Roman Polanski finally arrested

[PD]

as a parent I happen to think it is NOT irrelevant where the parents were, they have a legal obligation to protect their child as well. Polanski raping her was a terrible crime and he should serve time for it, yet parents are prosecuted these days if they don't properly supervise their children.

and for the record, Dude! has been claiming over and over that she was just an innocent child, a little girl. My comment was directed at him.


(and I am sure some of you will think that my opinions are in defense of Polanski's actions, which I assure you, they are not.)
I agree with you on both points katja.

While the ultimate responsibility is Polanski's, the parents should never have let her go unattended to this "photo shoot", just as no parent should have let their kid "sleep over" at Michael Jackson's house.

[~Katja~]

Are you this consistent and passionate over the stories of the hot teachers who fuck 13 year old male CHILDREN????

I'm not debating the drugging and raping, because there is nothing to debate there, but the double standards some people are showing when talkiing about a girl having sex with a adult man vs. when a boy has sex with an adult woman - if one is a child, then they are all children, and should be protected and defended as such.
I was thinking the same earlier, if a teenage boy got "lucky" with an older female the standards are usually lower and people see it as less of a crime

if they drug and rape them
yes, of course
they may not always involve drugs but usually alcohol and heavy seduction, so then would that make it consensual and no longer a rape?

From what I read Polanski had said that she was sexually experienced and consented which he later dropped as part of the plea bargain when pleading guilty.
Now I don't know if I want to believe him in his statements, yet the fact that the victim has expressed numerous times that she never wanted him to go to jail makes me wonder. Without a proper trial we will never know, I am just sad for her having to deal with the matter again when she has no interest whatsoever to do so.

I also can say as a foreigner, the american justice system has a pretty bad rep of it being corrupt and often unfair and people are scared of it. I personally had 2 instances with the law where I walked out thinking how in the world could this be legal in a modern country like this.

[~Katja~]

I agree with you on both points katja.

While the ultimate responsibility is Polanski's, the parents should never have let her go unattended to this "photo shoot", just as no parent should have let their kid "sleep over" at Michael Jackson's house.
and it seems the people (and media) judging the case in the past 30 some years feel the same and have tried to put blame on the parents which ultimately has given the victim more grief and stress than the actual incident.

[JimBeam]

Its a 31 year old story. The victim has said let it go. Men having sex with teenage girls has been going on a lot longer than cell phones; it happens all the time, probably in your town and at the very least in your state, within the last month Id be willing to bet.

So for you to get outraged about this is false outrage, because we in America worship celebrities and this guy is a celebrity and is on your TV and computer.

Ryan Seacrest is telling you its bad and you put down your big mac and are so fired up, what do you do? You come on a message board and bitch about what happened.


You dont fly to California to demonstrate or try to get legislation passsed or form neighborhood watches or invent an all new & improved chastity belt, no because its false outrage.

Furthermore, for you to be so outraged that you would wish my kids get raped, besides making you a classic internet pussy talking trash you would never do face to face, makes you a brainwashed tool and a creep.

First of all I never called you a name and it's ironic that your name calling and threat " to meet face to face " w/ whoever you are pissed at is equally as much you hiding behind the computer no ?

As far as protesting goes, there's verey little I'd actually protest about so your end conclusion is still faulty.

People can be made about whatever they want, whenever they want and there's no time limit for it. There's no statute of limitations on a opinion.

And I believe most of this thread, at least the start of it, was about how it's good that they arrested him. So anybody in here that disagrees is actually the one doing the protesting, at least as far as the thread goes.

When/if a story breaks that he doesn't get prosecuted you'll see people w/ the opinion that it's a travesty of justice and then you can tell them that according to your rules they can't have that opinion because they weren't born when the rape occured or because they haven't picketted enough yet this year to warrant a sya on the matter.

Which leads me to the fact that since you have such a strong opinion that seems to be in the minority does that mean you've met you requisite amount of hours protesting for rapists and pedophiles ?

[Crispy123]

First of all I never called you a name and it's ironic that your name calling and threat " to meet face to face " w/ whoever you are pissed at is equally as much you hiding behind the computer no ?

As far as protesting goes, there's verey little I'd actually protest about so your end conclusion is still faulty.

People can be made about whatever they want, whenever they want and there's no time limit for it. There's no statute of limitations on a opinion.

And I believe most of this thread, at least the start of it, was about how it's good that they arrested him. So anybody in here that disagrees is actually the one doing the protesting, at least as far as the thread goes.

