View Full Version : Rush Limbaugh NFL Owner?
WRESTLINGFAN
10-10-2009, 08:17 AM
It might happen. Limbaugh might be an owner of the Rams, but many black players say they wont play for a team owned by him. Last night on the Ed Schultz show on MSNBC he had Steven A. Smith on and he basically said that if the moneys there and the Rams are willing to pay more, the issue of Rush owning the team, money will be the driving factor
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2009/10/09/2009-10-09_black_nfl_players_crush_prospect_of_playing_for _a_rush_limbaughowned_st_louis_ra.html
tanless1
10-10-2009, 08:42 AM
Good for him, livin the dream. I never bought in to the espn bullshit try to make somthing out of nothing.
underdog
10-10-2009, 08:44 AM
Are Rush's politics any different than any other owner's politics? They're all filthy, filthy rich white guys.
instrument
10-10-2009, 08:58 AM
The fact that rush is in the position to be a partial owner just bothers the hell out of me.
If he's got the cash, then good for him.
KnoxHarrington
10-10-2009, 09:03 AM
I'll be shocked if any athlete actually turns down a contract from the Rams because Limbaugh is the owner.
WRESTLINGFAN
10-10-2009, 09:15 AM
Are Rush's politics any different than any other owner's politics? They're all filthy, filthy rich white guys.
Heres one that wasnt a white guy but she was filthy rich
http://reds.enquirer.com/img/photos/1998/10/102598schottsi_150x189.jpg
instrument
10-10-2009, 09:51 AM
If he's got the cash, then good for him.
it's just sad that the tom leykis of politics can be in the position he is.
pennington
10-10-2009, 11:55 AM
Limbaugh earns his money legitimately. What do I care what any of them think about Obama.
And if any of those big talkers choose not to play because he's an investor in the team, let them walk. There are hundreds of people that will gladly take their place.
led37zep
10-10-2009, 12:36 PM
it's just sad that the tom leykis of politics can be in the position he is.
That's the worst thing you can say about a person.
Its a non issue if Rush is or isn't an owner. It doesn't matter or change much of anything.
TheMojoPin
10-10-2009, 03:08 PM
This is a non-issue because there's zero chance he's approved by the NFL or the other owners to buy the team.
GregoryJoseph
10-10-2009, 03:10 PM
I hope he renames them the St. Louis Conservatives.
disneyspy
10-10-2009, 03:11 PM
I hope he renames them the St. Louis Conservatives.
ditto heads
Ocho Cinco
10-10-2009, 05:18 PM
i'd don't really care one way or the other about the rams so at least this would give me a good reason to hate them
WRESTLINGFAN
10-10-2009, 05:34 PM
ditto heads
St Louis Crackers
hanso
10-10-2009, 07:35 PM
No one won't play hurt.
As there are oxycontin dispensers for all players.
If Rush dont empty them first.
boosterp
10-10-2009, 08:20 PM
I hope he renames them the St. Louis Conservatives.
Nah, we'll just call them Entitled :wink:
Suspect Chin
10-10-2009, 10:49 PM
NBC lets his left wing equivalent host Football Night in America, so why not let Rush Limbaugh buy a football team?
I think the other owners will approve it. As others have said, most of them are rich white conservatives as well.
tanless1
10-10-2009, 11:11 PM
When did the rams leave l.a. ? This is news to me!
TheMojoPin
10-11-2009, 06:07 AM
NBC lets his left wing equivalent host Football Night in America, so why not let Rush Limbaugh buy a football team?
I think the other owners will approve it. As others have said, most of them are rich white conservatives as well.
It's not as matter of politics: it's a matter of him not shutting up. The owners aren't going to approve someone that keeps thrusting themselves on the public scene with controversial statements over major issues beyond sports that get huge groups of people pissed off. There's zero chance this gets done for that reason.
Sinestro
10-11-2009, 06:09 AM
If Rush does buy the team, can you imagine him getting rid of all the players he doesn't like or fit his philosophy like in the movie "The Fish that saved Pittsburgh" where the owner got rid of players who didn't have the astrology sign of Pisces.
Sinestro
10-11-2009, 06:12 AM
When did the rams leave l.a. ? This is news to me!
