment you officially live there, you can claim it.
same goes for exiting.

I didn't claim it until living there 4 or 5 years.

[led37zep]

Side questions: how long do you have after you move to NYC before you can "claim" it, and how long after you move, are you stopped from "claiming" it?

I was in NYC for 10 years, and moved out two years ago. I stopped claiming it within 3 months of moving.

Its been a year and a half since I moved to NYC and I still say I'm from Northern California.

Hell, I lived in LA for six years before moving here and I still never claimed that.

[Jujubees2]

To me Manhattan is The City

New York City is the five boroughs

And if you're not living in any of them then you shouldn't say you're from NYC.

[Ritalin]

To me Manhattan is The City

New York City is the five boroughs

And if you're not living in any of them then you shouldn't say you're from NYC.

Exactly. Only we say we're going to town for Manhattan.

[sr71blackbird]

I work with a Brooklyn guy who hates Long Island with a passion. He cannot get it though his skull that Brooklyn is a part of Long Island. I show him a map, ask him what bridges he goes over to get from Brooklyn to Long Island. He just won't accept that its the same land mass.

[Yosammity]

I actually live closer to Manhattan than some people that actually live in NYC...

So I say yes.

I live in NYC. I live closer to Philadelphia than a lot of people in Pennsylvania. I guess I can claim Philly.

[Jujubees2]

I work with a Brooklyn guy who hates Long Island with a passion. He cannot get it though his skull that Brooklyn is a part of Long Island. I show him a map, ask him what bridges he goes over to get from Brooklyn to Long Island. He just won't accept that its the same land mass.

So by your logic, West Virginia is part of Georgia since you don't have to go over any bridges to get there.

Long Island is Nassau and Suffolk Counties. Brooklyn and Queens, while located on the land mass known as Long Island, are NYC.

[Ritalin]

There are parts of NYC that barely feel like a part of the city.

Take Breezy Point for example. Technically they can say they're in the city, but it's really not even a city out there.

Not that it matters to me. I don't care where people say they're from one way or the other.

But Breezy Point is like Nantucket or something.

[walking joint]

i live on Long Island and if asked I say Long Island. Sometimes I'll say New York, but never NYC.

[A.J.]

Having lived my entire life in the New Jersey suburbs 10 minutes from the George Washington Bridge, I can say I never heard anyone from my neck of the woods refer to it as "New York City."

It is simply "The City."

I grew up in CT and it was always referred to "The City" as well.

[angrymissy]

Yes, it's "The City", and growing up in Westchester and telling people where I lived - In New York. Westchester. About 45 min north of the city.

[EliSnow]

I didn't claim it until living there 4 or 5 years.

I think I did the same thing. I had heard in the past that you couldn't claim to be a New Yorker til you lived there for several years consecutively.

[ANC]

When I lived in Staten Island I would say I'm from Staten Island.. then I would pause and waited for a sarcastic comment or chuckle... :laugh:

[Thebazile78]

I think I know what Aggie's getting at here.

I get all sentimental and chokey whenever I hear a little Frank "New York, New York" ... and have criss-crossed the NY State border for multiple school and scout outings (as well as family visits) so I also feel a sentimental connection to a song like "New York State of Mind"

I love NJ, have lived here my entire life and refuse to tell people I'm from anywhere but NJ. I will also threaten to bust some heads if anybody calls it "Joisey."

But, having lived within sight of the Manhattan skyline for my entire childhood and having The City loom large over much of my young adult and college years, whether it was a treat to visit or another Art History project I had to schlep in to do, I really do feel a deeper connection to NYC than, say, your average Texan or Californian. Heck, I've served as a sort of "ambassador" to out-of-town friends visiting the City for the first time because I've spent so much time walking there ... of course, it really helps that Midtown is a grid (LOL) and I'm not afraid to get a little lost.

As for 9/11, I grew up with two young men who were among the casualties on September 11th 2001, so I can (and DO) get incredibly emotional whenever it's brought up. There have been times when I've wanted to punch in some faces for inappropriate behaviors or other dumbass comments regarding Ground Zero and memorials and such.

So, yeah, in the way Aggie's saying, I guess I DO "claim" NYC ... because I love it fiercely, even though it's not home.

[Aggie]

I think I know what Aggie's getting at here.

I get all sentimental and chokey whenever I hear a little Frank "New York, New York" ... and have criss-crossed the NY State border for multiple school and scout outings (as well as family visits) so I also feel a sentimental connection to a song like "New York State of Mind"

I love NJ, have lived here my entire life and refuse to tell people I'm from anywhere but NJ. I will also threaten to bust some heads if anybody calls it "Joisey."

But, having lived within sight of the Manhattan skyline for my entire childhood and having The City loom large over much of my young adult and college years, whether it was a treat to visit or another Art History project I had to schlep in to do, I really do feel a deeper connection to NYC than, say, your average Texan or Californian. Heck, I've served as a sort of "ambassador" to out-of-town friends visiting the City for the first time because I've spent so much time walking there ... of course, it really helps that Midtown is a grid (LOL) and I'm not afraid to get a little lost.

As for 9/11, I grew up with two young men who were among the casualties on September 11th 2001, so I can (and DO) get incredibly emotional whenever it's brought up. There have been times when I've wanted to punch in some faces for inappropriate behaviors or other dumbass comments regarding Ground Zero and memorials and such.

So, yeah, in the way Aggie's saying, I guess I DO "claim" NYC ... because I love it fiercely, even though it's not home.

Exactly. This is one of the many reasons I missed you. :)

[ecobag2]

Am I entitled to these emotions? I feel like I am but I don't know.
No - you're filthy and bad for having them too.

Now pray you don't receive eternal hell.