When/if a story breaks that he doesn't get prosecuted you'll see people w/ the opinion that it's a travesty of justice and then you can tell them that according to your rules they can't have that opinion because they weren't born when the rape occured or because they haven't picketted enough yet this year to warrant a sya on the matter.

Which leads me to the fact that since you have such a strong opinion that seems to be in the minority does that mean you've met you requisite amount of hours protesting for rapists and pedophiles ?

What did you just pick one of my posts to respond to at random? Get past the pretty font that I use and read what the hell Im saying.

The whole post of mine that you quoted was directed at the little pussy bitch, Dude!

I didnt threaten anyone. Dude! wished my kids would get raped, I said I wished I could meet him in person and have this very same conversation. I actually wish that about alot of people on this message board, mostly for different reasons.

Who the fuck disagrees with him being arrested?

Give your opinion. What do you care what I think?

My whole point is, for you to be outraged about this now is bullshit. It happens All The Time. Go out and make it your cause. I would respect your passion if you did something about the situation other than bitch about it on a message board about a comedy radio show.

[JimBeam]

Its a 31 year old story. The victim has said let it go. Men having sex with teenage girls has been going on a lot longer than cell phones; it happens all the time, probably in your town and at the very least in your state, within the last month Id be willing to bet.

So for you to get outraged about this is false outrage, because we in America worship celebrities and this guy is a celebrity and is on your TV and computer.

Ryan Seacrest is telling you its bad and you put down your big mac and are so fired up, what do you do? You come on a message board and bitch about what happened.


You dont fly to California to demonstrate or try to get legislation passsed or form neighborhood watches or invent an all new & improved chastity belt, no because its false outrage.

Furthermore, for you to be so outraged that you would wish my kids get raped, besides making you a classic internet pussy talking trash you would never do face to face, makes you a brainwashed tool and a creep.

I know it was directed at somebody else but you quoted my response in your reply.

Again there's nothing I have to do for the situation because as it stands he's been arrested and hopefully will be extraditd.

It's all going as I'd like it at this point so why would I make it my cause ?

If a story breaks that Mel Gibson, Harrison Ford, or anybody else has done the same thing recently I'd hope for the same punishment for them

I have nothing against this guy personally other than that he's a creepy pedophile who makes movies which I have no desire to watch.

[Crispy123]

I know it was directed at somebody else but you quoted my response in your reply.

Again there's nothing I have to do for the situation because as it stands he's been arrested and hopefully will be extraditd.

It's all going as I'd like it at this point so why would I make it my cause ?

If a story breaks that Mel Gibson, Harrison Ford, or anybody else has done the same thing recently I'd hope for the same punishment for them

I have nothing against this guy personally other than that he's a creepy pedophile who makes movies which I have no desire to watch.

Let me say sorry to you for the misunderstanding. All the shots I have made in this thread about being an internet pussy have been directed at the one person who said stupid shit about my kids.

I have never said the guy was in the right, shouldn't do his time or that he wasnt a pussy for running away instead of facing justice.

I actually believe he is a creep and should be punished. I think if people in America were more involved in local politics (Sherrifs, DA's, Judges, School Board officials) than they were in what happens 5000 miles away in LA (if you live on the East Coast like me) this world would be a better place.

[Doogie]

You all are still discussing this??

[PD]

Polanksi’s The Ghost To Be Finished and Released With Or Without Him (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/10/01/polanksis-the-ghost-to-be-finished-and-released-with-or-without-him/)

[Contra]

Its a 31 year old story. The victim has said let it go. Men having sex with teenage girls has been going on a lot longer than cell phones; it happens all the time, probably in your town and at the very least in your state, within the last month Id be willing to bet.

So for you to get outraged about this is false outrage, because we in America worship celebrities and this guy is a celebrity and is on your TV and computer.

Ryan Seacrest is telling you its bad and you put down your big mac and are so fired up, what do you do? You come on a message board and bitch about what happened.


You dont fly to California to demonstrate or try to get legislation passsed or form neighborhood watches or invent an all new & improved chastity belt, no because its false outrage.

Furthermore, for you to be so outraged that you would wish my kids get raped, besides making you a classic internet pussy talking trash you would never do face to face, makes you a brainwashed tool and a creep.

How do you feel about 9/11? Did it anger you in any way? If you are going to respond, please include a yes or no.

[Crispy123]

How do you feel about 9/11? Did it anger you in any way? If you are going to respond, please include a yes or no.



What does that have to do with this?