They didn't. They're the St. Louis Rams of Los Angeles
WRESTLINGFAN
10-11-2009, 07:30 AM
If Rush does buy the team, can you imagine him getting rid of all the players he doesn't like or fit his philosophy like in the movie "The Fish that saved Pittsburgh" where the owner got rid of players who didn't have the astrology sign of Pisces.
If they are winning, Limbaugh wont care if they are conservatives or liberals
brettmojo
10-11-2009, 07:32 AM
If they are winning, Limbaugh wont care if they are conservatives or liberals
As long as the quarterback is white.
hanso
10-11-2009, 07:43 AM
NBC lets his left wing equivalent host Football Night in America, so why not let Rush Limbaugh buy a football team?
I think the other owners will approve it. As others have said, most of them are rich white conservatives as well.
Being a talking head vs owning a team are far different things.
Rush Limbaugh could not even be PC on MNF.
Do you think there is a snowballs chance in hell he can do this behind the scenes?
It's not as matter of politics: it's a matter of him not shutting up. The owners aren't going to approve someone that keeps thrusting themselves on the public scene with controversial statements over major issues beyond sports that get huge groups of people pissed off. There's zero chance this gets done for that reason.
This is a great point. NFL owners don't need the controversy.
hanso
10-11-2009, 08:17 AM
I think Shannon Sharpe just did what Rush did on MNF.
On Nfl Today Cbs.
"If Romo where a black QB he would be average at best".
It should be fine for him however if this is how I heard it.
I caught the tail end.
Did anyone else just hear this?
It'll happen over Al Davis' already dead body.
Suspect Chin
10-11-2009, 03:30 PM
It's not as matter of politics: it's a matter of him not shutting up. The owners aren't going to approve someone that keeps thrusting themselves on the public scene with controversial statements over major issues beyond sports that get huge groups of people pissed off. There's zero chance this gets done for that reason.
Mark Cuban?
TheMojoPin
10-11-2009, 03:33 PM
Mark Cuban?
Not nearly the same thing.
The owners aren't going to approve someone that keeps thrusting themselves on the public scene with controversial statements over major issues beyond sports that get huge groups of people pissed off.
The bolded part is what is the critical difference. Most of Cuban's bullshit revolves around his comments and actions regarding his team (think Steinbrenner). If he's not talking about basketball or buying another team, people generally don't give a fuck. It's Limbaugh's role as a lightning rod for controversy OUTSIDE of sports that will keep him from ever getting approval. That's too much drama for the NFL and the other owners to tolerate or want.
badmonkey
10-11-2009, 03:57 PM
You don't read his blog (http://blogmaverick.com/) I guess or forgot about the Redacted (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/ent/stories/DN-cuban_1114gl.ART0.State.Edition2.cc6bde.html) movie.
hanso
10-11-2009, 04:05 PM
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TheMojoPin
10-11-2009, 04:05 PM
You don't read his blog (http://blogmaverick.com/) I guess or forgot about the Redacted (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/ent/stories/DN-cuban_1114gl.ART0.State.Edition2.cc6bde.html) movie.
I reiterate again: nobody generally gives a fuck. I mean, whoopty-shit, he has a blog. Everyone has a blog. Mark Cuban's blog isn't a regular source of discussion, debate and argument. And man, he produced one movie that completely tanked and got mixed reviews at best. Somebody stop the cultural flashpoint that is Mark Cuban.
Besides, look at the discussion when Cuban was potentially going to buy the Cubs: most people thought it would be a real longshot due to his personality, and he's an iota the controversial public figure that Rush is on almost a daily basis. Just because he ended up with the Mavericks doesn't mean it's fair game for loudmouth, controversial jackasses to buy sports teams, especially since his jackassery wasn't that apparent until after he bought them.
Rush is basically already Marge Schott and Cuban rolled into one and multiplied by a billion BEFORE he's bought the team. He's simply not getting approval based on his reputation and recognition.
Zorro
10-11-2009, 04:10 PM
It's not as matter of politics: it's a matter of him not shutting up. The owners aren't going to approve someone that keeps thrusting themselves on the public scene with controversial statements over major issues beyond sports that get huge groups of people pissed off. There's zero chance this gets done for that reason.
