Saudi's are the real enemies?

[Fat Guy]

With all that goes on in Saudi Arabia and with all of their support of radical Islamic schooling and charities, is it fair to say that Saudi Arabia is the true enemy of the US and the rest of the Worlds non Muslims. 95% of educated Saudis support Bin ladens cause. source NY Times.

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[IkeaBoy]

They aren't the enemies because they have oil, thus then we can't fight them because they have oil.

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[TheGameHHH]

Ikea is so right, you have no idea how big of an impact oil has on our policies in the middle east.

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[Havenostaples]

oil is key, our big problem will be is if the continue to get closer to the other ratty countries around there. They have the money, and money+oil can sure add to a rough enemy.

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[Fat Guy]

I realize the oil issue I have a simple solution take over the entire region with help from our allies, and even with Russia, China, etc. We split up the entire middle east evenly and have these sand monkeys work for us and of course ban this bullshit religion called Islam. This will end terrorism and bring down the price of oil. It's a no lose plan.

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[IkeaBoy]

I realize the oil issue I have a simple solution take over the entire region with help from our allies, and even with Russia, China, etc. We split up the entire middle east evenly and have these sand monkeys work for us and of course ban this bullshit religion called Islam. This will end terrorism and bring down the price of oil. It's a no lose plan. Let me get this straight, you think that by forcing people to give up their religious belief system, that will end terrorism? Do you think the Islams in this country would support getting read of Allah?

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[Fat Guy]

Ikea,
It may be a crude and horrible solution but their is no negotiating with radical muslims they are crazy. What do you do with a crazy animal you put it to sleep theses people are animals, as for the religion as a whole I don't know, but there is no other religion that can be interpreted in such a way I don't see Jewish terrorists. These are barbaric primitive scum. I know none of this will ever happen the only reason I bring it up is to make a point and that is that Islam is an evil and horrible religon look how they treat their own women.



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[TheGameHHH]

I don't see Jewish terrorists
Maybe I'm wrong here, but if I'm not then you better stop being so ignorant Fat Guy. Do you know anything about the conflict going on between Israel and Palestine? Israel is a Jewish nation that is at war with Palestine over land and other things. Every day there is a bombing in one of the countries, and that bombing comes from the other country. Of course there are Jewish terrorists, just like there are terrorists of every other religion.

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[IkeaBoy]

What? Islam is the only religion in the world that maltreats women? Extremists of all religions are horrible. Christian extremists killing abortion doctors and homosexuals for example. I'm not against abolishing religion per se but just abolishing Islam will cause far more problems then good. While it's Islam that is a major, major reason for the terrorist attacks do you think abolishing Islam as a whole will stop Islamic practices from taking place and do you think die hard Islams will just sit back and let it happen? NO! They'll be more terrorist attacks if we try and change THEIR GOD!

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[Fat Guy]

Here is another solution.
A solution to the problem of Islamic Terrorists was developed by the Army:
General John "Black Jack" Pershing - USMA class of '86 (that's 1886)!

HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...... it worked once in our History...

Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the terrorists and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood.

This would mean that they could not enter their Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch. They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven but instead will die with the
hated pigs of the devil.

As a concluding thought..... Rather than arm airline pilots, why not put pigs in the cargo holds of aircraft and prominently post the fact. No Muslim worth his salt would want to die in a crash with a pig!




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[Fat Guy]

Do you know anything about the conflict going on between Israel and Palestine


I know plenty about Palestinians they are low life scum. They want land that was never theirs. No other Arab country wants them either. Do your homework man. and stop defending these ANIMALS!

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[IkeaBoy]

Trust me, plenty of countries hate Israel and would far prefer Palestine getting that land.

and in our age of PC where we're bitched at for treating prisoners inhumanely because we put blindfolds on them, do you think the Pershing pig plan would really be allowed to go into effect with Islam blasting you from the left, PETA blasting you from the right and "people who don't really have a cause but have nothing better to do with their time and try to pretend they are socially aware" from behind?

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[Doogie]

have these sand monkeys work for us and of course ban this bullshit religion called Islam

Pope Urban II?? Is this a call to arms for another crusade??
We as Americans get upset when other nations call for an end to America. Yet here we are asking for a call to arms to wipe out a whole race of people!!! Violence used is violence planned as ole saying go. I mean if you really wanted to wipe these people out you can invent a time machine, and report back to Hitler how easy it would be to win the desert campaign (a fact by the way that he drastically overlooked, Thank Goodness for that). And have a co-prosperity sphere for Germany set up there...they would have of gladly done the job for you...
That is besides the point, to call for the Allies to go in and divy up an area is evil in and of itself. I mean how long before the "Allies" are fighting amongst themselves for the other sides shares. That being granted if they were successful in the first campaign...
So I hope fatguy that you see the error in the death which you wish to impose. It would make you worse than the people that we are currently fighting...