[Serpico1103]

I was disgusted by Polanski until I saw the documentary that ESD referred to.

I still think Polanski needs to be punished. But, now I understand why he ran. I was under the impression that he fled from justice. But, it seems he was fleeing from injustice.

He should be punished. But, I don't view him as much of a monster as before.
Even the prosecutor that lead the case felt Polanski got screwed.

[Contra]

What does that have to do with this?


You don't follow instructions very well do you? When you answer I'll tell you what the tie in is.
So, were you angered by 9/11?

[Crispy123]

You don't follow instructions very well do you?

No i dont. Do you suck dick?

[Dude!]

You don't follow instructions very well do you? When you answer I'll tell you what the tie in is.
So, were you angered by 9/11?

i like the cut of your jibe
and your jib too

[Contra]

No i dont. Do you suck dick?

No.
See that? I answered the question.

[realmenhatelife]

Do you guys realize how crazy black people must think we are?

[JimBeam]

I was disgusted by Polanski until I saw the documentary that ESD referred to.

I still think Polanski needs to be punished. But, now I understand why he ran. I was under the impression that he fled from justice. But, it seems he was fleeing from injustice.

He should be punished. But, I don't view him as much of a monster as before.
Even the prosecutor that lead the case felt Polanski got screwed.

But who said he got screwed ?

Because the judge dediced to go back on a deal that maybe he didn't think was strong enough ?

Seems like it might not have been SOP but I haven't read that what he did was illegal.

Injustice ??

Are you kidding me ?

He pleads to 1 of 6 accounts and that's an injustice ?

An injustice is that he wasn't convicted on all 6 accounts.

[Crispy123]

No.
See that? I answered the question.

Have you ever had your asshole eaten out by a Hollywood director?

See that? Im staying on topic.

[GregoryJoseph]

The issue isn't whether or not Polanski's crime was heinous or not. It was.

Any fool can understand that getting a 13 year old child drunk and then feeding her pills and then anally raping her is wrong.

I hope.

The issue is that he skipped out of his trial.

Left the country.

Became a FUGITIVE.

It's really a cut and dry case.

[Serpico1103]

But who said he got screwed ?
Because the judge dediced to go back on a deal that maybe he didn't think was strong enough ?
Seems like it might not have been SOP but I haven't read that what he did was illegal.
Injustice ??
Are you kidding me ?
He pleads to 1 of 6 accounts and that's an injustice ?
An injustice is that he wasn't convicted on all 6 accounts.

I believe it is an open question whether the judge and/or prosecutor acted illegally in changing the terms of his plea agreement.
Of course, he deserves to be punished for his crime. But, the judge and prosecutor must act within the bounds of their office.
I am not saying "poor Roman", I am just saying that I don't judge his fleeing as harshly. His rape horrendous. His flight- maybe understandable.

The issue isn't whether or not Polanski's crime was heinous or not. It was.
Any fool can understand that getting a 13 year old child drunk and then feeding her pills and then anally raping her is wrong.
I hope.
The issue is that he skipped out of his trial.
Left the country.
Became a FUGITIVE.
It's really a cut and dry case.

His flight was improper. He should have fought his case within the system.

[HBox]

The issue isn't whether or not Polanski's crime was heinous or not. It was.

Any fool can understand that getting a 13 year old child drunk and then feeding her pills and then anally raping her is wrong.

I hope.

The issue is that he skipped out of his trial.

Left the country.

Became a FUGITIVE.

It's really a cut and dry case.

But he made THRILLER.

Oh wait.

But he made CHINATOWN.

[thepaulo]

Polanksi’s The Ghost To Be Finished and Released With Or Without Him (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/10/01/polanksis-the-ghost-to-be-finished-and-released-with-or-without-him/)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000591/

Would I be wrong to say this is a good time to look at his career?

[thepaulo]

But he made THRILLER.

Oh wait.

But he made CHINATOWN.

John Landis directed Thriller...He killed Jennifer Jason Leigh's father (Vic Morrow)(well I guess he got off for that crime.)

[HBox]

John Landis directed Thriller...He killed Jennifer Jason Leigh's father (Vic Morrow)(well I guess he got off for that crime.)

I was talking about the album Thriller. Comparing a very, very probably pedophile to an admitted pedophile.

[thepaulo]

I was talking about the album Thriller. Comparing a very, very probably pedophile to an admitted pedophile.

Sorry/ I tend to blame Landis for everything including Blues Brothers 2000

[PD]

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000591/

Would I be wrong to say this is a good time to look at his career?

no more wrong than anything else in this thread.
(not to mention its your forum)

[thepaulo]

no more wrong than anything else in this thread.
(not to mention its your forum)

It's all my fault.