Oh please... The owners couldn't give a rats ass about anything but money.
TheMojoPin
10-11-2009, 04:15 PM
Oh please... The owners couldn't give a rats ass about anything but money.
That's not true at all. Buying a sports team these days is very much a "political" process in that the person typically has to fly under the radar and not be perceived as a threat to the other owners in terms of disruptions or controversy. People like Cuban can definitely get in the door and then bowl things over with money and then turn out to be douchebags once they have a team, but again, this Rush. He's not even going to get to sniff the door. The owners and the League itself aren't going to seriously consider this for a second. He's too controversial.
badmonkey
10-11-2009, 04:37 PM
The only owners that I can remember their names are the ones that are heavy handed on the coaches and ruin their teams. You know.. guys like Dan Snyder here in DC. If he wasn't such a crappy owner, I probably wouldn't even know his name. I think most people don't give a shit about who owns the team as long as they aren't creating instability in the team's lineup through shitty management or wrecking the team with crappy administrative decisions.
STC-Dub
10-11-2009, 04:46 PM
How many minority owners do the Dolphins have now? Players can say they won't play for the Rams, but if Rush got a piece of the tea they would, and a minority owner really does not matter. If he has any stocks then he is a minority owner of those companies too if you want to get technically. This is just another case of people looking to make something into a bigger deal than it is. So, a really rich guy wants to own part of a team and some less rich guys don't like that guy. It does not impact my life.
TheMojoPin
10-11-2009, 05:37 PM
Oh, he's just going to be a minority owner? Well, then go nuts, Rush. I thought the talk was that he was going to be the primary buyer of the team.
boosterp
10-11-2009, 05:39 PM
Is Rush really relevant anyway? He caused a rift in the Republican party and hailed Palin, he should automatically be ignored.
hanso
10-11-2009, 05:51 PM
Oh, he's just going to be a minority owner? Well, then go nuts, Rush. I thought the talk was that he was going to be the primary buyer of the team.
So did I
As for all the minority owners of the Dolphins (celebs).
I take that to be nothing more than a PR stunt.
Fez4PrezN2008
10-11-2009, 05:59 PM
Rush gets off on attention and there is zero chance he would be able to keep his yap shut about team issues on his stupid talk show. He would be be giving away way too many team details constantly. He'd probably yap about the team for 1/4 or 1/2 his show. That would no doubt give the other teams a little edge. There is no way he'd be able to play ANYTHING about the team close to his vest.
hanso
10-11-2009, 06:15 PM
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Suspect Chin
10-12-2009, 09:29 AM
Rush gets off on attention and there is zero chance he would be able to keep his yap shut about team issues on his stupid talk show. He would be be giving away way too many team details constantly. He'd probably yap about the team for 1/4 or 1/2 his show. That would no doubt give the other teams a little edge. There is no way he'd be able to play ANYTHING about the team close to his vest.
I doubt he would do anything to directly endanger his investment. He may be an idiot politically, but he didn't get as rich as he is by ruining his own investments.
On a side note, what a terrible investment this would be. He is basically throwing in tons of money to become a minority owner of a losing team. At least Mark Cuban became the sole owner of the Mavericks and therefore took the rebuilding process squarely on his own back. Rush will barely have a say in how his investment is spent. I can think of many far less risky investments he could get into.
topless_mike
10-12-2009, 10:07 AM
wasnt jay-z trying to become an owner of a team? i want to say basketball... i cant remember. wouldnt he be just as controversial as rush?
anyways, as bloated as i think rush's head is, who cares? he'll shovel a ton of money into this team, and in return, make even more. nothing changes except who some of the profits go to.
seriously, isnt it time that we just get over ourselves?
TheMojoPin
10-12-2009, 10:17 AM
What's controversial about Jay-Z at this point? He puts out an album every year or two and then basically vanishes, making money off of his savvy business deals and banging Beyonce in his free time.
What does any of this have to do with "getting over ourselves?"
Serpico1103
10-12-2009, 10:34 AM
Oh please... The owners couldn't give a rats ass about anything but money.
Exactly. They don't care what your political opinion is, as long as it doesn't hurt their investment.