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[IkeaBoy]

another thing I didn't pick up on until guy with Tyson in sig pic's post- why is Islam a bullshit religion?

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[Fat Guy]

Again I realize that the US will not do any of these things, my point is you can't win unless you fight full heartedly and we will not do that because we are worried about offending this religion or this group of people it's all bullshit. Just waste them all and make examples out of them. Fuck being pc for once and lets kick some serious ass. And teach these muts a real lesson.

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[IkeaBoy]

There's a difference between not fighting a war politically correct and banning an entire fucking belief system which will just make them angrier.

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[Fat Guy]

Just as people have a right to practice islam I have a right to find it an evil horrible religon.

95% of educated Saudis support Bin Ladens cause. source NY Times.
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[NewYorkDragons80]

My father served in the Gulf War and was stationed in Saudi Arabia. According to him, the people were very kind.

I have a hard time believing bin Laden has 95% support in his homeland. If that statistic is true, it is probably more because of his anti-Israel stance than because of his anti-America stance. If you ask me, we saved their ass 11 years ago, so I think there would be enough people that are still grateful.

Personally, as soon as I get my own place, I'm getting my own solar generator so I don't owe cock to anyone. When the oil runs out, we can let the opposition groups move in on the royal family.

"THOSE BASTARDS"
-Norman Schwarzkopf

"May God bless us in this trial, comfort us, strengthen our resolve, and make our justice as terrible and certain as His."
-Senator John McCain

"Neitzche is dead"
-God

[NewYorkDragons80]

I know plenty about Palestinians they are low life scum. They want land that was never theirs. No other Arab country wants them either. Do your homework man. and stop defending these ANIMALS!
Where is the Hordeking? He'll tell you that Jordan owns most of what they call "Palestine." Do you think if the Palestinians got half of Jerusalem they would thank the Israelis and call it a day? No, they've been offered that and they want all of Israel.

I love watching Israel get attacked constantly and they NEVER lose. It's beautiful. They are completely surrounded by nations that hate them and they defend their land like the Macabees.

I'm not completely anti-Arab. I think Turkey is a great ally of the US and Bahrain and the UAE are on their way to stability and (dare I say) democracy.

"THOSE BASTARDS"
-Norman Schwarzkopf

"May God bless us in this trial, comfort us, strengthen our resolve, and make our justice as terrible and certain as His."
-Senator John McCain

"Neitzche is dead"
-God

[HordeKing1]

FAT GUY - Please do not compare Moslems to pigs. It's insulting to the pigs.

The Saudis actively povides money, support and training to a variety of terrorist groups. They, like the palestinians are trained in school (from the earliest grades) to hate and to act on their hatred. They are taught that it is their religious and cultural duty to do so.

So long as they continue to educate their children in the culture of hatred and their duty in murder and intollerance, they will continue to be just that; butchers filled with blind hatred against all who differ from them.

Israel has NEVER engaged in terrorism. She has and will continue to retaliate against terrorism. It's what the US is doing now to public acclaim, but the world has always held Israel to different standards to everyone else.

I hope that Israel eventualy gets sick and tired of all the bullshit going on and responds to the terrorism in full force. The dead do not commit acts of terror. Death is what they deserve. Without the oil issue, it's what they would have gotten ages ago.

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[Fat Guy]

The Horde King has Spoken! WOOOO!!!

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[adolescentmasturbator]

FAT GUY - Please do not compare Moslems to pigs. It's insulting to the pigs.

If that's not evil I don't what fucking is anymore.

Obviously Saudi Arabia is a root cause of terrorism but to say every Saudi is an evil person is insane.

I love how you keep saying they have blind hatred. I remember a phrase about a kettle and a pot hmm.

Israel has NEVER engaged in terrorism. She has and will continue to retaliate against terrorism. It's what the US is doing now to public acclaim, but the world has always held Israel to different standards to everyone else.

Israel has never practiced terrorism? HAHAHA what world are we living in again? Of course you'll say that I'm Anti-Semitic for saying that. Of course every source that supports what I'm saying is heavily Anti-Semitic.

Of course you see genocide as a viable solution. For that I am ashamed to breate the same oxygen as you.

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[TheGameHHH]

Israel has NEVER engaged in terrorism. She has and will continue to
retaliate against terrorism. It's what the US is doing now to public acclaim, but the world has always held Israel to different standards to everyone
else.
Horde King, I think you are a brilliant man, but I completely disagree with you on this statement. You absolutly can not speak on behalf of all of Israel and say they have NEVER committed an act of terrorism. Considering this conflict has been going on since before you were born, it is not fair to say that in all those years, not 1 single Israelie has committed an act of terrorism. It doesn't matter if it's in retaliation or not, it's an act of terrorism either way. Even Americans have participated in terrorism, it happens. I'm sorry, but I guess here we have to agree to disagree.