[Contra]

Have you ever had your asshole eaten out by a Hollywood director?

See that? Im staying on topic.

Well if you would have answered a simple question (which you are obviously too scared to answer for some reason) you would have seen that I was staying on the topic you brought up, so you should take your own advice

[thepaulo]

Have you ever had your asshole eaten out by a Hollywood director?

See that? Im staying on topic.

I'm thinking Sofia Coppola

[KnoxHarrington]

This is interesting...Recently, a new documentary called "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired" raised some eyebrows about the case against Polanski, especially given the revelations of a prosecutor at the time who said that the DA's office was leaning on the judge to give Polanski a stiff sentence.

But now, he's taking it back.

David Wells told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on Thursday that he "buttered up" his role in the Polanski case for the documentary crew. He said he lied about trying to goad a judge to sentence Polanski to prison in 1978 for having sex with a 13-year-old girl.

Wells' comments in "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired" raised questions of judicial misconduct and spawned Polanski's most recent effort to get the case dismissed. But the legal challenge stalled when Polanski refused to return to the United States, where he faced certain arrest.

"I made these imprudent comments, just to liven it up a little," Wells said. "In retrospect, it was a bad thing to do, and I never knew this thing was going to be shown in the United States."

I remember this documentary, and I do think it was trying to make it look like Polanski was being railroaded. I'd need to see it again to get a feeling about whether or not this guy's testimony is the key to its argument or not, but I do remember him being a big part of it.

If the story that Polanski fled because he felt the DA was about to totally fuck him isn't true, it really does erode a lot of sympathy you could possibly have for him.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/01/polanski.prosecutor.admits.lie/index.html

[TripleSkeet]

and where were this CHILD's parents when she went with an adult stranger

According to the story the mother wasnt just ok with her daughter going with Polansky but insistent upon it even though the girl really didnt want to. Like I said, the mother deserves equal blame in this for such negligence.

[TheMojoPin]

as a parent I happen to think it is NOT irrelevant where the parents were, they have a legal obligation to protect their child as well. Polanski raping her was a terrible crime and he should serve time for it, yet parents are prosecuted these days if they don't properly supervise their children.

But that's a seperate issue which has nothing to do with the choices Polanski made. I agree it's beyond poor parenting that this girl was allowed to be in this situation, but it's ultimately irrelevant in judging Polanski's deicisons and actions. Regardless of the parents' failings, Polanski could have stopped all of it.

and for the record, Dude! has been claiming over and over that she was just an innocent child, a little girl. My comment was directed at him.

She was a little girl. It doesn't matter how many times she'd had sex or what drugs she had experienced: a child is still a child. Her character doesn't need to be judged. It wouldn't have mattered if she was walking with a neon sign saying "I love smack and to buttfuck" in regards to judging Polanski's actions as inexcusable.

[Tall_James]

It wouldn't have mattered if she was walking with a neon sign saying "I love smack and to buttfuck" in regards to judging Polanski's actions as inexcusable.

http://memegenerator.net/Instances/866/Asinine-America-I-LOVE-SMACK-AND-TO-BUTTFUCK.jpg

[KnoxHarrington]

http://memegenerator.net/Instances/866/Asinine-America-I-LOVE-SMACK-AND-TO-BUTTFUCK.jpg

Holy shit, this might be one of my favorite things on this site ever.

[TheMojoPin]

http://memegenerator.net/Instances/866/Asinine-America-I-LOVE-SMACK-AND-TO-BUTTFUCK.jpg

Is she eating some kind of Fudgsicle?

[Tall_James]

Frozen Quallude on a stick.

Covered in rich, creamy chocolate.

[TheMojoPin]

That crafty Polanski.

[~Katja~]

But that's a seperate issue which has nothing to do with the choices Polanski made. I agree it's beyond poor parenting that this girl was allowed to be in this situation, but it's ultimately irrelevant in judging Polanski's deicisons and actions. Regardless of the parents' failings, Polanski could have stopped all of it.