It is not about whether Rush is conservative or liberal. It is a question of whether his opinions will create a stir that will hurt the NFL financially.
I doubt it, since people have very short memories, but corporations are always responding to boycotts.
The only owners that I can remember their names are the ones that are heavy handed on the coaches and ruin their teams. You know.. guys like Dan Snyder here in DC. If he wasn't such a crappy owner, I probably wouldn't even know his name. I think most people don't give a shit about who owns the team as long as they aren't creating instability in the team's lineup through shitty management or wrecking the team with crappy administrative decisions.
Most owners were not famous before they bought a team. Out of all the professional sports team owners, how many were household names before they bought a team?
How many had a highly rated national radio talk show that could cause an unwanted distraction for the league?
wasnt jay-z trying to become an owner of a team? i want to say basketball... i cant remember. wouldnt he be just as controversial as rush?
anyways, as bloated as i think rush's head is, who cares? he'll shovel a ton of money into this team, and in return, make even more. nothing changes except who some of the profits go to.
seriously, isnt it time that we just get over ourselves?
Jay Z owns about 1-2% of the Nets I believe.
topless_mike
10-12-2009, 10:34 AM
What does any of this have to do with "getting over ourselves?"
he's got the means (money)
he's not going to take the team and bankrupt them.
so why not just let him become owner? if the current owner approves of it, whats the big deal?
TheMojoPin
10-12-2009, 10:37 AM
he's got the means (money)
he's not going to take the team and bankrupt them.
so why not just let him become owner? if the current owner approves of it, whats the big deal?
That's just the nature of buying major sports teams. The other owners and the league has to approve the sale.
Suspect Chin
10-12-2009, 04:54 PM
I think the "Owners' Approval" thing is only super stringent in the MLB. Basketball teams are up for whoever has the money and NFL is somewhere in between.
If Rush really wants to buy a portion of the Rams, he will get approved.
topless_mike
10-13-2009, 11:41 AM
This is a great point. NFL owners don't need the controversy.
yes. the players themselves shit on the nfl's image, we dont need the owners doing it now, too.
Ocho Cinco
10-13-2009, 01:36 PM
mark cuban and jay z do not compare to Rush, Cuban's a nutty billionaire and Jay z is a rapper/entrepanour (no chance on that word), rush spends hours a day pushing his insane view of politics on millions of people. cuban and jay z can and have been controversial, rush is nothing but controversy.
i'm surprised this racist ahole doesn't buy a hockey team, that would make a lot more sense for a person who hates minorities.
SonOfSmeagol
10-13-2009, 03:46 PM
Major league sports in this country is really hard to pin down. I want to say that it's the epitome of big business run amok, but I'm not sure that's even accurate. You’re looking at like 100-200 people making billions of dollars from the backs of millions (maybe billions?) of consumers. Not including hugely paid athletes who in some situations (some, not all, or even most) are wacky head cases who need serious handling to keep the whole thing afloat. Rest assured that the owners, across all sports, will risk little to kill the golden goose. Also, it actually turns out to be one of the most apolitical aspects of our society.
What do we actually get out of it all, for all the huge money spent? It does seem to satisfy some primal need in people. I wonder what would happen if we didn’t have these “proxy wars/battles” between cities/states in the form of gladiatorial high-end organized sports. Would we erupt into actual hot wars?
In summary, then: Go Skins! Cowboys SUCK!
keithy_19
10-14-2009, 04:25 PM
mark cuban and jay z do not compare to Rush, Cuban's a nutty billionaire and Jay z is a rapper/entrepanour (no chance on that word), rush spends hours a day pushing his insane view of politics on millions of people. cuban and jay z can and have been controversial, rush is nothing but controversy.
i'm surprised this racist ahole doesn't buy a hockey team, that would make a lot more sense for a person who hates minorities.
I would love to not listen, but the radio is across the room...can't bear to actually move and turn it off.
And what did he say that was racist? I've seen the comments, but I'm having some trouble finding sources that are credible. If anyone can find them, it would be appreciated. I may be looking in the wrong place.
And somewhere Kevin Weekes, Anson Carter, Mike Grier, Fred Brathwaite, George Laraoque, Donald Brashear, Jarome Iginlia, Kyle Okposo, Johnny Oduya, ect...are shedding a tear.
