Haiti fundraisers...

[LordJezo]

Are all disasters like this Haiti thing? I don't remember ever seeing this kind of outpouring of support for anything before. Was it just that I wasn't paying any attention or this Haiti incident being used by everyone to a degree not normally seen? Haiti stuff is everywhere, even Magnolia's Bakery has a special edition Haiti support fundraiser cupcake. It's constant Haiti everywhere I go.

[KingGeno]

LordJezo = Extreme

[epo]

Please lock this thread for stupidity.

[El Mudo]

Are all disasters like this Haiti thing? I don't remember ever seeing this kind of outpouring of support for anything before. Was it just that I wasn't paying any attention or this Haiti incident being used by everyone to a degree not normally seen? Haiti stuff is everywhere, even Magnolia's Bakery has a special edition Haiti support fundraiser cupcake. It's constant Haiti everywhere I go.


I wish zombie Toussaint Louverture would rise from his grave and strike you down

[disneyspy]

Please lock this thread for stupidity.

wait,let me throw this in to lower the level first

why do we need to send aid to haiti? dont they all already have aids?

[LordJezo]

What?

You missed the point of what I was asking.

I'm not saying anything is wrong with it, it's nice to do things for those who need help, what I am saying is that I don't ever remember seeing anything like this before for other disasters that have struck around the world.

[Dude!]

Haiter

[~Katja~]

What?

You missed the point of what I was asking.

I'm not saying anything is wrong with it, it's nice to do things for those who need help, what I am saying is that I don't ever remember seeing anything like this before for other disasters that have struck around the world.
You don't remember the tsunamis, Katrina, just to name a few of the natural disasters that struck and where same kind of aid and support was shown by people all around the world?

[LordJezo]

You don't remember the tsunamis, Katrina, just to name a few of the natural disasters that struck and where same kind of aid and support was shown by people all around the world?

I remember aid being gathered and all that but not constant 24/7 text during a football game to donate money while buying a cupcake at all bakeries to support it level of fundraising.

[~Katja~]

the tsunami happened right after Christmas and there were concerts and aid programs all over the world. In fact they started much later here than in other countries which were geographically closer to the region.

It's humanitarian aid, it's always present.

[opie's twisted balls]

Don't you and the other locker room freaks pass the kettle every time there's a disaster? Maybe pull your balls out of each others mouths for a minute or two and pony up the dough.

[angrymissy]

I guess you forgot about

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[underdog]

Haiti is close by, so it effects people here so they actually react. Same with Katrina.

But barely anyone gave a shit about the tsunami because that was on the other side of the world and Americans are assholes.

[Dude!]

But barely anyone gave a shit about the tsunami because that was on the other side of the world and Americans are assholes.

because you are an asshole
don't say 'Americans' are

from Wikipedia:

According to USAID, the US has pledged additional funds in long-term U.S. support to help the tsunami victims rebuild their lives. On February 9, 2005, President Bush asked Congress to increase the U.S. commitment to a total of $950 million. Officials estimated that billions of dollars would be needed. Bush also asked his father, former President George H. W. Bush, and former President Bill Clinton to lead a U.S. effort to provide private aid to the tsunami victims.[80]

950 million + the millions
Clinton and Bush raised
from Americans

it was so successful using
the two presidents that obama
copied it for Haiti

because you didn't care about
the tsunami victims, don't assume
nobody else did

[Aggie]

i was going to say something similar to dude.

i remember the tsunami being the biggest fundraiser campaign i had ever seen our country partake in and thought it raised hundreds of millions which it apparently did.

there were tons of red cross commercials and telethons. the text thing is new though and i think it's a great way for lazy americans to donate easily!

[underdog]

i was going to say something similar to dude.

i remember the tsunami being the biggest fundraiser campaign i had ever seen our country partake in and thought it raised hundreds of millions which it apparently did.

there were tons of red cross commercials and telethons. the text thing is new though and i think it's a great way for lazy americans to donate easily!

I guess I just wasn't paying attention. But I seemed to remember very little coverage on the tsunami. I certainly don't think it was anywhere near as big or popular as Haiti.

[underdog]

because you didn't care about
the tsunami victims, don't assume
nobody else did

quiet
down

[opie's twisted balls]

Americans are assholes.
You're a shitbag!

[Hottub]

You're a shitbag!

Canadians are worse.

[underdog]

You're a shitbag!

I'm not denying that.

[opie's twisted balls]

Canadians are worse.
To be clear my "shitbag" comment was directed at underdog for the absolutely baseless comment about Americans being assholes and not giving after the 2004 tsunami. Whenever or wherever there's a significant natural disaster the first country called upon to help is the US. It pisses me off that America is criticized for its foreign policy and then in the next breath is expected to lend a hand.

And no, fuck you Canadians aren't worse. For a country of 34 million people we give an incredible amount in terms of humanitarian aid. Call us dull, play on stereotypes on how we speak, make fun of our stupid looking money but give credit where credit is due.