She was a little girl. It doesn't matter how many times she'd had sex or what drugs she had experienced: a child is still a child. Her character doesn't need to be judged. It wouldn't have mattered if she was walking with a neon sign saying "I love smack and to buttfuck" in regards to judging Polanski's actions as inexcusable.

she was by legal definition a child, by social definition also a teenager. And while I still don't excuse Polanski's actions and have stated so several times, I also have to say being that he is European he may have had a different understanding on legal age of consent just based on where he grew up and lived before his life in the US.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Age_of_Consent.png

[TheMojoPin]

she was by legal definition a child, by social definition also a teenager. And while I still don't excuse Polanski's actions and have stated so several times, I also have to say being that he is European he may have had a different understanding on legal age of consent just based on where he grew up and lived before his life in the US.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Age_of_Consent.png

This isn't just an issue of consent. It would be one thing if they had just had consensual sex and he was prosecuted for that (which, I think, would have been the right course of action), but he didn't. Regardless of your opinions of the age of consent, he still drugged and raped someone. The girl's age was just horrible capper to an awful, awful series of events.

And saying he "had a different understanding" of the law is a cop out given that he had lived in the US for nearly a decade. At that point you shouldn't be fuzzy on whether or not it's OK for a 44-year-old to fuck a 13-year-old.

And while I consider myself exceedingly tolerant, I think condoning an adult having sex with someone 13-years-old is barbaric. Europe is a pretty kickass place, but tolerating that at this point is inexcusable. It's the bohemian equivalent of the outdated puritanical beliefs regarding sex you still see often held onto over here.

[Willmore]

she was by legal definition a child, by social definition also a teenager. And while I still don't excuse Polanski's actions and have stated so several times, I also have to say being that he is European he may have had a different understanding on legal age of consent just based on where he grew up and lived before his life in the US.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Age_of_Consent.png

12 years old in Mexico?

Spring Break !!!

[thepaulo]

she was by legal definition a child, by social definition also a teenager. And while I still don't excuse Polanski's actions and have stated so several times, I also have to say being that he is European he may have had a different understanding on legal age of consent just based on where he grew up and lived before his life in the US.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Age_of_Consent.png

I've never seen this. Interesting. looks like 20 US states have age oif consent at 16.

[TjM]

:laugh:

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[A.J.]

:laugh:

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Brilliance!

[A.J.]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Age_of_Consent.png

Please don't let this be an indication as to why I spend so much time in the Middle East.

[~Katja~]

Please don't let this be an indication as to why I spend so much time in the Middle East.
the way it shows you still have to be married there to have intercourse at any age.
I was surprised by Tunesia's age of consent.

[JimBeam]

... it really does erode a lot of sympathy you could possibly have for him.

Is there really any of this ?

Even if they find the judge to have been as crooked as he can be it would in no way even out or dismiss what this guy did to the girl.

He shouldn't even have been allowed to plea bargain.

I also have to say being that he is European he may have had a different understanding on legal age of consent just based on where he grew up and lived before his life in the US.

So now we should allow that to be an excuse/defense anytime somebody from another country commits a crime in the US ?

- Hey you tried to blow up a building.
- What you're from Belfast/Tel Aviv/Etc ... and that happens all the time ?
- Oh, OK, our bad. You're free to go.

[~Katja~]

So now we should allow that to be an excuse/defense anytime somebody from another country commits a crime in the US ?

- Hey you tried to blow up a building.
- What you're from Belfast/Tel Aviv/Etc ... and that happens all the time ?
- Oh, OK, our bad. You're free to go.

no, as I said I don't defend his actions nor think he should go unpunished.
I am just taking a look at the other side of the picture (devils advocate if you will), which is that not only did he grow up and live under different social circumstances and when he did move to the US he lived in Hollywood amongst celebrities and a life of drugs and alcohol. Doesn't make his crime less of a crime, but it somewhat explains his living in oblivion to laws and regulations when the lifestyle surrounding him was common ground for men having relationships or sex with younger women/ girls and Hollywood wannabes...
As he stated in his own documentaries, at the time he did not even see it as a crime since no one was hurt in his mind and it was happening all the time around him.
Over the years he has admitted how wrong it was.

He was one of the few caught and prosecuted, there were many more cases never brought to court... just look at the Phillips/ Jagger story... young girls taking drugs and acting sexual were not uncommon.
Throw in the mix that the men usually were heavily under the influence of drugs and alcohol as well. I highly doubt that too many legal activities were happening during these times in those circles.

[foodcourtdruide]

no, as I said I don't defend his actions nor think he should go unpunished.
I am just taking a look at the other side of the picture (devils advocate if you will), which is that not only did he grow up and live under different social circumstances and when he did move to the US he lived in Hollywood amongst celebrities and a life of drugs and alcohol. Doesn't make his crime less of a crime, but it somewhat explains his living in oblivion to laws and regulations when the lifestyle surrounding him was common ground for men having relationships or sex with younger women/ girls and Hollywood wannabes...
As he stated in his own documentaries, at the time he did not even see it as a crime since no one was hurt in his mind and it was happening all the time around him.
Over the years he has admitted how wrong it was.