IMSlacker
10-14-2009, 04:51 PM
Checketts group drops Limbaugh from Rams bid (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10219272/Checketts-group-drops-Limbaugh-from-Rams-bid)
"This is not about the NFL, it's not about the St. Louis Rams, it's not about me," Limbaugh said. "This is about the ongoing effort by the left in this country, wherever you find them, in the media, the Democrat Party, or wherever, to destroy conservatism, to prevent the mainstreaming of anyone who is prominent as a conservative.
"Therefore, this is about the future of the United States of America and what kind of country we're going to have."
Limbaugh's bid ran into opposition from within the image-conscious NFL on Tuesday when Colts owner Jim Irsay said he would vote against the radio personality. Commissioner Roger Goodell said the commentator's "divisive" comments would not be tolerated from any NFL insider.
keithy_19
10-14-2009, 07:05 PM
Roger Goodell is married to Fox News anchor, Jane Skinner. I don't think he was plotting against Rush.
This is the key:
Limbaugh's bid ran into opposition from within the image-conscious NFL on Tuesday when Colts owner Jim Irsay said he would vote against the radio personality. Commissioner Roger Goodell said the commentator's "divisive" comments would not be tolerated from any NFL insider.
As for what Limbaugh said, that gasbag can claim whatever the fuck he wants, but face it...he was bad for business.
keithy_19
10-14-2009, 07:46 PM
As for what Limbaugh said, that gasbag can claim whatever the fuck he wants, but face it...he was bad for business.
I don't see people boycotting football over a minority-owner. I also don't see football players turning down a substantial contract because of a minority-owner.
topless_mike
10-14-2009, 08:01 PM
Limbaugh's bid ran into opposition from within the image-conscious NFL
with the nba fighting its players over dress code and gang signs, the mlb with the steriods, the nhl actually cancelling a season worth of play, you'd think the nfl could stand and be the shining star of pro sports in america. that is, until you employ:
plaxico burress
michael vick
pacman jones
donte stallworth
i'm sure the nfl is really image conscious. i'm calling bullshit on the nfl's defense of their decision. i'm also calling bullshit on rush's rant on why this was. of course this was political, and i would have believed him if he had just left it at that. but no.
as much as i support rush's desire to own a team, i feel that he's going to turn this into a circus.
keithy_19
10-14-2009, 08:17 PM
with the nba fighting its players over dress code and gang signs, the mlb with the steriods, the nhl actually cancelling a season worth of play, you'd think the nfl could stand and be the shining star of pro sports in america. that is, until you employ:
The NHL's strife had nothing to do with players behavior. The only players I can think of who would fall into that category is Danny Heatley, Sean Avery, and maybe Todd Bertuzi. Oh, and those few rascals from the Blackhawks.
topless_mike
10-14-2009, 08:21 PM
The NHL's strife had nothing to do with players behavior. The only players I can think of who would fall into that category is Danny Heatley, Sean Avery, and maybe Todd Bertuzi. Oh, and those few rascals from the Blackhawks.
the nhl and players union couldnt agree. the nhl, a multi-billion professional sports league, had to cancel an entire season over pennies (in comparison). if that's not embarrassing, then i dont know what is.
I don't see people boycotting football over a minority-owner. I also don't see football players turning down a substantial contract because of a minority-owner.
The NFL Owners obviously wanted nothing to do with the circus that Rush would naturally bring with him.
with the nba fighting its players over dress code and gang signs, the mlb with the steriods, the nhl actually cancelling a season worth of play, you'd think the nfl could stand and be the shining star of pro sports in america. that is, until you employ:
plaxico burress
michael vick
pacman jones
donte stallworth
i'm sure the nfl is really image conscious. i'm calling bullshit on the nfl's defense of their decision. i'm also calling bullshit on rush's rant on why this was. of course this was political, and i would have believed him if he had just left it at that. but no.
as much as i support rush's desire to own a team, i feel that he's going to turn this into a circus.