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[HordeKing1]

ADOLESCENT MASTURBATOR - I pity you of course, but of late you have given me reason to pity the people unfortunate enough to come into contact with your tiny, ignorant, foolish, naive, hate-filled, warped tissue that passes for your mind.

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[HordeKing1]

THEGAMEHHH - I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Retaliation is not terrorism in my book. I'll even go a step further. I'd be delighted if we would torture the animals responsible for the deaths in the US and Israel just on the off chance that we might prevent future loss of life.


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[spoon]

Horde King......Simply Awesome! I'm now your number one fan. Ladies snatch this guy for he truly speaks his mind which is rare these days! (Oh shit sorry, I think I remember you being married.) If anyone doubts the king's compassion, check out the depression thread that was recently posted. HK is an intelligent man who gives compassion to those who need and deserve it. I applaud those who take a stance and stick up for their beliefs, that is the basis for the founding of our country. Yet today we shrink at conflict from those who own letterhead and use the very freedoms are country stands for to cause awful events of this nature. Fat Guy may be a little rough/crude in his thread, but many of us are quite sick of letting people off easily that cause and incite these problems instead of TRULY dealing with them. Moreover, every time these events occur we lose more and more of our own civil liberties/freedoms. Many times this is a brash decission by us, an illfated choice, as a reaction to the events. Little by little we are becoming a nation run by the few with less freedoms than ever. If you caught Boston Public last night they had a great debate topic on freedoms. They quoted Ben Franklin and I forget it exacly but simply put he stated that those who give up freedoms at times of disruption, make a great judgement in error. The true direction we should set out on is alternative fuels (which surely won't occur under Bush) and truly deal with this situation along with Israel and fuck the rest if they don't back us (you know England will). Those that jump ship I assure you don't truly support us anyway, and who cares of SA's support? Of course they were nice to Dragon's dad, to his face, but behind his back, they plan his death. That is just what happened with the pure asses who clipped our buildings. Fuck Peta too. They go too far, the poor worms with fishing. Nuts. I think it's time these nations that truly attack us pay and learn we aren't the paper tiger Sadam labeled us. The sneaker bomber's attempt, did you see his charge? The US Taliban soldier too, what a fucking joke. People who get caught with a pound of weed get rougher treatment than these pigs....worse than pigs, sorry. Hell, he may have been shooting at some of my fucking friends who are over there with the forces. They should have killed him! For nations to attack us like this if we really, truly reacted it would be suicide. So why do you think we are attacked. Israel too should end there situation as they have the means. The difference is that both counties are civilized and respond in kind. There comes a time you have to treat an animal like an animal for it to truly learn. It's time for people pay for their errors in judgement and hence they won't lead a parade. The only reason we care about their religion is due to the fact it IS involved! We don't have any problem with the Buddist or Mormons and it simply is because they don't blow up buildings to make points and attain salvation.

If pig blood worked, better pigs than a few thousand innocent new yorkers. And those who die on their side all chose their paths. Many who die on this side, US and Israel, are innocent citizens like the family throwing a party recently in Israel. It was a little girls fucking birthday party! Then the outrage followed because Israel responded. However they didn't respond in kind by attacking a Palestinian Hospital, but their footsoldiers who were pelting them with rocks and chose to do so and be there. The very people who hit us in New York were hiding money in the form of charitible organizations and probably work hard with our PC nature. They use our freedoms and take advantage of our recent PC nature.

In the immortal words of Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z..."End it Now!!"


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[adolescentmasturbator]

FAT GUY - Please do not compare Moslems to pigs. It's insulting to the pigs.FAT GUY - Please do not compare Moslems to pigs. It's insulting to the pigs.

Of course I'm the one filled with hate. I think there was an old saying involving a kettle and a pot you might want to look into.

Call me a hatemonger all you want at least I'm not saying that we should commit genocide on a people like you. Some things just make you say hmm.

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[Fat Guy]

Israel has never practiced terrorism? HAHAHA



AM,
If you don't understand the difference betwwen what Isreal does and these low life muslim terrorist scum, why don't you go vist John Walker and blow him.


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[IkeaBoy]

AM,
You are an idiot plain and simple if you don't understand the difference betwwen what Isreal does and these muslims low life terrorist scum, why don't you go vist John Walker and blow him.Israel defends their beliefs and the Saudis defend theirs. Just because we support Israel don't let it cloud your judgement.

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[adolescentmasturbator]

http://www.hrw.org/mideast/
is-ot-pa.php

As you can see Israel isn't
the clear cut moralist in this
situation. But neither is the
PA. So don't even try to put
words in to mouth.