He was one of the few caught and prosecuted, there were many more cases never brought to court... just look at the Phillips/ Jagger story... young girls taking drugs and acting sexual were not uncommon.
Throw in the mix that the men usually were heavily under the influence of drugs and alcohol as well. I highly doubt that too many legal activities were happening during these times in those circles.

I'm sure there are reasonable explainations for most crimes that happen. Unfortunately, people rarely acknowledge them unless it's a situation with someone famous/beloved like Polanski.

[thepaulo]

some of us have tried to understand this fully and not simplify it.
Most of us can't put ourselves in his shoes or even want to.
He has this situation of temptation and subcumbs.
Most of us don't have to worry about being in that situation.
It was his Waterloo and he was defeated.
or maybe he thought it was commonplace to use drugs for sex.
Clearly being a short man, he had something of a Napoleon complex.
He wanted someone to dominate and conquer,
but it was just a trap and led to his downfall.

[Anthony Sodomy]

I understand Polanski completely.

[DarkHippie]

I hate myself for having invested so much time into thinking about this, one way or another

[thepaulo]

I hate myself for having invested so much time into thinking about this, one way or another

It might have been better if you worked on a cure for cancer.

[thepaulo]

The Swiss are thinking of releasing him.
Lots of articles on his complex artisitic legacy,
but Cokie Roberts just wants him taken out back and shot.
http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/10/05/cokie-roberts-gets-medieval-on-roman-polanski-take-him-out-back-and-shoot-him/

[vjr97]

i cant believe how the hollywood stars would defend this piece of shit

[thepaulo]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iRnW_PP9RtYpGgoc5KZiwY84hjrQD9B5K00G0

The Swiss didn't let him go.

[KnoxHarrington]

This is interesting...There's quite a bit of controversy over a book by the French Minister of Culture, Frederic Mitterrand, in which he discusses paying to have sex with "boys" in Thailand. For his part, Mitterand denies that he meant boys, and he was talking about guys around his age, but given Thailand's notorious reputation for sex tourism, some aren't buying it.

How does this relate back to Polanski? Mitterand has been one of his strongest defenders, and one of the people arguing most forcefully for his release.

Mitterrand's book has sparked fresh controversy in the wake of his recent defense of filmmaker Roman Polanski, who was jailed last month in Switzerland on a 31-year-old arrest warrant. Polanski had fled the United States for his native France in 1977 after pleading guilty to having sex with a 13-year-old girl.

The culture minister told TF1's Ferrari that he was "too emotional" when he denounced the filmmaker's arrest in Switzerland as "horrifying."

"To see him thrown to the lions for an old story that really has no meaning, and to see him alone, imprisoned, when he was going to attend a ceremony where he was to be honored, that is to say, he was trapped, it's absolutely horrifying," he said October 4, according to Agence France Presse.


It's one of the things that makes it hard to defend Polanski -- do you want to be on the same side as some of his other defenders?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/10/08/france.minister.scandal/index.html

[TheMojoPin]

This is interesting...There's quite a bit of controversy over a book by the French Minister of Culture, Frederic Mitterrand, in which he discusses paying to have sex with "boys" in Thailand. For his part, Mitterand denies that he meant boys, and he was talking about guys around his age, but given Thailand's notorious reputation for sex tourism, some aren't buying it.

I recall witnessing/participating in quite a few beatings dished out to tourists on the prowl for kids to fuck when I lived over there.

Though they seemed to end up being German more often than not.

[Dude!]

I recall witnessing/participating in quite a few beatings dished out to tourists on the prowl for kids to fuck when I lived over there.

Though they seemed to end up being German more often than not.


Ich bin nicht ein Berliner

[HBox]

Ich bin nicht ein Berliner

You are a donut?

[JimBeam]

Did any of you see Whoopie " defending " him ?

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So her argument is if you murder 10 people in cold blood but somehow get charged with manslaughter that you're not a " murderer-murderer ".

[TheMojoPin]

Man, you are with the times.

Who gives a fuck what Whoopula thinks? Granted, she singlehandedly coached the Knicks to the most success they've seen in nearly a decade, but still.

[JimBeam]

I saw it posted the other day but forget to get it on here.

Regardless of how current it is it wasn't posted here so I thought I'd share.