Of course he's going to turn this into a circus. That's his carnie act...
topless_mike
10-14-2009, 08:27 PM
you know what else i think is sad about this whole thing?
its all based on the presumption (which is probably acurate, too) that fatso would bring his circus once all this was said and done.
what if, however, he just had a vested stake in the team and never mentioned it?
does anything change at that point?
keithy_19
10-14-2009, 08:34 PM
the nhl and players union couldnt agree. the nhl, a multi-billion professional sports league, had to cancel an entire season over pennies (in comparison). if that's not embarrassing, then i dont know what is.
It wasn't a good thing. But with the other examples you laid out, it seemed like you were talking more about the conduct of players, rather than the Unions who represent them.
you know what else i think is sad about this whole thing?
its all based on the presumption (which is probably acurate, too) that fatso would bring his circus once all this was said and done.
what if, however, he just had a vested stake in the team and never mentioned it?
does anything change at that point?
I would presume that the group would have to disclose the full list of the ownership group to the NFL, upon which the NFL would reject the minority stake of Limbaugh based upon the circus act.
topless_mike
10-14-2009, 08:54 PM
in my mind, the nfl just set it self up for trouble down the road.
what if later on, a celebrity with a rap sheet decides he wants in? say snoop or eminem want to buy the raiders or detroit. they both have luggage. by default, the owners/league officials would have to deny them as well, correct?
the reason i bring this up is that i was reading something about how the latest trend in the hip hop culture is to invest in sports teams. unfortunately, some of the artists come with a history. i dont want this to turn into the usual race angle.
TheMojoPin
10-14-2009, 09:02 PM
in my mind, the nfl just set it self up for trouble down the road.
what if later on, a celebrity with a rap sheet decides he wants in? say snoop or eminem want to buy the raiders or detroit. they both have luggage. by default, the owners/league officials would have to deny them as well, correct?
the reason i bring this up is that i was reading something about how the latest trend in the hip hop culture is to invest in sports teams. unfortunately, some of the artists come with a history. i dont want this to turn into the usual race angle.
Again, it's not a "history" issue. It's an issue of what Rush says NOW basically every day. Along those lines, someone like Eminem would likely be turned down, though Snoop might not since he's become so "safe."
topless_mike
10-14-2009, 09:04 PM
though Snoop might not since he's become so "safe."
murder was the case that they gave me....
TheMojoPin
10-14-2009, 09:08 PM
murder was the case that they gave me....
Like 15 years ago. Now everyone acts like he's this lovable guy.
topless_mike
10-14-2009, 09:09 PM
Again, it's not a "history" issue. It's an issue of what Rush says NOW basically every day.
so now, what you can do in your life, what you can accomplish, what you can invest in is dependent on what your political beliefs are?
so sad.
from the article i just read...
Checketts said Limbaugh would have not had any say in the direction of the franchise "or in any decisions regarding personnel or operations."
imagine if your 401k told you "yeah, your money's no good here"
topless_mike
10-14-2009, 09:10 PM
Like 15 years ago. Now everyone acts like he's this lovable guy.
ask roman polanski how that's working out..
and, although snoop was acquitted, it is still a mark on his record.
topless_mike
10-14-2009, 09:11 PM
bed time
:bye:
TheMojoPin
10-14-2009, 09:14 PM
ask roman polanski how that's working out..
and, although snoop was acquitted, it is still a mark on his record.
So then they can deny Snoop if they want. It's still not the same thing as why Rush was denied.
TheMojoPin
10-14-2009, 09:16 PM
so now, what you can do in your life, what you can accomplish, what you can invest in is dependent on what your political beliefs are?
so sad.
It's not his politics. It's the equivalent of denying Howard Stern ownership if he tried to buy in. It's because he's a "shock jock" and he's out there being a loudmouth jackass 5 days a week.
hanso
10-15-2009, 03:44 PM
Rush should lay off the oxyC & not play Pink Floyd's 'Money' so much.
Then he wouldn't get these wild notions.
CurseoftheBambi
10-16-2009, 01:19 PM
he's out there being a loudmouth jackass 5 days a week.
actually 4 :):lol:
JimBeam
10-16-2009, 01:25 PM
The biggest irony I see in this whole thing is that he's being kept from buying into a team that employeed a guy after he killed a woman in a car " accident ".