Interesting thing HK is that
Arabs are included in
Semites. So HK is by
definition an Anti-Semite.

And what you are
suggesting is indeed
imperialism at best and
genocide, and jingoism at
worst.


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[Fat Guy]

http://www.hrw.org/mideast/
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As you can see Israel isn't
the clear cut moralist in this
situation


Your argument is silly because these muslim scum are not normal humans they are primitive animals that need to be whipped out! or thought a lesson they will never forget. NUKE THE MUSLIMS!!


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[adolescentmasturbator]

If you think nuking Baghdad will solve anything you are an idiot. If anything it will make the situation worse. You will just get more nutjobs trying to blow us up.

And the Japanese didn't surrender because of one nuke. They didn't even surrender after two nukes. They surrendered because the Soviets had just entered the Pacific War and cutting thru the Japanese like butter. If anything the Japanese would have hated to be under Soviet rule.

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[Fat Guy]

If you think nuking Baghdad will solve anything you are an idiot

It would be a damn good start!

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[adolescentmasturbator]

That's right folks whenever you have a problem with a government just drop a nuclear bomb indiscriminately on a city of millions. Of course it's such a great start I wish I thought of it myself.

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[Fat Guy]

There is no talking sense to you! You are the typical bleeding heart that is not willing to do what needs to be done to end this maddness once and for all. So what if MILLIONS of these scum muslims die. Good for them they deserve it.

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This message was edited by Fat Guy on 1-30-02 @ 5:11 PM

[Captain Rooster]

As long as the Palestinian militants choose to attack civilians in a manner such as toting a machine gun into a 12 yr. old's bday party and killing children they will be considered scum.

Do any of these "soldiers" ever square off with Israeli soldiers?

I think not.

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[adolescentmasturbator]

There is no talking sense to you! You are the typical bleeding heart that is not willing to do what needs to be done to end this maddness once and for all. So what if MILLIONS of these scum muslims die. Good for them they deserve it.

You are typical liberal who does not see what needs to be done. So what if MILLIONS of these scum Americans die. Good for them they deserve it. - Your typical Islamic radical nutjob

Gee all you need to do is replace a few words and it sounds very similar.

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[Fat Guy]

Hey brainiac!
The difference is that the US is not doing the attacking.(We are defending ourselves after being attacked) If the muslims would mind their own business and leave the rest of the World alone I would have no problem with them and I would even wish those sand monkey's well. If you can't understand what needs to be done and what the true problem is, then you are hopeless. Leave the US and live in Iran for a while you will come running back. Support the US 100%


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[adolescentmasturbator]

Hey brainiac!
The difference is that the US is not doing the attacking.(We are defending ourselves after being attacted) If the muslims would mind their own business and leave the rest of the World alone I would have no problem with them and I would even wish those sand monkey's well. If you can't understand what needs to be done and what the true problem is, then you are hopeless. Leave the US and live in Iran for a while you will come running back. Support the US 100%

Ok so you are saying if the US was the one to attack it would be ok for them to drop a nuke on DC? That seems to be your logic. You said that we should invade every Middle Eastern country and ban Islam (of course you are upholding the true American spirit of freedom of religon there, nice being unamerican by spitting on the Constitution). I disagreed with your jingoist plans to dominate the entire Middle East and colonize a race. Of course that's me not fully supporting the US 100%.

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[Captain Rooster]

lock this shit


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This message was edited by LTRooster on 1-30-02 @ 5:53 PM

[JustJon]

There are good muslims and bad muslims. There are good jews and bad jews. We don't need sweeping generalizations and bullshit rhetoric.

I'm locking this thread. If HK wants to open it, it's his forum, but until he comes online...

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[HordeKing1]

One final point to the adolescent. If you cannot distinguish the difference b/w the two groups and are further propegating your hate filled revisionist history, how can we ever hope to achieve a just world?

You seem incapable of understanding that actions have consequences. One the Arabs attacked Israel, and Israel kicked their collective asses, Israel had the moral right to keep every inch of land. That is justice. Once the terrorism campaign against Israel began, Israel has the moral right and RESPONSIBILITY to assure the death of every single terrorist.

Perhaps this will help you to understand. I'll put it in very simple terms so you can follow. If you walk up to me and punch me in the face, and I punch you back who is responsible for my reaction? You are of course. You don't punch I don't punch back. But once you did, you can count on never being able to punch me again. Ever. That is moral. That is justice.

It is the height of lunacy to expect the arabs to attack and not expect Israel to retaliate. Furthermore, to call Israel's response "terrorism" is among the spurious and stupidest arguments I have ever heard.

What must it be like for you to got through life without a clue? Without the ability to diffrentiate fact from fiction? Without the ability to understand the basic concepts of morality and justice?

Again, I pity you and the people forced to come into contact with you.

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