And reagrdless of that it's Whoopie it just shows how insane somebody, that doesn't have " a dog in the fight ", would defend this guy for no reason.

[thepaulo]

An article that has zero sympathy for Polanski

http://www.californiachronicle.com/articles/yb/136483767


He will complete his next film. The Ghost. a poliyical thriller from jail.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8308298.stm

[JimBeam]

"Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion," Weinstein said recently. "We were the people who did the fundraising telethon for the victims of 9/11. We were there for the victims of Katrina and any world catastrophe."

Is this guy kidding me ?

Yeah but what about the police personal that you know actually tried to save lives after 9/11 and Katrina ?

I'm sure their moral compass for child moleting rapists is just about right.

[thepaulo]

Polanski'e lawyer says he's depressed.

http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/10/18/roman-polanski-removed-from-swiss-jail-for-medical-treatment/

[JimBeam]

Is there any update on why this extradition is taking so long ?

[thepaulo]

Whoopie Goldberg has stopped it.

[JimBeam]

Whoopie Goldberg has stopped it.

Damn her.

I knew she was getting too powerful.

That Jumpin' Jack Flash clout is finally paying off.

[JimBeam]

It's about time.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/10/23/roman.polanski.extradition/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Some interesting articles associated with this story :

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20309753,00.html

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20308543,00.html

[thepaulo]

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the victim filed a brief to dismiss the case.

[thepaulo]

life is good.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-tc-ft-romanpolanski-1204-120dec05,0,6636448.story

[EliSnow]

Apparently, Roman Polanski is a very big villain in Larry King's mind, to the point where he got him confused with Charles Manson, in an interview with Sharon Tate's sister. (http://gawker.com/5442858/larry-king-unclear-on-difference-between-roman-polanski-and-charles-manson)

[Misteriosa]

Apparently, Roman Polanski is a very big villain in Larry King's mind, to the point where he got him confused with Charles Manson, in an interview with Sharon Tate's sister. (http://gawker.com/5442858/larry-king-unclear-on-difference-between-roman-polanski-and-charles-manson)


now THAT was cringe tv. holy shit! now you have all the proof you need about how much fact checking they do on that show.

[EliSnow]

now THAT was cringe tv. holy shit! now you have all the proof you need about how much fact checking they do on that show.

Actually, I think that's proof of King's senility. Given his age and job, he should easily know that Roman Polanski was married to Sharon Tate, and that Manson's followers killed Sharon Tate and her unborn child.

He clearly figured out his mistake after the sister pointed it out.

EDIT: King has also interviewed at least one of Manson's followers about the murder as seen by vidoes on YouTube.

[thepaulo]

Here is part of King's 2009 interview about the Manson murders....It's interesting to watch King fall apart...very human display.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ydoJZl1x0A

he was more or less lucid here by King standards

[thepaulo]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/15/polanski/?hpt=Sbin

the DA calls Polanski a Child Rapist...ouch....them's fighting words. pardner

[TjM]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/15/polanski/?hpt=Sbin

the DA calls Polanski a Child Rapist...ouch....them's fighting words. pardner

He is though

[thepaulo]

Polamski has been hard at work.
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3376022553/

[thepaulo]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139328/

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10012063-ghost_writer/

While Roman Polanski licks his wounds in his cushy home arrest chalet, he can at least celebrate that what is probably his last movie is a very good one.

[dereckfishboy]

I don't care what Roman did, Kim Cattrall is dead to me.....

[thepaulo]

I don't care what Roman did, Kim Cattrall is dead to me.....

But you'd still fuck her, right?

[Furtherman]

Four years after he fled the United States in 1978 after pleading guilty to unlawful sex with a minor, Roman Polanski "forced himself" on another woman, then 16, in his Paris apartment, the woman alleged Friday. Charlotte Lewis of London, who appeared in Polanski's 1986 film Pirates, made the allegation in a press conference held at her attorney Gloria Allred's Los Angeles office. Allred described Polanski's alleged behavior as "sexually predatory conduct."

"[Polanski] sexually abused me in the worst possible way when I was just 16," said Lewis, who remained composed while reading a prepared statement. "He knew [how old I was] when he met me and forced himself upon me in his apartment in Paris. He took advantage of me and I have lived with the effects of his behavior ever since it occurred. I've traveled to the U.S. at my own expense to make sure that justice is finally done and that Mr. Polanski gets what he deserves. All I want is justice."

Took ya long enough.