So having a drunk driving, woman killing guy like Leonard Little represent your team and league is better than having a loud mouth controversial radio host represent it.
IMSlacker
10-16-2009, 01:58 PM
The biggest irony I see in this whole thing is that he's being kept from buying into a team that employeed a guy after he killed a woman in a car " accident ".
So having a drunk driving, woman killing guy like Leonard Little represent your team and league is better than having a loud mouth controversial radio host represent it.
Yeah, it's a good point.
I don't think the issue is so much what Rush has said in the past as what he might say in the future.
With Leonard Little or Mike Vick there's an initial uproar and it eventually dies down then everybody moves on.
With Rush, they would eventually get over the initial controversy, but then, every few months, He'd say something on his show that pisses off Rev. Al or Jesse Jackson or a women's group, so they'd have to go through the same thing over and over again.
hanso
10-16-2009, 03:57 PM
When this was still an item.
I caught the end of a news crawler.
It said Rush might sue ....
Missed the end. This was around the time Rev. Al was shooting his mouth off. And I was hoping Rush would sue Al.
TheMojoPin
10-16-2009, 04:00 PM
Yeah, it's a good point.
I don't think the issue is so much what Rush has said in the past as what he might say in the future.
With Leonard Little or Mike Vick there's an initial uproar and it eventually dies down then everybody moves on.
With Rush, they would eventually get over the initial controversy, but then, every few months, He'd say something on his show that pisses off Rev. Al or Jesse Jackson or a women's group, so they'd have to go through the same thing over and over again.
Right. People keep appraoching this with "well what about..." examples that aren't the same situation. It's not an issue of the NFL keeping out people with incidents in their past: it's their desire not to be involved with someone who is an international media figure who is drawing in controversy almost daily with his show.
SonOfSmeagol
10-16-2009, 04:58 PM
Once someone is IN major league sports like the NFL, and then end up creating some kind of controversy (or crime!), I think the owners/management almost feel compelled to give them another chance if they pay the price. They want to be seen as inclusive, and don’t want to be labeled elitist, haughty, or dare I say discriminatory or even racist for not giving someone another chance. It all comes down to “good business”.
That said, I’m not really into all the details but I think that they really shy away from INTRODUCING someone into the mix, with baggage. Such as a Rush or a Howard, or on the player side most probably many unknown guys (with race having NOTHING to do with it) that we never even hear about because they just don’t “fit”.
TheMojoPin
10-16-2009, 05:10 PM
That said, I’m not really into all the details but I think that they really shy away from INTRODUCING someone into the mix, with baggage. Such as a Rush or a Howard, or on the player side most probably many unknown guys (with race having NOTHING to do with it) that we never even hear about because they just don’t “fit”.
Exactly.
badmonkey
10-17-2009, 08:17 AM
The biggest irony I see in this whole thing is that he's being kept from buying into a team that employeed a guy after he killed a woman in a car " accident ".
So having a drunk driving, woman killing guy like Leonard Little represent your team and league is better than having a loud mouth controversial radio host represent it.
Why the hell is he wasting his time in the NFL when he could be a lifelong US Senator with the word "dynasty" following his name? Does he not have any family members with an interest in politics?
TheMojoPin
10-17-2009, 08:21 AM
2.3
The logical fallacies in this thread hurt my brain.
WRESTLINGFAN
10-17-2009, 01:57 PM
This is getting interesting Rush vs Al
http://www.lohud.com/article/20091017/NEWS05/910170363/Sharpton-threatens-to-sue-Rush-over-op-ed-remarks
hanso
10-17-2009, 06:04 PM
So Al wants to sue Rush.
I would say Rush has much deeper pockets.
Al might have just put his foot in his mouth.
WRESTLINGFAN
10-17-2009, 06:26 PM
So Al wants to sue Rush.
I would say Rush has much deeper pockets.
Al might have just put his foot in his mouth.
Who knows he might use Mark Levin another big time talker on the radio as his lawyer. Sharpton could finally be defeated
TheMojoPin
10-17-2009, 07:23 PM
The logical fallacies in this thread hurt my brain.
You're a logical fallacy.
You're a logical fallacy.
Keep it up, Strawman.