[underdog]

To be clear my "shitbag" comment was directed at underdog for the absolutely baseless comment about Americans being assholes and not giving after the 2004 tsunami. Whenever or wherever there's a significant natural disaster the first country called upon to help is the US. It pisses me off that America is criticized for its foreign policy and then in the next breath is expected to lend a hand.

And no, fuck you Canadians aren't worse. For a country of 34 million people we give an incredible amount in terms of humanitarian aid. Call us dull, play on stereotypes on how we speak, make fun of our stupid looking money but give credit where credit is due.

I wasn't talking about the government of the US. The US gives aid all over the world all the time. That's a given.

I was talking about the general population.

[opie's twisted balls]

I was talking about the general population.
I've got to disagree with that as well. I've seen how Americans will pull together and give for local or international causes. They might not have been able to find Phuket or Thailand on a map (hey, I can poke fun at your stereotypes as well) but money was donated.

[Hottub]

To be clear my "shitbag" comment was directed at underdog for the absolutely baseless comment about Americans being assholes and not giving after the 2004 tsunami. Whenever or wherever there's a significant natural disaster the first country called upon to help is the US. It pisses me off that America is criticized for its foreign policy and then in the next breath is expected to lend a hand.

And no, fuck you Canadians aren't worse. For a country of 34 million people we give an incredible amount in terms of humanitarian aid. Call us dull, play on stereotypes on how we speak, make fun of our stupid looking money but give credit where credit is due.

Sorry. I should have thrown in a smiley.
I was kidding around.

[opie's twisted balls]

Sorry. I should have thrown in a smiley.
I was kidding around.
No worries....just a bit sensitive about this at the moment. Still stinging from a loss in Afghanistan.

[underdog]

I've got to disagree with that as well. I've seen how Americans will pull together and give for local or international causes. They might not have been able to find Phuket or Thailand on a map (hey, I can poke fun at your stereotypes as well) but money was donated.

Yeah, apparently I was wrong. I still stand by my statement that the Haiti disaster was much more "popular" or whatever word fits.

[~Katja~]

because you are an asshole
don't say 'Americans' are

from Wikipedia:

According to USAID, the US has pledged additional funds in long-term U.S. support to help the tsunami victims rebuild their lives. On February 9, 2005, President Bush asked Congress to increase the U.S. commitment to a total of $950 million. Officials estimated that billions of dollars would be needed. Bush also asked his father, former President George H. W. Bush, and former President Bill Clinton to lead a U.S. effort to provide private aid to the tsunami victims.[80]

950 million + the millions
Clinton and Bush raised
from Americans

it was so successful using
the two presidents that obama
copied it for Haiti

because you didn't care about
the tsunami victims, don't assume
nobody else did


while we are quoting wiki let's not forget that other countries care and donated just as much to the US when it was in need
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

[sailor]

while we are quoting wiki let's not forget that other countries care and donated just as much to the US when it was in need
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina


But they're donating to a first world nation, so the prices are higher.

[midwestjeff]

Are all disasters like this Haiti thing?

No.
In Haiti the ground went shake, shake, shake.
Sometimes places get really wet and other times
the wind blows really hard and knocks things over.
Now brush your teeth and get ready for night night.

[Chigworthy]

Why do we only care after the disasters? Think of the preventative measures that could be paid for with all this money before disaster hits. It's not unknown that these third world countries have shitty leadership and shitty building practices. We've become such an emotional people, that "caring" has become a fashion statement. But if we truly cared, why don't we try to prevent the disasters from being as significant, as opposed to sending bottles of water and band aids? Because the emotional reward is less. Imagine if we had a program that helped third world cultures retrofit their infrastructure to withstand the elements a little bit. Local personnel resources could be used, and just maybe the local economy would be stimulated into an upswing. We might not get our emotional-masturbation fundraisers with the latest billionaires asking us to give up money, but maybe someone's quality of life would be raised before non-reinforced concrete crushes them.

[Aggie]

Why do we only care after the disasters? Think of the preventative measures that could be paid for with all this money before disaster hits. It's not unknown that these third world countries have shitty leadership and shitty building practices. We've become such an emotional people, that "caring" has become a fashion statement. But if we truly cared, why don't we try to prevent the disasters from being as significant, as opposed to sending bottles of water and band aids? Because the emotional reward is less. Imagine if we had a program that helped third world cultures retrofit their infrastructure to withstand the elements a little bit. Local personnel resources could be used, and just maybe the local economy would be stimulated into an upswing. We might not get our emotional-masturbation fundraisers with the latest billionaires asking us to give up money, but maybe someone's quality of life would be raised before non-reinforced concrete crushes them.

i agree but i think some of it has to do with the governments in place and where our money would actually be going. if it never gets to the people that need it and just goes to keeping the government corrupt, why throw money away? i think you know what i'm saying.

[Chigworthy]

i agree but i think some of it has to do with the governments in place and where our money would actually be going. if it never gets to the people that need it and just goes to keeping the government corrupt, why throw money away? i think you know what i'm saying.

I agree with what you say. But, what makes the resources get to where they need to go now that the disaster has struck?