[StanUpshaw]

http://i.imgur.com/uCPMg.jpg

That at 16? Can you fucking blame him?

[thepaulo]

better pic of the second victim

http://backseatcuddler.com/2010/05/14/roman-polanski-new-victim-revealed-photos/

[thepaulo]

Polanski's defender...Woody Allen

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hfg1xcR8j9LKx9PjqX1aa5w-QaiQD9FO3IQ02

[RoseBlood]

Gloria Allred and Wood Allen in each of their corners... :dry: :dry:

[thepaulo]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38201135

Hopefully this case will be resolved soon, so this man can get back to work.
To kill two birds with one stone I suggest a joint project between Roman Polanski and Mel Gibson.

[JimBeam]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38201135

Hopefully this case will be resolved soon, so this man can get back to work.
To kill two birds with one stone I suggest a joint project between Roman Polanski and Mel Gibson.

Are you saying that from a perspective that you feel like this is inconvenient for him ?

Hopefully our nutelss government will do whatever it can to piss in anything the Swiss are doing.

As far as the previously posted article about Woody Allen ( which is unavailable ) don't pedophile's usually stick together ?

[Willmore]

Well, I guess this proves one thing. If you fuck little girls, you can go live in France & Switzerland.

[Furtherman]

don't pedophile's usually stick together ?

Like the pages of Boy's Life.

[JimBeam]

Like the pages of Boy's Life.

Now that's f-ing funny.

I actaully laughed out loud on that one.

[thepaulo]

Are you saying that from a perspective that you feel like this is inconvenient for him ?

Hopefully our nutelss government will do whatever it can to piss in anything the Swiss are doing.

As far as the previously posted article about Woody Allen ( which is unavailable ) don't pedophile's usually stick together ?

truthfully...I have two different opinions and they center on the two sides of Polanski...
one is a demented idiot who should be strung up by his nuts.....
the other is a brilliant and sensitive artist whose latest film is just out on DVD and is easily one of the very best films of the year...That Polanski should be nurtured and cherished....
Is there anyway we could chop him in two so I could nurture one half and torture the other?

[StanUpshaw]

Ghost Writer was fucking awful. Well-directed, but the plot was amazingly stupid.

[thepaulo]

Ghost Writer was fucking awful. Well-directed, but the plot was amazingly stupid.

I'd be glad to argue this.

[thepaulo]

Ghost Writer was fucking awful. Well-directed, but the plot was amazingly stupid.

We agree on the well directed part so we'll start from there.

[StanUpshaw]

The whole conspiracy trope is fucking played out, so if you're going to do it, give us something good. Not the "my wife who I don't even like anymore is really a CIA agent, and whose role as an international supermole has been so insignificant that it hasn't made a blip on the radar, yet the key to blowing the whole thing out of the water was a Google search away" thing. That sort of thing makes for an amazingly stupid plot.

[thepaulo]

The whole conspiracy trope is fucking played out, so if you're going to do it, give us something good. Not the "my wife who I don't even like anymore is really a CIA agent, and whose role as an international supermole has been so insignificant that it hasn't made a blip on the radar, yet the key to blowing the whole thing out of the water was a Google search away" thing. That sort of thing makes for an amazingly stupid plot.

first, spoiler tags would be nice.

[thepaulo]

He's Back

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/risky-business/sony-pictures-classics-release-roman-178633

[A.J.]

Oh, I was hoping he fucked another underage girl.

[realmenhatelife]

I haven't read anything about that play that doesn't make it sound exactly like Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?

[thepaulo]

I haven't read anything about that play that doesn't make it sound exactly like Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?

I think Galdofini was doing it recently.

[realmenhatelife]

I think Galdofini was doing it recently.

Ok, you got me, thats one difference.

[thepaulo]

Ok, you got me, thats one difference.

I'm just saying.

[CountryBob]

Did it fuck the chick up all of these years? If she's cool - I'm cool with it now.

[thepaulo]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/carnage-venice-film-review-230266

The movie could be very good but I'm still on the fence about Polanski.
Horrendous creep or sensitive artist?

[thepaulo]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/8718776/Polanksi-No-to-equality-yes-to-skimpy-dresses

I know many people won't be satisfied until he is locked away or dies horribly.
On top of that, he just made a film that explores his kinky side.

[keithy_19]

"I think women can really be connected with this girl because it's a fantasy of many women to do prostitution," he said.


Is it at all like my wishes the hot girls I went to high school with would do porn?

[thepaulo]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/roman-polanski-rape-victim-unveils-591015

This will add fuel to the fire.