Dude!
10-17-2009, 07:35 PM
The logical fallacies in this thread hurt my brain.
"logical fallicies"...
interesting use of the adjective
i guess anything logical
hurts your brain
JimBeam
10-18-2009, 01:53 PM
OK so I can buy into the idea of keeping him out for things he might do in the future, as opposed to now, but isn't that implying that Vick, Stallworth and the like won't ever do anything wrong again ?
I also think that what Limbaugh said about McNabb could be considered true without being taken as racist.
He essentailly said that the league would like for McNabb to do well and I think that was the exact truth.
If McNabb did well, as a black QB, it would put aside many thoughts that black QB's couldn't be successful.
So in that sense the league would get a boost.
Why is it any different that the lauding they did over Smith and Dungy in the Super Bowl ?
All we heard was black coach this and black coach that.
It was all but praised that we'd finally get a Super Bowl champion team lead by a black coach.
Don't you think the league got a jolt from that ?
We also keep hearing how it's better for the NCAA and NFL if we get more black coaches.
Isn't that saying that both organizations have a vested interest in a black coach getting hired and being successful ?
To compare a potential owner of an NFL team to coaches or players is the epitome of a false comparison.
vjr97
10-18-2009, 02:04 PM
jay/z has said the word nigger more than rush ever has.he can own a team.there black athletes in the nfl that have beten women.they get tp play.rev.al writting a letter to the nfl?the same asshole who bought us tawany brawly? rev.al is full of shit
jay/z has said the word nigger more than rush ever has.he can own a team.there black athletes in the nfl that have beten women.they get tp play.rev.al writting a letter to the nfl?the same asshole who bought us tawany brawly? rev.al is full of shit
You really don't know what you are talking about, do you?
IMSlacker
10-18-2009, 02:08 PM
OK so I can buy into the idea of keeping him out for things he might do in the future, as opposed to now, but isn't that implying that Vick, Stallworth and the like won't ever do anything wrong again ?
If Vick, or Stallworth do something wrong again, the NFL can give them the boot. That's tougher to do to an owner.
JimBeam
10-18-2009, 02:11 PM
To compare a potential owner of an NFL team to coaches or players is the epitome of a false comparison.
I'm talking about what every broadcast jammed down our throat when Dungy won the Super Bowl.
First Black Coach.
And the NFL loved it, just as they'll love it when the 1st black QB leads his team to the Super Bowl and wins it.
Sorry Doug Williams, I don't think you count.
You think when that happens it'll just be about the team winning it or that a black QB made it happen ?
If the former is true than Limbaugh was right.
This whole premise is false.
This isn't "was Rush right about black QBs", this IS "NFL owners don't want the headaches of Rush in their club".
That's it. His money is good, but the very nature of how he made and continues to make that money isn't in their eyes.
JimBeam
10-18-2009, 02:19 PM
Oh I agree that the reason for him being shunned was based on a totality of things but my point is that I don't see his comments about McNabb to be as racist as they are made out to be.
Not only where they not racist they were completely on point.
CurseoftheBambi
10-19-2009, 04:52 AM
:wacko:
keithy_19
10-19-2009, 09:40 PM
You really don't know what you are talking about, do you?
This epo don't run!
Serpico1103
10-20-2009, 05:47 AM
I'm talking about what every broadcast jammed down our throat when Dungy won the Super Bowl.
First Black Coach.
And the NFL loved it, just as they'll love it when the 1st black QB leads his team to the Super Bowl and wins it.
Sorry Doug Williams, I don't think you count.
You think when that happens it'll just be about the team winning it or that a black QB made it happen ?
If the former is true than Limbaugh was right.
Why doesn't Doug Williams count?
Why doesn't Doug Williams count?
It would injure his off-basis point.
hanso
10-20-2009, 04:06 PM
Rush has till this Fri to say hes sorry to Rev Al.
Rev. Al says he will sue if time runs out.
Maybe he wants a car seat.
When He says Rush's name it sounds like.
Lumbar the car seat back support.
hanso
10-23-2009, 03:44 PM
Did Rush say sorry to Sharpton?
Will Rev Al get his lumbar car seat?
Tune in to the next exciting episode.
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